Pokemon Black and White - Did You Know Gaming? Ft. Lockstin (Nintendo DS)
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In this video, Did You Know Gaming takes a look at some facts, secrets and Easter eggs surrounding Pokemon Black and White on Nintendo DS.
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The best generation by far
Hey RT! Completely agree.
I agree, I loved gen 5 as soon as I played it
Agreed
Always knew you’re man of culture
How so? I'm just curious. 😯
If black and white 2 had that “final battle” with the previous protagonist I would’ve lost my shit
I was honestly expecting it since the games were directly connected and you go to Helbert/Hilda house so I figured you would get to fight them eventually.
i think its really stupid they didnt have one. So the previous protag is just gone? Everyone else from the old game are in it. Hell youre old mom s still in the game wondering where tf you went lol
@@KnightofHeartV It think i Heard somewhere that the Progag from BW1 is on the search for N. I dont really know where i Heard that but i remember that
@@yaboipktendo I heard that aswell but I wasn't sure. That just makes it 10 times worse. This man is looking for N and he's already freaking back in Unova 💀
There's leftover data that'd imply you could have fought them with the team you beat Ghetsis in the PWT
I remember when this game came out and everyone cried "they're running out of ideas" when the company actually put a lot of thought behind the pokemon
I absolutely hated the game up until right before X and Y came out. However now I find it one of the best.
These games came out right around when social media was starting to get cancerous, culminating in the world we have now where it has become absolutely unbearable.
@@steel5897 good god, you're literally complaining on a TH-cam video... If the world is really unbearable for you I think you've got some living to do 😂 talk about melodramatic
ngl i was to young and dumb to genuinly hate a game so this game was neutral to me, black n white 2 however cemeted itself inside of me as tied for my second favorite game. (tied with platnium) and my #1 being heart gold
Yes
Hilbert and Hilda will be forever missing... The mom is totally sad...
I will comfort her
@@theduskullsociety8095 Nice
Hilbert the Hero
@@TylerFurrison chuggaconroy?
they aren't missing, they went looking for N after he left on reshiram/zekrom, and then N went looking for them after black and white 2 he even says it in the giant chasm cut scene. Hilda and Hilbert are out there somewhere
People truly forget that black and white were the last 2D games in the main series and that it really pushed the boundaries of what pokemon could do on the system. It added continuoes animations, dynamic music, seasons and weather, expanded storyline, and had the most pokemon added in a generation along with the most amount of gym leaders in a generation to this day. It was also the first poekemon game to be set outside japan and allowed them to branch out to new countries to add new pokemon.
Id argue they were some of the best games in the series. Extremely under-rated.
There is not orchestrated music. It’s still the same kind of MIDI synth they were using since Ruby and Sapphire
Still my favourite Gen. Kinda wish the series hadn't peaked with Gen 5 though...
The spritework and animations this generation had so much personality and love from the artists behind them. My biggest complaint about the 3D Pokemon games (including the spinoffs) is that they all use the same "future-proofed" high-poly models and animations. I mean, sure, they used different shaders between games (most notably Mystery Dungeon DX), but it feels like each Pokemon lost their own personalized touch and expression that the 2D sprite artists had to individually provide with each game.
Ah you saw that video too?
Fun Fact: Gen 5 introduced the most new Type Combinations.
Are you counting Gen 1? Are you counting all the Dark and Steel type combos (including the pure types) in Gen 2?
@@Compucles "Type Combinations"
Even then Gen 5 has 33.
Gen 1 has 22.
@@Compucles facepalm moment
@@Compucles lmao you tried
@El Realista lol true
The thing that blew me away the most here was figuring out that serperior has hands. I genuinely had no idea and I had snivy as my starter in B2W2. I'm honestly blown away by this information.
I remember finding that out by mistake during the dress up phase for a Pokémon musical and my mind was blown, lol
I wasn’t surprised when I too saw it through the dress up phase, I had noticed the leaves on Serperiors back that looked like servines hands XD
Yup. Today I was playing white 2 and I thought “is that serperior’s hands or just leaves on his neck?” I knew it was his hands. Now it’s confirmed.
I love gen 5 so much, I’m sad to hear the fact about Lenora being poorly accepted. I was happy at her design and was pleasantly surprised at her personality.
same. she never seemed racist to me. people who immediately go to racism whenever they see a character of color stunt the movement probably even more than actual racists... they make a big deal over any minority character that isnt perfect, when you would never treat a white character that way. the point is for everyone to be equal...
She's a lovely character and I adored her design so much, along with Iris who gets more attention in the second chapter of Gen V.
Lenora Slayed idc what anyone says she’s a boss
Only because some people though she was a stereotype. Jeez
$100 says the ones that found Lenora “offensive” weren’t even black.
You know, Dwebble and Crustle's earlier Pottery designs could be reused as region variations for a future pokemon game
I wander if there will be Sinnoh forms for Pokémon from gens 5-9 in the Diamond and Pearl remakes
I always had an idea for a regional variant of Scrafty that's a businessman and wears a suit. He'd probably be steel type
@@brad6546 It could have fitted with Galar with that whole "City of London" thing
@@MatanVil
I see I'm not the only one who's thought of this.
They probably will at the rate they’re going to use regional formes as an excuse to not cross 1000 unique Pokémon. I don’t consider formes their own species.
Moral of the story: masuda wants to die in new york
I really hope the original Dwebble and Crustle come back as regional variants in the future. They look awesome.
I really liked BW from the start, not just now that nostalgia is causing many fans to see it in a brighter light right now. I think the small change of including Hilbert/Hilda in the sequel games like Red in Johto would have made this gen the fan favorite by far.
Agreed. Also missed out on incorporating the difficulty option properly (imagine needing BOTH games to change your difficulty 😐)
So Clay is a Japanese businessman? *That's* why Driftveil's theme sounds so Asian despite being a yeehaw mining town!
I say that it has Japanese Inspiration but not being Japanese
@@Fanglongmon_solos_ur_verse driftveil best pokemon soundtrack
Yes or no
Did ya expect it to have a theme straight outta red dead redemption?
@@Ibrahim.l20 fuck no its not even good
@@bearzdlc2172 bs! I call absolute bs!
DYKG: Serperior has hands
Me: Everything I know is a lie
Everyone knows this.
Dorkly: (That meme with the monkey puppet)
literally my mind was blown i had no idea
aka Trex hands
would it sound like a lie if i say that i saw them way before this video? Because I was actually aware of them when I was playing through the game for the first time.
This was Game Freak's most ambitious move in the series. And people STILL complained, even to the best ideas about these games (such as restricting the main story to new Pokémon). That's why I blame them, and not Game Freak itself, for the series's current situation.
Tell me about it, I'm positive that if Pokemon fans got exactly 'what' they 'wanted' they'd still throw temper tantrums
@@TDIdialgagirl Thos fits so well with many fandoms..zB Sonic or Paper Mario!
B/W was my first Pokemon game and I recall being surprised to see Pokemon from previous gens when I completed the game. I thought each Pokemon game only had Pokemon from their gen. I know if I had the choice to catch other pokemon, I wouldn't be nearly as attached to Gen 5's Pokemon
It made very polarizing decisions, with only new Pokemon at main story (while you see it as a positive, I see it as a negative), some iffy designs at that time (didn't know the Dragons were supposed to be more colorful; at that time I thought they felt much less epic compared to the box legends that preceded them, with the plain colors being one of those reasons), the routes looked too linear compared to the previous gens, and it doesn't help that the anime didn't help make a good impression.
B2W2 answered many of those issues for players (story roster and routes), but it wasn't let to breathe as XY will release a year after it. Felt Gen 5 (and B2W2 in particular) would've been received better if XY was released a year more, which probably could've helped Gen 6 too in adding more content.
@@zjzr08 Why do you see "new Mons only" as a negative? It's their introduction, they need the spotlight, whereas from XY onwards the new Pokémon are barely noticeable.
Bro, I love Lenora. She's such a badass. She's honestly one of my favorite gym leaders.
Lenora>Nessa
Nessa>>>Lenora
(Sorry)
@@crazyfire9470 no
((sorry x2))
Thanks for having me on! It was a lot of fun, and I LOVE how the video turned out!
Surprise to see U on this bro
@@Triumph._. she isnt in the games, I think he means just for the games
You're lower in the comments than I'd expect.
@@Triumph._. when he was talking about the anime they showed anime clips. But when he was talking about professors he was just talking about the mainline Pokémon games.
@@Triumph._. probably showed clips of her in the anime just because it’s the clip of the person. They don’t need to mention professor ivy because she is not gen 5 and juniper is referred to as the only female professor because they were referring to the mainline games. If they were referring to the anime it wouldn’t make sense because the game is made before the anime and they were talking about how the envisioned making the character
This video was really well-written, no bias
the pokemon archive GOAT
Oh yeah! Black and White are my favorites in the series! That's also why I really enjoyed your translations on the games and things relating to it befor its release.
No bias from anyone
Why did u stop upload videos 😭?
We miss you Dr lava. Hope to see something from you soon!
I feel like Gen V was super-underrated, especially in regard to its music. I absolutely LOVED the theme of Elesa's gym in B2/W2, oh and don't get me started on Black/White Kyurem's theme. ^_^
It's so underrated you and everyone else here won't shut up about it.
@@fantasprite612 No Genfivers magicked a bogeyman they used to attack anyone that criticised any new Pokémon games, people forgot they called people that criticised Gen 6 and 7 Genwunners for a while until it became cool to shit on every breath Masuda takes
Yes I did also overlook it but Gen 5 is a true masterpiece.
Hoenn's music is better
i remember a time where there were people calling gen 5 "lazy, ugly and just outright bad" without giving it a chance or nitpicking to a ludicrous degree, up until gen5 gained a lot of popularity over the years and they magically change their opinion.
i call those people "nearsighted", "hypocrites", "annoying", and "not my friends"
To be fair though, the starters aren't as well liked as any generation before it, the most well liked gen 5 Pokemon aren't really available until midgame, a lot of the Pokemon(especially early ones) are basically reimaginings of gen 1 mons so they cant really win the popularity Contest and most importantly, they took away every other Pokemon, so that u were forced to exclusively use new pokemon, such as the starter type monkeys, that look kinda weird and like shit when evolved(except the grass one, he passes).
Black 2 and white 2 are the pinnacle of Pokemon, you even get an early riolu and growlithe, which is usually something you can only dream about and Im not even a Lucario fanboy.
@@Phantasmen no
@@frozezone2947 good Argument
@@Phantasmen God forbid you for starting fresh and new pokemons in every fucking generation
@@frozezone2947 Im sorry, but you have to rephrase that, Im not entirely sure what you mean.
I do prefer to use new mons every gen, if thats what you're talking about.
Funny how some people hated black and white
But years later they regretted not giving it a chance
Also gen 5 music is out of this world bro
Yeah I think it's just the constant 'old good, new bad' attitude. Maybe in Generation 10 fans will love Generation 7.
N's Castle song... beautiful!
@El Realista exactly my point. Ten years ago when Black and White were released, it would be blasphemous to compare Gen 5 with, say, Gen 3.
@El Realista that's what they said about Gen 5 when it came out. The cycle just continues. Old good, new bad.
@El Realista hey gen 7 isn’t nearly the worst. From an objective stance 1 is the worst ( bugs horrible balance lacking content ect) sure the tutorials ended up making the game’s pacing slower then even diamond and pearl and the abuse of cutscenes lessened their impact when needed most but at least the level balance is ok. So it actually did something right so it’s better then gen 6 which tried a bunch of things and did none of them well
The fact that Masuda said there COULD be a Black 3 and White 3 makes me excited for when Pokemon inevitably returns to Unova in half a decade.
Hate to rain on your parade but why would you be excited? The design philosophy for the series dramatically shifted since the release of the first two games so a 3rd one would undoubtedly disappoint unless something seriously changed.
@@soapbiter36577 that's my fear for both gen 4 and gen 5 remakes.
With the design philosophy pokemon has now, I'd rather skip those two regions unless they seriously shift it.
@@keeysOST Considering sword and shield sold extremely well I see no reason why they will do any better next time. Also considering the fact that let's go pikachu was the last remake I'm not even going to be cautiously optimistic. Would be nice to be totally proven wrong thought.
Ikr
Why would you be excited seeing how bad pokemon games are since gen 5 ended
That N concept is so cursed I can’t unsee it
This generation was truly the best. Peak Pokemon. So sad they wont reach BW level ever again.
Yeah it was the best and a very innovative generation.
But we'll never see these things again.
Do you know why?
It's because of the idiots who complained about the fact that Gen 5 pokèmon were uninspired.
Yeah they missed the good old times, such as in Gen 1 when we have masterpieces of human creativity such as a bee, a butterfly, a bird.
Did you see the creativity of this concepts? To be honest I can't.
Fuck these idiots!
@@poketratatoing3352 most people complained that the Pokemon designs were pretty ugly and had apparently "replaced" all of the previous Pokemons, since no previous Pokemon were catchable in Black and White,l and there was a serious lack of legendaries plus post/side game content.
You can tell in Black and White 2, where all changes were made for. Better story, post story, legendaries, more side content, previous Pokemon, etc.
@@compatriot852 BW1 better for the story btw
@@akucintaindosat2784 hell no. It's story is okay at best. Ir has some good shit like ur rivals but it asks an important moral question but instead of leaving it ambiguous it just straight up says yes. It should be up to the player to decide and shouldn't be answered. BW2 had better character designs, better pokedex and most importantly editions like the PWT make it superior in every way.
@@poketratatoing3352 gen 4 was better. HGSS was peak pokemon and sadly pokemon has never reached the level of greatness that hgss reached. Do you know why ppl didn't like it that much? This is subjective but I didn't much like the pokemon tho there are highlights like haxorus, ferrothorn, excadrill, krokodile, venipede and zekrom. The music wasn't all that memorable to me either but again thid is subjective but there are some bangers like driftveil city, low hp, gym leader climax, bianca's theme and N's theme.
Ah...Gen 5, or as Pokemon Fans know it:
- the Gen where the music fuckin slaps
- the Last Time that GameFreak actually went HARD on a game
2 years ago pokemon fans were hating on gen 5 now it's their favorite
what a fast change of heart
Okaaaaay buddy don't let nostalgia cloud your judgement.
Pokémon X and Y weren't as good obviously, but Sun and Moon was a SOLID addition to the series.
@@largenstonesea Ah, I see a man of culture has arrived. How do you do?
the early 2010s was the edgy phase for pokemon, but it was more of a good kind of edge, and All the gens have music that fucking slaps, no exceptions.
@@largenstonesea dude, sun and moon are terrible, worse than x and y somehow
Fun fact: Hydreigon actually only has one head, the one in the middle. The other two “heads” are actually its arms, which look like extra heads to intimidate prey.
They're actual heads, they just don't have brains.
@@KudaKeileon Does that mean that the second stage only has one brain, or that one of the heads die?
@@TheMursk I think you mean Zweilous as it's the one with two heads; likely, one of the heads splits into two.
The phrase "When two fight, the third benefits" encapsulates that evolution line perfectly.
@@TheMursk I'm pretty sure loksten ( the channel who collaborated on this video) did a theory on it
When they actually cared for the game. Since fans bitched “oh no it’s different I don’t like it”
I wanna legit PUNCH every single one that caused gf to lose hope by putting actual effort into one of there games for the FIRST TIME. Gen 5 will always be the best. Haters can hate 😌🙌.
It's the same with Sonic. Whiney fan brats ruin everything
People bitch on gen 6 when the effort put into it was massive
Truth to be told companies now have fucked up because they don't care about their franchises (in fact some even make shit out of spite), and "fans" are bitching and moaning when these companies actually did care despite these "fans" didn't play the games nor they ever planned to...That goes for many many games... :/
Always Pokemon fans when there's a new region or game, it seems
me: I'm black and I never saw anything wrong with Lenora
everyone else apparently: I have problems with Lenora!
Typical SJW mindset, getting offended for somebody else... Just like with Speedy Gonzalez, SJWs thought that he was "such a racist stereotype!!!", while actual mexicans fell in love with him.
I mean your opinion also doesn't speak for every black person right? You can see that she definitely was inspired by racist stereotypes, that's evident.
@@mattabrams3841 it’s people like your ruining America.
@@zerotodona1495 Lmao what? at what point did I try to have game freak cancelled, or blame them for being racists? You can recognize when something has racist origins, even if it’s not on purpose. People like you are what ruin the country, by just blaming anyone with critical thinking skills and human decency
@@mattabrams3841 The apron thing was just an unfortunate look, I don't think it was a steretoype (and if it was, except for the apron, I don't see negative with it), and I think such assumptions is just overthinking it IMO.
Ah yes, the three world regions: europe, china, and japan.
America does not exist (irony and part of the joke)
Well if they tried to include Africa as any kind of ape Pokemon, that would not go well.
😂😂😂
@@RadenWA but it would ne funny
@Reiner Braun wheres africa then......
It's a real shame we never got to battle Hilda/Hilbert at the end of B&W2. I was really looking forward to something like that when playing the games.
You can tho
@@lebronjamesharden7171 really? How?
@@theletterm5425 No, you can’t, unfortunately.
@@theletterm5425 I think its in the city with the cowboy gym leader. I havent played in years, but i do remember battling him after beating the game
@@lebronjamesharden7171 If I had to guess, you're probably thinking of a downloadable event for the Pokémon World Tournament where you could battle copies of teams used by real life people who participated in real life Pokémon VGC tournaments. Those trainers, when battled in the PWT, in game could use the male trainer's sprite, I think.
You might've also met them in Pokémon Black/White in Nimbasa City at the Pokémon Battle Subway.
Honestly, the fact that there's 22 minutes of facts and trivia for gen 5 shows that Game Freak really wanted to capture the best parts of every thing they saw or thought of, and put a lot of effort into smaller details, that nobody would have noticed.
Black & White had the coolest aesthetic all-around imo. The characters, the Pokemon, the setting, the theme; I was about 19 when it released, and it really revitalized my love for the franchise. The animated sprites were so awesome to see, and it’s really sad to think about how short-lived this era was.
FINALLY someone says something about Serperior's arms being held behind it's back.
I'm tired of hearing the "What happened to it's arms!?" crap that people say.
They should be more concerned about it's legs...
Ikr
legs wont be as bad when its capable of slithering around at high speeds
The thought of Serperior having hands behind its back feels so cursed.
Even if the creator says its true, I refuse to believe it 😤😤😄
@@reeba4824 "I recognise that the Council has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it"
I could have lived without knowing that about one of my favorite starters...
Well, there's a theory that Grass type starters all are based on ancient or extinct animals. Bulbasaur represents some kind of dinosaur (it even has prehistoric-looking plants on its back when fully evolved), Meganium is a sauropod, Sceptile is a raptor, Torterra is an anklyosaur, and Serperior is a snake with legs. Ancient ancestors to snakes had tiny vestigial legs before they evolved to be entirely legless.
Btw if you're curious about the future generations, Chesnaut is a giant sloth, Decidueye is a type of ground owl that was hunted to extinction (also possibly referenced by its Ghost typing), and Rillaboom is a caveman.
@@bugjams Decidueye is actually the extinct owl really. Chesnaught? I really don't think so really. RIllaboom...eh I dunno.
7:26 it would've been sick if the Pokedex said something like "... a UFO crash near the Orre region..." just to reference the spinoffs that were better than some main series games
DID YOU KNOW: Generation 5 is the best Generation of all of pokemon?
nothing new
It took you 10 years to figure that out?
nah heartgold and soulsilver would like a word. Gen 5 sucked ass
@@ssin197 where are your parents?
@@ssin197 N, Fusion dragons, Ruthless villain with a cheat dragon, elesa's emolgas, PWT, driftveil city theme would like to have a conversation
Fun fact: it’s nearly impossible to buy any used Pokémon DS game for a not insane price!
False go on eBay u can find some games as low as $20-$40 Canadian range
which is why i'm thinking of getting them off ebay if I ever do finally get to play the ds pokemon games.
@@nascour5991 yea and alot of them are bootlegs and most cant keep a save
@@nascour5991 I have been looking, and most are just a cart or have crazy shipping or are bootlegs
Despite owning actual cartridges I just play the rom natively on my 3ds using TwilightMenu++ because I prefer playing digitally so I don't have to worry about the cartridge getting bumped.
Definitely the best story in the series.
Ignoring Colosseum, Sun and Moon have my favourite story in the series; I was always too disappointed in the fact that Plasma were a front for yet another Rocket-esque organisation and didn't actually have a firm philosophy of Pokemon liberation! Colosseum subverted the Rocket formula really well by making YOU the Pokemon thief, so underrated
@@Barnacl3_Boi Team Plasma is the most unique team in the series!
In fairness it isn't hard to top most pokemon games story, well colosseum and XD stories are also really good.
I'd argue Sun and Moon has the best story.
@@sirmel11 definitely second but I still think black and white has the better story. Now sun and moon does have more developed characters however.
>multi-jillion dollar company
>too expensive and "complicated" to fly a band out to play in NY
LOL
Serperior has hands hiding behind
Me: "How many other lies have I been told by the council?"
I’m sad that Rosa never got to fight and defeat Hilda.
Are you talking about Mei and Touko?
@@GabePuratekuta If Rosa and Hilda’s Japanese names are Mei and Touko, then yes.
@@SilverScarletSpider Those are their only names.
@@GabePuratekuta m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rosa_(game)
m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hilda_(game)
Scroll down to names and learn to read.
I honestly hate the region based names. Every characters canon name should be the same, no matter what region the game is sold in.
But they should be fitting of the region the game is set in. So weird to have almost everyone in Japan, running around with English names.
Gen 5 has the best writing out of any Pokemon games. I'll honesty die on that hill.
No one would try to kill you
I mean, even if you dislike those Gen 5, that’s basically a fact.
Hell, my favorite region is Hoenn and I agree with this statement.
Not exactly a high bar they had to vault over.
@@GIR177 honestly, good point.
That's not saying much. Really wish Gamefreak would start giving a crap about the writing in their games. I'm not asking for a masterclass, just enough to make me give a crap about what I'm reading.
6:01 (Take it out of context lol)
"Many of Unova's Pokemon were made with a New York theme. Like Trubbish and Garbodor, who look like trash bags."
Just using my Gnoggin here: How perfect is it to have Lockstin do a Do You Know Gaming video about Pokémon?
Stravinsky was a conductor yes, but primarily a composer. His music wasn’t widely performed until the 20th century, not the 19th.
We just weren't ready for the modernist stuff yet
*Rite of Spring intensifies*
Can’t believe this game is 10 years old already. It’s the best generation. 😁🎮
I remember playing this with my friends in recess back when I was in 4th grade
@@juanitoalmazan1158 same but 5th grade for me. My friend Jack and I would have our battles during recess and it is a memory I hold dear to me. I had pokemon black and he had white ( we didn't plan it) and it was always a battle between Reshiram and Zekrom at the end some how. I had many memories with Jack with black and white 2 and sadly weren't nit close anymore but those memories I will hold my entire life.
Dp+pl+hgss>bw+b2w2
@@ZZ-ex8py b/w b/w2 >d/p p
@@nicholaswalker3206 I think you’re forgetting hgss
Diversity and polarity...that makes the setting a bit more meaningful! A very awesome deatail!
I love Gen 5. White was my first Pokémon game. Seeing these clips of Unova in the background and listening to the Unova music makes me feel so nostalgic. I love it.
Ok, there's a lot of cool info here, but what absolutely blew my mind was knowing for the first time that Serperior has arms
I always kind of thought that it must've had arms just crossed behind its back
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't realize that. One of my favorite Grass Pokémon and never once realized those weren't just leaves.
It's surprising to see people not noticing it, somehow I always knew.
The generation with the most soul tbh
Gen 5 is such a gem of a game.
If this sort of design was expanded upon more in the series Ok would of loved to see that happen.
Man, I find it so odd that nearly 10 years ago everyone literally *HATED* Gen 5 but now all of a sudden it's finally getting its recognition. Still miss the Gen 5 days...
Right??? I swear that almost nobody wanted to talk about gen 5 at all until sword and shield came out
BW3 really brought original BW back into the conversation
The pokemon in B/W were terrible. Uninspired, and lazy. The criticism, imo, still holds up. I cannot believe the games are $120 now. Mind-boggling that people would pay that much for those. Here's the thing. Very few people play Pokemon for the story. The story of this franchise we love serves as a shitty raft that floats us along to allow us to do what we want to do. Catch badass Pokemon and beat trainers with them. Well, the games lock you out of catching pokemon outside of the imo awful mons for the whole game. No, people were right about the games. Its just now that they have shit the bed when it comes to these newer games, i think people are just wearing rose glasses.
Hot Take. If X/Y doubled in difficulty and was allowed to have a Z, it would be the best gen.
@@jingitaxias8461 ngl I completely forgot X and Y existed until I read your comment
@@jingitaxias8461 You’re objectively wrong gen 5 has the best designs and thought behind em. Cope the best gen is next to be remade. Fatass discord modder.
I have literally no nostalgia for Gen 5, but these games are my favorites hands down.
I started with ORAS and didn't play BW until 2016 despite being the age that would have first played BW. While I do love BW, once nostalgia for it got mainstream in the community, I kinda lost interest in BW
@@thischannelisinactiveimsor9500 Yeah it was hated then randomly stopped
Gen 3 were my favorites but Gen 5 were awesome in so many ways.
@@thischannelisinactiveimsor9500 ORAS was my first too
Same here. I never grew up playing gens 3-5.
What's also fun about Elgyem and Beheeyem is that Elgyem evolves at level 42, which is the answer to life, the universe, and everything, a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.
Legitimately sad that we didn't get a battle against the BW protags in BW2
It took place 2 years after that battle happened in the previous game that’s why
That older dwebble design would be a sick fire/bug regional variant.
3:13 The fact that the Unova starters were initially designed based on cultures further proves the theory revolving each fire starter being based on the Chinese zodiac.
I need to play black and white again,
I forgot how awesome the animated sprites where
Just got me a copy of it after 6-8 years of losing my OG copy of white.
Fuck man... My first Pokemon game too and it still holds up well even today.
@@haaxxx9 I found a way to get the event pokemon again, do you want the link on a guide?
@@drmegasteve4335 Oh! Uh... Yes! I just stared on the game getting my first badge at Striaton City as for Snivy. Getting the event Pokémon again will be awesome!
@@haaxxx9 th-cam.com/video/pbsY_illQms/w-d-xo.html
Make sure you get the pikachu that knows fly
I think that this was the best Pokemon game. I really love the animated sprites and the story and the characters and the *music* is so amazing!! I forgot how much I loved this game
Am I the only one who doesn't really see how Lenora was racist?Yeah, she had a apron, and her nickname had "momma", but I don't see it otherwise. Although I have to admit Lenora's censored design looks cooler.
i dont think the design was racist in itself but the us has treated black people so badly over the centuries that even things that arent malicious in intent end up mimicking a stereotype or something else.
also i agree about her changed outfit looking better
i think gamefreak probably didnt do enough research. i know that I hadnt heard of the 'mammy' stereotype before i read about lenora's controversy.
its probably not something intended - gamefreak was probably thinking 'lets do a woman whos black, strong, a leader, independent!' and settled for a lady whos got motherly instincts. unfortunately, the way she was designed RESEMBLED the mammy stereotype - which is why people didnt like it. there was definetly no ill intent, just gamefreak messing up by accident.
either way her new design is cooler
It's a stereotype but there is nothing wrong with it.it's completly positive and there is nothing demeaning about it, plus i know people who are exactly like that. Basically the western world is dumb and twitter users should be castrated
You also the type to see nothing wrong with the og design of Jinx? Essentially, they are offensive for the same reason. I totally get it if you just don’t care though 🤷🏾♂️
HG SS and Black and White 1 and 2 will always be the best the series has to offer in my opinion.
I feel instead of a Black and White remake, we are actually just going to get Black and White 3.
@@dorado_boy "Pokémon Black & White 3: Pokémon Gray". That's what I think it should be called.
@@dorado_boy there is definitely the original dragon.
I hope
@@dorado_boy I had a similar idea to this. One where in the game you first play through the events of Black and White, and then after some "2 years later" text boom you play through Black 2 and White 2. And maybe there could be some option to switch between the two playthroughs. Since Black and Black 2 are one timeline, just like White and White 2, there could be two games with names like "Pokémon Black: The Saga" and "Pokémon White: The Saga" or something like that. And of course there could be more plot added such as more lore on the original dragon. Sorry about my rambling.
@@dorado_boy is it really that good of an idea? Thanks though.
Gen 5 was the absolute peak of Pokemon. It never got better than this
"Superior men understand what is right. Inferior men understand what will sell."
The ironic words from Sage Rood during the confrontation at N's Castle.
“Ironic...”
@@JacobTD Yes, given the current state of pokemon. Extremely ironic lol.
It's funny how Beheeyem and its pre-evolution can learn TM51 Steel Wing in the Pokemon games.
Get it, cause Area 51?
I don't get it.
I heard that from Gen 6 onward, it was because of an error they didn't bother rectifying. TM51 was Ally Switch in Gen 5, perfectly suitable for a Pokémon like Elgyem. Not so in every generation since. What adds to that is that Steel Wing is now TM30, with Icicle Crash being TM51. As far as I know, Elgyem can't learn that, and I know for sure Beeheyem can't. The funny thing is, Beeheyem can learn it while Elgyem can't in Sword.
@@Chaos89P thanks for clarifying it.
Sirmel11 bruh
i get it bro
Holy crap, I never knew that Orre was based on Arizona.
Yep, and Phenac City is apparently supposed to represent the capital city, Phoenix. This is rumored to also be why the bonus obtainable Pokémon in Colosseum is Ho-oh, a phoenix-like Pokémon.
I can't believe people found some sort of way to take offense to the first black gym leader ever. That "mama" shit was super empowering. I'm actually mad lol
"Color was added to the Elite Four, while color was removed from the legendary dragons."
*this is the law of equivalent exchange*
I was definitely on the side of "wow these games aren't great" when the first came out but around 2013 I started to replay them and do all of the in game events and fell in love. Gen 5 became (and still is) my favorite Pokémon generation and im really curious to see what a remake of it would even look like !
Hopefully no remake.
@@notscorchingsands9718 Yeah, they'll probably cut out a bunch of features like they did with Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire unfortunately :/.
@@Magmascan0 Not my reason at all. They don't need to be remade. OR/AS are great and way better than originals but not really much to fix in D and P that Platinum already did. The first 3 generations needed to be remade but the rest don't.
@@notscorchingsands9718 They'll still probably want to remake them eventually, platinum is almost 12 years old by now. The Pokemon company will want to reintroduce them to a new audience. The same will eventually be true with black and white.
@@Magmascan0 Why? Not everyone needs to play every generation. Why waste time doing that when they can make something entirely new to everyone? Many games don't get remakes and people seem to not want them.
I love behind the scenes stuff, especially things that defined my childhood like this game. It gives me a better appreciation of what was done during it's development and the final product as a whole.
Despite what people say about Gen 5 being the worst, I genuinely think it was the best and was the pinnacle of the DS games. Particularly for the unique Pokémon designs, and for the narrative + expansive story that really brought it to be one of my favorite games ever. Not to mention Black and White 2 was a wonderfully made sequel.
B&W must have been their last Pokemon games if they still think that 😂
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Haxorus being made during platinum makes a lot of sense. To me haxorus always reminded me of giratina. I think I even mistook haxorus as giratina when 1st watched the intro of black and white.
So much effort in gen 5, something you can't feel with the latest gen sadly.
I feel it this gen. I didn't feel it as much in X & Y.
@@nicodalusong149 not at all. The only good thing that Game Freak put effort into was the pokemon's designs. The rest of the games' aspects lack all kinds of effort or originality.
@@alvaronavarro4895 I can't agree or disagree with you if you don't specify what aspects you take issue with. If it is a graphics issue though, then spare me, I really don't mind the game looking how it does.
@@nicodalusong149 No. Not graphics. The Landscaping IS Bad as hell. The pokemon's sizes could've been properly scaled, the animations are soulless and badly executed, the Story IS poor, the game feels rushed, the DLC is quite meh and short as hell.
@@alvaronavarro4895 Could you expound more on why the landscaping is bad? I don't exactly know enough to say whether it is or not.
I'll give them a pass for scaling and animations since this is the first main line games on the system but I will agree that they could have implemented the pokemon following your character around a lot better like what was done in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee.
So it is clear, in what way are you saying the story is bad? The story is short (not too much of an issue) and some bits did need better pacing but they managed to address most of what they brought up in-game. The character development for Hop was really good since he was basically the other protagonist. He had an alternate Silver story arc to cover (i.e.: he cared for his pokemon and trusted them but he still needed skill, his own battle style and the resolve to continue after being wiped by Bede). The characters that probably needed more time to shine in-game were Marnie (she's mostly just there when she needs to be) and Oleana (so her work-stress-induced rage is more understandable). Originality-wise, we finally got a dark gym and an adequate reason for it to be such in the lore, it is the first time we don't have an actual villain in the story, it is the first time two of your rivals become gym leaders at the end of the story and not in a different game, it is the first time we get a rival who wants to become a professor, it is the first time someone becomes a professor over the course of the game. So, there was originality because they tried new stuff.
The dlc we've gotten so far is good. The Ilse of Armor probably isn't as good as Crown Tundra but I like it anyway since I understand and appreciate the martial arts movie tropes and references they were going for. The Crown Tundra is definitely worth the 20~25$ (I think Ilse of armor is worth 5~10$) simply because it has replay value in the form of the dynamax adventures and the Galarian All-Star Tournament. The dynamax adventures basically gives you free, easy-to-catch, shiny-chance legendaries and hidden ability pokemon and the tournament gives you free clothes if you fulfill certain conditions and two unlockable characters if you play enough times (and both basically give more lore). If this is still all meh, then I really don't know what to say.
really interesting, the vision and passion really explains why that generation had such good pokemon, rival and professor characters, and mechanics.
"Serperior has hands, it just folds them behind his back" You just shattered my entire world view.
yet whenever people try to add the inspiration for volcarona being mothra the mods on bulbapedia remove for being an opinion.
bulbapedia is gay
Probably because they didn't cite a source.
@@DrakeMystical is that a problem
@@Dukstless your right but its still obvious from its appearance
It's clear as day that it's based on Mothra, yet they don't believe it?
the deino line is literally german numbers: dEINo, ZWEIlous and hyDREIgon. (ein=1 zwei=2 drei=3)
so if they wanted hydreigon to have 8 heads, he would have been called hyACHTgon i guess...
The names probably came after they decided on three heads. They did a similar theme with the Kanto legendary birds, so maybe someone in Game Freak loves number puns? :D
@@ArtzyZero More likely that was done by localizers, since in japanese, the names of the legendary birds are simply Freezer, Thunder and Fire.
But it's true though that the names of the Deino line were concieved while thinking about their number of heads: Monozu, Dihead, Sazandora (this one has the "san" pronunciation, which means three).
Eins is German for the digit 1, with an S.
„Ein“ only works when counting things, such as „ein Buch, zwei Bücher, drei Bücher“ (one/two/three book(s)).
@@TheZett I mean it counts cause their counting heads
Played this through again recently. Still holds up as one of my favourite gens. So much polish
Interesting stuff!! Saddened to know a lot of content was cut or changed... but the final product was pretty good in the end!!
♫ _Some folks like to get away, take a holiday from the neighbourhood_
♫ _Hop a flight to Hau'oli Beach or to Cianwood_
♫ _But I'm taking a Gogoat on the Skyarrow river line_
♫ _I'm in a Unova state of mind..._
Came into the series with gen 1 (around the time gen 2 was releasing) and gen 5 is definitely my favorite generation. Glad to see it finally getting the recognition it deserves. Looking forward to it crossing into overrated territory and completing its story arc.
It's literally a Disney villain meme " either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
there are some that will already call gen 5 overrated really. It's honestly been loved for years. but now for the past few years it's been REALLY loved.
@@dorado_boy Genwunner isn't someone who started with Gen 1, it's someone who dislikes/know nothing about other gens
Technically it is already happening. Gen 5 is great, but the fact that Emerald, Platinum and B2W2 were the games with the most content into them as compared to nowadays, and the fact that Gen 5 actually succeeded in having a plot is already making people clamor it a lot more now.
I think it's going to be the exact opposite of Gen 8, which started with a lot of people supporting and defending it but will go down in history as the worst gen if Game Freak doesn't screw up any harder with Gen 9.
@@jpcsdutra eh...USUM had quite a bit of content to I feel.
Great video! 👌
It's hard to believe we were supposed to be able to battle Hilda and Hilber in BW2. That's crazy. Had no clue they were planning something like that
Gen 5 is my favorite Pokémon Generation since it’s the first generation that I got started with, and I become a fan of the franchise ever since, pre ordering my physical copy of the next game and even going to see the live action Pokémon Detective Pikachu movie(which I own a Blu-ray, DVD copy of)
"Serperior has hands behind it's back" EXCUSE ME WHERE THE ARMS?!
Two little leaves. Fun fact, they also work as hands for Pokemon Musicals
Behind ots back
Wow N's original design looks a lot like Shigaraki from My Hero.
All he need is the mask then the look is complete😂
Ew
I wasn’t expecting this but this was one of the best videos Ive watched on this channel.
Ramoth can work as an anagram of Mothra or as a reference to Ra, the Egyptian god of the sun, since Volcarona acted as an artificial sun according to the pokedex.
Man, imagine knowing that you yourself are cut data in a game
Despite its English name, Bouffalant was designed after the American *bison,* not a buffalo. While that has been a common nickname for the animal, true buffalo live in Asia and do not have such fluffy heads.
Africa as well.
Everything I know is a lie.
This is my absolute favorite generation. With Gen 4 as second.
this version is so inspired in different cultures. amazing
17:48 and thus this sketch was made into Tomura from My hero academia
Few words can describe just how much love I have for this game. For me Sinnoh, Unova and Hoenn are top 3.
YES me too!!
sinnoh mid
@@arigetout good for you
White was the first pokemon game i ever played I remember being so obsessed with it i would play it under my desk in middle school trying to race to beat the games before my friends
I personally enjoyed B/W/B2/W2. Games were awesome, the leader of TP was difficult as was the E4. I especially loved the music and the fact that they made the main story line exclusive to the Pokemon in Unova. Gave it a real challenge it did.
Ah yes. The big three continents. Europe, China and Japan.
@Usuario Eliminado so, you want to assume, the native Nations of the American continents didn’t have culture?
He said three unique cultures. Not three continents.
@@sackthebastard Still makes sense..
But there is an ant pokémon, Durant.
Who actually was a gen 5
Wow,being a MVP and being a downloadable character,thats crazy effort,imagine if pokemon did this effort on later games
Dude you're the best! It's the best pokemon video I've ever seen in terms of content! Congrats! You made me love gen 5 even more!