The saddest part about the whole game was how all of the characters in it wasted their lives chasing the dreams of a false prophet who had no real intentions of bringing those dreams to fruition. Dutch, like Colonel Favors, was to put it in the words of Captain Monroe: "An insecure man trying to hold onto a past thats already gone." Actually, Colonel Favors was really just military government version of Dutch - who put on a facade of honor - but who really just wanted to protect and increase his interests no matter the cost. That should be a CLEAR warning for all of us here in the real world, is to judge people by their actions and not their words. Wrods are much easier to fake than actions, as John found out at the end where he screamed: "YOU LEFT ME!"
I mean...it sets you up for a fail from the very opening screen: "By 1899, the age of outlaws and gunslingers was at an end..." You're fucked from the start.
@markrennie86 - The lesson to be learned is if start down a bad path, you will experience the pitfalls as a result, so it's best not to go down such a path to begin with.
You guys talk like dutch was useless but he wasn't. He used their power and knowledge and combined and unite together to form a great group. Only after hosea's death he screwed up.
for anyone who wants to hear these, be anywhere in the epilogue and go to the camps. some have enemies so you need to clear the ENTIRE camp (beaver hollow includes all the murfees in the cave too). after, ride away from the camp for a minute or two and then ride back so that the bodies and anything the gangs had set up, disappears. when the camps are clear you can hear them. if you don’t hear anything, ride away and try again. no need to sleep or set up a campfire, just leave the area :)
The amount of things to do in this game are endless. The detail into every aspect is sheer perfection. Never thought I'd tear up while playing a video game...
I completed the story on ps4 and now got back into the mood of downloading it and playing it all again on my PS5 this time around. I have even bought the Red Dead Redemption 2 guide to see what I missed and to go back and rediscover it all the second time around despite how long it takes to discover everything this time around. I might even go back to all the camps again, just like it this video once I have completed the story mode again.
Visit Eagle flies grave you will see an eagle flying over the grave site just circling. It’s a good indication that Eagle flies was reincarnated as an eagle The one thing i liked to do in this game was to go to the specific places and reconnect with old gang members. Tilly in Saint Denis sitting on the park bench Pearson running the Rhodes general store Rains fall outside the Annsburg train station Mary Beth outside of the valentine train station
Easily one of the Top 3 games of all time. I just hope they don't taint its alluring and potent delivery/presentation by adapting it to the silver screen. Some things are great as they are in its raw form.
I wish I got nostalgic disembodied voices when I returned to Beaver Hollow, instead I just got ambushed by the Murfree Brood, several extra generations more inbred.
wipe them out then wait a day somewhere else. Come back and all the murfree stuff will be gone and you'll get the voices. This also works for Shady Belle
Memories of the past events...thats why john is most brutal than any of them ...all end up with betrayal and he get out in best posible way as lucky one but scars that he carry arround remind him its not yet time to put those guns down..its all clear in RDR1..i hope for remake
These, and going out and finding all the graves of gang members who died. IIRC, there are nine: Davey, Jenny, Sean, Kieran, Hosea, Lenny, Grimshaw, Eagle Flies, and Arthur.
There's multiple memories for each camp too. I've heard 2 for clemens point so far.... the one where they're all singing almost made me cry. At H overlook the only one I've heard so far was Arthur yelling at John about leaving Jack. If you're having trouble hearing them at shady bell or beaver hollow just kill all the enemies then leave the area then come back. If you go far enough away and come back quick enough the enemies bodies and all their camp equipment will be gone.
Ah yes thank you, I generally stay well away from beaver hollow because I can’t be doing with ambush after ambush, but, I want to hear the dialogue so looks like I’m killing me some Murfee’s later.
@@blainehawkins007 right??? I kept the shire that you can either sell or stable during the bear hunting mission with Hosea the entire game. Ride in paradise Boone 💔
I always go back and roam the map in this game every now and then, visiting graves, old campsite, go fishing and just hunting stuffs. also love sitting in the tent during heavy rains.
The fact that the Beaver Hollow one is slightly different to the actually moment just shows that John doesn’t want to remember anything that happened there except Arthur’s sacrifice 😢
I also visited the old camp in RDR2. It was pretty sad for me either cause back then, the Van the Linde gang was actually a gang, because the chapters got from time to time only worser, because the Gang began at some point to fall a piece with the members dieing one after the other... Rockstar even wanted you to go back in the snow cause somewhere near at lake Isabella is a legendary fish and the legendary Bison. So there are also 2 important reasons to go there.
Horseshoe Overlook is the only camp that didn’t have anything terribly bad happen in it. Colter, had everyone cold and stressed, along side a very injured John Marston. Clemens Point, Jack gets kidnapped and Arthur gets tortured by Colm and shows up to the camp badly injured. Shady Belle, Kieran was beheaded and a shootout started with O’Dricolls. Lakay, Pinkertons shoot up the place. Beaver Hollow was the worst of all camps, everything fell apart there
I completed the story on ps4 and now got back into the mood of downloading it and playing it all again on my PS5 this time around. I have even bought the Red Dead Redemption 2 guide to see what I missed and to go back and rediscover it all the second time around despite how long it takes to discover everything this time around. I might even go back to all the camps again, just like it this video once I have completed the story mode again. Absoloute Gem of a game Red Dead Rededempiton 2 😢🥰🤗🍺🤠🍻.
Visiting Horseshoe Overlook became more emotional for me due to it being the most happy chapter with the gang throwing a party after Sean's return everyone singing along and having a good time.
Funny because i went back and revisited shady belle after completing the game and the Lemoyne raiders retook it and if you go there they kill you. Also if you return to beaver Hollow after the story the murfree gang has reoccupied it and they come out and attack you. Colter where the gang first camped was the only place i heard the distant voices
Never knew this was a thing until yesterday..was hunting and decided to stop by clemens point and was really caught off guard by the ghostly sounds of the girls from camp singing. Hit me like a ton of bricks..100% unexpected..beautify haunting and equally sad.
i would do this and me being a sucker for nostalgia and thinking about how last time i was here, etc etc, or i member when.... etc etc, but the memory voices that sometimes play when u show up, give me chills alil, it was like taking u back,
This game made me feel so genuinely sad and maybe that's pathetic I spent a lot of time in the camp with the gang on my first playthrough on the week the game released. When I reached the point in the story where time skipped forward and they were all gone it punched me in the gut. Eventually I found the ones that were still alive but after that, I looked for Karen for hours because "I'd" danced with her and had meaningful conversations with her as Arthur and I needed to know if she was ok. I literally spent hours of my life scouring every inch of the entire map looking for a 3D model mapped to a performance capture actress ctafted into a fictional character. As if it was my friend. I hope no other game grips me emotionally like Red Dead 2 did because I clearly can't handle it. What a ridiculously well made piece of media it is. I read Tilly's letter but she's wrong
every time i visit shady belle and beaver hallow as john marston there are other gangs there and i don't have this memories or echoes whatever you call it.
The Saddest Thing To DO After Beating RDR2 Story Mode is skinning poor cute animals and stuffing them into Legend of The East Satchel. RIP best game ever😕
Yes, this is in the game but for beaver hollow you have to kill the Murfree brood gang first, then after a few in game days go visit beaver hollow and you should hear some of the past gang members voices.
Anybody who wants to be seriously disappointed with the game, watch 3:10 to Yuma (the remake from 2007) they literally copied Dutch and Micah 1:1 from the movie. Yes I do realize Dutch was already in RDR1, but there he was a copy of Curly Bill from Tombstone (1993).
Is this just me? But when I die I restart the game, hate dying when I’m replaying a game, so Iv started like 5 new games in the past week on this game… really need to just uninstall it
also i frickin hate and its bvllshiet that when we bring enemies or "cops" to our camp its like "game over" or death. I mean ok but why tf are we losing honor? Doesn't make sense. Imo after leading enemies to the camp there should be cutscene where we fight with them...
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These auditory hallucinations are crazy.
@@lewisjohnston7077 the hallucinations are neat.... But i think the ghost encounters should be more realistic of actual paranormal experiences.
@@PitsTasteGood "actual paranormal experiences" thats funny :D
@@burnstrom You have your own label for the word paranormal. It's typical of Americans.
All camp places give hallucinations? With me it was only Clemens.
@@PitsTasteGood Get a life bigot.
I think John is experiencing intense nostalgia or mild PTSD
It’s neither he’s just reflecting
Or maybe schizophrenia
Maybe both
He ate the wrong mushrooms
both
The saddest part about the whole game was how all of the characters in it wasted their lives chasing the dreams of a false prophet who had no real intentions of bringing those dreams to fruition. Dutch, like Colonel Favors, was to put it in the words of Captain Monroe: "An insecure man trying to hold onto a past thats already gone."
Actually, Colonel Favors was really just military government version of Dutch - who put on a facade of honor - but who really just wanted to protect and increase his interests no matter the cost.
That should be a CLEAR warning for all of us here in the real world, is to judge people by their actions and not their words. Wrods are much easier to fake than actions, as John found out at the end where he screamed: "YOU LEFT ME!"
Indeed but also know what to believe in. Truly believe in, don’t let yourself be strung along
Favors didn't really put on a facade.
I mean...it sets you up for a fail from the very opening screen:
"By 1899, the age of outlaws and gunslingers was at an end..."
You're fucked from the start.
@markrennie86 - The lesson to be learned is if start down a bad path, you will experience the pitfalls as a result, so it's best not to go down such a path to begin with.
You guys talk like dutch was useless but he wasn't. He used their power and knowledge and combined and unite together to form a great group. Only after hosea's death he screwed up.
When ever I go to horseshoe overlook in the epilogue it hits hard on me because of the memories of Sean and Mr. Pearson singing songs at the camp fire
my fav place i stayed here for 3 years
@@ParichayJadhavSINCE1996 I stayed much longer at Horseshoe Overlook than any other camp. It seemed like I was only at Beaver Hollow a minute.
@@captaincreditor8293 yep I don't like there not pleasant as much as horseshoe
At horseshoe you can hear Arthur say " If you say the boy ain't yours , what difference does it make "
for anyone who wants to hear these, be anywhere in the epilogue and go to the camps. some have enemies so you need to clear the ENTIRE camp (beaver hollow includes all the murfees in the cave too). after, ride away from the camp for a minute or two and then ride back so that the bodies and anything the gangs had set up, disappears. when the camps are clear you can hear them. if you don’t hear anything, ride away and try again. no need to sleep or set up a campfire, just leave the area :)
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Ok, thanks for the help👍🏻
Beaver hollow hits hard…
I'm never moving past chapter 2. Life is better without Micah.
You can start chapter 3 without Micah , don't go to his hideout .
@@mrwdpkr5851 I'm just scared that I'm going to lose the odriscolls in Valentine after that
Agreed
Ooh good idea
Visiting the 9 graves to pay respect was sadder, but yeah, this was still sad.
After Arthur died i went straight back to visit old camps
Beaver Hollow didn’t hit at alllll for me. Now, Horseshoe Overlook on the other hand…
What is he saying? I cant understand
Maybe because vibe of beaver hollow was very negative
Gang was already split in two by the time we reached their
Yeah... After the bank job in sant Denis .... It was never the same. Clemens point was very pretty and beautiful. I liked it there
The amount of things to do in this game are endless. The detail into every aspect is sheer perfection. Never thought I'd tear up while playing a video game...
This makes me wanna replay the story
I completed the story on ps4 and now got back into the mood of downloading it and playing it all again on my PS5 this time around.
I have even bought the Red Dead Redemption 2 guide to see what I missed and to go back and rediscover it all the second time around despite how long it takes to discover everything this time around.
I might even go back to all the camps again, just like it this video once I have completed the story mode again.
dutch said somthing else in the gang split up, maybe that is cut from the mission, he never says my preciouse son
Must’ve been the way John remembered it, which makes that encounter all the while sadder.
He says "you are precious to me" but people often remember things incorrectly. Especially when under stress.
@@JackAttack-fb4jdi think thats so cool
I always go back to playing this game. It’s a true masterpiece.
the more recent the more intense his PTSD gets
Visit Eagle flies grave you will see an eagle flying over the grave site just circling. It’s a good indication that Eagle flies was reincarnated as an eagle The one thing i liked to do in this game was to go to the specific places and reconnect with old gang members. Tilly in Saint Denis sitting on the park bench Pearson running the Rhodes general store Rains fall outside the Annsburg train station Mary Beth outside of the valentine train station
Easily one of the Top 3 games of all time.
I just hope they don't taint its alluring and potent delivery/presentation by adapting it to the silver screen. Some things are great as they are in its raw form.
I wish I got nostalgic disembodied voices when I returned to Beaver Hollow, instead I just got ambushed by the Murfree Brood, several extra generations more inbred.
wipe them out then wait a day somewhere else. Come back and all the murfree stuff will be gone and you'll get the voices. This also works for Shady Belle
Reminds me of Old Snake visiting Shadow Moses Island in MGS4 & getting flashbacks.
I’m sad cause I never got anything for Beavers Hallow cause I realised my tv was on mute and Murfree ruined it
You can go back and there will be a new phrase John remembers. It‘s not always the same one
I like how Shady Bell building still looks better with less vegetation that the Brainweather old villa
Memories of the past events...thats why john is most brutal than any of them ...all end up with betrayal and he get out in best posible way as lucky one but scars that he carry arround remind him its not yet time to put those guns down..its all clear in RDR1..i hope for remake
These, and going out and finding all the graves of gang members who died. IIRC, there are nine: Davey, Jenny, Sean, Kieran, Hosea, Lenny, Grimshaw, Eagle Flies, and Arthur.
Big sad when playing as John😢
There's multiple memories for each camp too. I've heard 2 for clemens point so far.... the one where they're all singing almost made me cry. At H overlook the only one I've heard so far was Arthur yelling at John about leaving Jack. If you're having trouble hearing them at shady bell or beaver hollow just kill all the enemies then leave the area then come back. If you go far enough away and come back quick enough the enemies bodies and all their camp equipment will be gone.
Yeah there are multiple different dialogues
Ah yes thank you, I generally stay well away from beaver hollow because I can’t be doing with ambush after ambush, but, I want to hear the dialogue so looks like I’m killing me some Murfee’s later.
Cried at my final horse dying in the final mission. I knew it was time to go then. RIP Arthur & Freya.
@@blainehawkins007 when Arthur says “thank you” 😭
@@madball9323 Ahh, you've just brought it all back again! 😅 It broke me. How do you move on?! 😭
@@blainehawkins007 right??? I kept the shire that you can either sell or stable during the bear hunting mission with Hosea the entire game. Ride in paradise Boone 💔
@@madball9323 “We're More Ghosts Than People.” ...🤍
We all cried 🥺
I always go back and roam the map in this game every now and then, visiting graves, old campsite, go fishing and just hunting stuffs. also love sitting in the tent during heavy rains.
U start the game by saving John, then saving Jack midway and ended by saving Abigail.
The fact that the Beaver Hollow one is slightly different to the actually moment just shows that John doesn’t want to remember anything that happened there except Arthur’s sacrifice 😢
I also visited the old camp in RDR2. It was pretty sad for me either cause back then, the Van the Linde gang was actually a gang, because the chapters got from time to time only worser, because the Gang began at some point to fall a piece with the members dieing one after the other... Rockstar even wanted you to go back in the snow cause somewhere near at lake Isabella is a legendary fish and the legendary Bison. So there are also 2 important reasons to go there.
Beaver hollow does hit hard
would be cool if john said something like special dialoge when visiting these places
How will that work, everything is going in his head and he knows it
Making him talk here will feel more like fan service
@rahulverma8774 like John talking to himself not in his head
Horseshoe Overlook is the only camp that didn’t have anything terribly bad happen in it. Colter, had everyone cold and stressed, along side a very injured John Marston. Clemens Point, Jack gets kidnapped and Arthur gets tortured by Colm and shows up to the camp badly injured. Shady Belle, Kieran was beheaded and a shootout started with O’Dricolls. Lakay, Pinkertons shoot up the place. Beaver Hollow was the worst of all camps, everything fell apart there
I completed the story on ps4 and now got back into the mood of downloading it and playing it all again on my PS5 this time around.
I have even bought the Red Dead Redemption 2 guide to see what I missed and to go back and rediscover it all the second time around despite how long it takes to discover everything this time around.
I might even go back to all the camps again, just like it this video once I have completed the story mode again.
Absoloute Gem of a game Red Dead Rededempiton 2 😢🥰🤗🍺🤠🍻.
Chilling when you revisit Clemens Point and hear Abigail scared about Jack's abduction.
The:the boys don't have feeling
The boys:
And the graves of the gang members who died... including Arthur's
I got attacked at Shady Belle and Beaver Hollow.
The only video game to ever make me cry.
I never realized the voices and I’ve played this game over 300 hours lol
Going back to Horseshoe Overlook is sad. So many great memories
when i first started the epilogue, i always went back to horseshoe overlook or beaver hollow. i miss being arthur so much😭
Damn, RDR2 is a timeless classic. However, there's nothing quite like finishing it the first time through. Wish I could experience that feeling again
Visiting Horseshoe Overlook became more emotional for me due to it being the most happy chapter with the gang throwing a party after Sean's return everyone singing along and having a good time.
When I went back to beaver hollow I just found those guys that you find when you discover it.
Funny because i went back and revisited shady belle after completing the game and the Lemoyne raiders retook it and if you go there they kill you. Also if you return to beaver Hollow after the story the murfree gang has reoccupied it and they come out and attack you. Colter where the gang first camped was the only place i heard the distant voices
This is so sad 😭
Shady belle was terrible tho
Love you John
LOVE YOU ARTHUR ❤️
Saddest thing to do after beating RDR2 was playing rdr2 again to have an amazing experience, ending in sadness :(
the game of the century
this game is truly a masterpiece
The saddest thing to do after beating the RDR2 story is continue on living.
The saddest one in Beaver Hollow: “Get the hell outta here and be a goddamn man!” -Arthur Morgan
I have a plan Arthur
Never knew this was a thing until yesterday..was hunting and decided to stop by clemens point and was really caught off guard by the ghostly sounds of the girls from camp singing. Hit me like a ton of bricks..100% unexpected..beautify haunting and equally sad.
I like that Jonah is hearing the gangs voices in the past
Who's Jonah?
That's John
@@syteanricHow do you not know Jonah? He’s the main character of red dead 1
i would do this and me being a sucker for nostalgia and thinking about how last time i was here, etc etc, or i member when.... etc etc, but the memory voices that sometimes play when u show up, give me chills alil, it was like taking u back,
This is lowkey haunting fr
Shady Bell and Beaver Hollow are full of enemies
Sometimes you hear singing. And laughing
Saddest thing to do is play the first red dead game after finishing rdr2.
How did you get beaver hollow without the Murfrees?
I have visited all old camps in epilogue but no voices for me..
It’s a very poignant thing to do visiting the old camps
WHAT? I thought you could only hear voices In Colter. Guess I was wrong
This game made me feel so genuinely sad and maybe that's pathetic
I spent a lot of time in the camp with the gang on my first playthrough on the week the game released. When I reached the point in the story where time skipped forward and they were all gone it punched me in the gut. Eventually I found the ones that were still alive but after that, I looked for Karen for hours because "I'd" danced with her and had meaningful conversations with her as Arthur and I needed to know if she was ok. I literally spent hours of my life scouring every inch of the entire map looking for a 3D model mapped to a performance capture actress ctafted into a fictional character. As if it was my friend. I hope no other game grips me emotionally like Red Dead 2 did because I clearly can't handle it. What a ridiculously well made piece of media it is.
I read Tilly's letter but she's wrong
Dude where is all the bad guys at shady belle? That place is always full of enemies. Beaver hollow is full of murphrie Broud
He killed them with Deadeye
Shady belle shouldve been "DAMN IT ALL!"
Funny I found that first one playing yesterday after years of never going back and this video popped up today.
strange when i went to the last camp i did not get those voices instead i found a gang camping there
Same
every time i visit shady belle and beaver hallow as john marston there are other gangs there and i don't have this memories or echoes whatever you call it.
It annoys me that I have to clear out the raiders and murfree gang leave the area and come back just to hear the dialogue.
I've been hearing voices all about the map, trying to figure it out with Arthur 🤣
I thought it was just John remembering. Those are his thoughts.
The good thing is always you know that after the playtrougt is bevor the playtrougt. So you can make arthure Alive again.
Don’t need to finish the story. These pop up when you play as John even before story end.
sometimes i go to Arthur Morgan tomb as john ..... i am too much nostalgic
The saddest thing is to visit the graves of the fallen 😢
Beaver Hollow hits so hard when it's trying to kill you :|
People who cried or had tears
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The Saddest Thing To DO After Beating RDR2 Story Mode
is skinning poor cute animals and stuffing them into Legend of The East Satchel.
RIP best game ever😕
Is this actually in the game? If so, do you need to complete the entire game?
Yes, this is in the game but for beaver hollow you have to kill the Murfree brood gang first, then after a few in game days go visit beaver hollow and you should hear some of the past gang members voices.
yes it is, you need to be in the epilogue and complete the main story
Yes I play on ps
At shady bell you have to a kill a the lemones gang also
I hated Abigail when she said “dutch Arthur thank you” and then looked at john
why is it when i go back to beavers hollow after 100%ing the game the murfree's are there
I went back to the caves to try and get Dutches money just after Arthur died and had mad fights with the hillbillies. Couldn’t get the money
There was also a ghost train somewhere
Man beavers hollow is sad
Anybody who wants to be seriously disappointed with the game, watch 3:10 to Yuma (the remake from 2007) they literally copied Dutch and Micah 1:1 from the movie. Yes I do realize Dutch was already in RDR1, but there he was a copy of Curly Bill from Tombstone (1993).
Questi ECHO non sono dettagli del gioco! Sono allucinazioni che sentiamo noi giocatori di RDR2.........brava rockstar!
Is this just me? But when I die I restart the game, hate dying when I’m replaying a game, so Iv started like 5 new games in the past week on this game… really need to just uninstall it
Wow give up much
When I went to shady bells I was welcomed by the kindest gang of lemoyne raiders 😂
"Get the hell out of here and be a goddamn man!"
"You're my brother." 😢
"I know. I know."
Is this added In post or does John actually hear this when he walks through the spots?
It's real
@@AshwinY no way! Thanks for this vid my friend I'd of never done this
My shady belle is overrun with raiders lmao
I'm at beaver hollow in one game and Clemons on other
i cry
200 hours... 200 frickin hours in this game and that's the first time i see it.
also i frickin hate and its bvllshiet that when we bring enemies or "cops" to our camp its like "game over" or death. I mean ok but why tf are we losing honor? Doesn't make sense. Imo after leading enemies to the camp there should be cutscene where we fight with them...
Rockstar need to make a doco about everything in the game. Same with GTA 5.
You left out Lakay.
He was not there. So nothing happens in lakay
@@AshwinY its still an official gang hideout regardless.
John was locked away in Sisika.
just dust and echoes