Earlier this year I was thinking about buying a fully specced out Razer Blade but then I realized I could just buy an M1 Macbook Air for everything I have to do on the go and spend the rest building a PC and it's been the best decision I've ever made tbh
I hate how companies have just decided "Cooling doesn't matter, it just needs to be thin". I don't know about the rest of you but I would be more than happy with a thicker laptop of it meant I could actually get the performance out of the components that I paid for.
@@cemsengul16 That will do effectively nothing. Maybe a degree or two but that means nothing if the heatsink isn't big enough to deal with the thermals. If anything it will make it heatsoak faster because of the quicker heat transfer.
@@cemsengul16 Liquid metal ain't going to drop the temperatures that much if the cooling solution is at it's limit. I have not seen once anywhere, on any of the tech channels I watch or even anywhere on the internet, a temperature drop of 20c from liquid metal. Sounds to me like it just had garbage paste to begin with or it was just dirty. That is the only situation where that could happen. One thing I've learned about high end laptops is that the thermal paste is only just good enough to cut back on cost.
Thanks for the unbiased review! Im sorta settled for the razer as its clean looking so i can use it at work and also play games after work. I was initially going for the full speced model, but have read about their top tier model being bottlenecked giving in reality only a few percent more benchmark scores than the lower tier model with a 3070ti. So i wanted to confirm to get the lower tier model for the best bang for the buck. A 1000€ extra to get their top tier model is really insane knowing tech values change very fast.
@@jaskarankang3604 i didnt buy any yet. Will see whats good on cyberday.. if theres a good offer i might go for it. Currently leaning more towards Asus m16 or until the new Razers blade drop with the oled screen.
I’ve seen so many people have issues with Razer laptop batteries becoming bloated, I’m sure many laptops have that issue but like damn really puts you off
I think it honestly has to do with people not checking temps on their laptops, I’ve had my blade for around 3 years now and no issues, knock on wood. I did a thermal pad mod to the laptop, basically putting thermal pads on the laptop so the bottom lid acts like a heat sink and I’ve been fine with temps
I've had nothing but issues with my recent Razer laptops. I first tried the Razer Book, and the keyboard and hinge were faulty. Now I have a Razer Blade 14 with AMD, and the screen has random vertical artifacts in the center screen. Works alright with Fedora OS.
The heat issues have always been a thing with Razer laptops. I think the next models need to really address it. I really like the form factor as well and if they want to keep it I believe they need to change the materials its made out of. Either that or bite the bullet and make it a bit thicker, add better fans, and maybe make the entire bottom ventilated. Somethings got to give, especially at this price.
as a razor owner, the heating is a huge problem for me, the area right above the F keys gets super hot and can hurt my fingers if i try to play a heavy game, but given my computer is 4 years old
There is a super easy fix that Razer just hasn't done. Liquid Metal drops the Blades temps by over 10c, combined with even a small undervolt (very easy to do) will see the CPU drop from 100c down to the low 80s. The GPU temp have never been an issue on the 2018+ Blades. Lenovo, Dell, Asus & MSI have all converted to liquid metal but for some reason Razer just won't do it despite the massive benefit.
Any laptop with this kind of form factor will have heating issues... Cap the framerates, dont block th e vents and it should be fine. Its only stupid users who dont know what they are doing are the ones conplaining about this.
@@zihuatenejo i literly have my computer floating to get more airflow form the fans underneath, and my resolution set to 1080p instead of 4k and my computer still burns my hands
I have one Razer Blade advanced 2021 with RTX3080. It's really hot and noisy if your OS is windows, but not that much when running in Linux. So now when I do my daily work like coding or web browsing, I use Ubuntu as my OS. After work, I reboot into windows to play games. This is also an alternaive use choice.
Just bought a Zephyrus G14 a few weeks ago and I love it! It gets great battery life and gaming performance is fantastic! The Blade series is good but I'm not sure about spending all that extra.
Have a 2021 G14, want to upgrade to a 2022 since the better display would be more beneficial for the work I do. Doesn't seem like any Canadian retailers are carrying it just yet though.
All that extra does get you a lot more than the G14. The Zephyrus stuff is good but people don't talk about the corners ASUS cuts to bring the price down.
Owned this laptop for 3 weeks and ive come across a few problems.... Overheating and shutting down, I've re-pasted and the laptop has improved 2/3% ive ordered some thermal pads from China and hoping the temps will drop. Other then thats the laptop is beautiful, i mean stunning. Razer have built the perfect laptop - the temps.( such a shame ) get the temps right with the thermal pads and nothing on the market will beat it. Period
@@texas3258 no not really. I just re-pasted with the artic mx3 and used a laptop stand ( well ones you wedge under the back) just lifted the rear by around 3-5 cms and worked a treat. Also running in balanced mode ans fans set to full. Most games are fine but warzone eats the cpu. Hitting 80s 90s regularly
@@leechurchill5182 Amen, same problem with 2070 and warzone, it has now expanded my battery from overheating, also synapse keeps crashing randomly - software a bit buggy and same problem with audio. Not happy with it, but much better experience then Dell XPS 15 😄 Next one is gonna be Asus M16 or Flow x16
Tested this laptop too and I can confirm, 3080ti is way too much for this chassis. Warm to the touch does not bother me as I prefer it to an ice cold laptop. Only moment it really gets uncomfortable is in gaming where it really is hot, but again I don't game on my lap.
As gamer and professional I have to point out a few misinformations ; Apple/Macbook always gets praised in terms of heat and fan noise in comparison, but the GPU is not even comparable. They dodge this scenario with the argument: "oh but it's not designed for gaming, for this for that..." I don't buy that, I pay premium price I want to throw whatever I want to, and expect my computer to handle it. Also , there are modes in the software; in silent mode, you can still do basic editing, photoshop work, light 3D design, do some gaming with minimum noise and heat. I have just finished Sifu this way , you can surely play phone games as well ;) battery life is truly sh*t though
Yeah I don’t get it like Mac doesn’t even compete with other windows laptops out there when it comes to heavy gpu tasks n his reasoning for razer not useable as a laptop is cus he can’t use it on his lap gaming laptops are called gaming laptops for a reason and these guys keep failing to mention that everytime they shit on any gaming laptop.
They shouldve done it like asus tuf and acer nitro laptops where igpu is used for light tasks and when doing heavy work or connecting to monitor it should use rtx
I have to 2021 rtx 3060 model and don't deal with the best issues you guys were talking about. Even when playing AAA games, sure it gets warm, but never unusable. I believe that is an issues with the 3080 model specifically.
I don't like a windows gaming laptop being compared to a macbook, they are very different machines. I've been a windows gamer all my life and when I went to college I decided to buy a macbook for my studies. I shit you not, I felt like I spent $1500 on a toy that ran an outdated mac version of Microsoft word (which was all that was available at the time) on a somewhat nicely built laptop. One of the biggest regrets of my life. I could have just bought a $200 small and light windows netbook
Thanks for this, I was seriously considering the Razer 15, and your honest opinions here, unlike in other videos really helped me decide to buy the base model.
I bought the razer as a desktop replacement and its the perfect laptop for that scenario. Loving my rtx 2060 laptop i got back in 2019, though the major downside is the battery only getting me 5hrs but in 98% of my days I don't use it that much anyways
I have a razer blade from a couple years ago, i7 9700 and 2060 I believe (too lazy to check) it works great for portable gaming. I bring it with me when I want to game while visiting family or anything. It runs apex amazing at 144hz on the 1080p display that mine has.
@@MrWang. absolutely my friend I think Microsoft nailed this generation let's see what we get next, im pretty optimist about handheld gaming ... I think it has potential to beat the consoles in future considering the fact that an iPhone 12pro max is at par in Graphics performance with PS4 Pro ... also services like Game pass and Apple Arcade
@@willphoenix2621 The Iphone comparison is not good for one I kind of surprise you didn't look this up one came out in 2014 the other that get close came out in 2020, the other thing it all comes down to what games you want and the platform you have the greatest hardware in the world if they aren't games that are using the power what is the point.
@@footballtalk4857 2016! yes but the way its catching up is amazing, also most people these days game on phone ... handheld market is pretty strong and growing.. switch selling off shelves is a sign of it
@@willphoenix2621 Yes alot people do play games on the phone but an old iPhone can also play those games that are popular like I said for some that's all you need but for the AAA games the console/pc will likely be your best friend
I've got the 2018 razor blade 15 with the 1070 max q. And it's sad razor hasn't figured out the thermals. This thing is beautiful but it's impossible to touch when in use. I've had to repaste everything atleast once a year or the thermals get worse. I got that laptop because the head of IT bought it to try and switch from Mac OS, couldn't and I needed a laptop. If I'd had to pick or spend my own money it wouldn't be one of these.
I have a Razer Blade 15 Advanced 2021 and here it is in 2023 (1.5 years after purchase) and I am having to have the Daughterboard and Charging port replaced. The laptop has been on my desk, raised on a laptop stand, with chords not getting unplugged and replugged constantly. For a major part to fail after only 18 months is unacceptable for such an expensive piece of gear. And now that I have some more research, this is a common thing with these laptops. To top it off.. Razer only offers a 1 year warranty. Originally bought it so that when I go on deployment (Active Duty Military) I would have a decent spec pc I can bring with me. After I get back in February, I am building a tower and moving on. I will never recommend or buy another Razer pc.
First laptop I ever bought was a ROG G14 (R4600/gtx1660ti) and I can safely say overall it is perfect! wouldnt change it for the world, unless i won the lotto or something haha.
I bought a Razer 15 a couple years ago. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the heat!!! Man that thing gets hot!! But, when you need lots of power, heat is the result. Too bad there isn't some kind of add on that you can throw in a separate bag or something for when you need extra cooling power. Whoever invents that will make lots of money.
Zephyrus G14 is where it's at, i have the 2020 edition and it can run my school programs no problem, and pretty much any game as well. It does get hot, but name a gaming laptop that doesn't.
Still have my mercury white razer blade 15 2019 model with a 2070 and i don't see myself replacing it for a more powerful laptop as heat is a big problem and if i want to play demanding games I'll just play it on a much less expensive pc build comfortably, laptop is for travel and i travel a lot so i can game wherever i go 2070 can play anything as long as you don't expect to play at 4k.
I have a 2018 razer blade 15 adv. i recently bought a 14 inch base model macbook pro because i was so ashamed to sit in my class with my razer. The fan spins and produced a constant whine in the class right after booting up. The new mac is freezing cold and dead silent. They got me first time being macbook of windows. But, this time i got the original thing of what razer tried to be.
I really want a new Blade with the 4K screen and a minimum 32 GB of RAM for video and photo editing, I just wish I could compromise on the CPU and GPU. I definitely do not need the top CPU and a 3080 Ti, they're far too excessive for my needs and draw too much power. If I could spec my laptop as a 3060 and get the 32 GB of RAM and the 4K screen, I absolutely would. While I'm sure you can do something like that with the Creator spec 14s, I really do like the 15 and 17 inch form factors. It's tough, I wish Razer had more customizability.
I’m currently looking for a razor laptop. After I had my razor 17” motherboard got fried. Thanks for being real about the specs. You got my attention 👍🏽
Why can’t windows laptops figure out having the laptop quiet and cool on the lap while doing normal productivity? My 2014 MacBook Pro is a better productivity device then any of these work/gaming laptops because it doesn’t try to nuke my legs whenever I open three chrome tabs.
I’ve held many MacBooks and I’ve have to take them off of my lap many times before because they were so hot. and how are you comparing a device from 2014 to 2022? obviously 2022’s is gonna run louder and hotter, it has so much more going on in it.
@@okboomer1453 that’s not how it works. Consumer CPUs are built on a transistor node and have a set power limit. As we go from year to year the transistor node decreases for the CPUs resulting in a more powerful and power efficient CPU. It is the way SONY is able to release a launch version of a console and then a slim version a couple years later. They are both identical in performance, but the slim version that comes out a few years later is built on a smaller transistor node, so it uses less power and thus generates less heat. Apple is just better more power efficient with its CPUs while a lot of windows devices fit the most powerful & hottest CPU they possibly can so it looks better on paper.
The 3080ti may not be wort it for gaming but are the higher tier GPUs worth it for productivity? Even though the TDP is the same as the less expensive options, the 3080ti has physically more cores as well as other benefits compared to the 3060 or 3070.
This is a top tier gaming laptop for people who want the best build quality out of their gaming laptop. This is not for people who want to just watch TH-cam and type some docs etc. This is the best feeling and constructed gaming laptop. It’s for people who have the money, and don’t make comparisons between this or that. For some of us, this is the only option.
I’m looking for a good enough laptop for gaming. I’m not looking for anything complex, it just needs to be good enough to run my games without lagging.
I have the 2022 blade 15 with the 3080ti and i7 12700k. I really think its that i9 that makes it that hot. I wanted to 3070ti model but it was out of stock at the time. When using mine on my lap its hot but not unbearable. My living space is usually cold so i guess in a way it feels good.
So if you had to recommend a top of the line gaming laptop that had good cooling without the fans being overly loud unless really pushing the hardware. What laptop would you recommend?
Oh it will have the same issues but not as hard or as fast. But razer laptops are always very warm where the hands should rest. Not usable in the summer at all.
Playing games at 4k144hz, even Bloons is gonna push pretty much everything in there. Cap the FPS or upscale it might help. But then again, there's nothing Apple could ever do to make it worth it for me personally lol
I ended up going with a G14 and while there are a couple places that the Razer would win hands-down in terms of build quality (keyboard and overall feel), I think the G14 wins in terms of thermal performance. Yes, it gets hot under load, but the fans move an absolutely staggering amount of air. Plus, doing my normal work-related tasks, the fans hardly ever kick on.
I would point out that if this may be your ultimate purchase, it’s reasonable. I am 64 and looking for my “last machine”/ Do you want a Razer mouse from the 1990’s? I have one, back when they were the first mouse to address gaming, purchased online? I have one. Bidding may commence…
I have a razer blade previous gen. I’ve never had any issue with the keyboard being too hot. It gets a little warm but not terrible. I do agree tho 3060 or 3070 variants would be better value
Just got a Dell G15 Ryzen Edition with Ryzen 7 and RTX 3050ti and outside of only having 4GB of vram (which can be avoided by getting a RTX 3060 version) it's a really good laptop I can't recommend enough.
Dell sucks at the moment when it comes to bios all their devices except the xps line up just isn’t worth the money…I made a really bad choice getting an Alienware with ryzen cus the system keeps stuttering and lagging when connected to charger…I really hate that dell is ruining one of the best gaming laptops
2yrs ago I bought the nitro 5 thinking yes I got a budget gaming laptop. Didn't realize it's the 2019 model.. that can't play call of duty etc. And it isn't compatible with windows 11.. so now I need more input before buying just any gaming laptop
the razer devices are good but please do not get a 14/15 with anything other than like a 3060, 105 watts is just not enough for a 3070ti. The 17 has big power delivery but even then still stick to the 3070ti UNLESS you need more cores for work or something, I am speaking purely about gaming. Asus has MUCH more power for less money in still a nice looking device with much better cooling although in a thicker device.
I have last years model of the 15 I love mine I play rebirth on it and I get over 120 frames I love it for mobile gaming I stick a fan under it and ramp the fans up it stays pretty cool.
I really hope Razer improved the durability of the keyboard RGB LEDs. At work we use a couple of previous generation Razer 17 models and all of them have burned out LEDs. Not what I expected from premium laptops. 👎
Everything Matt is saying is real. Like I love my XPS, but man the heat is real! I'd love to see Intel step it up across the board but MacBooks look very appealing right now.
I got the Blade 2021 3070 and it's just awesome, didn't go for the 3080 due to the same, power up, overall if you got the means to get a blade is a fantastic piece of tech
That's basically going to be Louis rossmann level damage at that point in a couple of months or weeks or whatever that's going to melt and desolder in delaminate everything get Asus Also the mac comparison is because apple and razer are "razor thin" workstation class thats what he means core i9, top end gpu etc
Who games on their lap? Like can you play any first person shooter on your lap? With the touchpad? I simply have never heard of a single person gaming on their lap so I think this is not a real issue anyone has. Now the real downsides are the OUTRAGEOUS price $4,000 and the terrible battery life.
Razer doesn't support their products well. When I shell out high bucks for a product. I expect to be able to buy normal wear parts for it. I have a 6 year old Razer 14. Which works fine still however the battery doesn't hold a charge anymore. Which is to be expected. I tried buying 3 batteries from 3 different vendors using the part number from the battery which came with my Razer 14. None of them would last more than 10 seconds of showing the desktop with nothing running. I contacted Razer, they said I had to ship the laptop to them for diagnosis. Pay a diagnostic fee. Then if it were a battery as the issue which I knew it was. The cost to replace the battery would be $350 plus $99 for the diagnostic plus shipping. So they are copying Apple in repair and I am no longer a customer.
I do like the similar design to the MacBook and the rgb keyboard is just cool no matter what anyone says, a bit worried on what I hear because I’m looking for a new laptop/computer and I had my eyes on razer 15 3070ti for quite a while. Compared to a MacBook Air (2017) how much better is this including the cooling and all that?
Firstly, a MacBook Air is absolutely a terrible idea for gaming. And it's not really a fair comparison, but my 2015 model MacBook Air has absolutely HORRIBLE cooling. I can't say for 100% sure whether it's worse than a Razer, but from what all these reviewers are describing, a Blade is nowhere near the cooling issues I have with the MacBook. Under light load, it's uncomfortable to the touch, especially around the WASD area and along the screen, but even when I played Roblox back when I first got the laptop it was burning my fingers. Just terrible cooling solution. If you're going to get a MacBook, get anything but the Air. If it's either this or the Air for you, definitely go for Razer for better performance and cooling.
Had two razor laptops so far. A blade 15 144hz 1660ti and currently using a blade 14 3080 (2021) . Going all in for the blade 17 when the mobile 4000 series drops
Is the size of the 14 as bad as I'm thinking it is? I want a laptop for school, video and photo editing, and gaming on the side. I need the 32GB and the 4K screen, which I believe the 14 offers for much cheaper than 15 and 17, but I'm concerned about the size.
@@raynjpg it doesn't feel too small like at 13. It's a great size for productivity and gaming. It doesn't have 4k or 32gb ram (you can't upgrade it either) options tho so you might want to look elsewhere. Razer still has the best build quality tho, but 4k laptops usually get the premium gpus so they won't be cheap.
@@myricalcampbell6156 yeah, i went back to their website right after this comment and forgot to correct myself. looks like i'll be avoiding the 14, as I at the very least wanted 32GB of RAM and the QHD screen. i did find a 17" with 32GB of RAM and the UHD with the 3070 Ti instead of the 3080 Ti, and I'd save a couple hundred bucks, but man it's still hard to call it on a decision like this. I'll probably look around at other brands, but it's hard to beat the build quality and looks of a Blade.
@@raynjpg you might want to look at an external monitor if you will be working at at home, if not there aren't many options below 2 grand for what you want
In short, windows laptops are just in efficient so they are upgrading so much that gets so hot and battery sucks. They built a culture of power, high end and high specs but they are inefficient for apps or games.
If you want portability and ergonomics. Get a MacBook. No one does it better. BUT macs can't game. Period. If you want a portable game box, expect a laptop at least 1 inch thick to cool adequately.
Earlier this year I was thinking about buying a fully specced out Razer Blade but then I realized I could just buy an M1 Macbook Air for everything I have to do on the go and spend the rest building a PC and it's been the best decision I've ever made tbh
This is the way
I rationally know this is the way. But why does everything have to be so fucking complicated. I just want one machine for everything. Everything.
@@DailyShit. preach. Why cant one be perfect for everything
Yeah, I’ll probably go this way with my pc upgrade.
sold Razer, got mac book air and xbox series x for gaming, not looking back. Battery life on macbook air, game changer
I hate how companies have just decided "Cooling doesn't matter, it just needs to be thin".
I don't know about the rest of you but I would be more than happy with a thicker laptop of it meant I could actually get the performance out of the components that I paid for.
Kinda a shame that they don't max out the battery to 99.9Wh and keep 4 fans for the Pro 17. I mean you paid almost $2500 up to $4200 for the laptop.
They need Liquid Metal or PTM 7950 on day one.
@@cemsengul16 That will do effectively nothing. Maybe a degree or two but that means nothing if the heatsink isn't big enough to deal with the thermals. If anything it will make it heatsoak faster because of the quicker heat transfer.
@@janemba42 I have seen results though. A Blade Advanced can stay in the 70s celsius range while gaming with Liquid Metal.
@@cemsengul16 Liquid metal ain't going to drop the temperatures that much if the cooling solution is at it's limit. I have not seen once anywhere, on any of the tech channels I watch or even anywhere on the internet, a temperature drop of 20c from liquid metal. Sounds to me like it just had garbage paste to begin with or it was just dirty. That is the only situation where that could happen. One thing I've learned about high end laptops is that the thermal paste is only just good enough to cut back on cost.
Thanks for the unbiased review! Im sorta settled for the razer as its clean looking so i can use it at work and also play games after work. I was initially going for the full speced model, but have read about their top tier model being bottlenecked giving in reality only a few percent more benchmark scores than the lower tier model with a 3070ti. So i wanted to confirm to get the lower tier model for the best bang for the buck. A 1000€ extra to get their top tier model is really insane knowing tech values change very fast.
Hey @didnthurt can you tell me hows your laptop experience now and does it have the heating issue on palm area and lap rest
@@jaskarankang3604 i didnt buy any yet. Will see whats good on cyberday.. if theres a good offer i might go for it. Currently leaning more towards Asus m16 or until the new Razers blade drop with the oled screen.
@@didnthurt4077 I really wanna get a 4K res Razer with the 32 GB of RAM but I don't want the 3080 Ti. It's tough.
@@didnthurt4077 might as well get something from the asus zephyrus line.
I‘ve been using a Razer Blade 14 daily for school, editing and gaming and haven‘t had a single issue in over 7 months
same) I have Razer Blade 15 and it works fine
alienware open box when its available at microcenter is an amazing deal
I’ve seen so many people have issues with Razer laptop batteries becoming bloated, I’m sure many laptops have that issue but like damn really puts you off
I swear its one of the biggest turn offs especially when you don't live in the US😔
I think it honestly has to do with people not checking temps on their laptops, I’ve had my blade for around 3 years now and no issues, knock on wood. I did a thermal pad mod to the laptop, basically putting thermal pads on the laptop so the bottom lid acts like a heat sink and I’ve been fine with temps
I’m happy with my Razer Blade 15 - bought it broken for $400 from eBay and repaired the motherboard - love it but wouldn’t spend $2k+ for it
I've had nothing but issues with my recent Razer laptops. I first tried the Razer Book, and the keyboard and hinge were faulty. Now I have a Razer Blade 14 with AMD, and the screen has random vertical artifacts in the center screen. Works alright with Fedora OS.
sounds like u got bad luck
Loll I own 3 blades all broken. They still work but 1% trust. Razer lost a costumer... Can't recommend it anymore. Only one year ?! 2019... Shame
The heat issues have always been a thing with Razer laptops. I think the next models need to really address it. I really like the form factor as well and if they want to keep it I believe they need to change the materials its made out of. Either that or bite the bullet and make it a bit thicker, add better fans, and maybe make the entire bottom ventilated. Somethings got to give, especially at this price.
as a razor owner, the heating is a huge problem for me, the area right above the F keys gets super hot and can hurt my fingers if i try to play a heavy game, but given my computer is 4 years old
There is a super easy fix that Razer just hasn't done. Liquid Metal drops the Blades temps by over 10c, combined with even a small undervolt (very easy to do) will see the CPU drop from 100c down to the low 80s. The GPU temp have never been an issue on the 2018+ Blades. Lenovo, Dell, Asus & MSI have all converted to liquid metal but for some reason Razer just won't do it despite the massive benefit.
Any laptop with this kind of form factor will have heating issues... Cap the framerates, dont block th e vents and it should be fine. Its only stupid users who dont know what they are doing are the ones conplaining about this.
@@zihuatenejo i literly have my computer floating to get more airflow form the fans underneath, and my resolution set to 1080p instead of 4k and my computer still burns my hands
@@kingdom9214 hey, would you kindly illustrate how I can do this to mine?
I have one Razer Blade advanced 2021 with RTX3080. It's really hot and noisy if your OS is windows, but not that much when running in Linux. So now when I do my daily work like coding or web browsing, I use Ubuntu as my OS. After work, I reboot into windows to play games. This is also an alternaive use choice.
Did you have any issues setting up dual boot?
Just bought a Zephyrus G14 a few weeks ago and I love it! It gets great battery life and gaming performance is fantastic! The Blade series is good but I'm not sure about spending all that extra.
Have a 2021 G14, want to upgrade to a 2022 since the better display would be more beneficial for the work I do. Doesn't seem like any Canadian retailers are carrying it just yet though.
I'm planning on buying a 2021 G15 next week just because of the battery life.
All that extra does get you a lot more than the G14. The Zephyrus stuff is good but people don't talk about the corners ASUS cuts to bring the price down.
Owned this laptop for 3 weeks and ive come across a few problems....
Overheating and shutting down, I've re-pasted and the laptop has improved 2/3% ive ordered some thermal pads from China and hoping the temps will drop. Other then thats the laptop is beautiful, i mean stunning. Razer have built the perfect laptop - the temps.( such a shame ) get the temps right with the thermal pads and nothing on the market will beat it. Period
Did you fix it
@@texas3258 no not really.
I just re-pasted with the artic mx3 and used a laptop stand ( well ones you wedge under the back) just lifted the rear by around 3-5 cms and worked a treat. Also running in balanced mode ans fans set to full. Most games are fine but warzone eats the cpu. Hitting 80s 90s regularly
@@leechurchill5182 Amen, same problem with 2070 and warzone, it has now expanded my battery from overheating, also synapse keeps crashing randomly - software a bit buggy and same problem with audio. Not happy with it, but much better experience then Dell XPS 15 😄 Next one is gonna be Asus M16 or Flow x16
does it heat if used for graphic design for example or other apps not gaming?
@@sbstianshows1344 yes but nothing like WZ gaming at 4k lol
Time to cook some eggs🍳🥚 on that 3080 ti grill
I will NEVER buy another Razer laptop after wasting $5,000 on the 17” Razer Pro. Laptop Constantly overheated while keyboard burned my hands 🥵
Damn hope you ok
I'm surprised your laptop didn't explode
@@LordYamcha It took a bit to recover… physically & financially 🙂
@@tubby_1278 Honestly, that did cross my mind because phone batteries were exploding a lot around that time 😕
did you try undervolting?
Tested this laptop too and I can confirm, 3080ti is way too much for this chassis. Warm to the touch does not bother me as I prefer it to an ice cold laptop. Only moment it really gets uncomfortable is in gaming where it really is hot, but again I don't game on my lap.
As gamer and professional I have to point out a few misinformations ; Apple/Macbook always gets praised in terms of heat and fan noise in comparison, but the GPU is not even comparable. They dodge this scenario with the argument: "oh but it's not designed for gaming, for this for that..." I don't buy that, I pay premium price I want to throw whatever I want to, and expect my computer to handle it. Also , there are modes in the software; in silent mode, you can still do basic editing, photoshop work, light 3D design, do some gaming with minimum noise and heat. I have just finished Sifu this way , you can surely play phone games as well ;) battery life is truly sh*t though
Yeah I don’t get it like Mac doesn’t even compete with other windows laptops out there when it comes to heavy gpu tasks n his reasoning for razer not useable as a laptop is cus he can’t use it on his lap gaming laptops are called gaming laptops for a reason and these guys keep failing to mention that everytime they shit on any gaming laptop.
They shouldve done it like asus tuf and acer nitro laptops where igpu is used for light tasks and when doing heavy work or connecting to monitor it should use rtx
Yup, like that feature alot on my TUF.
Isn't that a driver setting though? So Matt could've set that game to use the iGPU
@i meant that the laptop getting hot means it might not have an iGPU
@ you need an internal mox chip for that
@@jamescunningham.8294 or just have to have the dGPU connected trough the iGPU.
We had laptops with both gpus for years.
I have to 2021 rtx 3060 model and don't deal with the best issues you guys were talking about. Even when playing AAA games, sure it gets warm, but never unusable. I believe that is an issues with the 3080 model specifically.
I don't like a windows gaming laptop being compared to a macbook, they are very different machines. I've been a windows gamer all my life and when I went to college I decided to buy a macbook for my studies. I shit you not, I felt like I spent $1500 on a toy that ran an outdated mac version of Microsoft word (which was all that was available at the time) on a somewhat nicely built laptop. One of the biggest regrets of my life. I could have just bought a $200 small and light windows netbook
Thanks for this, I was seriously considering the Razer 15, and your honest opinions here, unlike in other videos really helped me decide to buy the base model.
I bought the razer as a desktop replacement and its the perfect laptop for that scenario. Loving my rtx 2060 laptop i got back in 2019, though the major downside is the battery only getting me 5hrs but in 98% of my days I don't use it that much anyways
I have a razer blade from a couple years ago, i7 9700 and 2060 I believe (too lazy to check) it works great for portable gaming. I bring it with me when I want to game while visiting family or anything. It runs apex amazing at 144hz on the 1080p display that mine has.
Is it really a bad deal to spend 4k on a laptop?
You can get a 3050 in a laptop under $1000 USD. You can literally buy 3 laptops and a nice monitor, dock, keyboard and mouse for the cost of one razer
right now getting an Xbox Series S is probably the best option for gaming
Agreed. 1080p to 1440p gaming at 30fps to 60 fps for 300 dollars is the best bang for the buck.
@@MrWang. absolutely my friend I think Microsoft nailed this generation let's see what we get next, im pretty optimist about handheld gaming ... I think it has potential to beat the consoles in future considering the fact that an iPhone 12pro max is at par in Graphics performance with PS4 Pro ... also services like Game pass and Apple Arcade
@@willphoenix2621 The Iphone comparison is not good for one I kind of surprise you didn't look this up one came out in 2014 the other that get close came out in 2020, the other thing it all comes down to what games you want and the platform you have the greatest hardware in the world if they aren't games that are using the power what is the point.
@@footballtalk4857 2016! yes but the way its catching up is amazing, also most people these days game on phone ... handheld market is pretty strong and growing.. switch selling off shelves is a sign of it
@@willphoenix2621 Yes alot people do play games on the phone but an old iPhone can also play those games that are popular like I said for some that's all you need but for the AAA games the console/pc will likely be your best friend
I've got the 2018 razor blade 15 with the 1070 max q. And it's sad razor hasn't figured out the thermals. This thing is beautiful but it's impossible to touch when in use. I've had to repaste everything atleast once a year or the thermals get worse. I got that laptop because the head of IT bought it to try and switch from Mac OS, couldn't and I needed a laptop. If I'd had to pick or spend my own money it wouldn't be one of these.
Damn, Razer is having some thermal issue. My Blade 15 (2018) has no heat issue at all, but my new Blade 14 cpu temp is 70C+, and it's getting hot.
I have a Razer Blade 15 Advanced 2021 and here it is in 2023 (1.5 years after purchase) and I am having to have the Daughterboard and Charging port replaced. The laptop has been on my desk, raised on a laptop stand, with chords not getting unplugged and replugged constantly.
For a major part to fail after only 18 months is unacceptable for such an expensive piece of gear. And now that I have some more research, this is a common thing with these laptops.
To top it off.. Razer only offers a 1 year warranty. Originally bought it so that when I go on deployment (Active Duty Military) I would have a decent spec pc I can bring with me.
After I get back in February, I am building a tower and moving on. I will never recommend or buy another Razer pc.
A great alternative to the blade 15 is the msi gs 66 which is cheaper and runs under light load at only 40 degrees cpu temp
40 degrees is something i dream of
i bought a 15 with a 1650 and it slaps. genuinely the least buyers remorse ever experienced on on a laptop purchase. cost me 1500 +tax
also spent like 150 on a 1tb ssd to throw it in there
@@DeadTired171 zamnnn really i hate my asus tuf fx505 but I'm planning to buy a school only laptop, ryzen 5500U 900$AU
First laptop I ever bought was a ROG G14 (R4600/gtx1660ti) and I can safely say overall it is perfect! wouldnt change it for the world, unless i won the lotto or something haha.
I bought a Razer 15 a couple years ago. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the heat!!! Man that thing gets hot!! But, when you need lots of power, heat is the result. Too bad there isn't some kind of add on that you can throw in a separate bag or something for when you need extra cooling power. Whoever invents that will make lots of money.
Zephyrus G14 is where it's at, i have the 2020 edition and it can run my school programs no problem, and pretty much any game as well. It does get hot, but name a gaming laptop that doesn't.
Cool review... did you test the brightness of the 4K screen?😀
Austin: "We're not gonna spend $4,000 on a laptop."
M1 Max Macbook: *cough cough*
Austin: "Most of the time."
Currently rocking a Blade 17 with a 3070ti, 1080P 360hz screen and this thing is a beast. I believe 1080p on a 17 inch screen is still perfect
Still have my mercury white razer blade 15 2019 model with a 2070 and i don't see myself replacing it for a more powerful laptop as heat is a big problem and if i want to play demanding games I'll just play it on a much less expensive pc build comfortably, laptop is for travel and i travel a lot so i can game wherever i go 2070 can play anything as long as you don't expect to play at 4k.
I have a 2018 razer blade 15 adv. i recently bought a 14 inch base model macbook pro because i was so ashamed to sit in my class with my razer. The fan spins and produced a constant whine in the class right after booting up. The new mac is freezing cold and dead silent. They got me first time being macbook of windows. But, this time i got the original thing of what razer tried to be.
I really want a new Blade with the 4K screen and a minimum 32 GB of RAM for video and photo editing, I just wish I could compromise on the CPU and GPU. I definitely do not need the top CPU and a 3080 Ti, they're far too excessive for my needs and draw too much power. If I could spec my laptop as a 3060 and get the 32 GB of RAM and the 4K screen, I absolutely would. While I'm sure you can do something like that with the Creator spec 14s, I really do like the 15 and 17 inch form factors. It's tough, I wish Razer had more customizability.
I’m currently looking for a razor laptop. After I had my razor 17” motherboard got fried. Thanks for being real about the specs. You got my attention 👍🏽
Hey, cool video! What do you think of the MSI Creator Z16P instead? The MSI has vapor cooling.
But wouldn’t the 3080 be worth it if vram is the goal? Not performance speed but not crashing? Plz advise
Why can’t windows laptops figure out having the laptop quiet and cool on the lap while doing normal productivity? My 2014 MacBook Pro is a better productivity device then any of these work/gaming laptops because it doesn’t try to nuke my legs whenever I open three chrome tabs.
Because it’s more powerful, it’s like saying a Tesla is quit than a Lamborghini
I’ve held many MacBooks and I’ve have to take them off of my lap many times before because they were so hot. and how are you comparing a device from 2014 to 2022? obviously 2022’s is gonna run louder and hotter, it has so much more going on in it.
@@okboomer1453 that’s not how it works. Consumer CPUs are built on a transistor node and have a set power limit. As we go from year to year the transistor node decreases for the CPUs resulting in a more powerful and power efficient CPU. It is the way SONY is able to release a launch version of a console and then a slim version a couple years later. They are both identical in performance, but the slim version that comes out a few years later is built on a smaller transistor node, so it uses less power and thus generates less heat. Apple is just better more power efficient with its CPUs while a lot of windows devices fit the most powerful & hottest CPU they possibly can so it looks better on paper.
To be fair, when I play bloons my pc turns into a space heater
I was told by Razer Tech support when using a second monitor on the Razer laptop it becomes 60hz no matter if the monitor can do 120hz or 240hz plus
The 3080ti may not be wort it for gaming but are the higher tier GPUs worth it for productivity? Even though the TDP is the same as the less expensive options, the 3080ti has physically more cores as well as other benefits compared to the 3060 or 3070.
I'm very happy I clicked on your video before I pulled the trigger on this. Thanks guys, new sub here.
There is no need for a 4k screen at that size.... high refresh is fine but oled would be great
@@blue4059 not on a small screen it isnt
@@blue4059 ill take 1440p at 120hz or 144hz with a oled screen at that size anyday over 4k because 4k is simply not noticeable on small screens
This is a top tier gaming laptop for people who want the best build quality out of their gaming laptop. This is not for people who want to just watch TH-cam and type some docs etc. This is the best feeling and constructed gaming laptop. It’s for people who have the money, and don’t make comparisons between this or that. For some of us, this is the only option.
I want it for video and photo editing and some gaming on the side.
I’m looking for a good enough laptop for gaming. I’m not looking for anything complex, it just needs to be good enough to run my games without lagging.
I have the 2022 blade 15 with the 3080ti and i7 12700k. I really think its that i9 that makes it that hot. I wanted to 3070ti model but it was out of stock at the time. When using mine on my lap its hot but not unbearable. My living space is usually cold so i guess in a way it feels good.
Which is the base model?
I have a Rog Strix g15 513 and I can't be happier, this notebook is awesome.
So if you had to recommend a top of the line gaming laptop that had good cooling without the fans being overly loud unless really pushing the hardware. What laptop would you recommend?
razer blade 14
there take was bad im literally using my 14 right now and never had heat issues
Just to clarify, there's no way a Razer 15 i7 3060/70 would have the same heating issue as this overkill i9 3080 you guys reviewed ?
Oh it will have the same issues but not as hard or as fast. But razer laptops are always very warm where the hands should rest. Not usable in the summer at all.
Oh yeah?! What about RAZER CAR!?!?!?
I have the razer blade 17 4k 144hz rtx 3080 ti i9 12th Gen processor and although v expensive... It is out of this world amazing
It has a 3080ti, yes its gonna be hot all the time. There isn't enough thermal mass to keep it cool.
Playing games at 4k144hz, even Bloons is gonna push pretty much everything in there. Cap the FPS or upscale it might help. But then again, there's nothing Apple could ever do to make it worth it for me personally lol
I ended up going with a G14 and while there are a couple places that the Razer would win hands-down in terms of build quality (keyboard and overall feel), I think the G14 wins in terms of thermal performance. Yes, it gets hot under load, but the fans move an absolutely staggering amount of air. Plus, doing my normal work-related tasks, the fans hardly ever kick on.
What are the specs of your G14 am thinking of getting one how does it do for gaming?
I would point out that if this may be your ultimate purchase, it’s reasonable. I am 64 and looking for my “last machine”/
Do you want a Razer mouse from the 1990’s? I have one, back when they were the first mouse to address gaming, purchased online? I have one. Bidding may commence…
I have a razer blade previous gen. I’ve never had any issue with the keyboard being too hot. It gets a little warm but not terrible. I do agree tho 3060 or 3070 variants would be better value
I found the razerblade 15 on ebay for 300 dollars used. Am I being scammed?
Just got a Dell G15 Ryzen Edition with Ryzen 7 and RTX 3050ti and outside of only having 4GB of vram (which can be avoided by getting a RTX 3060 version) it's a really good laptop I can't recommend enough.
Dell sucks at the moment when it comes to bios all their devices except the xps line up just isn’t worth the money…I made a really bad choice getting an Alienware with ryzen cus the system keeps stuttering and lagging when connected to charger…I really hate that dell is ruining one of the best gaming laptops
Razer always had a heat problem they even claim that's ok if it hits 100c
go for run out models if you going for Razer....crazy discounts if your prepaired for previous gen old stock clearance models.
I bought an ideapad gaming 3 with a 3050 and its great. Only complaint i have is its brightness could be a little brighter
The heat issues are annoying, I have to bring a cooling pad with me anywhere I go.
2yrs ago I bought the nitro 5 thinking yes I got a budget gaming laptop. Didn't realize it's the 2019 model.. that can't play call of duty etc. And it isn't compatible with windows 11.. so now I need more input before buying just any gaming laptop
the razer devices are good but please do not get a 14/15 with anything other than like a 3060, 105 watts is just not enough for a 3070ti. The 17 has big power delivery but even then still stick to the 3070ti UNLESS you need more cores for work or something, I am speaking purely about gaming. Asus has MUCH more power for less money in still a nice looking device with much better cooling although in a thicker device.
I have last years model of the 15 I love mine I play rebirth on it and I get over 120 frames I love it for mobile gaming I stick a fan under it and ramp the fans up it stays pretty cool.
I really hope Razer improved the durability of the keyboard RGB LEDs. At work we use a couple of previous generation Razer 17 models and all of them have burned out LEDs. Not what I expected from premium laptops. 👎
Everything Matt is saying is real. Like I love my XPS, but man the heat is real! I'd love to see Intel step it up across the board but MacBooks look very appealing right now.
Except when you go to play a game and your new Macbook can't even run even the least demanding titles above 30fps...
i think the amd ryzen processors still look good. extremely efficient and still have alot of power, excited what they pull out next year
I got the Blade 2021 3070 and it's just awesome, didn't go for the 3080 due to the same, power up, overall if you got the means to get a blade is a fantastic piece of tech
I got one brand new for $1899 😀
That's basically going to be Louis rossmann level damage at that point in a couple of months or weeks or whatever that's going to melt and desolder in delaminate everything get Asus
Also the mac comparison is because apple and razer are "razor thin" workstation class thats what he means core i9, top end gpu etc
Who games on their lap? Like can you play any first person shooter on your lap? With the touchpad? I simply have never heard of a single person gaming on their lap so I think this is not a real issue anyone has. Now the real downsides are the OUTRAGEOUS price $4,000 and the terrible battery life.
I will never pay $4,000 for a laptop.
Razer doesn't support their products well.
When I shell out high bucks for a product. I expect to be able to buy normal wear parts for it.
I have a 6 year old Razer 14. Which works fine still however the battery doesn't hold a charge anymore.
Which is to be expected.
I tried buying 3 batteries from 3 different vendors using the part number from the battery which came with my Razer 14.
None of them would last more than 10 seconds of showing the desktop with nothing running.
I contacted Razer, they said I had to ship the laptop to them for diagnosis. Pay a diagnostic fee. Then if it were a battery as the issue which I knew it was.
The cost to replace the battery would be $350 plus $99 for the diagnostic plus shipping.
So they are copying Apple in repair and I am no longer a customer.
I use a blade 14 5900hx 3060 at 1800USD I have no serious complaints. After a year, I would definitely get an low spec blade 15 in its place tho.
So what’s the best laptop lap desk with fan for the Razer 15?
wait until windows for ARM becomes a thing ... MacBook Pro will be the best gain laptop out there
I bought this as my first gaming laptop/ pc. Hopefully it will serve me well.
$1400 on Ebay btw
@@qphlat27how is it now
It is now impossible for me to return from the comfort of use that the case of the 16" m1 pro provides without getting hot.
Bloons Tower Defense is more CPU intensive than you might think. :P
I do like the similar design to the MacBook and the rgb keyboard is just cool no matter what anyone says, a bit worried on what I hear because I’m looking for a new laptop/computer and I had my eyes on razer 15 3070ti for quite a while.
Compared to a MacBook Air (2017) how much better is this including the cooling and all that?
Firstly, a MacBook Air is absolutely a terrible idea for gaming. And it's not really a fair comparison, but my 2015 model MacBook Air has absolutely HORRIBLE cooling. I can't say for 100% sure whether it's worse than a Razer, but from what all these reviewers are describing, a Blade is nowhere near the cooling issues I have with the MacBook. Under light load, it's uncomfortable to the touch, especially around the WASD area and along the screen, but even when I played Roblox back when I first got the laptop it was burning my fingers. Just terrible cooling solution.
If you're going to get a MacBook, get anything but the Air. If it's either this or the Air for you, definitely go for Razer for better performance and cooling.
It's interesting I have the razer blade 2018 and it gets warm on lap but it actually nice. This seems it's way too hot in the newer laptops.
I’m thinking of buying a used 2018 model. What do you think of buying a 32gb 2018/19 model in 2022
Had two razor laptops so far. A blade 15 144hz 1660ti and currently using a blade 14 3080 (2021) . Going all in for the blade 17 when the mobile 4000 series drops
Is the size of the 14 as bad as I'm thinking it is? I want a laptop for school, video and photo editing, and gaming on the side. I need the 32GB and the 4K screen, which I believe the 14 offers for much cheaper than 15 and 17, but I'm concerned about the size.
@@raynjpg it doesn't feel too small like at 13. It's a great size for productivity and gaming. It doesn't have 4k or 32gb ram (you can't upgrade it either) options tho so you might want to look elsewhere. Razer still has the best build quality tho, but 4k laptops usually get the premium gpus so they won't be cheap.
@@myricalcampbell6156 yeah, i went back to their website right after this comment and forgot to correct myself. looks like i'll be avoiding the 14, as I at the very least wanted 32GB of RAM and the QHD screen. i did find a 17" with 32GB of RAM and the UHD with the 3070 Ti instead of the 3080 Ti, and I'd save a couple hundred bucks, but man it's still hard to call it on a decision like this. I'll probably look around at other brands, but it's hard to beat the build quality and looks of a Blade.
@@raynjpg you might want to look at an external monitor if you will be working at at home, if not there aren't many options below 2 grand for what you want
@@raynjpg look one of these up Legion Slim 7 Gen 6 AMD (15") with RTX 3060
Have a razerblazw stealth w the gtx 1650ti in it. Never used it for gaming, more of a work computer and I really enjoy it
In short, windows laptops are just in efficient so they are upgrading so much that gets so hot and battery sucks. They built a culture of power, high end and high specs but they are inefficient for apps or games.
great video like always
16:9... nah. A deal breaker.
Me who's never had a pc and uses a laptop for everything.
Has Austin checked out the framework laptops yet.
This channel should be sponsored by Red Bull, you guys made a PC for Checco 🤣
NGL, that special sauce sounding kinda nice 🤔😂
I got one. It gets hot but you just got to toughen up a bit. The crazy thin design with an epic display its the ding dong of monkey buttons.
Did u sell it
If you want portability and ergonomics. Get a MacBook. No one does it better. BUT macs can't game. Period. If you want a portable game box, expect a laptop at least 1 inch thick to cool adequately.
Would the 3060 base over heat the same?
why do they still have the Gfuel peanut butter and jelly
Oh, one more thing! How can you even compare a Mac to this machine?? If you want power, Mac doesn't have it.
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I love my razerblade 15 oled with the 3070 ti. All the games looks amazing 😍.