2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid VS 2023 Honda CR-V Turbo: Which Powertrain Is Best?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2022
- Today I compare a 2023 Honda CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid to a 2023 Honda CR-V EX-L Turbo!
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I noticed you had the hybrid in Sport mode when you said it was noisier. That is because the sport mode in the hybrid pipes sound into the cabin to make it sound more aggressive. If you didn’t have it in sport mode it would have been quieter than the 1.5 turbo.
It's there an option to turn off the sound injection?
@@v205 I do not know for sure but I don’t think there is. I think that is a missed opportunity.
@@v205 yes in eco mode it shuts off.
Both are too expensive for now ! Especially in Canada …
You are correct in sport mode the computer create a fake engine noise inside the cabin that is pretty loud, I think is stupid.
It looks as if I have to keep my 2014 CR-V forever with it's 2.4l NA motor, 5 spd auto, spare tire, and gets 26 mpg in all city driving and it's paid for, with 127k miles everything works perfectly...
Good review thanks
There’s only one CVT option and it comes with the 1.5 turbo
The hybrid dose not have a CVT it has 2 electric motors one driven by the engine like a generator and one by the battery + generator.
At highway speeds it has a direct drive mode with the engine powering the wheels directly but only in a certain speed range 🤙
yup, it calls eCVT...people always confuse eCVT=CVT....its not, its 2 different thing
@@azzdesigner no no ecvt = toyota hybrid
Honda doesn't have a gearbox of any kind. this car is 99% powered by an electric motor. Only in a narrow range of speeds, the visco clutch, connects the petrol engine to the wheels. I'm not kidding, check it out. Regards
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After reading an online review by Car&Driver magazine I pretty much thought what you say is what they said. However, I still have a hard time understanding how this works and what is different between the 2WD and the AWD models. I have come close a few times to buying a hybrid vehicle, I was very impressed by a Toyota Avalon Hybrid, but a lot of my driving is high speeds.
@Luis Good question, did you ever get a answer to that???
The light on the visor mirror is not adjustable and the temperature cannot be displayed on the information screen. Like the heated steering wheel.
This was an excellent video. I think for most people, the decision between the hybrid and turbo is a much more difficult decision than deciding between the CR-V and other companies' competing models. Gearheads seem to be split on the engine: Some like the simplicity of the non-hybrid and others do not like anything that has a turbo attached to it. I hope you do a refresh comparison with the 2024 CR-V's, even if they haven't changed much from 2023. Honda will toss in some meaningful subtle tweaks when there are no substantial changes.
I like the noise, it's not droning, it mimics sports cars, trading my 2020 crv hybrid for thos one
Hybrid battery can cost upto $8K. So, you get a saving then after 8 years you have to buy a new battery or get rid of the CRV.
Try 12-15 years or 250k miles and like 3k lol
I'll perfur both of these Honda CR-V's Ben.
Great review. I'm looking to get one end of the month. Was excited for hybrid but you made a great point about driving situations. I live in rural area in New York and 90% of my driving is a 20 minute drive to work on the highway. Think I'll get the EXL. I prefer the 2L but 1.5L with Turbo should do the trick. I'm pretty excited. I had a 2007 AWD and 2012 AWD CRVs loved those then got a 2018 BMW X1 early midlife crisis haha, now I'm back to reality. This will be my first brand new car looking to keep it for a long long time. I'd love an Acura RDX A Spec but that's not happening haha. CRV for the win.
Avoid any car that has CVT (belt) transmission
Car mechanic here
@@tberjashi6707 Its a Honda!
@@tberjashi6707he’s right you will spend more time at dealer than if u owned old bmw
The Hybrid is a much nicer vehicle to drive in any situation…and doesn’t have a cvt.
heyzooz, I agree with your thinking on a financial basis. Just be sure to look into whether Honda has defeated the oil dilution issue with their 1.5T engine. Look into what another respondant to you said...."It's Not a CVT tranny". It is called e-cvt by Honda. It is different and particular to Honda only (unlike Subarus or Nissan Rogue). We (actually my wife's car) our 3rd CRV [2010; 2013; and now a 2016 with only 42K miles on it], never had a problem with any of them [Other than the Air Bag issue with our 2013 which we traded in May 2016] . Just change the oil, buy new tires, new brake pads - good to go. With regular gas, doing Max 65-70 MPH with Non Winter Gas in NY, we get about 29-30 MPGs on the highway. I have "wrestled" with Trading the 2016 in for a new CRV (either the EXL or the Hybrid Sport Touring) but the Pricing is through the Roof. FWIW, if you can find one, take a look at a used 2021 HYbrid. I test drove that car about a year ago (new) and was impressed with the upgrade in HP power and Torque and of course the Uptick in MPGs! - and extra features of Honda Safety Fetaures. But after doing the Math, decided to keep it, put new tires on it and good to go for her purposes of primarily local driving in retirement. I will say, the new 2023 is better looking in its redesign (in fact it looks like a baby Brother to my 22 Acura MDX).
on that hybrid..when you had the back liftgate open and couldn't lift up the trunk lid...let folks know...there's NO spare tire in the car...just a can of spray tire seal..which may not work....Also at 8 years or 100,000 miles a new battery is going to cost $2,000 to $5,000.
Hybrid Battery Replacement Timeline
While a standard auto battery is replaced every two or three years on average, the hybrid battery lasts considerably longer. In fact, your car won’t require a hybrid battery replacement until around 150,000 miles or 15 years under normal conditions! This is just an average, so a driver in New London might need a replacement sooner than another driver in Branford. But even if the battery fails prematurely for some reason, Honda has you covered for 8 years or 100,000 miles by the limited warranty!
Getting an EX-L AWD, I was attracted to the Hybrid at first but the mileage isn't that much better on road trips and no spare is a deal killer for me traveling throughout the southwest US deserts and other long road trips.
Wait y’all are at Stockton 12 honda? bc i bought my Honda crv sport touring hybrid there
Thanks Ben,
Very interesting review. We are looking for a replacement of our '18 NA Mazda CX-5, its a great handling SUV, the steering wheel feeling is great, drives like a sporty sedan. Just hate that it does not have enough power when crossing heavy traffic, the brakes take to long to stop compared to my Honda Accord V6. The rear seats do not incline as needed. Has a lovely sporty look and is very reliable with good MPG. We had a prior Honda '08 CRV and a '04 Pilot that we loved, so maybe we would come back to a new Honda CRV, they look attractive, just need to decide between the Turbo and the Hybrid, for sure better torque would be a deciding factor and good braking.👍
Is this the same hybrid powertrain from the previous generation, 2022?
Ben, how would you compare these for fast & high mountain roads, such as Salt Lake to Park City or Denver to Vail? Also, how would you compare these for passing on 2 lane roads, say 50-70 mph?
My comparison, thanks to Planet Honda in Golden, CO: both the turbo/gas and hybrid do fine on the I-70 grades west of Denver, but I agree with the dealer that the turbo feels peppier and the non-turbo hybrid seems to lose a lot of punch at altitude.
This new design is awesome
More solid look
Would traffic qualify as city mpg?
I think I decided on the exl and one of the drawbacks is that the hybrid does not have a spare tire, greetings, and happy new year!😊
When is the last time you had a flat? 10MPG better I like the Hybrid
@@jimijefferson82 good luck, I do prefer a spare tire than a dangeroes situación, safety first. Sorry for my english I’m forma Mexico !! Regards
@@gerardorivera9471en serio no tiene llanta de refacción ???? No me imagino eso camino a Huatulco y pinchar una llata😮😮😮😮 he estado 15 días pensando en cuál comprar y ahora me queda claroooo 😢
@@gusgus6107 así es, en carreteras y caminos en Mexico si es un tema importante a considerar, pues a veces las cosas pasan en los momentos , lugares y horarios menos deseables !!! Saludos
Thanks for the nice review! With regards to the “noise” in the Sport Hybrid, it’s interesting how you, as well as some others, complain/comment about the added acceleration sound in Sport mode. A) Aside from doing it for shits and giggles, is the demographic for the CRV even going to use sport mode much? B) Although I would like an option to toggle the added acceleration noise on/off, it kind of adds to the “Sport Mode” experience, if that’s what you want.
Thank you
Needed to do a 0-60 and actual highway driving comparison.
Hybrid is 7.6 seconds and the 1.5 turbocharged is 8.6 seconds
I wish Honda would have dressed the 1.5t a bit more. They def geared a bit more styling options on the hybrid.
So, hybrid is not good I’m the mountains?
I know from experience that our 3.5l v6 Honda engine is junk in the higher elevation.
Trying to decide between Crv or Outback boxer w turbo
The Honda FL5 turbo Hybrid type R Cr-v. Very nice.
We went for the EXL because I hated the orange stitching and all black interior, just ghastly, (though guys don't seem to mind). I totally fell in love with the light leather interior of the EXL. If there was a choice of interiors I would have gone for the Hybrid because of the fuel economy. It was heart over head ;). The EXL drives like a dream and the power steering and turn circle is an improvement on the Honda 19 CRV which we traded in. We looked at the 2023 RAV 4 Toyota but it looks too ugly, kind of like a tank. I wish Honda sold dog car barriers but they don't, so it's trawling the net for a universal one from Amazon.
Are you still liking the ex-L?
Love it. Drives like a dream. The only ‘problem’ was when we realized was the EXL doesn’t have a remote connect button for the garage door (as we had in our last Honda tourer CRV), so we had to get that fitted. We also got 2 usb charging ports put in for the back seat passengers. Small details but worth it,
@@lorrainecolerealestate9138 So unlike the hybrid CRV the standard engine EXL does not have USB connections in the back? Strange….But Honda is very weird when it comes to trim levels and what you would think should be standard features for the price. How is it the lower priced Sport Hybrid (not the Hybrid Touring) has two rear USB connections yet the $2,000 hi geri price non-hybrid EXL does not?
The Accords having similar quirks, like no read seat vents or rear USB unless you opt for the high priced Touring trim which like the CRV only comes as a hybrid!
I'm with you. I don't like Honda's "sport" interiors.
@@lorrainecolerealestate9138 I just plugged a USB in the trunk 12 v.
My only concern about 1.5T is engine oil consumption problem in previous generations, does Honda fix it? I use a lot of Highway, so, Hybrid or Turbo will be the same in mileage but in power for sure 1.5T is better, so, any Idea please? was this issue fixed in 1.5T ? thanks man
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The Bottomline to this comparison is: Do you spend $4K more to get about an average of 20% (City / Highway) increase in MPGs? For Example... Doing the math on this basis: 10,000 miles driven per year (50/50 split City/Hwy) / 28 MPG (non Hybrid) = 357 gallons of gas X $4 a gallon= $1, 428 of gas consumed per year; 10,000 miles / 34 avg MPG for the Hybrid = 294 gallons of gas @ $4 per gallon= $1,176. That's a difference of $251 dollars annually. With all things being equal (price of gas, average miles driven with a 50/50 combo) it would take you 15 Years to relaize the Savings!! That is not considering the better "ride" and more power from the Hybrid. In my case, I am considering Trading our 2016 CRV Touring with 42K miles on it, for a new Sport Hybrid Touring. That existing CRV has no loan, an estimated $19K in Equity to be used as a Downpayment , maybe add in another $10 K in downpayment funds and take a loan of $10K @4% interest. The useage average is about 6500 miles per ( less now that we are both retired ; only local driving with occassional trips to Children's houses) , with average MPGs of 22 since owning it (City 80% / 20% Hwy) = 295 gallons of gas per year @$4 a gallon = $1,181 gas consumed vs 191 Gallons of gas (for the new Hybrid with same useage) @$4 a gallon= $765 for gas. That equates to $416 a year savings for gas. Economically speaking.... The $416 would pay 1 Month's of new Loan Payments !! Notwithsatnding that we would have Newer car with more amenities / improvements, more Popwer / pep & better MPGs, it seems that it would be much better to either Do Nothing or at a minimum consider a 2021 or 2022 CRV Hybrid. The new Re-design CRV is attractive (looks alittle like a smaller brother Acura 2022 MDX - which I have) .
Mild schizophrenia
Some people buy for the driving experience
I'm curious how the hybrid does in the mountains where turbos do well
Also, long term maintenance would be cheaper in what model?. And most people just don't do city driving. It's a mix.
If the EV mode is used more which is true by the way.. engine works less which means oil Changes should be less frequent
hybrid is 2.0, it doesn't have turbo
That's my point. A turbo is going to do better in the mountains than the hybrid.
I had an 08 RDX with a 2.3L turbo and sh-awd living/driving at 5000-7200 feet. I had to spool the RDX turbo a lot to drive up the mountains for power with mpgs in the teens. Traded for a 19 MDX Sport Hybrid and had more power, improved handling, and my mpgs were similar at 7200 feet and at sea level at mid-upper 20s.
@@mrgold3591 you mean same as RDX?
Why can't I find colorsi I want in CRV ? Not hybrid.
Ben the D,S,L on the shifter is drive, second, low. It’s not a sport mode selector lol. Cars have had this for years!
lol this model is nowhere to be seen down here in australia showrooms, from what i heard there is a 1year purchased order wait...im stuck between this and rav4 hybrid...both also 1year wait :(
Stock arrives in Australia in about 2 weeks
the hybrid sport mode make noise because is in the sound system !!!!! for sporty feeling
It sounds so loud when you press down the pedal on the hybrid. How is the sound compare to other compact hybrid SUV? Like rav4 hybrid, Kia sportage hybrid, etc?
都说crv还是比较安静的
How long do the batteries last for the hybrid?
The Touring has more sound insulation than other trims, the side windows are thicker and there is more insulation material in the engine bay.
The reason for the engine being louder is because there is fake engine sound from the speakers, not sure if that can be turned off.
Wow I had no idea, this wasn't listed in the spec sheet was it? Any idea how much % difference it makes? I just cany justify spending extra money on touring
@@nounta1016 It was either motortrend or car and driver that mentioned it in their review.
I would go test drive the touring vs ex and see what the difference is.
Just take it out of Sport mode, the artificial engine sound is removed. Not sure who buys a Hybrid and then drives in Sport mode.
and, the touring has insulating material on the wheels! (exclusive to hybrid touring)
Come on Ben look underneath the hybrid there is only one exhaust
Not to impressed with the cargo trunk space and wish they had more interior color options as well
I preferred the petrol 1.5L
Which would cost more to fix?
Depends on the issue...
@8:45 Honda CR-V "Men in Tights".
no spare tire in hybrid is a No for me.
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But no spare tyre💕💕💕
Car and Driver mentioned that the hybrid was a bit noisy and slow going up hills. The lack of a spare is a no go for the hybrid. I guess you have it towed to Discount Tire. The fuel economy was not up to the stated EPA readings too. Grateful for a real shifter and not a friggin' dial.
Hills have been fine in Pittsburgh which is mighty hilly. Lack of space can be fixed with the on-board flat tire kit or a cheap AAA membership. We have outperformed the EPA readings in our day to driving and have seen a bunch of other tests on YT showing the same
Hi did they fix oil dilution problem on 1.5 T.
Yes. But I recommend avoiding excessive idle time, revenge the engine out when it's cold, and extended oil changes. Do an oil change every 5k with pennzoil ultra platinum and you'll be absolutely fine. People experiencing oil dilution problems in 2022+ do not know how to care for their vehicle
Don't forget you have to pay $200 more a year for hybrid cuz your not using gas.
Slow down! You talk way too fast, particularly at the beginning.
Putting 19s on a hybrid is ridiculous.
Exactly. Putting 19s on any small/mid CUV/car is ridiculous. Nothing over 17" should be allowed.
Why?
Turbo had plenty power, performance, silence for me. However... the new CRV steering is ABYSMALLY heavy at speed. Like, unusably heavy. Feels great under 20mph. Over it 20 it takes Herculean effort to turn the damn wheel.
i think youre just weak man. i drove one today and it was the lightest steering car ive ever driven...ive driven hundreds of cars btw. go drive a bmw and then try to talk about hondas steering being heavy lol..
Where I live the Honda CR-V is #2 on the most stolen vehicles. We have an insane increase in car theft and I don't get why manufacturers are not doing anything about it. Stop with proxy keys and push to start or invent better security.
Where do you live? Civics and corollas are typically #1 stolen vehicle
@@mikec9077 yes, that's why I said it's #2 on the list. I'm from Toronto and they released the top 10 list.
I live in NYC and my 2022 model was stolen just got it it in September. I Have to go for the 2023 model this time since the 2022 are not in production anymore. the insurance is replacing my stolen vehicle but I’m still worried it might get stolen again I think Honda should offer Honda link tracking in all trims not only on the touring versions. And they should do much better at security on the locking system the push start ignition and fog keys are just to easy for thieves to to hack and steal them. This time I’m putting a better alarm, using a steaming wheel lock and probably looting a lock boot on the tires. And yes a a few gps tracking systems even an Apple air tag.
@@Zura-_-Maru You need an engine immobilizer (kill switch). Basically when installed you have to press a certain button or button combination to start the vehicle. Example, if you have arrow keys or volume control on your steering wheel you have to press a certain sequence like up down back up or wtvr combination you choose to start the car.
@@PimpSolja49 yes I heard about it and I was thinking on putting one I just don’t know a place that you can trust to put a kill switch I’m a bit that I don’t trust many shops here in the city also wouldn’t they find a way to disconnect the kill switch?
See, there's the conundrum.
IS the Hybrid worth the $$ or is it not?
Drove the Non Hybrid, it moved pretty well. Don't know if it's above a Subaru of any type.
Test drove a exl today, doing research on the hybrid the gas engine in 140 hp the 180ish hp electric engine mainly driving the car for a total of 204hp. My problem is when the battery is low say from going up a hill are you only going to have 140 hp
@@mikec9077 Reminds me of the Rav4 AWD system and it not having AWD when the battery is depleted. Thinking I like Subaru better at this point.
No sunroof ? Uhh…
Sunroof?? Both have a sunroof. No pano on either, though.
Where is the spare tire? I tore up a tire before that couldn’t be patched. Never buy a car without a spare tire.
Hybrid doesn't have one. For a lot of people it isn't a neccesity.
Am I the only one bothered with the hybrid not having a spare tire on that SUV?
Most people aren't bothered - no.
so Honda designed the same interior for the civic, accord, CRV, HRV and pilot?? wtf
Cheaper and easier to make the same parts over and over.
@@trentimus5700 sure but it limits the customer options since they all look the same inside. I don’t think it’s a good idea but I guess we’ll see.
unless you own a ton of vehicles the average person won't care. They will care more about saving money and the fact that everything is where they expect it to be@@Dolomite1
Had a 1.5L and swear never again..................
Why?
@@jasonwilliams6005 CRV 2018, Only Honda that I have ever owned and I have had a bunch that had engine problems. Oil light, Loss of Power in critical driving situations, Engine lag and that is only the start. Honda did allow a good trade in on a 2.0l Accord.
@@paulbrown6338 wow...I know a lot who have had great luck with theirs. That's why I asked.
"Pretty good acceleration" lmaooo stop lying man, that thing is slow as life. Anyways I will probably buy one this week for me and my girlfriend for second car! It's a well-priced SUV for what you get out of it. But I don't expect it to be fast by the way, so not complaining. Thanks for great video though!
BEN.... that NOISEY NOISER ? because its a PUMPED IN NOISE.... d....u.... m......a........ss.
Without even watching the video, I could answer that easily. Its the hybrid. Better mpg, more power, better looking wheels, better looking front end. Yea its more expensive but the extra money is well spent.
1.5 eng with a turbo=worn out motor at 100k miles, if you are lucky to get that...
Are these Hondas really worth the price? Cheap plastics everywhere with premium pricing
Interior is nicer quality than a Kia Sportage, Sportage also has numerous power train problems from reviews
If they offered a v6 option from their passport I would seriously consider, otherwise it's just too boring.
RDX has a turbo 4 making as much HP as their V6. It gets terrible fuel economy by comparison but if you’re looking for sporty… RDX is it. But ya my Pilot is faster than the CR-V
@@trentimus5700 You’re right, the new pilot just came out and will probably get around 19 city, 27 highway and it has the refreshed v6.
Both of them is not good. Still keeping my 08 CRV best engine period.
Dude. You talk too fast!
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Please don’t buy the turbo one… it’s such a unreliable motor with oil issues and gaskets blasting and other breakdowns
So it's better to buy a hybrid one?
Reliability wise most likely yes@@louyht7
Yes
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the hybrid one will have more technical problem after several years compare to the gasoline one, that will makes the repair cost more expensive.