AVP: Alien vs Predator Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- (Re-uploaded after copyright take down) Join Gary and Iain for a review and discussion of, AVP: Alien vs. Predator (2004) by Director, Paul W.S. Anderson. Starring, Sanaa Lathan, Lance Henriksen and Raoul Bova.
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This Review is way more interesting to watch than the Movie.
*More time and care put into it too*
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They do a great job, they love certain franchises, so thier praise, or disappointment is genuine
When I first started watching your videos I watched your Halloween reviews first and now every time Gary says "... years ago..." in any review, all I hear is his patronizing and sassy "40 years ago" imitation.
Love your channel guys.
Every time I see the Predator and the girl running together, that old Batman theme music starts going through my head...lol
It does, actually reminds me of the end of the (shudder) Joel Schumacher Batman films!
I watched this in the cinema at launch and could not believe that scene. I also thought for one moment that the lady was going to KISS the predator.
I thought of Baywatch lol
🤣 🤣 🤣
Oh my god 😂.
As a big fan of both Aliens and the Predators, AVP to me is a guilty pleasure, fun, watchable movie. It's a good time waster at best. I'd prefer the first 2 alien movies and the first 2 predator movies as they are both masterpieces in their own way. If we had great, compotent directors like Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Steven Spielberg, James Wan, anyone who can reboot the AVP movie and make it better than the 2004 version, i'd be on board to give them a chance to make it work :)
Agrre
Yeah - the problem with the Predators, looking too beef-cake like at times. Kevin Peter Hall played the original Predator with grace and style. The way he moved, turned and did delicate movements with his hands. Other guys playing Predators just look like rugby players in suits barreling about,
I know this a late response - but I think that's the point. These predators are rookies - the original predator would annihilate all three of these dudes.
Why would you expect the Predators to all have the same build? Do we?
@@michaeldavis2001, every Predator on the big screen not in this film has a taller, leaner build
@@15blackshirt Yeah, because people complained that the predators didn’t have the exact same body type as the ones from Predator and Predator 2 so they changed it back so people would stop complaining.
I always found this a really stupid point of contention for no other reason then you just want every single predator to be a carbon copy of the first one. We have thin muscular human beings and thick muscular human beings, but the predators have to be all one build or you’ll lose your minds.
If you actually want to believe that these creatures are an actual species, then they’re going to have various body types, various colorations, and various facial and body features.
I can remember exactly two characters from AVP:
1) Alien
2) Predator
Yes, I even forgot Weyland was in it.
What about Spud from Trainspotting? Ewen "Moses DVD collection" Bremner! 😕
How long did it take for anyone after seeing Prometheus for the first time to realize that it had almost the exact same set-up as Alien vs Predator? Either people were afraid to tell Ridley Scott or he has literally no idea of its existence.
H.D Beird how
Iirc Ridley Scott has seen it and hates it, but he probably stole a bunch of ideas from it thinking nobody would notice.
Ofc Prometheus was rewritten last minute to try and remove all the Alien prequel elements and make it its own movie, so maybe originally it didnt "borrow" as much from AVP lol
I bought a used copy last year but haven't watched it yet. Lol
Paul Anderson and the PG-13 rating ultimately killed this movie
... *AVP* was a really well done formula flick, quite enjoyable, no apologies necessary.
Paul W. S. Anderson: "I love the Predator franchise"
Also Paul W. S. Anderson: Puts Predators in a frozen wasteland...
I wish they had set it in the future, on an alien planet, and put as much care into the setting as Scott put into building the Nostromo
love all your reviews, great mix of comedy, trivia and great opinions, bout time Britain had an answer to the nostalgia critic and all the other U.S reviewers, please keep up the excellent work
they're British but they review pretty much exclusively American media
In that case you might want to check out a small channel called Shitcase Cinema. The main dude, John, is humorous but he mostly plays it deadpan and has some funny quotes. I recommend his channel.
Bishop and skar are the only characters I truly remember
I like this movie. Granted I'd only give it a 6 out of 10, but I can't bring myself to dislike it. It would have been so much better if there were actually more alien/predator fights, but I'll take what I can get. And it is SO MUCH better than AVPR.
love these long as hell reviews!
That slow motion run still haunts me to this day, it's also the only scene I remember with any clarity.
For the record, a Hunter's Moon is the first full moon after the autumnal equinox. It has nothing to do with size.
Late Response - First Full Moon after the Autumnal Equinox is the Harvest Moon. The Hunter Moon is the one after that. Neither have anything to do with size, but both have shorter periods between sunset and moonrise, providing more light in the evening than is typical.
"Beefcake Predator"... best quote from this review. hahaha.
THE BEEFER
RE: Pointed sticks - don't you remember Hudson bragging during the drop in Aliens that he was the ultimate badass because he had, amongst other things, "guns, knives, sharp sticks..."?
Inasmuch as the Alien Queen completely destroyed the final predator's torso with her tail, how did the predalien chestburster make it? Where was it hiding in the body? His crotch?
I´ve rewatched this recently and I must say, after "The Predator", this movie isn´t nearly as bad as I remembered it. Yes, the writing is weak and most characters are boring and forgettable, however most of the important things are in place, they have tons of practical effects, the core of the conflict had true potential and considering it´s budget, it became a well-rounded film that in itself made sense to some degree. Some scenes are even really memorable e.g. when the Queen gets unfrozen. Here the scene gets enough time to work and to build the appropriate atmosphere.
LOVE HOW YOU READ THE BOOK! I love it! I love machiko naguchi! I have a doll of her and broken tusk!
The only two things I don't like about this movie are the inconsistent times between the impregnation and the birth of the actual Xenomorphs and also the Predator faces, which have the skin between the mandables folding outwards instead of inwards, which just comes off as fake looking masks.
my main problem with this, is that they came to hunt the aliens, but if the research team wasn't there, all they would have had to fight would be face huggers
Well, the queen too 😉
I remember seeing a huge poster for AvP in a cinema foyer and being really excited - and then came the crashing sense of disappointment when I saw the rating and the director's name. Never went to see it, but I caught it on TV years later - I had no expectations and I still had a crashing sense of disappointment.
Gary is surprised that Ripley doesn't recognize Weyland, but she was really just some standard employee at that point. The only thing that ends up making her stand apart from any other person is that she survived an Alien and then also blew up the Nostromo. I don't even know what the founder of the company that I work for looks like, and he's still alive. I'm pretty sure she was just there to get a paycheck and didn't give two shits about upper management.
It's been said that the facehugger gestation depends on the genetics of the person, that's why in Aliens 4 it takes long for the chestburster to come out that guy they find from those colonists
The only reason the "Grid" alien was able to kill 2 of Predators is because they are young and inexperienced. Seasoned Predators wouldn't be so easily bested. Hell, to become a clan leader, a Predator has to clear out an entire Alien hive alone.
Thank you. I have friends who have pointed out how the Aliens win all the fights, but miss the fact that the Predators hunt the Aliens FOR SPORT.
Sure, hunters are killed by lions sometimes, but (sadly) there are a hell of a lot of lion heads gracing some bastards' walls.
Just saying.
I think it is because Ash was built as a spy and did not want people to recognize it.
Yeah, that's also why ash stayed in a hypersleep pod with the rest of the crew.
I just watched the 2 AVP movies and I enjoyed them and was entertained. However you can tell straight away you’re watching a B Movie. Paul W. S. Anderson did Event Horizon which was fucking amazing, but some of his other stuff doesn’t even come close to what he did with Event Horizon. I thought the lead actress in AVP was miscast, and some of the CGi and special effects weren’t that great, I suppose because of the 50 million budget which for a sci-fi themed movie is a low budget. Oh and yeah I was surprised to see it was rated 15 or PG 13 over in the US, a film like this should be 100% 18 or a hard R over in the US. Though like I said I did enjoy my time watching the films, it’s just you can tell that it could’ve been a lot better.
Gary and Ian you Rock
I actually enjoy your review of the movie
than the movie itself
Lance Hendrickson is also the only person that got killed by an alien a predator and a Terminator
Bill Paxton as well?
Lance Hendrickson also was killed by pumpkin head(technically speaking).
Ill tell you what, as a kid 8yrs old tool a bus to get to a theater with my pops grandma and older brother .we were the only on in theaters...me and my brother went absolutely ballistic...Was so cool to me...8yr olds eyes its pure cinema
That slow-mo run towards the camera with the predator and the lady reminds me of Batman Forever. CHEESE FEST
Since when is 50 million a miniscule budget? Adjusted for inflation, Aliens still cost less than that and that movie still looks pretty great.
It only cost 15 million to make Aliens...but it looks like a 150 million dollar film..
31:54 that is a great shot
Really enjoy your reviews, fun to hear fellow alien/predator enthusiasts discuss these movies. Makes me want to sit down with you and join the discussion. 🙂
I'd love to see a universe with Yautja, Xenomorphs, The Klyntar, Reavers and a few others. It'd be fun to watch Predators match wits with other species rather then humans again
I'd love to see an AVP movie based on the original Aliens vs Predator comic.
On a high note, the cartoon alien with part of its tail cut off ( flicking acid around) still looks better than any of the aliens from Covenant
Glad you mentioned prey. When this came out in cinemas my best friend and i went to see it. We also had read all the books. We were calling about every scene and the guy next to us was like its opening day how did you see this movie already to which we replied we hadn't we had just read the book.
I've heard a lot many Predator community dislike AVP trio, well tbh they are my ideal image of Predators, I think their bulky body balancing their big head (with that helmet and dreadlocks). the movie plot is silly (W.Anderson duh) but the Predator trio in this movie change my mind about them, like superhero movie I began cheering them. also I like the Xenomorph's tail artistically resembling a spear.
That slow motion run reminded me of Batman and Robin and when your movie reminds me of that film you know you done messed up
I thought it cost 65 million? I could be wrong though since I heard Paul mentioned it during the commentary but IMDb said it cost 55 million. If that's the truth then I actually want to give Anderson a bit more credit because the sets and cgi looked a lot more expensive than said budget.
The Alien tail in the first Predator kill was over 20 feet ling....Ridiculous idea, the queen doesn't have a tail that long....Hahahaha
Yup, saw that in the cinema and it was ridiculous.
When you get 2 different franchises like Predator(s) and Alien(s) and bring them together, firstly the only reason they're gonna do it is a cash grab, and secondly, it's never gonna be that serious. So in retrospect when you consider the low budget and PG13 rating I think it was alright, it could've been far far worse...It could've been AvP Requiem!!!
I loved both films here
This movie is watchable for the title and also a let down because we didn't get exactly what we wanted.
Honestly as bad as AVP and AVP: Requiem are, ive always been a little disappointed that they didnt give it a third try. Hopefully someday we'll get a reboot or something from a director who knows what theyre doing. The biggest problem with the two AVP movies is the fact that theyre set in modern times and feature mostly civilians; what they need is to give fans what they actually want, which is to set the movie in the future and have the human characters be Colonial Marines, just like in the comics and games. We dont want Ripley-Lites, we dont want weird nods to Weyland-Yutani that dont make any sense, we dont want convoluted plots that contradict both franchisea, and we DEFINITELY dont want mindless child killing and characters like Ricky and Jessie. All we want is a movie thats like the AVP videogames, and i hope someday someone decides to give it to us. As long as that person isnt Ridley Scott, of course, he's gone off his rocker and shouldnt be allowed to further ruin the Alien franchise lol
+HammerMeister1999
I think it would have been a good idea to set an AVP film in the future on a military base on a distant planet.
The military (overseen by a Weyland-Yutani bod or two) are breeding Aliens and are in the process of getting them prepared for off- world shipment when the Predators show up. Chaos ensues, Aliens break out, it's Aliens, Predators and Marines in a free for all!
That's the direction I would have gone personally, but of course Hollywood aren't knocking on my door for ideas lol.
I feel like James Cameron could do it like that well
MY question is, were the Predators aware that there'd be a human scientific expedition there to provide hosts for the facehuggers? 'Cause without them, there's nobody to be implanted to create the Aliens they're supposed to train against. And if the training program (or whatever) only works with a steady supply of humans, why build the temple in the ass-end of nowhere where humans are unlikely to stumble across it? How often would it be used? Not much. Basically, the entire thing hinges on Weyland's expedition going there, which, AFAIK, the Predators would have no way of knowing about until they arrived, meaning they sent these three trainees to a place where they weren't even sure there'd be anything for them to fight. Maybe these three were just being pranked by their buddies and it went horribly wrong because Weyland's expedition provided hosts for the facehuggers.
Maybe they're supposed to procure their own human hosts, and then have to sit around and play cards or build snowmen while they wait for them to get facehugged and chestbursted?
There is exposition in the film to explain this. "The heat bloom was the sign to lure us down here."
I saw AVP opening day.
I believe the movie opened with the hunt 100 years prior.
That was in the extended cut
after watching resident evil movies it's clear Paul Anderson doesn't care about continuity and loves clones
Paul ws Anderson is an underrated director and producer
Event horizon was pretty good, mortal kombat was so so, that's about it for me.
I saw this in the movie theater
@Lebo leigh Leigh
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A lot of people don’t know this but Ewan Bremners character in AVP is a distant relative of spunkmyer.
When I was little, I always fast forward to the fight scenes in these types of movies. So I never really knew the plot besides aliens and predators fighting each other.
The female you're thinking of is Machiko Noguchi
Imagine Sigourney Weaver saying yes to starring in a AvP movie then we would have gotten it sooner and it probably been a lot better as well.
I, personally, would have made that blonde haired woman as the main character.
Darien Bartholomew with better hair style.
I noticed a subtle nod to "Alien" where in the beginning scene where the scientists detected the heat in Antarctica, there was one of those bird perpetual motion things on the table in the background, like from the opening montage of the Nostromo in Alien.
Realistically 3 Predators vs the Aliens the 3 Predators should win because they're so high-tech equipped and they should be much smarter than the Aliens. They try to weaken the predators in the film on purpose by removing the shoulder canon but even without that the Predators should be stronger in pure strength the Predators go down too easily in this film which is because the director liked the Alien series more. There's no way that second predator would have slowly walked to the Alien in the net before stabbing it and just let it break out and kill him like that. He would have known it had acid blood and killed it fast before it broke free.
It’s a trend at this point to kill off the predators, if you look at all the films involving them, they always die.
I still don’t know how y’all hadn’t cracked 100k subs yet?!?!? I been watching ur content at least the last 3 years and quite frankly I love it because it seems perfectly In line with many a convo that happened between myself & a great fried
ofcourse Weaver wouldn't do Aliens vs Predator.. she hates guns, which is why Alien 3 has no guns in it... and the guys who did the special effects for Aliens, Alien 3 and Ressurection are back for these films too.. Amalgamated Dynamics...
KissingZombie's Channel She says that, yet she plays characters that use guns fairly frequently.
They should have hire someone else to take the role as ripley
Finally AVP I never had the chance to watch this review! :D
It's like Christmas you guys dropped 3 videos outta nowhere
yep made my day !
These vids were uploaded a few months back, but were removed because of a copyright strike.
Im a 29 year old man wen avp came out i was 15 it was the first alien or predator movie i sawl in the theater. I sawl alien aliens ect ect and i liked them but seeing the grid vs Celtic fight blasting in the cinema made me a fan if everything aliens and predators. Just like when i sawl star wars episode one in the cinema made me a fan of star wars ya i sawl episode 4 5 6 on vhs but i was a lil kid and never liked it too much but the prequels made me fans and now episode 5 is my favorite star wars movie. I forgot why i started typing point is im glad avp was pg 13 and on the dvd its that campy "unrated addition" was a product of the time... Just glad it was PG-13
I know it's an old review but I really love celtics design shows that there is a variety of different builds of predators, celtic being this massive one off brute is brilliant, just sucks he died
The "egg-laying thing" is called an ovipositor.
Alien vs. Predator: Sounds like a Hollyweird board meeting at "Collossal Studio." (A mere 14 years in Development Hell.)
got a new keyboard i love your guys vids ur like the british jay and silent bob of movie reviews
Hey guys found your Chanel recently and been watching all your vids x loved your the mist video x keep up the good work xx
AvP is aggressively mediocre. I don’t mind it because it doesn’t utterly wreck the timeline of either franchise, unlike Prometheus/covenant and The Predator(2018)
😂 aggressively mediocre 😂 that’s good 😂I’m using that one!
Technically Tyrell from blade runner could be used as an excuse for different androids
Seriously: did anyone expect this to be a good movie?!??
See if I had wrote this story I wouldn't have the queen laying eggs to begin with would of had eggs frozen then after the one alien kills the 2 predators it changes to a pretorian
Very disappointed watching this in theatres but at home it's become a guilty pleasure. Replay value is very good. Great stuff guys!!
Lebo leigh Leigh of course I did (no regrets) as I waited 20 years to go back into the theatres to watch a Predator movie (good or bad) 👍🏾
I have to admit, this was my first intro into alien and predator. Now I’ve corrected that mistake
Ian and Gary if you like Lance Hendrickson go watch Millenenime
I'll say this you guys do reasearch in your reviews !
Predators are like Boba Fett in that, while cool, get punked a lot.
I'd like a movie where a Predator doesn't die or go out in a lame way and instead walk away a winner.
Also, why would the Predators be so stupid not to check a dead body for face-hugger shenanigans after sending them to fight them and the Aliens 🤔😖.
This movie is better than prometheus or covenant. At least here the food with legs acts like food with legs, not like stupid food with legs.
Nope
This movie receives more hate than it deserves
Yes to
Lance Henriksen
Gary: Predator
Ian: Predaerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Paul W.S. Anderson directed the first Mortal Kombat, a legitimately bad movie thats really fun to watch. It's quite possibly the best movie to sum up the 90's up until that point and perhaps owes is success to that- Mortal Kombat would never have succeeded as much had that same movie been released in the 00's. The very next movie he directed was Event Horizon which again, succeeded because it was such a 90's film. Although Event Horizon was just as fantastic at it's best moments as it was bad at it's worst. Perfect Balance.
I honestly thought this dude would have a few more good movies in his future but, since 1998's Event Horizon, nope. It's clear that he hit his peak with his second 'successful' movie and will probably never again work on a movie up to that quality- and Event Horizon isn't exactly a masterpiece lol. I'm pretty sure he's worked on EVERY shitty resident evil movie, the death race movies, that awful DOA movie and this disaster of a movie... I mean it's AVP how could you go so wrong when theres so much material doing AVP right all around you!?! Why do people keep giving this dude money and established IPs to work with? Even at his best he isn't making nearly as much box office profit as a straight up decent film would... He's magnum opus was Mortal Kombat: The Movie... I just don't understand how this dude and Uwe Boll are trusted with any pre-existing franchises.
I left the theater when the Predator and the girl join forces.
WoodBlock707 I guess you haven't read any of the comics then? Predators teaming up with humans is a fairly common event in the comics.
the scale - size of the
XENOMORPH QUEEN
can be explained by the fact
WE as the AUDIENCE
haven't seen a
XENOMORPH QUEEN
after she's been alive for
DECADES or CENTURIES
the previous ALIEN movies only
showed recently born
XENOMORPH QUEENS
that haven't been alive very long
for all we know the
XENOMORPH QUEEN
could easily live long enough to
become very large
INCLUDING
becoming the size
of a 2 or 3 story house
It's a 6-7 out of 10 it's a decent film I would reccomend it, it's good nothing more nothing less just my opinion :)
I watch the alien and predator scenes only with this movie
He's not Spanish, he's Italian Jeje
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GARY & IAIN'S thoughts
Hey guys, your fan from Spanish Harlem in NYC. I know this is a old video, but I'll drop a comment anyway.
My opinion in regarding the size of the Predator is that remember how in Predator they were going to have JCVD be the Predator, but with the size of Arnold and his team, they needed a creature that size wise you could believe that the Predator could destroy it's enemy. In comparison with this most of the cast is average height, so having them "beefy" could sell the Predator's strength. Again it's just my opinion.
I hated the fight scene because it was just like wrestling. I wanted more weapon usage against the Aliens. For me that was something they did better in Requiem.
Yeah it's annoying that they were never consistent in saying how long it takes the chestburster gestates in the host.
I know, us fans wanted these movies to blow our socks away, but we always get teased.
Compare this to the sequel, this one is far better and that says alot lol
AvP 2004
is basically
CRITTERS
I actually LOVED AVP 1. The first two PC games were amazing.
And I will NEVER apologize for it! 😉🖕
There's NO REASON to assume that The Predator wasn't aware that he'd been impregnated. He doesn't express a lack of memory, does he.
Samal Latham (whatever) cowers in fear in the corner and grabs the spear out of desperation. The Alien impales HIMSELF on it.
Slow motion is a thing. It doesn't belong to Sylvester Stallone (!??).
I hope you do another few of the terminator films. Also films like gladiator
Loved this film...you guys are reading way to much into it..
I wouldn’t call my self a alien fan or predator fan I’m a United States colonial marine fan
The xenomorphs gradually get weaker as they go on. They’re basically just dinosaurs in this film, not the unstoppable wall that was the big chap. Predator vs big chap would probably go a lot differently
It’s a shit film no doubt, but it’s fun. Don’t think anyone going in to watch Alien vs Predator was expecting Citizen Kane or Schindlers List. Once aa franchise has been milked for all it’s worth, it becomes pretty impossible to salvage any high regard it may have once had.