Top 10 Best Value Classic Ducatis To Buy Now
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- In this video our friend Anthony Godin tells us his favourite classic Ducatis that he feels are under rated and best value in today's classic motorcycle market.
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999 and 749 are both super classy and the hate is entirely unwarranted
True any Ducati is amazing but nothing can beat the 916
Had a SD Darmah 900 (new) when I lived in Scotland. More fun than anything I've ridden since. Can tell a Duke by its sound from way off: Unique!
750SS ie is a brilliant bike. Much more comfy and reliable than the race reps. I also had a 1000SS DS and prefer my 750.
I've got the nuda in red with gold frame and wheels, it's pure class. Never selling it. I put 800 headers on it and Remus carbon cans. Totally reliable and sounds amazing. It's a blast to ride.
Had the pleasure seeing Mike the bike racing his Duke in the Castrol 6 hr production race in Australia
I own a mint 851 and I think they are great value for money when you think about the significance of what they are. First fuel injected Ducati, first water cooled Ducati, first 4 valve per cylinder Ducati and the beginning of the Ducati Superbike domination era.
Big $ if you can find one
La 851 Superbike / 1991 ( avec fourche Showa inversée) a été la moto que j'ai possédée dont je garde le meilleur souvenir.
Bonne sur la route, sur l'autoroute, bonne sur route de montagne (hte Savoie) et bonne sur circuit.. moto très polyvalente, qui une fois l'habitude prise (10 Mkm) était une moto géniale.
Ma 748 était moins polyvalente mais bestiale sur circuit, un pousse au crime 🤣.
Mon 750 paso était une bonne routière pour rouler tranquille, l'attaque avec ses roues en 16" était moins agréable, peut être à cause de la fourche conventionnelle car elle avait un gros freinage style Monster 900....mais son moteur était bien aussi.
@@tadstertrolley7770 can you tell for how much one goes for today?
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I think it was the first fuel injected superbike ever made
I have to agree about the 600s they are a very under rated machine. I had 900 & 800i Monsters and the 620 is a ripper! Like riding a little Superbike with it's 10,000 rpm redline too! Rode a 999 once and what a magnificent engine! First Ducati I actually rode was an associate's 851 Superbike back in the 90's and the faster you went the better it got! (compared to my CBR600 1995) As with ANY bike it's how YOU feel when you're riding it that counts the most.
I have the 748 and agree with you 100 percent
Nice video! Thanks!
Very good!! thanks
I recently bought a very good condition 2002 Supersport Sport 750 with 10k on the clock for £2,200. Can't wait to ride the beast!
Brilliant video thanks
Interesting as ever...thanks...
I have a 2006 Monster 620ie and went for this over a 600 on account it came with twin front discs, 6 spd box and fuel injection. Mine had 22,000Km on the clock when bought, Termis and was in virtually mint condition. The price, $5k. A bargain in my mind and the original Monster looks are classic for sure in my eye. Mine is insured for $7k and still has less than 23,000km on the clock. To the list of value for money classic Ducs, I would suggest you could add the Sport Classic 1000, barring many have suggested they are uncomfortable to ride. However, there is a fix for this and they offer so much classic Ducati style but with more modern engineering. They are starting to rise in price, so get onto one soon if you can afford one.
I ended up with an 860GT after coming close to buying a Darmah. It's a nice ride.
I have a minter 2001 900 super sport! Ducati is artwork!
I had an 860GT Ducati and it was great. It was not desmodromic which made maintenance much easier. I did the bike in black on black which hid the horrible lines and I painted the tank badges in black and gold which made them pop. I fitted the bike with lower superbike type bars. It was a fun bike to ride but not a road burner by any means. I even did a track day on it with no problems at all except for the wooden brakes.
Surprised the 851 isn’t included. I have a 1990 851 and think it’s a beautiful machine and set the design standard for the 1990’s super bike dominance. I’m also fortunate to have a 2000 748 with and 872 build from Bruce Myers.
Love it....inflating prices. Used bike market has gone mad.
Great list! Whats your opinion on an Hypermotard 1100s? Future classic?
I always loved the 916, but when I was ready to purchase one the prices were already on the rise. I purchased a 996 for just the reasons you mention. My 996 monoposto will be in my garage for a long time.
Just wondering, how much was the asking price for the 916 back then and now? Thanks
@@chrisperry9002 to answer the value question, yes clean, original 916’s (not overly modified, track bikes, high miles, etc.) are now mid teens to 20s. The days of $3,000-$4000 are long over.
I just bought a 998s final edition. From December 2003. With around 1000 miles on it. Was kept in a garage for 15 years. Needed a bit of restoration. Was quite expensive. But its looking great now. I had a 916 sp when I was a young man and had to sell it when I got divorced. Always regretted selling it. The 998s fe is in an extension to my house on a carpet on a charger and will be kept to have for the rest of my life. I’m looking for a good condition yellow 748r next year. Thanks for the video good watch.
You staying single then ?!.....LOL
@@nicksmith7552 Why risk loosing another Ducati....
Hi, I have a pristine 748 R in yellow with under 1000 miles from new. Was in a collection and I am only the second owner. Fully serviced with new belts etc this year. I’m selling but needs to be a good home. Let me know if it’s of interest.
I had a 1991 900ss !! Loved that bike !!! Found a 2001 st2 and I traded it in, " WITH 196,000 miles on it!!😀😀🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺 sold the st2 to get my multistrada and it has 205,000 on it!!! 😀😀🏍🏍🍺🍺
My 1994 916 sp1 was a good buy for £7000 10 years ago, should be in the 20k range now.
Just wanted to mention and ask your perspective on the 1989/90 900 supersport? I've owned a pretty mint one (of 1971 made thereabouts) for 18 years and think they're very appealing to the older enthusiasts now.
What about 2005 Ducati 1000 ie ds , I have one of these fabulous machines
Nice list and I agree with your selections. I bought and still own a 1978 Darmah that's like new, which were red in color that year. I bought it the same weekend Mike the Bike won the Isle of Man TT. I'll never sell it.... I've also owned(original owner) a 996S, 999S, 2012 Streetfighter S, and of course an MH900e Evoluzione.
Nice little portfolio of Ducatis my friend....
Not sure about a 600 Monster but with you on 999. I would say the 2005 model revision is the one to get that features the R swingarm and some cosmetic changes that improve the looks. I own a Monster S4RS so I’m picking they will be quite valuable in time as not a lot of them made. As MHR alternative how about an S2 Mille
My MH900e is also a very good investment by the way, and always a smile on my face while riding or looking at my bike👍😀
Let’s go further back and a smaller machine. The 250cc Desmo with a race cam quick enough for the road.
@Alfred Wedmore I don’t like the 350cc desmo much prefer the 250. I was also quicker on the 250 round Brands Hatch when I raced them. The best 350cc was without doubt an Aeromacchi the Ducati 350cc could not get anywhere near it on the track. I would not have liked a race tuned one on the road far to quick.
My 996 Biposto was a cracking bike, Superlight, 888 Also, 907ie (different) Cagiva elefant (Ducati engined) one to look out for too👌🏻😎
I had a SD Damah back in the 80s $2500 paid. magic bike my mate still has SSD 900 pretty rare
Hi Anthony , a few points which may help , if you've thought about a Darmah early red and white ones had a kick starter as well as the electric boot and 32mm carbs which made no difference to performance as apposed to the 40mm fitted to the black and gold models which still had 32mm inlets , the early 750ss you mentioned is in fact a 750 sport , the problem is they run 16" wheels front and rear The problem is finding rear tires I think Avon does one but the profile is very high , the 999 and 749 are great bikes with the added advantage of a conventional swingarm which means easy wheel removal , you won't need a huge socket set and a torque wrench that goes over 200nm , hope this may help ; )
Actually the tyres are in production via Shinko/ Golden tyre standard sizes and are actually pretty good - Pasos run the same size
Paso 750: One of the nicest, but the most underrated Ducati.
Ugliest
Nice 👍
I had a 72 860 with a stroked motor. Took me all over OZ without a drama. Plenty fast enough & comfortable.
Nice call on the late '80s to early 90's 750 Sport. Although you call it a 750 SS - it's known as the Sport over here in the US. I have one and they are quite rare. The 89-90 750 Sport is probably the most underrated Ducatis of all time. And you are correct - the parts are out there.
+1 on that 750S. I was looking for this comment. Having one myself, it gets looks at the dealership even by the classics crowd.
Great list. (maybe not the ugly duckling 860GT but that is personal preference).
A couple of thoughts.
1. Eventually the 999 will be "rediscovered" as a great Ducati. Of all my Ducatis it remains my favorite to ride to this day. In the US, very cheap at the moment. 749 even more so. A 2005-06 999S would be my pick if I ever upgraded (I have a standard 03 999). FWIW when people discount Ducati's numerous SBK championships due to the displacement advantage of twins I like to point out the 999, which beat the liter fours on equal footing three years (03, 04, 06). The only Ducati to do it so far.
2. totally agree with the MH 1000 Mille. That it is the cheapest (still ~$20k in US and climbing) of the Mike Hailwood Reps makes it sweeter still. The one I personally would want and on the short list for the next bike for me personally.
3. No 907 i.e. on the list? Sport-tourer Ducatis are a bit like four-seat Ferraris, few appreciate them and values reflect that. In the US the 907 is very inexpensive. Looks are not to everyone's taste, I personally think it looks great and with 17" wheels and fuel injection means it could be easier to live with for the collector who actually rides. It takes balls to design a bike with a solid red "windshield", and nothing says 80's like a NACA duct. Tamburini called the Paso one of the favorite bikes he designed. Another one on the short list for me personally.
4. ST4s. Another sport-tourer so values are low. Without the bags it is basically a 996 with more a comfortable riding position and less attractive looks. But also as fast as a 996 in almost all conditions. Maybe as middle-aged riders start to buy the bike brands they wanted in younger days the sport-tourers will see increased desirability.
It’s a young classic, but it’s a VERY special bike, the 2010/2011 Ducati Hypermotard 1100s. What are your thoughts on this?
I don't know about performance or any of that, but I LOVED the 750 Paso. Second to the all white VF 750F, both are gorgeous.
Do you think the Aprilia RSV will become a future classic? They are incredible value for money.
I owned a Rsv Edwards.. now they are unobtainable
Yes my gen 1 rsv Mille r shares the garage with my 750F1 . The rsvr are going up in value especially since 44teeth started frothing over them.
I know it's no Ducati, but being Italian bike too, really love and enjoy the feeling of my (only £2500) 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille.
I love what you are doing. I love seeing these bikes. Personally I've always owned new bikes. Im leary about used bikes only because I go balls to the wall full tilt. Knowing my life is at risk keeps me having the newest best machinery. I know I don't have to do that and that said I've just never head the pleasure of one of these. I should try it but there again... you cant just show up and "try" any of these so its moot for me.
DO you have a view on the BMW R1200S? 2006-2009. Reportedly
Pleased to see the only two Ducati's I owned on this list - an SS Darmah (well, strictly speaking, not on the list) and a 750 Sport which was the last bike I owned before moving to the US. I take my hat off to anyone who rides a bike on the streets in the US.
I have a 1998 916 sps homolgomate model that has the 996cc motor. My research on the Vin came back that Ducati only sold 100 of these in the U.S. in 1998. Can you confirm or deny this, and if true is it worth anything? It is in prestine condition. Thanks.
Wow great video thanks for making it. I wonder what you make of the ST4S, would you buy one today???
Perhaps I would also add the Paso 750, not everyone likes it but it is special...
I have the fuel injected 900 ss and is a great bike but if you want comfort look else where
Hey I am currently doing my drivers licence and I would love a Ducati as my first bike. I want to get an old but still fuel injected monster. maintenance wouldn't be a problem, im quite handy myself. the power will be decreased to 45hp horsepower because of German law regulations. is a monster well suited in my case or should I rather get a Japanese bike as a starter. if a monster is suited, which engine size do you guys suggest?
Thanks for answers
best regards
I knew someone that had TONS of issues with the 999... I remember a picture he showed me... Of repair receipts... Over 9 with him flipping the receipts off.
I’m having my dream engine built at the moment a 750 GT round case with plane bigend upgrade bigger pump and different rods with an 900 Darmer barrels and desmo heads. Also two alternators as I’m going to look at speeddweno fuel injection and the standard charging system is not up to it. Grr Taglioni Italian attitude don’t worry about charging the battery just make it look good. So classic looks and sound with modern reliability and go. Wobbels the mad Aussie.
Cagiva Alazzurra. The odd one out, but still a lovely little bike.
I have a 1990 Ducati 750 Sport, NEVER CRASHED, sitting in my basement in Sardinia. Any feel for what the value of the bike is? I am the second owner; I bought her used in 1995 from someone in NJ (USA) and shipped to Italy when I moved there.
Paso 750 is the pick for value for money. It was the best “all round” Ducati made up to that point.
I agree. Love my '87 750 in blue. it has been reliable and fun to ride.
For an 'older' Ducati you can't beat the value of the Paso. Only gremlin these days is finding good 16" tyres.
@@ducatimale I've been using Shinko SR880 and SR881's with great results and they're easy to get here in the USA.
@@ducatimale And its a big one!
@@micksterboone4517 Cheers, mate! I'll have a look out for them then. Using the last batch of Michelins now. Think they're from 2002...
I like the late 90’s, early 2000 air cooled Supersport line. I had two Supersports from that era. Very satisfying bikes. I also owned a 2006, 999. It was an incredibly easy bike to ride except for the heat given off the engine. That was its fatal flaw. Nearly unrideable because of the heat emanating from that motor. I also own one of those 2006 Paul Smarts. I absolutely hated that bike. Such a betrayal! It never felt like the front wheel, and the back wheel were “talking” to each other. I got rid of that one quickly. If I had it today. I would have doubled my money. But that’s not what a Ducati is for. A Ducati is for riding it!
Anybody have an idea what an 85 ducati alazzurra 650 is worth these days? 18,000miles. Great orig paint. Needs cpl minor things.
1997 900ss cr. mint working order , what do you think its worth . in dollars
#7, the 996: Did they ever fix the flaking issue in the engine? I had mine fixed but it returned at the same mileage on my dime.
La 750F1 ❤️
I should have kept my 996, 998 and 999. I currently have a 2008 D16RR, 2021 Multistrada V4S and a 2019 Desert Sled. We are moving back to FL from Germany and the first 2 bikes are coming. I have to get a 996, 998 or 999, I miss them all. I'm just getting one.
Base model 996, 999 are great value for money - cracking performance for few grand
Great value from the ST3S. The three-valve model is the best of the ST series, comes with touring fairing and panniers, ABS etc. and you can get a beauty for less than £2,500.
but quite rare?
@@richardjohnson3463 Very. I have been looking for several years, having had three ST4S's.
@@vicomtedelomagne I owned a ST2 for about 5 years in the early noughties. Lovely 'bike. I don't think I've ever seen an ST3. Always fancied one, terrific value at that price now...
@@richardjohnson3463 I had a parallel import ST2 in 1997. I kept it for 3 years and exchanged it for my first ST4S. I bought a Triumph ST 1050 Sprint 3 years ago to do the same job, but you cannot compare the triple to the testastretta engine.
I have a 2000 ST2. Best of em. Easy valve adjustment as well as everything else. Not racing do not need the extra power of the 3 or 4. Has remis exhaust performance chip Dyno tuned. Pulls a plenty with full panniers & girlfriend on the back. 14 tooth front sprocket 42 tooth rear.
Local Ducati dealer wants $2,100 USD to do annual service & valves.
I would rather have what I have than a 3 or 4 valve. Not saying any are bad. All good. Simply that the 2 valve does everything you need when tuned right. With simpler components, less to go wrong, easier to do valve adjustments.
Though the airbox is a pita, if you ever need to remove it, to get installed. Fortunately not necessary to do valves or most anything else.
I have a 2018 Ducati multistrada pikes peak. Do you think these will ever be collected
I'm not an expert, but I have worked in the moto industry for a couple years. I think the PPMS is a future collectible. It has pedigree and history tied to it, especially after the tragic passing of Carin Dunne. I see parallels between it and many of the Paris-Dakkar classics that are seeing rises in value like the Africa Twin, Elefant, and R80G/S. Add on top of that it just being a damn good bike... The only thing going against it that I see is they keep making them, so they're not on track to be rare.
I have an 88 750s with 7000kms on the clock. Don't know if that model is worth anything though.
999 wasnt the first with the Testrasetta (sorry for spelling). 998?
How about a special edition 907ie in jet black? Very rare. I know. I have one of 90 imported to North America. 110 total production. Fuel injected 904 it’s like a big block Chevy in 69 Camaro and it’s not for sale.
I have a 2007 1098 and will never sell it. It goes to my son.
749/999 FTW!
Ds 1000 ss is a superb bike
Hypermotard 1100 S / Evo ?
Good advertisement! I hope you will sell all your bikes!
The 999 was the last Terblanc!
How is the 600 monster only 53hp and the Ducati 1994 750ss is only 66hp.
This must be for the UK, in Australia any Bevel is well into the 20k range,,inc 860s ,darmahs, gt,s the cheapest ss you will get is 45k plus that's for a average 82,a s2 can be had for 25 to 30 and any MHR is 50 plus even 999,s are approaching 17 plus a 748 can be had for about 10 ,, 996s are 20 plus classic monsters though are still good value ,an average 900 is about 6k still
I have a 750 SS from 94. I fully restored the bike in 2006.
In 2018 I put a 900 Engine inside. It's in A1 shape. With Bos Mufflers it sounds and runs perfect.
I think it's the ugliest Ducati. Not to compare to the 916.
But the bike is very stable is easy to repair.
Now i want to give it away because I have too many bikes and need some space in my garage.
Two more affordable models to the list: Hypermotard 1100S and Multistrada 1000S/1100S.
The big bore Desmodue is the perfect engine for road riding. Unfortunately Air Cooled engines are being fazed out. Even Guzzi is going Liquid-cooled :(
The Hypermotard design has become a classic and the first gen Multi look has aged well. Especially compared to the new crop of beaked "adventure" bikes....
Price wise they reached rock bottom. I can only see them appreciating in value since many are worth more in parts than in running order.
I like side view of 999.
What are your thoughts on the Ducati Paso? I loved the styling when they came out and think they still turn heads today. I believe there were only about 8500 built across the whole range (750, 906 and 907). Not sure how many have survived as you dont often see them. I've been contemplating buying one. They seem to go for reasonable money when they do come up for sale.
La 750 paso était ma première ducat', c'était une bonne moto avec ses gros radiateurs d'huile. La fourche marzzochi conventionnelle est un peu perfectible, surtout avec un gros freinage 2x4 pistons et pour moi, les roues en 16" ont été une erreur de conception , vu la qualité de la partie cycle / moteur.
@@sgtmiklin I've found a 907ie which fixed many of the earlier issues with the Paso
@@LS1Cobraje n'ai jamais roulé en 907ie, les choix techniques sont intéressants sur cette machine
Im suprised no mention of the ST series..
I can't believe he recommends a 600 Monster... S2R1000 and Hypermotard 1100 Evo SP are great value
1996 900ss is the best looking bike ever.
None of this applies to Australia ... All 90s belt 2v Ducati's have suddenly doubled in price .Even an average 900ss is 11k plus.
999 wasn’t the beginning of the Testastretta engine, that came in some 998 models…
Ducatis...like a beautiful girlfriend. Gorgeous to look at and ride, but oh so high maintenance.
I had a 996 bip in yellow and regretted selling it- recently bought a ‘96 748 bip in red- remember though guys & girls- no such thing as a cheap Ducati- I’ve poured thousands into it to make it a good bike despite it having a good service history. All 8 opening rockers had 💩 themselves and I found a plethora of other problems along the way.
Les linguets étaient un problème récurrent sur ces machines, certainement dû à un traitement du chrome moins bon 🤦♂️
Good investment IF you can find one, Panigale 1299s. My 2017, last year, is worth more now then I paid for it in December 2018. I have constant offers but will not ever sell it. 30,000 reliable fun miles. My every day transportation.
❤996SPS
916 sp is the bike to have
907ie?
906 Paso ?
I would take a Pantah 500 over an 860gt any time! And what about the F1? The 750 sport from that era is simply a paso with less bodywork.
Testastrarta??
Spaghetti spagharta.
The Suzuki SV650 is the best Ducati value on the market. 🤣
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Nice to see a chubbier version of David Olusoga into 2 wheelers
I'm not as optimistic. If the average age of bikers is climbing steeply who will buy these investments off us?
I've no sympathy for people who buy motorcycles purely "as an investment." I hope they do their dough.
Grab a 1098 and throw a cover over it 👍
Lol that's my thinking too just bought one 😅
998?
testastretta begin with 998
And you missed the 1951 ducati cruiser lol
Just bought a mint 4000 mile 2006 999 for £5600. What a lot of bike for that money! Rude not to... 😏
James Pink , they are relatively cheap, because they are ugly. Shouldn't be too tough to figure that out.
@@captainamerica9353 Reccomend a good opticians. Lost count of the number of people saying how gorgeous she looks. Still, each to his own...
@@jamespink4202 , well, they couldn't keep the 916 styling forever, I guess, but maybe Frenchmen shouldn't design bikes. Glad you like yours, though. Peace.
888 good value??!?!?!