Things Aren’t Looking Good for Chet Holmgren
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Chet Holmgren took a surprisingly big lead in Rookie of the Year odds but Victor Webmanyama has taken it back. There was a major change for Wemby in early December that made the difference and this is a look at whether Chet can make a comeback. - กีฬา
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Hey @AMHoops don't make a video about Luka looking bad with the reporter and not make a video on his game scoring 4th most all time on the best efficiency of any game over 70
(I'm pretty sure it's the most efficient 60+)I'm actually not sure why the narrative is the most efficient 70+ and not the most efficient 60+)the media biases has been pretty disgusting)
Maybe ur making it right now if not it would be nice to say the good of Luka too
How old is this video.. as of me typing this. Chet is averageing 13.5 pts per game for his last 10 games. In the same period Wemby is averaging over 25 for 10 games. Stale information.
Silly little clickbait clown
"Things Aren't Looking Good For Chet"
Casey,
Do you REALLY think that Chet's Universe revolves around the ROY race?
If so, WAKE UP.
Chet's got Bigger Fish to Fry :)
And as far as the "Chet Plays on a Better Team" argument in support of Wemby, how about this...
Chet helped MAKE his team better. And Wemby, despite his undeniable talent, HASN'T (so far).
It's insane how 2 rookies are averaging over 2.5 blocks a game.
Yea but not really when theyre both 7 feet+
Chet’s 7’1
He’s not averaging over 3 tho lol
@@subifyouhatetiktokers9210 I mean yeah but still, only the most defensive players in the league can average 3 blocks a game and these two are doing it as rookies
@@gabrielesparza2952oh. 2.6 is still insane for a rookie
Wemby with the 180 No Look blocks is wild
That was insane.
that was some ultra instinct shit right there
Like the Kawhi no-look steal
All that for 10 wins 😂
@@RMCOVERS.casual
You don’t need clickbait titles dude, we’re watching either way
100%
He always has those in they end up being cap 🧢
yeah, I thought Chet got injured or something bad happened to him, but well, video was good either way
just dislike the video
Title might not be spot on in terms of relevancy, but it is still relevant and accurate, so I wouldn't call it clickbait.
Wemby even better than advertised. The amount of times this guy does something I've never seen before.
That's what makes a generational talent, everytime you think you've seen it all they do something else
The 180 no look blocks are wild
@@tmzz3609he’s done that a lot of times it’s crazy how agile he is. He also lengthy as hell that he blocked someone by covering both sides of the rim.
@@tmzz3609bro hit a SHAMGOD at 7’4 like what????
@@Baddknewzit was clean as hell too
I love that ben simmons will forever be catching strays
Why be right when you can be wrong😂. You get attention either way😂
Ben is back and almost got a triple double! He is hunting for his 6th ROTY.
@@jirodearmas6857 nahhh thats crazy
been lookin' for this comment lol
Wemby and Chetster are going to dominate the NBA within the next few years.
Sochan was never going to be turned into a PG, it was just to improve his game by forcing him to do the things he's never had to. I know Wemby is our number 1 pick with generational talent but he can't win alone. People seem to forget Sochan is younger than Chet, he didn't play a full season last year and he's already improved so much while always being asked to guard the other teams best player no matter their size or position. IMO the "experiment" worked as you can see the team improving. Wemby still gets winded not being used to the fast paced NBA game (especially the spurs) so he has to sit and it's in those minutes we lost games.. but lately you can see the improvement in pieces like Sochan who took over games when Wemby rested. Pop isn't worried about adding a championship to his hall of fame career, he's busy making sure the young players be the best versions of themselves so they can win even when he's no longer coaching.
Sochan is the best fit with Wemby's game out of any of the spurs' field in my opinion. It adds a level of bully ball under the basket and he's been the most evenly distributed between taking shots and passing to Wemby, meaning he's making defenders think.
It's called tanking
@@Orverge wemby, sochan and vassell all at their peak potential is an insane lineup no matter who the role players eventually will be. IMO the young trio have more in common with the Rasheed Wallace pistons than they do with the old spurs. Devin potentially can be a rip Hamilton, sochan is prince and wemby is Rasheed but all with evolved versions offensively to match today's game.
@@amb4368 a team actually being coached and improving isn't tanking. They're just really young. If you watch the games they're trying to win.. they just make mistakes like not rotating in time on defense or getting the right shot but over the season it's being getting better.
@@Gregor_Von_DOOM they improved when they stopped the "experiment" (tanking)
I love the mentality Wemby has. Him and Chet are the future for sure
Built like twigs. Short future.
I've been using my wife's face soap to wash my ass for months. I swear to god this was an accident. My wife bought a bar of soap that looked somewhat nice about a year ago. It stayed in our shower from months and never seemed to be getting smaller.
About 6 months ago my soap bar ran out and I decided to use her fancy bar. It never seemed to get smaller so I figured it was just there a show soap or something. To be looked at but never touched. I decided that that bar of soap was now my ball sack and ass cleaner. For months I used this poor bar to clean the sweat and grime off my unspeakables. I was happy.
But it all came crashing down today. I was brushing my teeth and I saw that same soap bar being lathered all over my wife's face. I felt like vomiting but had to hide it fast. I gave her a lame thumbs up and smiled. She probably thought I was a dumbass.
Anyways I will take this to my grave because my wife would murder me if she ever found out. Hopefully it stays that way.
@@emjay9733 ah, of course it's someone named "MJ" ruining any ounce of appreciation, investment, or greatness in modern NBA
@@emjay9733 Did you see Giannis when he started playing? A little bigger than these two, but he had nothing like the build he has now. I don't know about Chet's drive, but Wemby has genuine passion to be the best. If bulking up a little or a lot is in his best interest, he will (and in the past, he already explored that option - from memory a coach or trainer begged him to reconsider bulking up as it'd put too much strain on his body, or something like that).
Didnt Giannis come from poverty@@jaxsonbateman
I really love all the talent currently in the league but 1 thing I miss in the league that a lot of the young guys are missing is the insane competitive edge that pushed guys to accomplish things well above their skill level. I truly hope Chet and Wemby can bring this back to the league. Guys who say “I don’t care where I am and who’s on my team, I will figure out how to win” that we had in MJ, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk. Really missing that from the game
wemby is a nice mature kid but u d be surprised how mean and competitive he is. he wants that ROY and showed a lot of aggression vs chet. it s great! he doesnt mind the rivalry whatsoever, bet he thrives on it....
@@gf5050I agree I like his edge. Choosing to attack Chet despite Chet being no slouch on defense was great to see. I really hope he has a special career
@@benwelch6554 yep, he s in the right franchise with the right mentor and he has a good maturity and work ethic. if no injury, he should have a stellar career and the spurs will upgraded their roster soon (they have tons of picks to trade and salary cap) and start to win with him, cant wait
what the hell are you talking about? you basically have Giannis and Jokic actually in the league and are the 2 best player, and NOBODY was expecting them to dominate when they came they didn't have the hype of AD or Embiid
@@paquinraino8180lol chill bro. I’m not sure if you read my comment, I mentioned I love this competitive edge guys had back in the day not talent. LOADS of talent in today’s game but I miss that insane competitiveness where guys won with whoever. I thought about mentioning Giannis, I love that he’s still on the bucks and that 2021 finals was special, jokic has insane talent but let’s be real my man that boy treats basketball like a 9-5💀 but regardless those guys aren’t YOUNG GUYS in the league as I mentioned. I’m hoping Chet and Wemby, as rookies, lead a new generation of talent and competitiveness
Glad you made this video. It gives me just one more reason to get stoked for the future of the NBA. Their rivalry will push each other to great heights :)
Magic/Bird for the 2020's
I liked the video, but the title was clickbaity as fuck. Made it sound like he just sustained a serious injury, not that he's facing challenges in ROTY.... 😑
How is it clickbait if your perception is purely based on that opinion? @@nahor88
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2023 rookie class is going to go down as a legendary class. The production we have seen out of Wemby and a lot of other rookies this year is something I don’t think I have ever seen. The amount of talent we have seen from guys relatively late in the draft is insane as well. It’s awesome to see Chet compete with these guys for rookie of the year because this class is undeniably so much greater than last years.
Yall forget the drafts from 07 to 10... Much more talent in those vs today tbh..
2022 was a better draft honestly, more top tier talent, but 2023 will produce a ton of productive role players and starters. Will be interesting to see how these classes turn out 3-4 years from now though.
@@mitchconner2021no
Chet Holmgren is definitely a future NBA star, surely competing for the MVP race in four or five years from now.
But Wemby is just incredible; as a complete rookie, he is already dominating the NBA (just feel how the opponents avoid the paint when he is playing and how they are coming back in it when he is on the bench); we can see that he is also progressing very quickly (last year in some games of french league, when guarded by experimented big guys, he could disappear during a long time; this year it didn't happen; he brings such an energy in every moment).
He still struggle with his midrange shoot but he has taken more than 10 kg since the beginning of the season (his body is currently changing a lot). He explained during an interview that he has some problems with his shoot mechanic, explaining it with his body's changes. But as soon as his weight will stabilize a bit, he should improve his shoot drastically !
And he still need to work on specific moves that he will be able to reproduce game after game without any chance for the defender to block the shoot. As soon as he will masterize two or three "signature" moves, he will become very difficult to play against without trapping him with more than one defender.
We just hope that the Spurs team will improve next year as it is currently very low in talents (they should trade Johnson, Mac Dermott, Osman. Vassel is a disappointment this season, hope he will improve). Trae Young would be one of the best player to put in the Wemby's team !!
I don’t think Chet is a MVP caliber at all…
@@benjipaname846 Chet does have the potential to be a MVP contender, but having SGA on his team would mean that he would not get enough votes. It's like the Steph+KD Warriors when they're eating off each other's votes.
@@amplesstratleholm7609 and jdub his really a third option rn
Yeah, chat is on a team that’s already stacked is there a third bass player? In my opinion I think J dubs just that good wow Wembanyama can literally be the best player we’ve ever seen he’s like chet but better he’s stronger he’s faster he’s taller he’s better at the rebounding he’s better a defense. Oh did I mention he’s younger and leading a franchise I’m sorry if the thunder had Wembanyama, they would be the clear-cut favorite to win the finals
I think Chet could be a good player. Definitely someone who could start on a championship team. But I'm not convinced he'd ever be MVP calibre, or maybe not even all-star calibre.
The difference between Chet and Wemby is that Chet's had a pretty good year on a top seed team. Wemby has had historical level stats on a bottom seed team. You can make the argument that being on a worse team means he can get fed the ball more because winning isn't a huge priority, but on the flip side the lower quality of the team overall means many passes, plays and setups aren't going to be as good and thus are going to require his talent to finish.
All that said, he's no sure thing to one day be an MVP or MVP contender either. But if you look at those two guys, one of them looks like they have a chance, and the other hasn't shown that yet.
I am french and huge fan of Wemby. So proud of him. From now I have to admit Chet impress me also. If the race finish today they will have to share the ROY trophy. But season isn't finished yet. We have the chance to witness what will be the most epic and fun rivalry in the coming season. Wemby vs Chet will be like Magic vs Bird soon.
We'll see if they can stay healthy.
One week it’s over for this nba player then next week it he’s a generational talent 🫠😂
This clickbait ass video making me want to unfollow him 😂
@@DaffyTaffy93 It's lame, and annoying. It's not even necessary.
One of the most underrated moved of the OKC last offseason is hiring Chip Engelland as their shooting coach. Chip is a long time coach for spurs, that helps Tony Parker, Danny Green, and Kawhi to a be an elite shooter. This is Chet’s secret of his efficiency.
But imagined if he is coaching Wemby.
I love that he’s not afraid of a rivalry. I don’t mind players being friends off the court. But we need rivalry in this sport.
It's better if both teams are good so we can actually see what winning Basketball is like. Wemby won the battle against Chet even though Chet himself still had great stats also but Thunder won comfortably.
I think the battles will be more exciting 5 years from now if both healthy and both their teams are good.
Chet just scored 4pts, 7rebs in a loss to the Timberwolves. Add that to his back to back triple singles a couple of weeks ago and you know he already lost the ROTY. & Wemby is improving by the day.
Imagine the narrative if Wemby did that,..
@@thestudent59007 thing is, he did not.
@@thestudent59007if wemby did that he still be leading roty because PEOPLE GLAZE HIS DICK OFF
Mfs miss games n shoot like shit aka Victor. But yet you Believe he should win??? Chet Does not even care for this Rookie award crap. He wants a Title. 😂😂😂
@@Tsound1wemby doesn’t even shoot like shit he is only 6% less than Chet and has better ft percent while wemby is getting triple teamed and Chet is getting wide open looks
Just entered ur page to see if theres a new vid and there was😂, always eat dinner with ur vids
similar feeling bro. I always eat breakfast watching his video
Thank you!!!
@@babsguette0919thanks brotha 🙏🏼
That's terrible, you must of went hungry yesterday.
Me too
Hey Casey! I just wanna say love your videos you’ve been doing crazy numbers recently! Keep it up
Hey, thanks!
In the end, both these guys are awesome talents. Hopefully the rivalry stays professional - no reason for it not to really.
One of the biggest problems with the NBA is because all their rivalries are professional... have you ever played sports? Or been outdoors?
@@ScottieDPOYY I played basketball for years when I was younger.... What's your point exactly - you can't enjoy the sport without extra drama? That says more about you.
@@stevieboymkii When did I say less drama is good? I suggested more drama, actual drama of not liking each other like it used to be. Men weren't so pussified but you are suggesting they stay pussified 🤦
And what's funny is that Victor is playing almost 2 minutes less than Chet, but is still averaging higher stats. If Victor continues to have higher averages than Chet on less or equal minutes and manages to boost his efficiency by a bit more, he will win ROTY guaranteed. And if he wins DPOTY on top of that, he might be one of the best rookies of all time next to Michael Jordan, LeBron, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, and Magic.
Lol Wemby should have higher averages. There's less 15-18+ scorers on the Spurs than OKC.
to play devil's advocate, Victor is also the first option. Chet is not
To clarify: I said this to point as to why Victor averages more
Victor is a rookie and the team already belongs to him, he does what he wants. Chet has to play to win while also being under sga
hes not winning dpoy, the spurs as a team are like 25th or something and you probably have to be top 5 as a team to even have a case
@@RayShooterAPbut taking almost 5 more shots a game
Wemby definitely in the driver's seat for ROY. Chet's numbers have gone down. At least OKC is the #1 seed now.
18 game lose streak, worst in conference...no
@@xavierb9061mate ROTY has never been about wins totals
Chet and JJJ are ahead of Wembanyama. He doesn't win. How can be last in the conference, worse then last year and be ROTY...?!?
@@nikolayjerev9285 Kevin Durant enters the chat
@@nikolayjerev9285chet has a mvp candidate teammate and is playing like the 4th best player on the thunder and jjj has 2 all star level teammates and is the 5th best player on the heat 😭😭😭 gtfoh
Ben Simmons keep on catching strays 🤣😭
Chet is good but Wemby is just a crazy high potential superstar player.. imagine him playing in limited minutes and performing very well
Chet could be a super star in fact he probably will be. Wemby however has best player in the world potential
Immagine Wemby in OKC and Chet in Spurs...😅
@@Chickenpesto2468 Best player in history* potential.
Wembanyama probably has the highest ceiling we've ever seen...
@@ducat7493fuck that. Imagine if OKC tanked last year for wemby😂😂Shai,Dort J dub, Wemby and Chet?!?! Bruhhhh we making the finals
Yo the title of this video had me crazy worried 😳😳
Thank you for including that dig at Ben Simmons, that is always appreciated and encouraged.
😂😂
You keep me informed, Thanks
These guys are both amazing. I'm happy to see where the league is going. Its refreshing to see 2 rookies fired up to play
Mildly interesting fact: Rookie of the Year has only gone to a player drafted lower than 6th five times in the last 48 seasons. It's only gone to a player drafted lower than 9th six times since they started giving out the award in 1952-53. Not super relevant here with these two but I thought it was kind of neat. The only rookie of the year drafted out of the top ten in the NBA right now is Malcolm Brogdon.
And 2 of those were Spurs D Robinson and T Duncan.
I think Chet is pretty happy to be #1 seed.
See if what? Your homeboys will be in 4th by March.
@@Kingfisher1215They're already in 3rd as of today.
@@Kingfisher1215 Every OKC/Chet fan acting like they're a lock for a chip this year😂
@@timmy-dnumber1990 Exactly look at what happened to the Kings last year lost in the 1st round to the warriors despite being the 3rd seed. I dont know how OKC get pass the 1st round i really dont. Their 2nd and 3rd best players are literally 1st and 2nd year players and come playoff time you cannot be successful if you rely on that. I really think they might even get swept by whoever they face because this youth will catch up to them.
I'm about to start a youtube channel just to be that guy with regular ass zero clickbait titles lol
The worst part about this for Chet is that he wasn't even drafted in the class of Wemby but now he will be compared to him every step of the way and eventually Wemby will be a one of a king generational talent, and Chet will be the third best player in OKC
2nd* he’s gonna be better the J-dub
Is he? I don't know about that. Especially because Chet will never get to do much. He has a role and that's the DeAndre Jordan role (with some threes)@@KlaeDoidge
@@blablablaa14 it's halfway through their first season playing together. Let's not get too excited with the predictions
Chet will not be a bigger star than SGA. Jalen is also better than him and gets more chances to create@@arcticus4758
Chet is going to be Trae Young, to Wemby’s Luka. Constantly compared. Having a great career too, but just quite not on that level.
I think an interview of Wemby sums it best. He said he is not in the league to make friends with opponents. He has that Jordan/Kobe mentality. When he stared at Chet, you could see Chet avoiding his eyes at all cost. That is an Alpha right there. A Lion staring at his prey. Year 3 of Wemby will be an MVP contender.
It's a great mentality, but it's a little silly to be acting like that with your team down 30
@@davidj5132 Sure, but they both know it's not about the team.
One is about to compete for a title, and the other is tanking (and would be losing a lot still, even if they tried), so it'd be comparing apples and oranges.
They both know which team is winning that match-up 9 times out of 10 this season.
This was about the ROTY award and making a point.
Both are great though, and would make a deserving ROTY. Season isn't over, things can still change for Chet. He's a bit unlucky he has to compete for ROTY against a guy who's got the potential to go down as the GOAT.
Not that he will reach that full potential or maintain it long enough to be in that convo, that's the near-impossible part, but the ceiling is probably the highest we've ever seen.
I'm surprised Chet isn't a flop... He's better than I thought he would be🤷
Future hall of famer
@@bigbangbasketball A bit early to call, especially given his injury history but he might just be👍
Why would you think he is a flop? Do you have some beef with him?
@@Maver1ck101 What a ridiculously dumb thing to say! Astonishing that you managed to literally defeat yourself with your own stupidity! 🤷...🤦... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Maver1ck101 Hilarious how you managed to defeat yourself with your own stupidity. Dumbest comment of the year by anyone so far🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In that Embiid 70 point game, Wemby wasn't even on the floor for half of the made field goals.
Embiid was cooking everyone. After Wemby had 2 fouls they switched it to Collins and Sochan and Embiid ate them up
posting this right after okc lost to the pistons 😂
since december 8th and the line up switch wemby's per 36 is 29 points 14 rebounds with 5 assists and 5 blocks..
I know how the rules work but to be honest if you miss a year and you come back your second year as a rookie, you aren't a rookie it's just not fair
finally some sense here. absolutly agree. lots of experience gained when u follow ur team all year, despite not playing, he s in his 2nd season, so technically aint a rookie smh. nba selling us bs here, like they did with ben simmons and blake griffin
Why? He didn't play a single nba game an was injured... If you think that is unfair then you must also think playing in any profesional league before should is also unfair, meaning wemby shouldn't be eligible
@@thesecretwombat056 check out definition of rookie: first year with the team. Chet is in second year. Aint a rookie. U dont wipe out a season coz dude was injured. Still count as a season. He gained experience. If a players plays 15 yrs in the nba but has one yr off coz of injury it still counts as 15 seasons. Get real. Nba wants to identify chet as rookie coz it s good for business that s all
@@gf5050 "In the National Basketball Association, a rookie is any player who has never played a game in the NBA until that year and the past 1 years."
what are you talking about bro...
Wemby played professional basketball, that gains you a lot more experience than sitting on the sidelines for a year.
@@thesecretwombat056 thx for making my point: "IN THE NBA, we do not respect the definition of a rookie coz it makes more money". good for them, but it s just bs, and u r buying it, blindly... playing "pro" has nothing to do with playing in the nba for a year, i mean, r u new to this? there are levels to this game smh. a player, from foreign pro league or college is still a rookie in his first season in the nba
i think his match up with joel is what made him understand dominace
Seeing a rookie play angry and agggresive is the most awesome thing ever.
Chet got the dog in him as he ain’t afraid to challenge anyone but Wemby got a little mamba in him.
Miss me with the mamba crap
Chet has that winning basketball mentality, wemby seems to care more about individual accolades
3rd option on OKC. I'd argue J Will is our number 2. I assume Chet would love to be rookie of the year, but I feel like winning is more important to him and he's been a perfect fit for OKC.
Dub is the 6'6" Jalen Williams, Jaylin "JWill" Williams is the 6'10" Backup Center.
Chet barely plays winning basketball, dudes selfish and tries to do too much, if he was on a team that wasn’t in a position to take a leap he’d struggle like he does when he gets on an island with top bigs. Offensively he’s something to watch, but overmatched size wise a lot of the time and he’s a terrible decision maker, not a playmaker whatsoever
Both guys are awesome. Whoever comes in 2nd should still feel really proud of themself.
2:15 "One problem!"
I love the way he said this part.
Wembanyama has benefited from the minutes restriction. He gets winded at the end of 24 minutes. When he's playing 6 minutes at a time, it keeps him fresh. When he plays long minutes, he struggles.
No it hasn’t benefited him. Body needs to condition to play 30 mins by playing 30+ mins. The restrictions don’t help
Not really Wemby is still putting up good stats in 30 minutes a night but i agree he is not ready to play 35 minutes a night since he will get tired.
He's the only big on the team that's doing what he's doing and he's seeing double and triple teams of course until they got another big similar to him he won't play more than 32 minutes a game
Jesus, by the cryptic title of the video, i thought Chet had a heart attack or something. Not exactly click bait, but a little misleading and apocalyptic to say the least
I like both of these two players, either who win both of them are great and going to be the face of the league when there time comes...
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Clickbait
As always
I love Wemby's attitude. If he keeps it this way, he will get more better.
Chet started the season with a higher floor, but after 1/2 way through the season it's become clear as day that Wemby has surpassed him, and obviously has a ceiling that is 2X higher as well. With that being said, he can be the perfect 3rd guy on a Championship OKC squad (Yes, Jalen Williams is/will be the #2)
Chet 4 points against my wolves tonight too he hit the rookie wall, he’ll have a good game now and again but you can see the dawg just isn’t in him right now he’s playing tired and he seemed afraid to shoot
Man I really hope San Antonio gets Lamelo Ball to run PG 🎉 that'll be a match made in heaven 🙏🏾
I heard they’re getting Trae.. that would give Wemby easy buckets all game. Trae is great playing with a good big man, he’s the master of the floater and throwin alleys.
How on Earth would Charlotte let that happen? Oh...it's Charlotte.
@@ClayTorres69 They suck as an organization 😒 it's destined Melo will eventually request a trade (like the other Melo)
@@cvgodd1432 That would be fun too
I've been watching Oklahoma City all season and the team is definitely using chet homegren differently than they did at the beginning of the season and that is part of why he is struggling. Don't get me wrong, the adjustments that the Spurs made have been great for Wemby and you can tell that he's still is trying to figure out his NBA game, but once he comes to the full understanding of that, he's going to be unguardable and unstoppable. The real truth is that Chet is not in his league.
Its really more about the improvement of Jalen Williams as to why Chet is now their 3rd option.
I will still take Chet over Wemby RN. He is a much more efficient player who can also block at one of the highest rates in the NBA & has almost single handedly made OKC a great defensive team compared to last season.
@@americassports2/9 4 points efficient 😂😂😂😂😂
@@americassportsi mean what your saying is true but wemby is a better defender in every catagory and a better scorer
@@levelleadersgaming8523 On defense, yes. But they're both elite, so that's splitting hairs.
I don't think Wemby is better on offense. Wemby is the #1 option who gets to take as many shots as he wants to. Holmgren is the #3 option playing next to a guy who gets 31 PPG. It only makes sense that Wemby would get more points but that doesn't make him better on offense.
@@americassports shot creation does holmgren struggles when defenses key in on him. Not good on ball creation at all. Off ball and slips hes elite but he cant often enough create for himself which is why he’s 3rd option. Jalen williams was number 3 until his creation became leaps and bounds better than chet.
Can you do your top ten best nba players of all time next please?
Wemby has the same fire in his belly like manu had in his day..: a champion fire within
I love Victor's fire and passion looking for the competition
Man I agree with you 100%
Wembenyama is so exciting
Where's the gambling ad? Thats the only reason I watch your videos!
Trey makes Spurs a serious contender now ! 😳
I love okc and chets been awesome, but he realistically had mayed a 2% chance of winning ROTY. 1% Wemby got hurt, and 1% SGA and J-dub got hurt. Its a media award, and Wemby was already crowned before he stepped in the NBA. And sinvlce ROTY doesnt have the 65 game minimum like MVP, outside of Chet just absolutely going off after All star break, its over.
Dont forger its american sports and mvp already are going to euro players or non americans for a lot of seasons now. U can see the lobbying for chet especially on espn with sas or with jj reddick on his podcast...
@@MrAQrateI stopped watching espn’s OKC vs SAS pregame show when they all collectively agreed that Chet wins ROTY. Their only reasoning is he’s in a team with a better record. Lmao. tf is that reasoning.
Wemby is just a better player buddy
@@MrAQrateChet has no case. Maybe at beginning of the season but it’s over now wemby of putting up all star numbers
@@hashbrown4278 True. Wemby's number are getting better and Chet's are getting worse. Over the last ten games Chet is shooting 47%, 28% from 3, 58% from the line and averaging 13 points.
Chet already had NBA training and experience for a year. He had that extra season to develop while Wemby was a a true rookie. I still love both players and anyone who wins deserves it. Wemby needs a better team around him.
wemby play professional basketball in the top league in europe. he had professional training so i dont think you can put one as a true rookie and the other one not
Bol Bol had NBA training and experience for years and still sucks, stop making excuses 😂😂😂
Wembys a year in a half younger
@@IKER0718which is still NOT the NBA. That NBA exposure will give Chet a lot more realization on the league. Whoever gets it will deserve it.
@@blentoot2382 Excuses? Wemby cooked Chet in their matchup, and was ducking Wemby too. Stop nuthugging 😂😂😂
It'd be actually dope if both Chet and Wemby win co-ROTY
6:21 bro that’s insane dude didn’t even jump he legit can just drop the ball in the basket 😂
People bringing up efficiency and wins as the main point somehow forget about the best point guard, top 5 player in the entire league in SGA being the biggest reason why
TBH I have no idea why the race between the two is even a question. Wembanyama is leading all rookies in (per game for all categories) PTS, REBs, STLs and BLKs whilst being 4th in ASTs. A stat record like this has never been done before, aside from maybe Wilt Chamberlain's rookie season (Mans won MVP). If anyone that was American put up such a monster season as a rookie and STILL didn't win ROTY, the whole NBA would come crashing down with claims of being rigged and biased. At this point the only people who vote Holmgren over Wemby are the ones with agendas and disregard the fact that the ROTY is supposed to be an individual exclusive award and not an award that accounts for team records/capabilites such as the MVP, DPOY and Rings.
I hope this goes on until the end of the season. This is the best competition I’ve seen so far for the #NBA #ROTY. Gooooooooo #CHET!!!!! Gooooooooo #WEMBY!!!!!.😅
Great Video. Well done 👏👏👏💪💪. And wemby is ROY.
Chet shouldn't be eligible for ROTY because having a year to not just bond with the team, but to have access to their staff and facilities, is a completely unfair advantage, and anyone who says otherwise is dreaming. I realize it is the way the rules are, my argument is that the rules need to change. If you get injured and miss a year, then that goes in the tough luck bucket. TBH I was hoping chet would win because only with "the biggest prospect since Lebron James" missing ROTY to a second year player would they consider changing that rule.
You are right, of course.
So Donovan Mitchell should've gotten ROY too. I agree
6:42 Chet just got a boney wemby shoulder in his chest and STILL got the block 🥶
That wasn't a block, Wemby just missed the dunk. You can go read the play by play, the stats just show Wemby missed a shot at the rim
this could be one of the best rivalries in the future
What a time to be alive. If both can fulfill the expectations this could be one of the most entertaining rivalries ever.
Imagine these 2 in their prime going face to face with each other in the playoffs.
You would think Chet has an incurable illness by the title bro chill out lol
It's clickbait
Lol bro I'm from okc, and saw that title and thought he was dead or dying. Gave me anxiety for a sec
Chet isn't scoring alot despite him being on a better team - he's scoring EXACTLY because of that: second/third option (with shai) vs first...
wemby isnt even the first scoring option because they dont actually pass it to him a lot and he doesnt have a real facilitator
I know I've said this before, but Wemby hitting a SHAM GOD at 7'4" and then a modified sky hook over a former DPOY in the same play is insaaaaaaaaaane.
Man I just love em both, they're so neck and neck. And this is just the start. I cannot wait to see them both evolve.
Wemby taking this ROY race so seriously and personally shows you that he's cut from the same cloth as MJ and Kobe mentality-wise
Meanwhile, Chet is just, y'know, *winning games* Wemby is the next Embiid - only concerned with personal achievement
Even if Chet wins out in the end, the point has been made: Wemby is WAY better than Chet at this stage of his career, and projects to be a much better player overall.
So stoked wemby got that fire in him freakin love it
how do you compute who is leading?
Wins matter for these awards, especially when it is so lopsided to Chet.
Wins have hardly ever mattered for ROY. You also can't attribute the wins solely to chet for OKC as he is their third option, and you can't attribute the losses solely to Wemby either. Team success should by a tertiary consideration for this award. And right now, on an individual level, from December onwards, Wemby has been the best rookie in the league by a considerable margin.
@@Vourne OKC was a 10th seed last year. When Chet came into the mix this year, they've become a number 1 seed. Chet can and should win ROTY. However, Chet really shouldn't focus on the ROTY. He should instead focus on bringing OKC an NBA championship. I never thought OKC would a number 1 seed so soon.
@@TDotRedemption You're completely disregarding J-Dubs improvement. To say it's only Chet bringing the team to the first seed is being disingenuous and not taking into account the improvement of the entire team
@@TDotRedemption its has little to do with Chet.Its about SGA who was not even in consideration last year for MVP. Its about Jalen Williams producing more. Chet is the third option on his team. He is a vital piece but not the biggest reason they are number 1. These recent games has proven that, Chet has not produced in January but they still win. The games they lose are the ones SGA has a bad night
Agree they have improved. But your statement needs a lot of nuance added to it.
First off, the Timberwolves also jumped up a lot, meaning there has been a shift in power in the west. Especially with the Grizzlies giving their spot up, denver receding record wise as well. And also, several OKC players have made a large jump this season, and their leader Shai is in the top 3 MVP voting this year as well. All of these factors lead to the number 1 seed. You can't just say "Last year, 10th seed. Chet comes, now 1st seed. Chet=ROTY.
Way too broad of a statement.@@TDotRedemption
I love that competitive fire
I really like Chet, but last night Gobert showed him he has some stuff to learn still
This video was next to another video saying OKC was the next NBA dynasty on my TH-cam feed lol
Holmgren has the advantage of a bursting team, while Wembi is stuck with his tanking Spurs. I think this might also have a lot of impact on both players and there possibilities
I am glad Chet and Wemby have a rivalry. Who wouldn't want that? Two very high level 7 footers with that skillset? And they are young, so we NBA fans have reason to tune in for quite a long time. I just hope, hope, hope they both stay healthy. It's good for the game.
It’s not over yet. Playoffs games are a whole different beast playing there 🏀
that wemby block on tyus jones was insane
Chet should be more efficient considering that SGA is attracting 2-3 team, so he has to have that looks :)
Another reason that I think Chet went down in the odds is cause he's kind of hit that rookie wall, over the past two weeks chet has averaged 12 and 8. Although the blocks are still there, his offense fell off a little.
Wemby is a nice Giannis guy with secret MJ living inside.
These nba globetrotter rookies keeps fans entertained
GOAT analysis. Kudos
*Nba player has a few bad games in a row*
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He was just 2/4 (50%) against Wemby, while Wemby scored 7/15 (46%) on Chet?!?!
I think this is a point for Chet. Not only did he score more efficiently in the 1v1 (yes, barely), but he was mature enough to look for the best play, and not the ego matchup.
great vid
What's your ROY graph based on?
Love to see Vic’s competition
great video. and spot on too. wemby deserves ROY, more pressure on him, surrounded by less talent and also chet aint a rookie, he s in his 2nd season. he didnt play last year but he gained massive experience and confidence, learned system and developed chemistry with teammates....
He’s in his first season though
@@FOTLRocketnrG 2nd. He was with okc last yr. got signed and paid
@@gf5050 hm ok, I figured as long as you haven’t played at all bc of injury then it doesn’t count as a season. But him being signed and paid makes sense
More pressure on Chet, he can't make mistakes. Wemby can just spam anything he wants to do.
@@FOTLRocketnrG i tell u what, imo, it s not even about being paid/signed. it s about the experience. injured or not, if u spend a full year with ur team, u experience the league first hand, u not a noob/rookie anymore. and this is why he is so solid this year, coz he s a sophomore in reality, mentally. but i know why the league still wanna consider him a rookie, it s good for business...