100 Series Landcruiser - Towing full time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- A quick video about our tow rig, we run with a 2006, 100 Series Landcruiser 4.2L 1HD-FTE to tow our home around the country.
We chat about how we got it ready for towing, Safety, Performance, Weights and Suspension.
Feel free to reach out if there there is something specific you want to know.
Hi Mark, thanks for the info. I’m a Mark Whittle too and have had a 100 series for many years as well but now with a van with a heavy 260kg TBW I need to look at a GVM upgrade. I’m considering ❤one down here in Bunbury from Dapco using Pedders gear. It only raises my GVM to 3595kg but that should be enough and mean I won’t have to remove my drawers & fridge slide. I also had the OME suspension but that’s gonna have to go. Funnily enough, Kevlar pads are part of the GVM upgrade. They also recommended slotted rotors but I have only just had new rotors fitted late last year.
A 3” exhaust has been on my wish list for years, even decided on the Manta one when I talked to the guys at a 4x4 or caravan show. Uncanny how many similarities between us.
I look forward to following your adventures. Cheers, Mark
Thats just uncanny!
Yeh ive heard that GVM upgrade is the way to go, i dont think it was available when i was looking.
3595 would suit me just perfectly, even just to the acle rating of 3.5 would do me.
The cara been unreal lately, im down in Tas at the moment and its pulling my van up these hills like a freight train
Thanks for the video, plus the comments and your answers, really helpful. I ordered an LC300 last year, due for delivery in Aug/Sep. I am currently having doubts, thinking a 100 series turbo will do the same job, just a bit slower up the hills. Our van has a 2600 tare, 3000 fully loaded, with 280-300 ball weight, how does this compare to your van. Cheers
Hey mate, mines 3100 fully loaded but only 240-250 on the ball. It seems light but everything is loaded quite well and its never budged so it seems happy at that 7-8% range.
The car does the job well, plenty of power, the big hills between cairns and atherton table lands was a 3rd gear job but every other hill has been 4th and not much of a concern.
I just wish i paid for GVM upgrade years ago, too hard and too expensive to find a nationally recognised one now without starting from scratch. So i had to lose a lot of the accessories i wish i could have on the car itself
A couple of things i did on my 200 series that id do again on any auto vehicle id have in future....engine remap, trans remap and lock up kit ( ironically done in Perth when i was over there in 2017, i live in Vic ) 500 kg springs in rear, and dba t2 survival front rotors. Not to gratuitously plug my chan, however, theres vids there with old mate kelpie and the van i tow if youre bored.
Oh awesome il check it out, and mines not an auto, id love to get it tuned and put a part time kit in it to start. But its all $ and its doing its job and doing it well so it gets bumped down priority list.
@@Ourwhittleadventure please dont think i was dick swinging or what not, that wasnt my intention. We set things up to suit our selves, and what works for us.
Oh no i didnt take it that way at all! I appreciate some ideas on how better to do things. Im no mechanic, always learning better ways of doing things
Hi Mate, I love your set up & are certainly on your page. I'm looking at buying a 100 series soon and selling my Hilux 2013 79km ( Which I love ) But the 100 series 4x4 have so many Km's. on them. Your thoughts on the high kilometres please.
Cheers Sandy.
If itd been maintained well these cars are known to do well in excess of 500k kms.
Thats the FTEs im not sure of the V8s
They are an old car now, 15 years old for the youngest ones but i think some of the best cars toyota made
Hey mate awesome rig we love ours and about to get into some caravanning with our 18ft. What size tyres are you running also I couldn’t quiet hear what you said you replaced the roof rack with.
Ocam tow mirrors
slotted dbat3 bendix kevlar brake pads
Hpd half size front mount intercooler
3” exhaust mantra
Performance chip mantra
Bilsteins front shocks
2” lift. Old man emu shocks efs 350kg constant rated coil springs
Airbag man airbags kevlar sling
Arb roof rack
Is that correct?
Wow did well to take all that in.
I run BF goodrich A/T KO2 285/70R17.
I used to have a steel tracklander roofrack but it was too heavy so the ARB baserack was the swap.
I now have some new mirrors too, got asked to test out some San Hima ones. Much of a muchness it terms of visibility but the San Hima ones do look a bit neater then ocam
Hey mark awesome setup. I’m a big fan of the 100 series I see myself getting one one day. Are you running a dual battery system in the cruiser at all? I know they come from factory with 2 cranking batteries.
Hey mate, they are a ripper vehicle, i do miss the set up i used to have before touring with drawers and awnings and fridge slide and all but shes a workhorse all the same.
Im still running the dual batteries that come standard in Parrallel, i run Amaron batteries though that seem to be a mix between deep cycle and cranking, they are 4 years old and still test new so ive been happy with them, when we were off grid camping i could run my engel for 3-4 days and use led lights at night and still start the car to give some idea of what its capable of.
Ive tjought about seperating them but havent felt the need with how im running
@@Ourwhittleadventure very interesting hearing about the batteries. Heard good things about those amaron batteries. Was that without running the car over the days or did you drive each day? Yeah would be nice to have the extras but the vans definitely a nice thing!
Nah i didn’t need to run the car at all in that time, i had mates with me so could just jump start if needed to. But the engel didnt draw much just being a fridge and it was winter so it wasnt working hard
Hey Saxon,
The two batteries have there own purpose, the passenger is your starter and the driver side is your accessory one the two batteries are in place to run the prestart heater as there’s no need for glow plugs. So at start the heater will draw 90amps for 30 seconds to heat the air going in… which in oz is a waste of time I disconnected mine 7 years ago and it starts perfectly fine and will save your alternator in the long run..
Hi Mark, nice rig you have there. What Bullbar have you fitted please. Thanks, Kevin
Hey Kevin, im sorry to say but i actually have no idea!
It was already on the car when i bought it and it had no branding or plaques or anything on it.
Its a steel whinch bar, i was thinking maybe old school dobinsons?
Just bought a 100 series 4.2 d great car. J7st having it completely resprayed then will start fit out. How did you find the performance difference with the new exhaust?
I noticed a big change but it was also the same time i was stripping a lot of weight off the car so it is hard to say
Mark, did the 3 inch exhaust help and would you also put the snorkel on if you had time over. Im also Mark, but with a 105 landcruiser 4,2 NA, Cheers
I think the 3 inch definitely helped, and yeh i have the snorkel already.
Perks are higher cleaner air i take and better for those deeper water crossings so yes id do it again
G'day Mark,
Thanks for your video's I enjoy seeing your travels. I also have a 100 series 1HD-FTE and I am looking at buying a caravan. Do you feel like you have good enough performance from the vehicle with the van on the back? I am looking at doing the GVM/GCM upgrade in Vic because we are looking at travelling full time as well having it as our home thus a larger van. Do you ever feel like you needed a different car? Or some performance mods? Cheers!
Hey mate, cheers for reaching out.
I have been really happy with the performance with the modd it has.
All i wish was for more payload of GVM upgrade. But i found it too hard to find a nationally recognised one and too many $ so i make do.
Otherwise it does everything i ask of it with more then enough power!
You may as well put an exhaust and a tune on there... heck it's a FTE they sound unreal and go like shit of a shovel with basic mods
I have the 3inch exhaust, and from my understanding you can’t actually tune these motors, you can only do so with a tuneable chip.
I just have the Manta plug and play chip but it seems to do the job!
@@Ourwhittleadventure Yep a Unichip really wakes these engines up, slightly larger turbo, intercooler and you will be pulling like a coal train. Even stock get woken up a whole lot
Yeh il give it another birthday when im working full time again, but shes doing well. 2 years now towing this van and no major issues and more then enough power
Could you please show us how you mounted your safety Dave screen on your dash?
In this video it just uses the windscreen suction mount but for the past year thanks to being a bit rough, it actually just rests on the dash against the windscreen unless we go off road now
Hello from the USA
I have a 1999 Land Cruiser 4.7 V8 and 4 speed auto
What trans coolers do you Aussie boys used to keep transmission temperatures down
Hmm good question, i don’t have one in mine being the manual but i think the Autos come with factory trans coolers.
HPD is a brand that comes to mind when i think of trans coolers
@@Ourwhittleadventure if you have any mates with automatics maybe ask him what they use. Good luck and safe travels
Will do, i have a mate il be seeing in a couple weeks that has an auto actually
Hey mate, how's she go with hill starts with the van on being manual? Cheers and love the videos!
Ha! Its a technique for sure.
Have been pretty fortunate not to need to do too many yet, on one occasion i threw it into lowrange and got it going.
Pin 7 mod is to thank for that.
Not sure if i mentioned it in this vid or not
Yeah mint! I have pretty much the same set up mate, love the ftes but yeah the hill start definitely takes alittle with them! Cheers for the reply!
Oh nice one!
Yeh its a brilliant car, my pride and joy!
Has a few underlying things to get sorted but she still runs like a dream
Thanks, perfect on weights for what I was looking for. How's the fuel consumption
Usually between 20 and 22L/100kms
Sitting on 95km/h.
I only sit on that speed as it just hums nicely at 2600rpm
@@Ourwhittleadventure do you tow mostly in 4th gear?
@richmacdod yeh only in 4th
Really makes you consider a gvm upgrade hey. You just don't realise how heavy they are until you get them on the weighbridge
Yup! If it was easier to do before i left then i probably would of got an upgrade. Ahwell, have made it work for 12 months now, don’t really need to carry anything else on the car.
@@Ourwhittleadventure exactly mate! Plenty of space in that gorgeous van!
Thats it, even then we still have too much stuff 😅 thanks for reaching out!
@@Ourwhittleadventure I am in NSW and just bought a 2006 4.2TD and trying to get a GVM upgrade for it over here is almost impossible and have been told they can't do one on this model...Any ideas on where to start? Cheers..
Not really, thats exactly why i dont have a GVM upgrade it was way too hard on this older vehicle.
Jump in the IFS owners group on FB some of those boys know some wngineers over your way
hi mark, what brand and model bar does it have on the front?
Sorry mate i actually have no idea, i think its a factory toyota steel winch bar but its been on since before i bought the car and has no model numbers or logos or anything
Thanks mate good video. I have a 105 series I have converted to a fte. Tuned, running 185rwhp and 650nm. Still I found her a tad aluggish up some big hills towing the 2.5t van. Whats your experience with towing long hills and rpm and speed drop? Im cobsidering a turbo upgrade....
105 FTE would be the dream!
This video is pretty old now but i just spent 3 months towing this van around Tassie with some pretty big hills and it handled it pretty well.
I have never been on a dyno so i cant quote power but i was able to hold 3rd gear around 2600 - 2800rpm up most hills with the chip dialed up one notch.
I still take it pretty easy as i don’t have Exhaust Gas temp guage yet, do you have a turbo already?
No turbo yet, it has a unichip, tuned, standard turbo, 3 I ch exhaust and big intercooler. Manual tho so 4th gear up hills but lost rpm up long hills
GTURBO is right near me in perth tho
My mate got a GTurbo put in his, was a pretty impressive difference after.
4th gear towing up a hill and losing a bit of RPM isnt too bad though is it? I was watching all the Y62s towing have to drop back to 2nd on the hills i was climbing
I was getting a bit hot so have a fun upgrade coming, but it would be nice to jace another 50hp and 100nm at the wheels even lower down the rev range
How do you find travelling with just the standard stone guard in the caravan and nothing on the car ? Does the van get hammered with rocks ?
Not really, a few small stones have got past but the stone guard has done a pretty decent job.
Ideally i would get a stone stomper but so far this has done the job
I was looking at stone stomper but seems painful everytime I want to get into the back of the car and not keen on rock tamers might just see how I go with the standard stone guard
Yeh that’s definitely fair, i think it would drive me nuts too.
I think decent mud flaps and stone guard might be the go.
Can also put a wrap or fake checker plate on front of vsn for extra protection
Why the Manta chip for performance rather than a full retune? (Or is this a part of the retune), And what did the power and torque go from and to?
Couple of reasons, 1 being (and correct me if i am wrong) you cant actually tune this engine itself. You achieve so with a tuneable chip like unichip.
2, it was cost based as i had a mate with a manta chip not being used so it didnt cost me anything to plug it in.
I havent had it on a dyno to know the power and torque stats sorry, aslong as it did the job i needed it to, i was happy.
@@Ourwhittleadventure Getting a mates LC100 (he's a Car dealer) in a few weeks. Didnt know you couldnt tune them, but that explains the youtube videos I've seen so far. What about transmission cooler? (I saw that you had put an intercooler on it). Other LC100 specific mods? OBD2 chip, or is that only for the newer cars?
Ah nice, depends in the model i think.
Transcooler isnt something ive seen many others do, i think Auto transmission tend to think about it but no so much the manuals.
The scanner would be good but i havent found it necessary myself.
If you can get an auswide recognised GVM upgrade i would, the payload can dissapear very quickly
Good video. What does the caravan weigh?
It sits at about 3.1ton whenever we weigh it
Hi Mark, We Have a 2017 Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series GXL model fitted with a BullBar, Snorkel, Roof Rack (Kayak Carrier), Awning, Side Steps, All Terrain Dirt TYRES, Clear-view Towing Mirrors, UHF Ariel/Radio and Tow Bar and we are towing a 2.7 Ton Jayco Caravan to Busselton, Albany, Pemberton, Kalgoorlie, Bremer Bay and Esperance and do you know what the weight of the Caravan is fully loaded with Water, Cutlery, Blankets, Pillows, Clothes, Food, Drinks and Gas in it and do you when they measure the caravan is it empty with beds of full weight and do you know what the car weight will be with the UHF Radio, BullBar, Snorkel, Roof Rack, Awning, Side Steps, Dirt Tyres, Towing Mirrors and Tow Bar on it. Since we have a spare tire underneath the car do you think we should put 1 on the back of the car as well or is the weight to much as we are trying to get the towing capacity limit to 3.3 ton and the car weight to 2.9 Ton and there are 4 people going myself and my partner and my Parents and our 3 Dogs (1 Black Lab, 1 Chocolate Lab & 1 Gold Lab) and 2 Kayaks and do you know what places we should see when we are in Busselton, Albany, Pemberton, Kalgoorlie, Bremer Bay and Esperance and Do you know what the weight will be of the car when loaded with 4 People and 3 Dogs and the kayaks on the roof rack with all the accessories that I mentioned above will be.
Hey guys,
In all seriousness i think you will be well and truly over your vehicles GVM unless you have an upgrade.
Your payload is 610kg on those cars standard.
A 2.7ton van can potentially have 270kg towball weight.
So you have 340kg left for fuel, passengers and accessories.
I would suggest you start by getting your car weighed with everything you would have travelling except for the van and see what you have left.
In regards to places to see, that whole Cape Naturaliste to cape leeuwin area is amazing. Albany to walpole is absolutely stunning, elephant rocks and green pool a must.
Feel free to message me on FB messenger if you want to chat more
@@Ourwhittleadventure What is a GVM Upgrade and is the caravan weight when you buy it empty or full and does the accessories on your car count as part of your towing capacity and we have decided to not put a spare tire on the back of the car. If I have got this correct that The BullBar is to protect the car from hitting Roos and cows, the snorkel is to keep cool air into the car and keep the water and dust out of the engine, the Roof Rack is the transport kayaks on it and the clear view towing mirrors are to see behind your caravan when towing. Since we have an awning and uhf radio on the car we want to know what do they do. How many months do you think we should spend travelling to Busselton, Albany, Pemberton, Bremer Bay, Esperance and Kalgoorlie for
GVM is Gross Vehicle Mass and is the total your cars weight can be on its axles so it includes all accessories, fuel, passengers and towball weight from the trailer.
Standard those cars have 610kg of payload to cover all that extra so very easy to go over without an upgrade to a bigger GVM rating.
It doesnt take away from towing capacity in a sense but if you have no payload left for your towball weight then you can’t tow anything legally.
Hey guys, does the car have an GVM upgrade and are you within your weight limits? Cheers 🤙🏼
No gvm upgrade, was too hard in WA before i left. There is a few more options on the market now.
Yes, just… my saving grace is my low towball weight but its the reason i have no drawers or fridge in the car.
I do find it frustrating, im 300+kg under GCM, all axles are under its just the GVM that is the balancing act.
I don’t use my sub tank unless we are remote to give me some wiggle room on it.
@@Ourwhittleadventure ok, thanks for the fast response. I would like to buy a similar combination but I think it is easier to find a LC200 with a gvm upgrade than a 100 series. Safe travels guys! 🤙🏼
Yeh i think you might be right, wouldnt be much of a peice difference either by what ive seen these going for lately
Do you tow with a weight distribution hitch
No i don’t, just a dropper hitch to level out the van as rear of car sits too high normally.
350kg constant rated springs and i do have airbags but don’t use them.
Im only 240 on the ball so have never felt it to be necessary
How many km you get on both tanks ?
141L gives me about 600kms towing as an average, ive had better, up close to 700 and ive had worse at 500.
But 600kms is pretty common
So I shouldn’t be worried if I’m getting 900 to 950 on 140l no towing?
No i think im about the same on the highway without towing, i use a bit more around town
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