Kate. Good honest review as usual. Seems like a cracking bike for the money. Makes a Bee em look a bit sick for all the money they cost. By the way you are far from incompetent in any shape or form. A great motorcyclist who presents some super vlogs. Keep at it coz thousands of us are pleased you do.
I am considering this bike , I'm 99% sold on the idea. Like you I have a 29 inseam, when I tried it in showroom it was way too high but I think with low seat & lowering kit it may well be right for me, I am 73 years old & just sold my 1200gsa. Thought it was time to downsize.
Stunning bike regardless and for the money it's a huge WOW and a wonderful way into a quality ride that has all a rider could ever desire if they want the modern toys and frills - seriously you could ride this bike forever and be happy. In answer though, it's a hard NO, BMW buyers won't transfer to Voge in a million years - both BM and Voge know this, they have a great symbiotic relationship and it's refreshing to see the bike world changing in front of our eyes
Really appreciate the seat height/parking demonstration Kate! Would love to see that in yours and other's reviews. Constantly use your videos as a reference (we're about the same height), and usually fast scroll to if you've included the mounting/stopping in traffic part. Still a newbie myself, so the seat height still matters some. Hope it'll be something you'll include in future videos, hope more reviewers catch on. Wish you all the best, ride safe!
I'm not an adventure bike kind of bloke but this one is spectacular value. Triumph and BMW' are very pricey and for those of us who don't want to take out a second mortgage to buy a bike will find this much more palatable. Those 20 zones really are an affront to your senses.
Seems to be a serious, capable bike, that also seems to be well put together with quality suspension and brakes. It is obviously also well thought through design wise to look appealing. You are in your right element when reviewing bikes. Nice listening to you, and your experience from many different bikes really shines through 😊.
I took a gamble with the CF Moto 3yrs with the 650 MT. And I love it . I've done over 13,000 miles touring Ireland Scotland & Wales. And she's never let me down No issues whatsoever. I took the first test ride of the Voge 900 in northern Ireland and have to say wow amazing Tec and a fantastic bike . Unlike CF Moto . They seem to be having trouble with distributing the bikes.northern Ireland only has 2 bikes and I'm told there's No More until next year? So what does this mean for parts servicing warranty? That said the bike looks feels & ride brilliantly. Not one issue or bad point on the test ride other than setting everything to my own linking and feel. It's better than the new triumph Tiger 900. And dare I say the CF Moto 800 explorer.-
Great review Kate, I had the 500DSX and got shut of it after a year as the seat was dire. A few observations; if it comes with full boxes (like the 500 did), then it needs a 20L tank to give it a a 200+ range, I recall the TPMS and external temp gauge were pretty inaccurate on the 500 and the paint finish on the crash bars wasn't great - not sure if that's the same on the 900? The switches don't look as good as the Brand Leaders and the front brake master cylinder looks like they took it off a moped. The TFT would benefit from being bigger and really extend the warranty for at least 3yrs. The resale prices of Voge's is not great and insurance is higher than other models (my 500 cost more than my 1800 Suzuki). Overall they are good bikes, certainly for the money, but need to refine the offering somewhat. Finally a GS beater? - price yes but refinement - hmmm.
It sounds like a bike that could put the cat among the pigeons doesn't it. Great looker, high quality components, throwing the full accessory catalogue at it as standard. Could be a winner 👍
No, you're not late with this Voge, as I always wait for your reviews before watching one elsewhere. I like the gold rims with this colour choice (unusual for me), the grip guards and tempomat, plus the tidy cockpit. The bike actually looks good overall, especially looking at it face on, but it doesn't really stand out against the many others in this catogory (except the KTMs). The biggest draw is (well for me) the price and all you get for it. I do wonder though how it will hold it's price as a used bike, and how good the overall finish and workmanship on it is. Having said all that, i'm not really into this catagory, although I do enjoy the occasional ride on an adventure tourer, so you've done enough to make me ask myself....., where is my next Voge dealership?
Certainly something to give a lot of manufacturers sleepless nights 🤔. For me though a bit on the heavy side 😞. In fact, as from yesterday I became the proud owner of Voge DS525X! I've been up to the Yorkshire dales today, Settle,Hawes, Tan Hill Inn and back home via Devils Bridge, the bike seems exelent 🤞, just as you found on the 900, a bit lumpy at low revs/speed but for 6k I can live with that. In all, an exelent piece of kit 👍🏍.
Its funny because I didn't experience anything but a super smooth ride on the DS525X, but on this, it's throttle is noticeable but manageable. strange!
Great review. You can update the fuelling via a download to your phone and then link to wifi hotspot on bike. Early bikes shipped with version 4.1. My bike arrived this week with 4.3 and I’ve just updated it to 4.4 and the surging is much reduced.
@@UsernameKate ah ok. I only got my bike yesterday and did about 20 miles. Updated from 4.3 to 4.4 this afternoon and have literally ridden a few miles but it certainly seems smoother with 4.4. But the fact you can update yourself via an android phone should bring easy further improvements . Let’s be honest, the Voge isn’t as polished as the 850/900GS …..BUT it’s half the price for 90% as good. I’d rather pay what I did and have the Voge with a few minor niggles such as occasional surging at very low revs, and a crap indicator switch than pay DOUBLE for a BMW that is nearly identical from the waist down .
Took delivery of mine on Monday been out twice very impressed with the ride. Throttle is snappy at low speed but manageable. Very heavy to move about but will get used to it. Still haven't worked out how to use the App and find a manual but will get there. Buy one if your in the market.
Fantastic spec. , and you can't argue with the price. Sorry, but I'll be sticking with Japanese reliability. It's too early for Chinese manufacturers to challenge the Japanese yet in this respect.
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I really like this, if I didn’t already have the BMW f850 gs id be looking to get one.
Thanks, even if I don't like Chinese bikes, without any particular reason...it is just me 😊. I must give credit to this machine. If Chinese are now this good I'm wondering how it is going to be in a few years from now. Regards from Serbia 🇷🇸
Thanks for the comprehensive review,, I'm interested at this bike just i want to ask you is it smooth operating how is the vibration at the handle bar and it's stability at the high speed?,, thanks.
After 1 hour 20 of *ahem* motorway speeds, when I pulled up, I did feel a slight tingle in my hands, but not as bad as some where I will tap the tank with my fingers after a ride and it feels like I have springs in my finger tips! It wore off pretty instantly. The country lane stuff, my hands didn't tingle afterwards. High speed stability is very good, no issues with that.
Hi Kate. Firstly Great video and welcome to my part of the world. You mention the surging at low speed. Do you think it was because you were in sport mode? And did you try it at low speed in any other mode? Cheers
Chinese bikes have come on leaps and bounds these last few years and this one looks like a quality machine but i have reservations about the hi-tech electrical components and I'm not a fan of keyless ignition. If it goes wrong in a few years it will be a nightmare and doesn't have the dealership support of an equivalent Japanese or German bike. Nevertheless it looks fantastic and thanks for another comprehensive video, Kate.
BMW have been making keyless forever and are pretty much the most experienced out there i think, we have never had an issue in any of our cars using it - same system being used here i expect, i like keys but i would not worry about this one bit
Yup... There's a reason why Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki are BY FAR the most reliable and there's a reason why Tenere is the most popular adventure bike for 6 years straight now. No bullsh*t tech means there's nothing to break down, meaning you can ride the bike 24/7 for a year straight and nothing will break down or wear down and you will have to do absolutely nothing besides change oil, filters and tires. There's a reason why Yamaha has only 11% failure rate and BMW, Ducati, KTM, Triumph and other well over 40% (Yes, over 40%, that's not a typo and those are official statistics!) The last thing I want when on a month long trip, is to have my bike break down or have something fail and have to constantly be under stress and worry about whether or not my bike will blow up in the middle of nowhere...
@nogerboher5266 Spot on. Bikes with too many electronics are a recipe for disaster and German bikes seem to suffer from electrical gremlins after a few years. Keeping it simple with the minimum of rider aids is my philosophy. The Chinese bike that Kate reviewed would give me the Heebie-jeebies.
@@Apollo949 Yup, yup... A couple that I met in Austria at Grosglockner, the older gent had 640,000+km on his Tenere and his wife has an old 2002 VStrom with 450,000+km. They said that they did TWO around the world trips on those bikes with zero issues. TWO! I thought that he was joking at first! LOL! I've also seen hundreds of other people all over the internet, forums and here on TH-cam, posting their Yamahas, Suzukis and Hondas with numbers on their clocks quite deep into those six digits... And not only did they have six digit mileages, they were all with zero issues too... That's why I prefer low tech bikes, there is almost nothing that can break and even if something does break, there's a 99% chance that it can be easily fixed on the spot provided you know how to do it and have the tools with you (which you always should!)
Hi Kate, great review of both a good looking bike with spec and price to have many thinking..... HHmmmm 15-20+K for top brands ?... .This is a bit off base, but can I ask what mic you use as your audio is crystal clear... I get part of that is you have a projective voice.... Thanks for sharing your take on this new push for China....👍🥃
There have been other comments online about the centre stand being difficult to deploy from underneath the swinging arm. Did you find this? Also, that the tins are a bit difficult to get on and off?
Awesome video! Great review. You hit all the points of interest. I don't get it though. From BMW's perspective as far as a relationship in production and competition. It looks like a GS, tank angle and geometry. At what ? Almost half the price and all the features. I suppose the only thing you are giving up with the Voge is cool factor. I would definitely be interested in this bike. Beautiful bike for sure. Best!
Great review on a bargain bike that does look the business. I’m not saying that a Chinese company would steal intellectual property ( thought I would put that disclaimer in as I don’t want the CCP coming around and kicking in my back door ) but a what point do European manufactures realise that outsourcing manufacturing to China could be destroying there own brand?
My only real concern with Chinese bikes these days is rust resistance - I like to ride in all weathers, and also like my bikes to continue to look nice after a few years. Can't knock the value for money, though.
I was going to take a look ,looked at least a dozen videos been good overall, and the comments pretty good, Have to agree what it's offering is brilliant, however one individual had the swing arm lose another fueling issues took it back had it remapped at the dealer new upgrade free of charge and its doing the same thing again snatchy throttle, , hopefully that been solved with the upgrade, I'd buy a Triumph but even they have had a few issues, I have looked at the BMW 850 and that has had few problems so how reliable is this going to be long term if the engine is the same. Nice too see your review on this bike 😊
Hi Kate, great review! Giving TMF a run for his money that’s for sure! 😊 Can you confirm the payload in kg on this bike please? I’ll be booking a test ride in the near future based on your review 👍
Hi Kate, Excellent review as always thanks. I wonder whether the surging issue at low speed sorts itself out with the latest ECU mod. Any idea what update it had on it? Anyway, I've booked a test ride next week at Bob Minion, Derby. We'll see how it goes. Thanks again, Lee
Its not an ECU mod. It's just a display update (this had had it the morning I took it) Although I've read of a 'CF MOTO' fix where you have to do a sequence of things and it supposedly sorts it but I can't remember which FB page I saw it on
I’ve got no doubt that this will be a brilliant bike when it works but my concern from other Chinese brands is failure rate and parts availability. No use having a cheap bike if you end up with it in the dealer every 5 minutes for weeks at a time. Fingers crossed they’re getting it right. The major manufacturers could do with a kick in the backside. Their cheap motorbikes aren’t so cheap anymore. I guessed £9500. Wasn’t far off! A Transalp might be Honda’s competitor?
The weight seems like a bit of an issue? Yes I know it's cheap, but it weighs more than an R1300GS? And on top of that, it looks like the weight is up high, compared to the boxers. But the price...
would be good to know the insurance group and what its like for the pilion (none of you give this information). I would consider this bike, looks good.
Insurance is sooo different for everyone so only real way to know what it would be for you personally is to get a quote unfortunately. As for pillion, if I could have cloned myself for ya I would have 😁
Wish these Chinese bikes came out atleast a couple of years sooner, would be such a easier choice if the world's tensions weren't what they are right now. Voge is sadly nowhere to be seen where I live sadly, they seem like great bikes.
Is not only BMW that should be scared, if the car market serves as an example, is going to be a massacre.And it was the exorbitant prices of mainstream manufactures that resulted in this, they have completely open the door for the Chinese brands. In the end competition is always good for consumers.
Sorry, but I just need to point out that running the grips and the seat on the hottest settings would be masochism, not sadism. Sadism would be if your other half was on the back and you were doing it to hurt them. Otherwise the bike looks really good. Sadly the snow has started to fly here and I'm still procrastinating on moving my bike into the garage for another winter.
@@UsernameKate I understand that. I must apologize for my unrelenting pedantry. But liking pain is Masochism. Sadism is taking joy in inflicting pain on others. I'm from Alberta in Canada, so we're entering our deep freeze hibernation/wish we lived somewhere warmer part of the year. The wishing we lived somewhere with better roads like those you were riding on, is something we feel year round.
You have a great voice. I'd like to make one point. Chinese quality and reliability are evidenced by the fact that most of the consumer electronics on sale by Western brands are made in China. Think of Apple, the archetypal rip off company...designed in California (on Chinese made computers) manufactured in China. Look at DJI as a top Chinese company, no one can match it, so the USA ban it. Huawei was the same. Don't believe the BS that they are a security threat. Every single device capable of receiving or sending data of any sort is examined and approved by GCHQ in the UK and the FCC in the US. Expect some similar protectionist measures on Voge coming soon. BTW, if Boris hadn't succumbed to US pressure, 5G would have rolled out quicker, we'd now have an operational HS2 and cheaper electricity because of the Chinese nuclear power plants he cancelled.
Well I asked the dealer for a test ride but they got back to me then never bothered with the follow up call so they lost me at that point I will say maim dealer up north maybe they just don’t like a Southerner 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
People constantly bash on chinese bikes but they forget the japanese bikes werent good when they first came out. The difference between the jap companies and chinese companies is that Japan is fighting japanese companies for the best product which means they often forget its for the customer, meanwhile chinese companies work together, they might have different ways to use the techniques but they share everything under the idea of a rising tide.
A good and unbiased review from somebody who grew up with Beemers, and goes all soppy, and wobbly at the knees everytime she sees a KTM!
I downsized from a F800GS to the Voge 300 Rally, and have no regrets, brilliant motorcycle
Kate. Good honest review as usual. Seems like a cracking bike for the money. Makes a Bee em look a bit sick for all the money they cost. By the way you are far from incompetent in any shape or form. A great motorcyclist who presents some super vlogs. Keep at it coz thousands of us are pleased you do.
I am considering this bike , I'm 99% sold on the idea. Like you I have a 29 inseam, when I tried it in showroom it was way too high but I think with low seat & lowering kit it may well be right for me, I am 73 years old & just sold my 1200gsa. Thought it was time to downsize.
I'm a 70 year old and at 5ft8, a bit on the short side. I've just bought the 525, it seems exelent and, not too heavy.
Stunning bike regardless and for the money it's a huge WOW and a wonderful way into a quality ride that has all a rider could ever desire if they want the modern toys and frills - seriously you could ride this bike forever and be happy. In answer though, it's a hard NO, BMW buyers won't transfer to Voge in a million years - both BM and Voge know this, they have a great symbiotic relationship and it's refreshing to see the bike world changing in front of our eyes
What a completely honest and unbiased review, refreshing to see that. That is one huge amount of bike for the money.
I have a Voge 300 Rally which is a fab bike, great suspension, unbelievable economy. I've had dozens of bikes and love my Voge.
Really appreciate the seat height/parking demonstration Kate! Would love to see that in yours and other's reviews. Constantly use your videos as a reference (we're about the same height), and usually fast scroll to if you've included the mounting/stopping in traffic part. Still a newbie myself, so the seat height still matters some.
Hope it'll be something you'll include in future videos, hope more reviewers catch on.
Wish you all the best, ride safe!
I'm not an adventure bike kind of bloke but this one is spectacular value. Triumph and BMW' are very pricey and for those of us who don't want to take out a second mortgage to buy a bike will find this much more palatable. Those 20 zones really are an affront to your senses.
Glad you're back and healthy Kate 😊
I watched about six videos on this bike, and I enjoyed yours the most, Kate. Great job, as always.
at least this voge has a heated saddle and heated grips unlike the 525dsx you tested eariler this year , nice to see you back . plus spot lights
This is a great video and review Kate - as always
Seems to be a serious, capable bike, that also seems to be well put together with quality suspension and brakes. It is obviously also well thought through design wise to look appealing. You are in your right element when reviewing bikes. Nice listening to you, and your experience from many different bikes really shines through 😊.
I took a gamble with the CF Moto 3yrs with the 650 MT. And I love it . I've done over 13,000 miles touring Ireland Scotland & Wales. And she's never let me down No issues whatsoever. I took the first test ride of the Voge 900 in northern Ireland and have to say wow amazing Tec and a fantastic bike . Unlike CF Moto . They seem to be having trouble with distributing the bikes.northern Ireland only has 2 bikes and I'm told there's No More until next year? So what does this mean for parts servicing warranty? That said the bike looks feels & ride brilliantly. Not one issue or bad point on the test ride other than setting everything to my own linking and feel. It's better than the new triumph Tiger 900. And dare I say the CF Moto 800 explorer.-
Good video Kate. Hope you are fully well now.
I am thanks, a few lifestyle changes will hopefully keep the beast at bay.
Great review Kate, I had the 500DSX and got shut of it after a year as the seat was dire. A few observations; if it comes with full boxes (like the 500 did), then it needs a 20L tank to give it a a 200+ range, I recall the TPMS and external temp gauge were pretty inaccurate on the 500 and the paint finish on the crash bars wasn't great - not sure if that's the same on the 900? The switches don't look as good as the Brand Leaders and the front brake master cylinder looks like they took it off a moped. The TFT would benefit from being bigger and really extend the warranty for at least 3yrs. The resale prices of Voge's is not great and insurance is higher than other models (my 500 cost more than my 1800 Suzuki). Overall they are good bikes, certainly for the money, but need to refine the offering somewhat. Finally a GS beater? - price yes but refinement - hmmm.
You really are a damn good reviewer! Everything we would want to know plus more. Thank you.
It sounds like a bike that could put the cat among the pigeons doesn't it. Great looker, high quality components, throwing the full accessory catalogue at it as standard. Could be a winner 👍
No, you're not late with this Voge, as I always wait for your reviews before watching one elsewhere. I like the gold rims with this colour choice (unusual for me), the grip guards and tempomat, plus the tidy cockpit. The bike actually looks good overall, especially looking at it face on, but it doesn't really stand out against the many others in this catogory (except the KTMs). The biggest draw is (well for me) the price and all you get for it. I do wonder though how it will hold it's price as a used bike, and how good the overall finish and workmanship on it is.
Having said all that, i'm not really into this catagory, although I do enjoy the occasional ride on an adventure tourer, so you've done enough to make me ask myself....., where is my next Voge dealership?
Great review Kate! Very interesting bike. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
Great video Kate. You always give a great review on the bike you are riding. Thank you. Glad the heated seat works well and grips too.😊
Certainly something to give a lot of manufacturers sleepless nights 🤔. For me though a bit on the heavy side 😞. In fact, as from yesterday I became the proud owner of Voge DS525X! I've been up to the Yorkshire dales today, Settle,Hawes, Tan Hill Inn and back home via Devils Bridge, the bike seems exelent 🤞, just as you found on the 900, a bit lumpy at low revs/speed but for 6k I can live with that. In all, an exelent piece of kit 👍🏍.
Its funny because I didn't experience anything but a super smooth ride on the DS525X, but on this, it's throttle is noticeable but manageable. strange!
Great review.
You can update the fuelling via a download to your phone and then link to wifi hotspot on bike.
Early bikes shipped with version 4.1.
My bike arrived this week with 4.3 and I’ve just updated it to 4.4 and the surging is much reduced.
This had the 4.4 update the morning I rode it.
@@UsernameKate ah ok.
I only got my bike yesterday and did about 20 miles.
Updated from 4.3 to 4.4 this afternoon and have literally ridden a few miles but it certainly seems smoother with 4.4.
But the fact you can update yourself via an android phone should bring easy further improvements .
Let’s be honest, the Voge isn’t as polished as the 850/900GS …..BUT it’s half the price for 90% as good.
I’d rather pay what I did and have the Voge with a few minor niggles such as occasional surging at very low revs, and a crap indicator switch than pay DOUBLE for a BMW that is nearly identical from the waist down .
A good review Mrs ! You do make me chuckle 😉
Lovely bike! Seems to be excellent value for the money. Fantastic review as always!
Marnin Kate. Glad you've done a review on Voge 900. Hopefully getting a test ride on one soon. 🤙👍 outtakes 😊 great singing 🎶 👌
Honda could certainly take some inspiration from the look of this display - it’s far nicer than their ‘designed by an engineer’ layouts.
Another belting review kate. Defo the reviewer to rely on you mate 👍
Big praise from you!! Appreciate it so much!
Great review as always.
Mega value for money that.
Took delivery of mine on Monday been out twice very impressed with the ride. Throttle is snappy at low speed but manageable. Very heavy to move about but will get used to it.
Still haven't worked out how to use the App and find a manual but will get there.
Buy one if your in the market.
Another great video Kate, keep it up 👍
Hey crocodile. Great video. I've got one on order. Hopefully get it in March.
Fantastic spec. , and you can't argue with the price. Sorry, but I'll be sticking with Japanese reliability. It's too early for Chinese manufacturers to challenge the Japanese yet in this respect.
I really like this, if I didn’t already have the BMW f850 gs id be looking to get one.
You r probably one the few tuber worth watching
Great vlog as usual….can I ask what mount you are using for your phone / nav … I see you have a quad lock on the right hand side of your bars ..
That quadlock wasn't mine. It was a kd motorcycles staff member. I use peak design 😊
Thanks, even if I don't like Chinese bikes, without any particular reason...it is just me 😊. I must give credit to this machine. If Chinese are now this good I'm wondering how it is going to be in a few years from now. Regards from Serbia 🇷🇸
Thanks for the comprehensive review,, I'm interested at this bike just i want to ask you is it smooth operating how is the vibration at the handle bar and it's stability at the high speed?,, thanks.
After 1 hour 20 of *ahem* motorway speeds, when I pulled up, I did feel a slight tingle in my hands, but not as bad as some where I will tap the tank with my fingers after a ride and it feels like I have springs in my finger tips! It wore off pretty instantly. The country lane stuff, my hands didn't tingle afterwards. High speed stability is very good, no issues with that.
Dam that bike looks huge! 😲
Interesting review. Just wondering - is the handle bar switch gear illuminated for night riding?
Switch gear isn't back lit
Brilliant Real Review Kate !! keep it up yeh bike is vale foe money wow 🤗🤗🤗
Hi Kate. Firstly Great video and welcome to my part of the world. You mention the surging at low speed. Do you think it was because you were in sport mode? And did you try it at low speed in any other mode? Cheers
Just the same in other modes :)
I find the same with our nc1100 blood bike. Not a fan of that either. Lovely bike and great value
Is a GS by any other name less sweet ?
twould appear not.
Nice review Kate. Great looking bike.
Hi Kate Wonderful review another motorcycle with out the brand premium price tag. Exceptional value compared to a lot of the established brands.
Great reviews, keep up the good work, 👍🇦🇺
Chinese bikes have come on leaps and bounds these last few years and this one looks like a quality machine but i have reservations about the hi-tech electrical components and I'm not a fan of keyless ignition. If it goes wrong in a few years it will be a nightmare and doesn't have the dealership support of an equivalent Japanese or German bike. Nevertheless it looks fantastic and thanks for another comprehensive video, Kate.
BMW have been making keyless forever and are pretty much the most experienced out there i think, we have never had an issue in any of our cars using it - same system being used here i expect, i like keys but i would not worry about this one bit
Yup... There's a reason why Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki are BY FAR the most reliable and there's a reason why Tenere is the most popular adventure bike for 6 years straight now. No bullsh*t tech means there's nothing to break down, meaning you can ride the bike 24/7 for a year straight and nothing will break down or wear down and you will have to do absolutely nothing besides change oil, filters and tires.
There's a reason why Yamaha has only 11% failure rate and BMW, Ducati, KTM, Triumph and other well over 40% (Yes, over 40%, that's not a typo and those are official statistics!) The last thing I want when on a month long trip, is to have my bike break down or have something fail and have to constantly be under stress and worry about whether or not my bike will blow up in the middle of nowhere...
@nogerboher5266 Spot on. Bikes with too many electronics are a recipe for disaster and German bikes seem to suffer from electrical gremlins after a few years. Keeping it simple with the minimum of rider aids is my philosophy. The Chinese bike that Kate reviewed would give me the Heebie-jeebies.
@@Apollo949 Yup, yup... A couple that I met in Austria at Grosglockner, the older gent had 640,000+km on his Tenere and his wife has an old 2002 VStrom with 450,000+km. They said that they did TWO around the world trips on those bikes with zero issues. TWO! I thought that he was joking at first! LOL!
I've also seen hundreds of other people all over the internet, forums and here on TH-cam, posting their Yamahas, Suzukis and Hondas with numbers on their clocks quite deep into those six digits... And not only did they have six digit mileages, they were all with zero issues too... That's why I prefer low tech bikes, there is almost nothing that can break and even if something does break, there's a 99% chance that it can be easily fixed on the spot provided you know how to do it and have the tools with you (which you always should!)
Hi Kate, great review of both a good looking bike with spec and price to have many thinking.....
HHmmmm 15-20+K for top brands ?...
.This is a bit off base, but can I ask what mic you use as your audio is crystal clear...
I get part of that is you have a projective voice....
Thanks for sharing your take on this new push for China....👍🥃
Great review - what route did you take from Abergele ?
Google maps - Abergele - Llanfair Talhaiarn, Abergele - Llansannan, Denbigh - Sportsman's Arms, Denbigh LL16 5SP - Pentrefoelas, Betws-y-Coed - Cwm Cynfal viewpoint, B4391, Blaenau Ffestiniog LL41 4PT
@@UsernameKate Thanks Kate
Amazing for the price 👍
There have been other comments online about the centre stand being difficult to deploy from underneath the swinging arm. Did you find this? Also, that the tins are a bit difficult to get on and off?
I didn't use the centre stand whilst I had it and when I got this, it didn't come with the boxes on I'm afraid 👎
Awesome video! Great review. You hit all the points of interest. I don't get it though. From BMW's perspective as far as a relationship in production and competition. It looks like a GS, tank angle and geometry. At what ? Almost half the price and all the features. I suppose the only thing you are giving up with the Voge is cool factor. I would definitely be interested in this bike. Beautiful bike for sure. Best!
Great review on a bargain bike that does look the business.
I’m not saying that a Chinese company would steal intellectual property ( thought I would put that disclaimer in as I don’t want the CCP coming around and kicking in my back door ) but a what point do European manufactures realise that outsourcing manufacturing to China could be destroying there own brand?
Excellent review, it looks a proper bargain
My only real concern with Chinese bikes these days is rust resistance - I like to ride in all weathers, and also like my bikes to continue to look nice after a few years. Can't knock the value for money, though.
Well for the dosh you cant go wrong really can you?
I will definitely be looking one up at the MCL!
I was going to take a look ,looked at least a dozen videos been good overall, and the comments pretty good,
Have to agree what it's offering is brilliant, however one individual had the swing arm lose another fueling issues took it back had it remapped at the dealer new upgrade free of charge and its doing the same thing again snatchy throttle, , hopefully that been solved with the upgrade,
I'd buy a Triumph but even they have had a few issues,
I have looked at the BMW 850 and that has had few problems so how reliable is this going to be long term if the engine is the same.
Nice too see your review on this bike 😊
Hi Kate, great review! Giving TMF a run for his money that’s for sure! 😊 Can you confirm the payload in kg on this bike please? I’ll be booking a test ride in the near future based on your review 👍
Hats off, to the Chinese; for what they've put together at that price. It's a nice machine ✌️
Hi Kate,
Excellent review as always thanks. I wonder whether the surging issue at low speed sorts itself out with the latest ECU mod. Any idea what update it had on it?
Anyway, I've booked a test ride next week at Bob Minion, Derby. We'll see how it goes.
Thanks again, Lee
Its not an ECU mod. It's just a display update (this had had it the morning I took it) Although I've read of a 'CF MOTO' fix where you have to do a sequence of things and it supposedly sorts it but I can't remember which FB page I saw it on
Much less surging with latest 4.4 software. Updated mine from 4.3 today.
I didn't ride it prior to the 4.4 so cant comment on if it made a difference I'm afraid.
We are coming to bike show on Sunday, we will come and see you x
I'm shocked, that is a complelling package. I lvoe that it comes with a dashcam.
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Good vid
I’ve got no doubt that this will be a brilliant bike when it works but my concern from other Chinese brands is failure rate and parts availability. No use having a cheap bike if you end up with it in the dealer every 5 minutes for weeks at a time. Fingers crossed they’re getting it right. The major manufacturers could do with a kick in the backside. Their cheap motorbikes aren’t so cheap anymore.
I guessed £9500. Wasn’t far off!
A Transalp might be Honda’s competitor?
I wonder why we don't get the DS900X in Belgium
Another great video Kate avoid surging don't go to Wales,only joking Kate keep up the good work thanks.
The weight seems like a bit of an issue? Yes I know it's cheap, but it weighs more than an R1300GS? And on top of that, it looks like the weight is up high, compared to the boxers. But the price...
So is it coming to the usa?
It's basically f850 gsa rendered with triumph headlight, KTM switch buttons, shockers & wheels from Africa twin 😂
basically!!
super eazy to ride , can you make a U turn on the road on the voge ds 900 x ???
Yes, i had to u turn it on a farm before i started filming. Easy to manage and control.
Bamboozled means to be made a fool or deceived, so idk if you wanna say that about its price
I always thought of it as another phrase for flabbergasted. Everyday is a school day eh!
I'm seriously thinking of trading the harley in for one kate
test ride one for sure!
Hello there from Portugal. I ordered one on june and is not available till February. Sold out this year.
would be good to know the insurance group and what its like for the pilion (none of you give this information). I would consider this bike, looks good.
Insurance is sooo different for everyone so only real way to know what it would be for you personally is to get a quote unfortunately. As for pillion, if I could have cloned myself for ya I would have 😁
It may not trump the BMW but it seems it may make some waves for the price.
For the price it's great value for money, Just wait until the Chinese start building Boxer twins😬😁
Every bike manufacturer should be scared
Wish these Chinese bikes came out atleast a couple of years sooner, would be such a easier choice if the world's tensions weren't what they are right now.
Voge is sadly nowhere to be seen where I live sadly, they seem like great bikes.
You get this bike through other people suffering
Maybe a factory visit is on the cards!
Is not only BMW that should be scared, if the car market serves as an example, is going to be a massacre.And it was the exorbitant prices of mainstream manufactures that resulted in this, they have completely open the door for the Chinese brands. In the end competition is always good for consumers.
It won't be good for customers if all we have is Chinese bikes and cars.
@@chrishart8548 No it wont, I don't know about you, but where I live is dominate by Germany, and you are right, has not been good for customers.
Sorry, but I just need to point out that running the grips and the seat on the hottest settings would be masochism, not sadism. Sadism would be if your other half was on the back and you were doing it to hurt them. Otherwise the bike looks really good. Sadly the snow has started to fly here and I'm still procrastinating on moving my bike into the garage for another winter.
It was just a lil joke about liking pain, it wasn't meant to be that deep 🤣🤣 uh not snow! What part of the world are you from?
@@UsernameKate I understand that. I must apologize for my unrelenting pedantry. But liking pain is Masochism. Sadism is taking joy in inflicting pain on others. I'm from Alberta in Canada, so we're entering our deep freeze hibernation/wish we lived somewhere warmer part of the year. The wishing we lived somewhere with better roads like those you were riding on, is something we feel year round.
You take a nice line, it's noticeable...
Thank you!
You have a great voice. I'd like to make one point. Chinese quality and reliability are evidenced by the fact that most of the consumer electronics on sale by Western brands are made in China. Think of Apple, the archetypal rip off company...designed in California (on Chinese made computers) manufactured in China. Look at DJI as a top Chinese company, no one can match it, so the USA ban it. Huawei was the same. Don't believe the BS that they are a security threat. Every single device capable of receiving or sending data of any sort is examined and approved by GCHQ in the UK and the FCC in the US. Expect some similar protectionist measures on Voge coming soon. BTW, if Boris hadn't succumbed to US pressure, 5G would have rolled out quicker, we'd now have an operational HS2 and cheaper electricity because of the Chinese nuclear power plants he cancelled.
Well I asked the dealer for a test ride but they got back to me then never bothered with the follow up call so they lost me at that point I will say maim dealer up north maybe they just don’t like a Southerner 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
30Kg lighter wouldve been nice :)
I suspect the residual values would be poor
How to the Chinese make a bike like this for a complete package at the price ??????????
Slave labour of course just like the solar panels they produce.
Very, very true
so no one is gonna talk about some parts of it looks like it came from a bmw f850 or 750?? and the engine too
Yea, there are a LOT of crossover parts. You put this and an F850gs side by side and your jaw will drop.
lol
Chinese. End of Story.
Ds 800 not 900. It has 790 cam melting KTM motor . Wake up girl! 🆒😎🤟🏻
😮 Austrian butter cams? 😂 not desirable at any price...
No it’s the BMW engine 895cc
Different engine so maybe you should 'wake up boy' haha! :P
😂 I like it but I don't want to pay the 100% tariff tax on it here in the USA 🏁 I'm glad Trump is the president. Don't get me wrong...
American politics is a soap opera for the rest of the world 😂😂, keep it up fantastic entertainment.
Good luck exporting to China
Let's see if you're glad in a few years. American's are truly the dumbest people on earth electing that absolute clown not once but twice!
now now
People constantly bash on chinese bikes but they forget the japanese bikes werent good when they first came out. The difference between the jap companies and chinese companies is that Japan is fighting japanese companies for the best product which means they often forget its for the customer, meanwhile chinese companies work together, they might have different ways to use the techniques but they share everything under the idea of a rising tide.
I think you're confusing sadism & masochism with the heated grips & seat.....