Yeah Gen V (especially B2W2) are my favourite games in the series. I hope to the TPCi gods that the remakes are done justice. I would personally love for there to be both a PLA style game and then also a B3W3 sequel game that took place in unova following the characters from blueberry academy but I'll expand more on that in my next video.
@@EmilForsberg_GRYBO ok but you have to be a Sociopath to prefer the OG Diamond and Pearl (which are an absolute pain to go through and are super slow) over BDSP BDSP is mediocre but The OG Diamond and Pearl are just BAD
@@SMCwasTaken i honestly do not agree, i would rather play the original games as they're actually somewhat balanced as you're not overleveled in every encounter because of that stupid forced exp share
Nice video dude! And totally agree that they set the bar with heartgold/soulsilver and they dont live up to that standard anymore lol. I really hope they dont disappoint next week, but Im pretty sure they will
Yeah, Kris is the real Johto female player character. Lyra, aka Mario Girl, sucks. Same thing with the "Ethan" name BS. No, his name is *Gold* and you're not going to retcon ten years of that away in a remake.
BDSP wasnt just exactly the same layout. It was THE SAME GAME. Not just "hey we remade this" no, they literally ported the DS game to switch with new graphics. The old DP glitches still work in BDSP. It is THE SAME GAME with a graphics patch and content removed. And you get the pleasure of paying $80 for each version.
It would be sick if the BW remakes had something similar to fire emblem on 3ds, where the roaming world was in HD-2D art style, and then for the wild encounters it zooms into modern graphics for battles 🧠💡
There was a guy called ulone who was working on an HD2D remake of platinum in the Unity3D engine which looked absolutely awesome. Unfortunately, sometime last year he took down his channel and his twitter and Reddit are dead. Hoping one day he picks it up again.
Great overview of what made the old remakes exciting, and why the new ones fall short. For me it's always been the little things: the fame checker in FR/LG was a great way to add little bits of info to flesh out the world, and reward exploration at the same time! And I still remember when they first showed off how pokemon follow behind you in HG/SS. My friends and I were screaming in excitement. Laying it on too thick with the ur mom stuff, though. I haven't heard so many of those strung together in such a short amount of time since middle school.
Heya man! I really enjoyed the video! I can't wait to see more from you! And lets both take a moment of silence to pray to Arceus that the Black and White remakes and their sequels aren't rushed out, unfinished, or handed off to ilca to develop them... My favorite mainline game is definitely pokemon White 2, so im really hoping they don't half-ass it... personally Im really hoping that no mainline games are announced this pokemon day though with the announcement that the Empire state building will be lighting up pokemon colors on pokemon day things aren't looking very good...
Hey man, glad you enjoyed the video! I'm currently editing a video that will hopefully hopium pill some people on the future of the franchise but the more time they give gamefreak or whoever is developing the next mainline the better. I think there is definitely going to be a B team announcement for this year but maybe they also do a 2025 mainline teaser or something.
@PATRICKurmom Yeah, I completely agree! Personally, I'd like to see some of the spinoffs not developed by game freak return such as Pokémon conquest, Pokémon mystery dungeon, and poken tournament. That way, if they really don't want to change their release, then they can just fill the gaps with spinoffs primarily made by different developers! Unfortunately, I have a strong feeling that they're gonna ignore most of Black and White 2, and it's very sad since I know damn well that the pwt isn't getting remastered... The same goes for the Pokestar Studios and the White treehollow/Black Tower... I think probably the worst thing they could possibly do is pull a bdsp and pretend the sequels never existed with the protagonists being made into an early purchase bonus outfit... but for know, yeah, let's try to stay optimistic!
Hot take. I’m having fun playing Pokemon Sword for the first time and Pokemon Scarlet looks like it’ll be a fun experience too cause I loved Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is a step in the right direction for this series
I think maybe gamefreak is a little bit bitter over the fact that they went so overboard with making gen 4 and gen 5 good but fans still fell off of the series. Fans just got older and outgrew Pokémon. They used to make the games mature with their fans as they grew up. Pokémon colosseum took place in this rough, gritty region. The type of environment you would expect to see in something like cowboy bebop rather than Pokémon. Crime syndicates ruled over the orre region and you played as a much older character than your typical Pokémon protagonist. He goes around stealing people’s Pokémon after he’s defected from his own crime syndicate. Pokémon would never take a risk making a game like that again and game freak has even said they’ll never make a remake or rerelease Pokémon colosseum. They went on to start to make more complex and evil teams and plot lines like team plasma or team galactic. Pokémon black and white even had you playing as an older protagonist than previous games. To my understanding, black and white was where fans fell off of the series, despite that they were such well crafted games. I love omega ruby and alpha sapphire but they are markedly less mature than previous remakes like soul silver or heart gold. Gen 6 remakes are still really good games but they were much easier than the gen 3 or gen 4 remakes. I think that’s when they stopped making the games harder and more mature. They started to pander to a younger audience because it is a game for a younger audience after all. That’s why Pokémon has made a big return even though the games are much, much worse than they used to be. If it is bitterness on game freak’s part then that’s just sad. They should ask the original fanbase that grew up with the early games what they want because they are the ones that make Pokémon as successful as it is. I still like Pokémon but it’s hard to believe game freak isn’t aware of the well deserved criticism they get. I feel like they are self aware but see their franchise as a business rather than a creative venture like Satoshi Tajiri originally envisioned. It happens when things get big the way Pokémon did and I think that’s why satoshi’s involvement has diminished over time. It’s kind of sad but hey, I’m just glad they’re still around making games. Pokémon has always been a big part of our lives.
Yeah B2W2 really seemed like the tipping point for the descent back to child pandering. I feel with the newer titles I always have to play the game with a translation layer in my head. Something like 'oh I can understand how a kid would find this cool.' Or something like that. Then again, I was a kid when I did my first play throughs of gen IV/V - so maybe I'm a little more biased by nostalgia than I'd like to admit.
Another HUGE thing to mention about the remakes is how they were part of their current gen fire red/ leaf green players could battle and trade with S/R/E players HG/SS players can battle and trade with D/P/P players and the same goes to OR/AS players with X/Y
honestly omega Ruby and Alpha sapphire were awesome in my opinion, but brilliant diamond and shining pearl were not. being visually impaired when they added the overworld encounters it broke the game for someone like myself.
I’m also visually impaired, I’m completely blind. Never owned a switch but I don’t really see a good reason to get one, Even just hearing the rips of the soundtrack from the current games makes me not wanna play them. On the other hand, I just ordered a New 2DS XL and will probably play through generation one through seven on it.
Regading Unova remakes, they just need to upgrade to at least ORAS art style with HD graphics (already proven possible by emulators) and they would have a home run.
Pokemon remakes had soul and were so cool and made those older gens so cool like hoenn for example they did more than give it better graphics,they added gen 6 features, national dex,better postgame,better story and made the characters way better and it looked very good like gen 6 for the console it was on! Gen 4 they could have made it look like gen 8,add dynamax,use the platinum dex since the national dex would be too much and image if the champion cythea used g-max,that would have been so cool but inside we got gen 4 diamond and pearl,no changes and just a chibi style,nothing else why and they could have saved it for 2023, legends first then gen 4 remakes but they got greedy sadly...
I'll be honest: Besides Gold and Silver, I've disliked every even-numbered generation Pokemon has done, for a myriad of reasons. I really disliked gen 4, Diamond and Pearl, at the time and it almost made me quit Pokemon. Sinnoh is a _slog_ of a region and I barely could make it through Pearl version. But HeartGold and SoulSilver is why I stuck with the franchise up until gen 8 (although I skipped X and Y and to this day, have not played it and don't want to.) HGSS are not perfect by a long shot, and there's a lot of small, annoying things they do in the game that went unchanged from the originals or made worse (the horrendous simplified PC interface, no grind spots, wild Pokemon still at super-low levels, terrible Disney Princess soundtrack for music, TMs locked behind that horrendously *awful* Voltorb Flip game and no way to buy coins to unlock them like you could with the Game Corner, you need a f*cking HM Slave with Rock Climb to fight Red now, "Ethan" retconning Gold, Lyra retconning Kris, etc.) However, HGSS are still the best Pokemon games _Game Freak_ has ever made. They're a 9 out of 10, I'd say. While ROM Hacks like FireRed Team Rocket Edition, Pokemon Clover, Pokemon Uranium, or even Pokemon MindCrystal, have done far better jobs than Game Freak have done, I'd still call HGSS the G.O.A.T of official releases, even if they have room for improvement. And Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl? They are the reason I'll never buy another official Pokemon release ever again. Those games are abysmal. Literally the worst features of the original games, and the modern games, all in one. That mandatory Exp. Share bullsh*t is what pisses me off the most; the games are unplayable for me with that trash tacked onto it, and I'm not going to constantly swap out my teams because they become over-leveled too quickly and I have no way to turn off a feature I rarely ever even used in gen 7. While I still play gen 7 and ROM Hacks, I'll never support official Pokemon games again after BDSP and I already fell out of love with Pokemon when I saw how horrible Sword and Shield were.
Overly edited. Throw away a handful of the memes and we're talking. it Okay, no. I'm just nitpicking. You do you. I'd heard that HG/SS isn't even a good remake, at least in terms of gameplay. Everything else about HG/SS is such an improvement over the original, so I'm curious about this blemish on an otherwise great remake. ...that remark about Petrel made me choke on my drink. That was funny. Oh yeah, Did You Know Gaming covered the "no Kris in HGSS" thing in their video about HGSS. Apparently, the art director already made his own design without even seeing Ken Sugimori's artwork of Kris. He ended up making Lyra a separate character as a result.
I mean Pokemon gameplay is Pokemon gameplay. It's not the most engaging thing in the world but I tend to hear people play for vibes/nostalgia and world building rather than the actual gameplay. Like we are talking pre-generational battle gimmicks. It was easily the best Pokemon game in terms of gameplay for it's time but it's still just pressing A so take that as you will.
Bro PLEASE stop with the your mom jokes. Every video I’ve seen from you could be watchable but the your mom joke every 14 seconds every single video is physically painful because of how outdated and cringe that overused joke is and the fact that a joke doesn’t land 42 times in a row. It just shows lazy comedy with the mask of “irony”. I’m not trying to hate because I actually do want to watch these videos but it’s just painful and thought I’d tell you.
@@PATRICKurmom not cringe opinion. Cringe opinion is people calling my opinion cringe because I didn't jump on the "hate BDSP" bandwagon. I did enjoy BDSP since it isn't slow and had quality of life improvements that DP/Platinum didn't have.
@@JamieVideoGamer so HGSS didn't change enough, ORAS changed too much, but BDSP was the best because it changed virtually nothing worth mentioning? This is either the lowest tier bait or you were fibbing when ticking 13+ when signing up for you TH-cam account.
For those of you who don't get the joke, the joystick is a metaphor for penis.
I need a visual representation.
It's not funny
That was really nice of my mom to suggest that you make a video about Pokémon remakes for me
Hard to say no when she's that hot
It’s Mum
I’m a HUGE gen 5 stan, and I’m a afraid of the remakes I & others don’t want a 1:1 remaster like BdSp 😭
Yeah Gen V (especially B2W2) are my favourite games in the series. I hope to the TPCi gods that the remakes are done justice. I would personally love for there to be both a PLA style game and then also a B3W3 sequel game that took place in unova following the characters from blueberry academy but I'll expand more on that in my next video.
More like a 0.5:1 remake Bd and Sp are in many aspects just a worse version of the original games, especially compared to Platinum
@@EmilForsberg_GRYBO ok but you have to be a Sociopath to prefer the OG Diamond and Pearl (which are an absolute pain to go through and are super slow) over BDSP
BDSP is mediocre but The OG Diamond and Pearl are just BAD
@@SMCwasTaken i honestly do not agree, i would rather play the original games as they're actually somewhat balanced as you're not overleveled in every encounter because of that stupid forced exp share
Nice video dude! And totally agree that they set the bar with heartgold/soulsilver and they dont live up to that standard anymore lol. I really hope they dont disappoint next week, but Im pretty sure they will
The DS really was Pokémon's hay day.
Yeah it's weird that they didn't include Kris I liked her design better. It felt more 90's
That's probably why they didn't include her
Yeah, Kris is the real Johto female player character. Lyra, aka Mario Girl, sucks.
Same thing with the "Ethan" name BS. No, his name is *Gold* and you're not going to retcon ten years of that away in a remake.
BDSP wasnt just exactly the same layout. It was THE SAME GAME. Not just "hey we remade this" no, they literally ported the DS game to switch with new graphics. The old DP glitches still work in BDSP. It is THE SAME GAME with a graphics patch and content removed. And you get the pleasure of paying $80 for each version.
It would be sick if the BW remakes had something similar to fire emblem on 3ds, where the roaming world was in HD-2D art style, and then for the wild encounters it zooms into modern graphics for battles 🧠💡
There was a guy called ulone who was working on an HD2D remake of platinum in the Unity3D engine which looked absolutely awesome. Unfortunately, sometime last year he took down his channel and his twitter and Reddit are dead. Hoping one day he picks it up again.
This lone video got me to be your 100th subscriber 😎
HGSS supremacy!!!
Great overview of what made the old remakes exciting, and why the new ones fall short. For me it's always been the little things: the fame checker in FR/LG was a great way to add little bits of info to flesh out the world, and reward exploration at the same time! And I still remember when they first showed off how pokemon follow behind you in HG/SS. My friends and I were screaming in excitement.
Laying it on too thick with the ur mom stuff, though. I haven't heard so many of those strung together in such a short amount of time since middle school.
Ur mom's laying it on too thick. Gottem. Thanks for the kind words though, appreciate it.
Love this iconic new channel
I love your style of videos it’s different from other TH-camrs that make Pokemon vids
Heya man! I really enjoyed the video! I can't wait to see more from you! And lets both take a moment of silence to pray to Arceus that the Black and White remakes and their sequels aren't rushed out, unfinished, or handed off to ilca to develop them... My favorite mainline game is definitely pokemon White 2, so im really hoping they don't half-ass it... personally Im really hoping that no mainline games are announced this pokemon day though with the announcement that the Empire state building will be lighting up pokemon colors on pokemon day things aren't looking very good...
Hey man, glad you enjoyed the video! I'm currently editing a video that will hopefully hopium pill some people on the future of the franchise but the more time they give gamefreak or whoever is developing the next mainline the better. I think there is definitely going to be a B team announcement for this year but maybe they also do a 2025 mainline teaser or something.
@PATRICKurmom Yeah, I completely agree! Personally, I'd like to see some of the spinoffs not developed by game freak return such as Pokémon conquest, Pokémon mystery dungeon, and poken tournament. That way, if they really don't want to change their release, then they can just fill the gaps with spinoffs primarily made by different developers! Unfortunately, I have a strong feeling that they're gonna ignore most of Black and White 2, and it's very sad since I know damn well that the pwt isn't getting remastered... The same goes for the Pokestar Studios and the White treehollow/Black Tower...
I think probably the worst thing they could possibly do is pull a bdsp and pretend the sequels never existed with the protagonists being made into an early purchase bonus outfit... but for know, yeah, let's try to stay optimistic!
Hot take. I’m having fun playing Pokemon Sword for the first time and Pokemon Scarlet looks like it’ll be a fun experience too cause I loved Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is a step in the right direction for this series
I think maybe gamefreak is a little bit bitter over the fact that they went so overboard with making gen 4 and gen 5 good but fans still fell off of the series. Fans just got older and outgrew Pokémon. They used to make the games mature with their fans as they grew up. Pokémon colosseum took place in this rough, gritty region. The type of environment you would expect to see in something like cowboy bebop rather than Pokémon. Crime syndicates ruled over the orre region and you played as a much older character than your typical Pokémon protagonist. He goes around stealing people’s Pokémon after he’s defected from his own crime syndicate. Pokémon would never take a risk making a game like that again and game freak has even said they’ll never make a remake or rerelease Pokémon colosseum. They went on to start to make more complex and evil teams and plot lines like team plasma or team galactic. Pokémon black and white even had you playing as an older protagonist than previous games. To my understanding, black and white was where fans fell off of the series, despite that they were such well crafted games. I love omega ruby and alpha sapphire but they are markedly less mature than previous remakes like soul silver or heart gold. Gen 6 remakes are still really good games but they were much easier than the gen 3 or gen 4 remakes. I think that’s when they stopped making the games harder and more mature. They started to pander to a younger audience because it is a game for a younger audience after all. That’s why Pokémon has made a big return even though the games are much, much worse than they used to be. If it is bitterness on game freak’s part then that’s just sad. They should ask the original fanbase that grew up with the early games what they want because they are the ones that make Pokémon as successful as it is. I still like Pokémon but it’s hard to believe game freak isn’t aware of the well deserved criticism they get. I feel like they are self aware but see their franchise as a business rather than a creative venture like Satoshi Tajiri originally envisioned. It happens when things get big the way Pokémon did and I think that’s why satoshi’s involvement has diminished over time. It’s kind of sad but hey, I’m just glad they’re still around making games. Pokémon has always been a big part of our lives.
Yeah B2W2 really seemed like the tipping point for the descent back to child pandering. I feel with the newer titles I always have to play the game with a translation layer in my head. Something like 'oh I can understand how a kid would find this cool.' Or something like that. Then again, I was a kid when I did my first play throughs of gen IV/V - so maybe I'm a little more biased by nostalgia than I'd like to admit.
Gamefreak try not to overwork their devs challenge *IMPOSSIBLE*
Another HUGE thing to mention about the remakes is how they were part of their current gen
fire red/ leaf green players could battle and trade with S/R/E players
HG/SS players can battle and trade with D/P/P players
and the same goes to OR/AS players with X/Y
starting your youtube journey insulting my mother is a bold move.... youre now one of my favorite up and coming youtubers lmao
honestly omega Ruby and Alpha sapphire were awesome in my opinion, but brilliant diamond and shining pearl were not. being visually impaired when they added the overworld encounters it broke the game for someone like myself.
I’m also visually impaired, I’m completely blind. Never owned a switch but I don’t really see a good reason to get one, Even just hearing the rips of the soundtrack from the current games makes me not wanna play them. On the other hand, I just ordered a New 2DS XL and will probably play through generation one through seven on it.
@@stasprze1685 honestly sort and Shield were fine.
RAWWWWWWW NEW POKETUBER!!!!
Keep it up with the pokemon content boss
Great vid!
Regading Unova remakes, they just need to upgrade to at least ORAS art style with HD graphics (already proven possible by emulators) and they would have a home run.
Pokemon remakes had soul and were so cool and made those older gens so cool like hoenn for example they did more than give it better graphics,they added gen 6 features, national dex,better postgame,better story and made the characters way better and it looked very good like gen 6 for the console it was on!
Gen 4 they could have made it look like gen 8,add dynamax,use the platinum dex since the national dex would be too much and image if the champion cythea used g-max,that would have been so cool but inside we got gen 4 diamond and pearl,no changes and just a chibi style,nothing else why and they could have saved it for 2023, legends first then gen 4 remakes but they got greedy sadly...
Such a good Video
i kid you not as soon as the video started and you did the "your mom" bit i got a call from my mom 💀
Nice thumbnail
My mum didn’t request this video
Yes she did
I'll be honest: Besides Gold and Silver, I've disliked every even-numbered generation Pokemon has done, for a myriad of reasons. I really disliked gen 4, Diamond and Pearl, at the time and it almost made me quit Pokemon. Sinnoh is a _slog_ of a region and I barely could make it through Pearl version. But HeartGold and SoulSilver is why I stuck with the franchise up until gen 8 (although I skipped X and Y and to this day, have not played it and don't want to.)
HGSS are not perfect by a long shot, and there's a lot of small, annoying things they do in the game that went unchanged from the originals or made worse (the horrendous simplified PC interface, no grind spots, wild Pokemon still at super-low levels, terrible Disney Princess soundtrack for music, TMs locked behind that horrendously *awful* Voltorb Flip game and no way to buy coins to unlock them like you could with the Game Corner, you need a f*cking HM Slave with Rock Climb to fight Red now, "Ethan" retconning Gold, Lyra retconning Kris, etc.) However, HGSS are still the best Pokemon games _Game Freak_ has ever made. They're a 9 out of 10, I'd say. While ROM Hacks like FireRed Team Rocket Edition, Pokemon Clover, Pokemon Uranium, or even Pokemon MindCrystal, have done far better jobs than Game Freak have done, I'd still call HGSS the G.O.A.T of official releases, even if they have room for improvement.
And Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl? They are the reason I'll never buy another official Pokemon release ever again. Those games are abysmal. Literally the worst features of the original games, and the modern games, all in one. That mandatory Exp. Share bullsh*t is what pisses me off the most; the games are unplayable for me with that trash tacked onto it, and I'm not going to constantly swap out my teams because they become over-leveled too quickly and I have no way to turn off a feature I rarely ever even used in gen 7. While I still play gen 7 and ROM Hacks, I'll never support official Pokemon games again after BDSP and I already fell out of love with Pokemon when I saw how horrible Sword and Shield were.
ILCA developed the Miku app?
All is forgiven.
*helped develop. WHOOPIEDOOZIE
I want gen 5 look back. If B/W B2/W2 remakes won't be like Legends Arceus, or in old (gen 5) graphics, I won't buy em
Yeah that aesthetic is peak Pokémon.
Great video and quality but the "your mum" jokes got old fast
nice vide
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Overly edited. Throw away a handful of the memes and we're talking. it
Okay, no. I'm just nitpicking. You do you.
I'd heard that HG/SS isn't even a good remake, at least in terms of gameplay. Everything else about HG/SS is such an improvement over the original, so I'm curious about this blemish on an otherwise great remake.
...that remark about Petrel made me choke on my drink. That was funny.
Oh yeah, Did You Know Gaming covered the "no Kris in HGSS" thing in their video about HGSS. Apparently, the art director already made his own design without even seeing Ken Sugimori's artwork of Kris. He ended up making Lyra a separate character as a result.
I mean Pokemon gameplay is Pokemon gameplay. It's not the most engaging thing in the world but I tend to hear people play for vibes/nostalgia and world building rather than the actual gameplay. Like we are talking pre-generational battle gimmicks. It was easily the best Pokemon game in terms of gameplay for it's time but it's still just pressing A so take that as you will.
HGSS is bad game like orginal bad design bad lvl cap thrash pokedex bad wild pokemon is like wtf so no HGSs is not good game at all 😂
That's cool bro, but I'm with urmom rn
Bro PLEASE stop with the your mom jokes. Every video I’ve seen from you could be watchable but the your mom joke every 14 seconds every single video is physically painful because of how outdated and cringe that overused joke is and the fact that a joke doesn’t land 42 times in a row. It just shows lazy comedy with the mask of “irony”. I’m not trying to hate because I actually do want to watch these videos but it’s just painful and thought I’d tell you.
Unfortunately I can't reply to your comment rn cause I'm busy with urmom but I'll get back to you later
BDSP was the best remake in the franchise and i stand by that. HGSS was trash that didn't fix all the GS issues. ORAS changed and added too much.
Woah fringe opinion. Did you actually enjoy playing through bdsp or is it just a case of the others remakes were worse in your opinion?
@@PATRICKurmom not cringe opinion. Cringe opinion is people calling my opinion cringe because I didn't jump on the "hate BDSP" bandwagon. I did enjoy BDSP since it isn't slow and had quality of life improvements that DP/Platinum didn't have.
Fringe. Fringe not cringe lmao. Fringe meaning not many people hold it.
@@JamieVideoGamer so HGSS didn't change enough, ORAS changed too much, but BDSP was the best because it changed virtually nothing worth mentioning? This is either the lowest tier bait or you were fibbing when ticking 13+ when signing up for you TH-cam account.
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