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@@layne4376 You and people with similar sentiments have gotten too comfortable with manufacturers constantly trying to be the new fastest and most powerful competitor. It isn’t necessary though. This car is fast. It is a great drive. It doesn’t need to be a competitor for the fastest in class. It is not trying to be.
I picked up my WRX Limit (automatic) three weeks ago and I am loving it!!! Currently at 25 mpg, and climbing, about 80% highway averaging 75 mph in the morning and 65 mph to stop and go traffic on the way home. The Adaptive Cruise Control at highway speeds and stop and go highway traffic operates like exactly how I would drive it, so much better than my 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon and my wife's 2020 Toyota Highlander. Large trunk for its size, plenty of leg room in the back seats behind me (6' 1"). Test drove the GTi first and loved it, dealer wouldn't come down to where I need the payments to be (cheaper to buy it and lease it), so I went to Subaru across the street, drove it and left with it. No regrets. The black plastic is growing on me and I will be thankful for it in New England's winters.
I love driving my 23 it’s a lot of fun. Thanks for the honest review. And the aftermarket is right there for you to customize your wrx in many different ways.
Lol I spec'd mine nearly the same and had the same thoughts about the vortex generator. To compliment my wishful thinking a got the bigger trunk lip spoiler haha
Beating the piss out of mine, all city and averaging just shy of 21 mpg. I drove on the highway for 5 mins and it brought my average up nearly half a mpg
Should have bought the STI when you had the chance. More power, better suspension, LSD front and rear, legendary transmission, DCCD, wing, better looks, all for less money these are now.
I’m getting over 26 mpg in my custom tuned 2023 Premium over the past 2400 miles. Mostly highway and mixed driving, driven mildly 90% of the time. But I’m getting 19 psi boost when pushed!
Hey Dennis! The Canadian RS is exactly the same as the TR in the US. I didn't get briefed any further than that, so I can't comment on their product plans.
@@BrianMakse thank you. I watched your review again and then caught the parts where you said the RS in Canada is the same as the TR. So I removed that part of my comment, since I should have just paid closer attention. The TR seems more "track ready" than tuner. Anyways, thanks for all that you do and for setting me straight. Cheers once again sir!
@@BrianMakse I’ve never seen any marketing about the steering. My comment was based on daily use, helps me fit in more easily. Lovely car, just did my first snow drive yesterday. 😊
If the TR existed when I was looking for a car like this, I would have really considered it. It seems to solve my issues with the standard WRX. The biggest downside really is the fuel economy. Rated at something like 25 highway is rough for a car its size and power level.
Every car guy knows what a steering wheel is for you just at where you want and you can slide in and out of your car without moving your steering wheel. I don’t understand why Car guys don’t understand this or “” car guys otherwise I love your reviews.
Does it top your list of the German and other Japanese competition? I'd really like to see a retro rally version. Kind of like what Toyota did with the 4Runner. Is this a modern Lancia Delta Integrale?
3,400lbs+, not even 300hp (let’s remember a USA version 2000 WRX STI had 300hp standard), Brembo “upgrades” (a USA version 2000 WRX STI has had Brembo’s standard for over two decades), 0-60mph in 6s (above car mentioned did it in 4.8s in year 2000)… I’m just not sold. “You won’t believe the transformation Subaru just pulled off with this”. You’re right. I don’t believe it at all. For the price, this Subaru WRX TR is slow and showcases how old and outdated its tech is, and overpriced, more than anything else. I’m not really sure you hit the mark for your viewers here bud.
You aren't really paying attention to economic trends,, this makes me conclude that you're still living on someone else's dime. It also confuses me, like if you are going to be a stat nerd why aren't you applying that optic to inflation, and if you're pulling historical comparisons, why aren't you comparing the TR to a higher trim WRX instead of an STI. Ultimately, with inflation in mind, spending that extra 10k you'd be forced to pay for a Civic Type R or Corolla GR on aftermarket parts will get you well beyond any stock STIs that have ever existed. $53-55000 is what a stock STI would cost today everything considered. My TR is running 350/350, has great coilovers for street and track, all of the reliability mods, just bolt ons... STI transmission is mothballed for either the transmission dying or five years from now, whichever comes first, the FA24DIT beats the shit out of the EJ.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938someone with actual experience and real knowledge on the platform will just be ignored by the haters 😂 based off your last comment, your TR would blow the doors off of any STI mod for mod on a track. I’ve been screaming no STI because of inflation since the VB came out. People are finally catching up lol
They dyno the same tho just like the vb dynos higher hp than the gr corolla stated hp isn't anything an this get way better fuel economy than any sti I've owned an pick up hp super easy mine makes 368 to the wheels with intake intercooler an intermediate pipe running 21psi
Other market versions of the TR is much cheaper , the USA spec TR have useless spec add on for it like heater seats and the high end sound system. Which in the other market don’t have it and is way better in pricing . So you guys can blame USA Subaru for spec the TR wrong . Without heater seats and high end sound systems would be in the 37-8k
As much as price is part of the conversation, this thing is so unique and full of character relative to any comparables that it justifies the price they ask.
43000 is what a Base STI would cost in 2024. 2021 WRX Base 29500, 2024 WRX Base 33,000. Apply the same logic to the 21 STI 37,300, meaning in 2024 it should be 41-43,000. This car is missing the Power, DCCD, and the STI trans. 43,000 is an Extremely Hard Pill to swallow for a Cheap/Economy Interior, 271hp. Here's a Better Question: What happened to the Performance Package? Moon Roof Delete, Recaro's and Brembos. You used to be able to attach this to the trim you want. Now? Its a Literal Trim that Costs you 43,000. For 43,000, I am Expecting Comparability to that of a GR Corolla. But do we have that? No. We do not. Some people like buying cars that they DON'T Have to modify to be able to keep Warranty. Putting my faith into the New Celica GT Four coming out with 400hp, AWD, 2.0l turbo until Subaru stops being so passive aggressive.
Cheap economy interior? Have you seen what a shit box the GR Corolla interior is? A lot of your other arguments are valid but let’s not bring interior into the discussion. The Corolla interior is trash by comparison especially against the limited or TR WRX
If you specced an STI in 2021 with the recaros, it would be just under $40k. For MORE money now, you're down on power, no DCCD and no mechanical limited slip diffs
@@ShadowBendNot a bargain because the STI is *worth* that increase in price. Hydraulic steering, hard mounted shifter, STI level chassis stiffening, STI specific drivetrain. All that is more than $8k difference due to inflation
@@BrianMakse I've driven the TR/RS. It drive good, a little slower than my STI. STI is more fun for sure but the WRX is what I need, not to mention it's more affordable for me
@@josephshehan4763 You are kidding, right? The GR Corolla is the same cost as this TR WRX. The Golf R is a bit more but it has way more options. Sorry Bud, the TR is simply not enough. The WRX has simply not changed enough over the years to command the sort of price tag Subaru is asking. The market has moved on.
Lol you can’t rob a bank with that slow poke. Any Tesla model 3 will shame it. As for the exterior is so bad with that grey cladding. I get a civic R instead, yeah I pay more, but that thing will appreciate, this Subaru is forgettable. Waste of your driving skills.
Just STOP your in sane TR meant cheap, not his ugly wrx over priced want to be. I have a 2020 and will probably never buy another wrx because they have abandoned the true car enthusiast.
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I’m getting about 28mpg on my 2024 WRX Premium. I driven enthusiastically.
That's pretty good! I'm impressed.
Those who are quick to put this car down should go and drive one. You will change your mind.
Exactly. Haters gon hate…for no good reason.
Way too slow for the class
@@layne4376 You and people with similar sentiments have gotten too comfortable with manufacturers constantly trying to be the new fastest and most powerful competitor.
It isn’t necessary though.
This car is fast. It is a great drive. It doesn’t need to be a competitor for the fastest in class. It is not trying to be.
@@OnlyAchievingHere and to add to that, probably the best looking car compared to the corolla, type r, r, and type s after some small visual mods
@@layne4376Speed isn’t everything, you know. The fun factor and other aspects also count.
I picked up my WRX Limit (automatic) three weeks ago and I am loving it!!! Currently at 25 mpg, and climbing, about 80% highway averaging 75 mph in the morning and 65 mph to stop and go traffic on the way home. The Adaptive Cruise Control at highway speeds and stop and go highway traffic operates like exactly how I would drive it, so much better than my 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon and my wife's 2020 Toyota Highlander. Large trunk for its size, plenty of leg room in the back seats behind me (6' 1"). Test drove the GTi first and loved it, dealer wouldn't come down to where I need the payments to be (cheaper to buy it and lease it), so I went to Subaru across the street, drove it and left with it. No regrets. The black plastic is growing on me and I will be thankful for it in New England's winters.
Finally comeone commented with a CVT 😅
All these haters and manual purists thinking they know better 😂😂
Thumbs up for the baby driver clip!
Sapphire blue is a beautiful shade of blue.
Agree, but still not what I'd buy.
Best car reviews on YT - and from an enthusiasts perspective not Consumer Reports!!
Thanks, Scott! We can’t compete against pedantic trim walks and reliability scores (or whatever they do), so we’ll stick with driving over here!
Love mine...barely new and got it for $34K. Cornering with this car is insane.
Nice! Enjoy!
I love driving my 23 it’s a lot of fun. Thanks for the honest review. And the aftermarket is right there for you to customize your wrx in many different ways.
I've seen reviews go both ways on the TR, good to hear your valued opinion.
Thanks, I enjoyed it!
I have my TR spec’ed with STI exhaust, Short throw shifter, vortex generator and lighted door sill plates
How fast do you have to go so that the vortex generators work?
@@BrianMakse I honestly don’t even know if they make any impact. I plan on putting a wing on though
Lol I spec'd mine nearly the same and had the same thoughts about the vortex generator. To compliment my wishful thinking a got the bigger trunk lip spoiler haha
@ I just put the Aeroflow Dynamics STI wing on and can’t be happier
Beating the piss out of mine, all city and averaging just shy of 21 mpg. I drove on the highway for 5 mins and it brought my average up nearly half a mpg
Nice work! Enjoy!
Should have bought the STI when you had the chance.
More power, better suspension, LSD front and rear, legendary transmission, DCCD, wing, better looks, all for less money these are now.
I’m getting over 26 mpg in my custom tuned 2023 Premium over the past 2400 miles. Mostly highway and mixed driving, driven mildly 90% of the time. But I’m getting 19 psi boost when pushed!
Nice!
Great seeing another review pop-up from you Brian!
Hey Dennis! The Canadian RS is exactly the same as the TR in the US. I didn't get briefed any further than that, so I can't comment on their product plans.
@@BrianMakse thank you. I watched your review again and then caught the parts where you said the RS in Canada is the same as the TR. So I removed that part of my comment, since I should have just paid closer attention. The TR seems more "track ready" than tuner. Anyways, thanks for all that you do and for setting me straight. Cheers once again sir!
You had me at manual ❤
And it's so good!
what happened to the link to the "heal toe" video?
Our mistake! It's in the description now and here's the direct link - th-cam.com/video/nrQHPz87FP0/w-d-xo.html - and we hope you enjoy!
The flat bottom steering wheel facilitates leg entry, especially with bulky clothing or a high seat position.
Sounds like the marketing has got you convinced…but, hey, don’t think about that critically for more than half a second.
@@BrianMakse I’ve never seen any marketing about the steering. My comment was based on daily use, helps me fit in more easily. Lovely car, just did my first snow drive yesterday. 😊
If the TR existed when I was looking for a car like this, I would have really considered it. It seems to solve my issues with the standard WRX. The biggest downside really is the fuel economy. Rated at something like 25 highway is rough for a car its size and power level.
Excellent review/story. Cheers🍻
Thanks!
Every car guy knows what a steering wheel is for you just at where you want and you can slide in and out of your car without moving your steering wheel. I don’t understand why Car guys don’t understand this or “” car guys otherwise I love your reviews.
And here I thought steering wheels are for steering!
They have totally reinvented the Subaru WRX
Does the WRX require high octane gas or does it get by on regular fuel?
It’ll run on regular no prob, but it’s happier on 91 and higher.
@@BrianMakse Thanks, Brian 👍🏻
Put premium in it for sure.
Track ready
Greavt vid Brian
Thanks, pal! Glad you enjoyed it!
Does it top your list of the German and other Japanese competition? I'd really like to see a retro rally version. Kind of like what Toyota did with the 4Runner. Is this a modern Lancia Delta Integrale?
Definitely raising the price of the Wrx because they dropping a 55k sti
the current WRX design looks so vanilla IMO.
Wow great price vs the US
A relative bargain!
3,400lbs+, not even 300hp (let’s remember a USA version 2000 WRX STI had 300hp standard), Brembo “upgrades” (a USA version 2000 WRX STI has had Brembo’s standard for over two decades), 0-60mph in 6s (above car mentioned did it in 4.8s in year 2000)…
I’m just not sold. “You won’t believe the transformation Subaru just pulled off with this”. You’re right. I don’t believe it at all. For the price, this Subaru WRX TR is slow and showcases how old and outdated its tech is, and overpriced, more than anything else. I’m not really sure you hit the mark for your viewers here bud.
This episode isn't about comparing this WRX TR to something that's out of context and from a quarter century ago.
The STI is gone. Subaru fans can either deal with it and accept the newer, better cars. Or buy other cars.
You aren't really paying attention to economic trends,, this makes me conclude that you're still living on someone else's dime. It also confuses me, like if you are going to be a stat nerd why aren't you applying that optic to inflation, and if you're pulling historical comparisons, why aren't you comparing the TR to a higher trim WRX instead of an STI. Ultimately, with inflation in mind, spending that extra 10k you'd be forced to pay for a Civic Type R or Corolla GR on aftermarket parts will get you well beyond any stock STIs that have ever existed. $53-55000 is what a stock STI would cost today everything considered. My TR is running 350/350, has great coilovers for street and track, all of the reliability mods, just bolt ons... STI transmission is mothballed for either the transmission dying or five years from now, whichever comes first, the FA24DIT beats the shit out of the EJ.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938someone with actual experience and real knowledge on the platform will just be ignored by the haters 😂 based off your last comment, your TR would blow the doors off of any STI mod for mod on a track. I’ve been screaming no STI because of inflation since the VB came out. People are finally catching up lol
They dyno the same tho just like the vb dynos higher hp than the gr corolla stated hp isn't anything an this get way better fuel economy than any sti I've owned an pick up hp super easy mine makes 368 to the wheels with intake intercooler an intermediate pipe running 21psi
Great review 🙏
You had me until you mentioned Civic Type R, Integra and Elantra..these are pure garbage quality.
😜
Other market versions of the TR is much cheaper , the USA spec TR have useless spec add on for it like heater seats and the high end sound system.
Which in the other market don’t have it and is way better in pricing . So you guys can blame USA Subaru for spec the TR wrong . Without heater seats and high end sound systems would be in the 37-8k
As much as price is part of the conversation, this thing is so unique and full of character relative to any comparables that it justifies the price they ask.
Looks and priced more like Track Ready than tuner ready. 🤷🏻♂️
Definitely "Driver Ready" like I said in the episode. Track ready would need brake pads, tires, proper alignment, etc...
At 13:54 you called the TR a TS. Just a heads up.
Quite possibly! Thanks!
NO STI POWERTRAIN WITH STI PRICE NO THX
Such a nice car.
However, that center screen is such a massive turn off. I couldn't stand to stare at that nonsense everyday.
Meh, I did a big brake kit and a STI trans swap on my 2022 premium. Money well spent.
Post vids dudeo
43000 is what a Base STI would cost in 2024. 2021 WRX Base 29500, 2024 WRX Base 33,000. Apply the same logic to the 21 STI 37,300, meaning in 2024 it should be 41-43,000. This car is missing the Power, DCCD, and the STI trans.
43,000 is an Extremely Hard Pill to swallow for a Cheap/Economy Interior, 271hp.
Here's a Better Question: What happened to the Performance Package? Moon Roof Delete, Recaro's and Brembos. You used to be able to attach this to the trim you want. Now? Its a Literal Trim that Costs you 43,000. For 43,000, I am Expecting Comparability to that of a GR Corolla. But do we have that? No. We do not. Some people like buying cars that they DON'T Have to modify to be able to keep Warranty.
Putting my faith into the New Celica GT Four coming out with 400hp, AWD, 2.0l turbo until Subaru stops being so passive aggressive.
Cheap economy interior? Have you seen what a shit box the GR Corolla interior is? A lot of your other arguments are valid but let’s not bring interior into the discussion. The Corolla interior is trash by comparison especially against the limited or TR WRX
Meh, stop playing games Subaru, and just give the people what they really want.
If you specced an STI in 2021 with the recaros, it would be just under $40k. For MORE money now, you're down on power, no DCCD and no mechanical limited slip diffs
@@caleb7674 I agree the price increases aren't fun, but $40k in 2021 is $48k today inflation adjusted. That makes the TR a bargain 🤣
If enough people had bought the STI, I don't think Subaru would have stopped making it
What other options do you find for a manul, 4door sedan with awd under 44k and it is not that slow?
@@ShadowBendNot a bargain because the STI is *worth* that increase in price. Hydraulic steering, hard mounted shifter, STI level chassis stiffening, STI specific drivetrain. All that is more than $8k difference due to inflation
Selling my last gen sti for this
Have you driven it yet?
@@BrianMakse I've driven the TR/RS. It drive good, a little slower than my STI. STI is more fun for sure but the WRX is what I need, not to mention it's more affordable for me
@@davefranciscolizardo4303good stuff, glad you’re prepared. The TR is great.
Needs an all digital dash.
Elantra N is a better car for less money
I have a 2022 WRX and I totally regret buying it. It's ugly and I lost out on an STI. It's a WRX with a dad bod.
This car loses every showdown with all cars in its class ..Civic type r ..Hyundai Elantra N..even the Gti ..its cheaper yes but there is a reason why.
Let’s see the same race in January… in Minnesota
Race in the snow? lol. The Golf R and GRCorolla just entered the chat.
@@layne4376 I'm down for that race, just give me the studded tires!
@@layne4376 oh so now we’re changing cars and price tags. Got it.
@@josephshehan4763 You are kidding, right? The GR Corolla is the same cost as this TR WRX. The Golf R is a bit more but it has way more options. Sorry Bud, the TR is simply not enough. The WRX has simply not changed enough over the years to command the sort of price tag Subaru is asking. The market has moved on.
Best to buy the golf R will smoke the wrx doing everything
At what? 10k more?
@@BrianMaksefor real..put 10K on the TR and u will prolly be close to 400whp lol
My 2013 sedan in plasma blue pearl looked better. This design is hideous.
Elantra N is the better car and for less money
It’s a great car, love driving them. Better, however, is subjective and thankfully we live in a time where we have great cars to choose from.
Lol you can’t rob a bank with that slow poke. Any Tesla model 3 will shame it. As for the exterior is so bad with that grey cladding. I get a civic R instead, yeah I pay more, but that thing will appreciate, this Subaru is forgettable. Waste of your driving skills.
There's nothing good about a Tesla Model 3 except helping me identify the low-skill drivers on the road.
Of course you’re comparing the WRX to a Tesla and calling it “slow.” Typical Tesla stat nerd, always saying that 0-60 is everything.
Ugly, slow, worst car in its category, boring to drive. Terrible car
Love hearing this because it's totally opposite to my experience with the car!
@@BrianMakse then you need to drive anything else besides this car lol 😂 that or you’re a fan boy
@@BrianMakse go drive an Elantra N!
Just STOP your in sane TR meant cheap, not his ugly wrx over priced want to be. I have a 2020 and will probably never buy another wrx because they have abandoned the true car enthusiast.