In the United States, in motorsports, the terms are used interchangeably. Which is why engines are mounted in cars with motor mounts, why people say what kind of engine or motor or mill or a variety of other terms. Its not a big issue. If it is, well I feel bad for u.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx He is correct. A motor is electrical, engines require a combustion chamber of some sort. People abuse the English language all the time. When I first meet someone, language skills are one of the metrics I use to determine if they are intelligent..
The prices have to seriously come down. I can buy a motorcycle for less then all this ( and don't forget the kits listed do not include the battery $$$$ )
You are so right. I bought a gearless hub motor. A 1000 watt 48 volt. came with controller, brake levers. About 400 bucks Canadian! I pulled apart the controller, had 60 volt capacitors, so I upvolted the battery to 52 Volts for extra power and range. It goes about 50 MPH. The only problem is it weighs about 20 LBs Is A 20 Ah 52 volt, at max charge is just under 60 volts. Just about 600 dollars Canadian. I mounted it on the rear rack that throws of the centre of gravity. I need to come up with a way to mount it as a down tube so I dont keep dumping the thing on me when mounting it.
the Bafang does require a battery. Their promotional video doesn't show the installation of a battery because one isn't included in the kit, but it IS required.
I can vouch for the voilamart - got 1000 watt , and a Yose power battery , the only thing I regret is my 1995 old mountain bike was too heavy for that wheel and couldn't replace the brakes, didn't match the gears. Bright side you can completely not pedal up hills on throttle mode. never used pedal assist but so good up hills.
@@megapet777 it's best to take it to bike shop that does ebikes . To install the electronics for you . Depends which bike you have for the wheels. If you have a Vbrake type I'd say go to the shop. Disc brakes might be easier to pop off and you will need to make a nut and bolt mechanism to keep the axles in place . The motor wheel is awkward at the front 🤣. The battery is easy ,to drill into some holes on your bike and slot in . Finding space on your bike for the kit like the controller is harder to install.
@@monikamoon14 oh I didnt know there are shops to do that for you. Yeah if I convert my bicycle to ebike in the future I would definitely go that route. I'm not that good of a mechanic :D
@@megapet777 My step dad did most of the wiring as he was a qualified electrician/engineer but - take it to a bike shop and save you time if your not technical 😊
@@monikamoon14 Oh that's nice. Yeah it would be very annoying for me to try to do it xD and it would probably fail. I wonder how much it would cost for the labour
For roads and general forest trails yes the rear or front hub is good enough, but for anyone wanting to take Thier bike off-road the bafang wins hands down. And it will require a battery, no torque sensor just pedal assist and or throttle assist. These are for old bikes anyone with money can just purchase a new ebike if they have a spare 4k to 12k sitting doing nothing 😂
What I don't like of some of the Wheel Hub motors are the ones fitted for 700cc or less than 2 inches wide no matter wheel size. It is the extreme speed of pressure which puts a lot of stress on skinny tires when riding over 24mph and up. The Standard width is 3 to 4 inches wide fat tires as the 2 inches to 2.25 is minimal width. Anything less is too be narrow of handling and facing high pressure from speed to terrain.
I ride with 2.1 to 2.25 wide 26inch tires of speeds at 40mph tops. What I notice of my tires of front are always getting deflated to a point they do lose contain after a while. I've learned of e bikes over 500 watts all need a standard of the heavy duty tube tires besides a tougher tire. Even a tire Guard strap should be included on f a standard. Those Euro , Sur Ron,vtypes of e bikes are the standard but expensive. For US low budget riders of lower end e bikes, we must add or change out certain parts and the tires is s always the start due to getting deflated tires at a constant.
@@Nosuchthingasnormalhere Yeah. Stats says those riders get hit by cars the most of any types and see it on news of these riders weekly. They also the biggest jerks of attitude. . Jus ride safe and aware but I've been knowing road bikes. Great bikes to sell for I sold many.
I have a 2 stroke motorized bike with 1.95 tires and have had no issue and it can go faster then alot of these ebikes so I think you would be OK as long as your a good and smart rider
You can fit a shifting device that senses shifting and cuts the motor. Had one and binned it. I have hydraulic brakes you can plug in magura e bike hydraulic brakes or nothing at all. You just need to learn to use the system
all motors over 500w are illegal in almost all North America (few exceptions areas accept 750w, no more).. if used only for off-road in the field, most areas have no rules there (except national parcs).. but who's never use the ebike on the streets?? ..be aware of the regulation in your area before to spend in it!!
I unfortunatly have a nearly 9000 dollar, 24 pound, carbon fiber suspension bike. And none of these are a good fit for me. It would be better to start from scratch. And iwouldn't get any of these.
If you can afford a 9000$ carbon bike you will be better off with an e-bike that is a match for it. It will cost you. These kits are good for their price but not exactly spectacular. Happy Cycling ;-)
Any gearless hub motor that makes a lot of noise has major problems. about the only thing you should hear is the tires on the road. Especially if you have knobby tires. That is my 2 cents worth. That info is not accurate.
Hmmm The mid frame motor has not so good reputation. quickly broken within less than 3000 km. I like the motor in the wheels, easy to maintain and replace.
I don't think everyone shares that opinion with you. Now I don't know which brand and model and year of construction you mean my experience is very bad.
Befang does not require a batteri... I know 6th graders that does better research for their presentations at school. He literally just looked at the image, jikes.
I cannot trust a channel that reviews stuff they don't understand. Saying the Bafang has no battery and is only powered by pedaling, makes ZERO sense. It may not come with one, but it sure as heck needs one. Please do your research before putting out a review that someone else might want to count on.
The Bafang BBS02 does need a battery. Powered trough pedaling? What a joke. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. Every bike is powered by pedaling. OMG. Hahahaha....
Oh, I don't know, I think it was worth it. Met up with an old buddy last year in Central park who also had a custom build that was based on a BBS02. He had told me how fast he had gotten it up to. So we put it to the test. BBSHD vs BBS02. Lets just say the results were rather astounding, in my favor. Especially on the hills. He had heard of the BBSHD but did not think it was much different in power than the 02. And he had never seen one run before in person. He has since reassessed what he knows about it.
With this in the power kit you're not going no faster then possibly 40 the misinformation is actually bad Jesus I have two of them 52 volt 5000 w and it does not like going up hills unless I put a sabotone controller it's a larger battery on it thank you
Wye some kits bikes all together are jokes at prices 🤣 when no way made for that price it's all cheap can get 1000w at £150 like some kid was asking to sell surron at 10 thousand pound no one knows the real price all random to profit
I've got a BBSHD 100mm version on my 2015 Specialized Fatboy! Running a 52V battery, and it hauls!. Getting around 60-65km/h up here in Ontario! Amazing motor!
@@TheCompjunkie my fav motor by far.. once ya have it dialled in, programmed and unplug the PAS it's basically bullet proof..the stock programming is garbage and will have ya snapping rotors ect.
Should stay away from front hub motor kits, it's really sketchy to pull the entire weight of the bike plus the rider from the dropouts of the front fork. Could even destroy the head tub. If something fails it could be catastrophic.
So I have bought an e-bike cargo bike from Rad Power Bikes. What I like is that I can get off the road faster, therefore there is less likelihood that I will get run over by a car. Where normally I might have to ride my bicycle at ten or 15 mph uphill, I can maintain 20 mph, meaning less time on the road with cars. This bicycle also has a crumple zone in the rear. If i can find other people who want to ride, I can offer motor pacing as I have the Conestoga wagon setup. I do have a 29er steel frame that I am thinking about a bunch of things with, thank you for your video!!!
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Please stop calling it an engine
It's a motor. A motor doesn't require a combustible fuel. An engine does.
Check out the searl engine effect
In the United States, in motorsports, the terms are used interchangeably. Which is why engines are mounted in cars with motor mounts, why people say what kind of engine or motor or mill or a variety of other terms. Its not a big issue. If it is, well I feel bad for u.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx He is correct. A motor is electrical, engines require a combustion chamber of some sort. People abuse the English language all the time. When I first meet someone, language skills are one of the metrics I use to determine if they are intelligent..
What search engine do you use?
@@formulaben Steam :D
The prices have to seriously come down. I can buy a motorcycle for less then all this ( and don't forget the kits listed do not include the battery $$$$ )
I agree for that price I can but a treadmill motor,dimmer switch,battery and go way faster
Sorry: The Bafang BBS02 does require a battery pack which is approximately equivalent in price and weight to the motor unit itself.
Lol I was baffled when he said it gets 48v from pedaling lmao
You are so right. I bought a gearless hub motor. A 1000 watt 48 volt. came with controller, brake levers. About 400 bucks Canadian! I pulled apart the controller, had 60 volt capacitors, so I upvolted the battery to 52 Volts for extra power and range. It goes about 50 MPH.
The only problem is it weighs about 20 LBs Is A 20 Ah 52 volt, at max charge is just under 60 volts. Just about 600 dollars Canadian.
I mounted it on the rear rack that throws of the centre of gravity.
I need to come up with a way to mount it as a down tube so I dont keep dumping the thing on me when mounting it.
LOL. It is impossible.
Obviously this clown has no idea what he's talking about! It's powered by "Friction"??? Total BS!
Nope, does not need a battery. You will get legs like tree trunks tho. Just kidding, mine runs on power tool batteries
the Bafang does require a battery. Their promotional video doesn't show the installation of a battery because one isn't included in the kit, but it IS required.
True and it's top notch
Don’t post a video if you don’t have a clue about what your talking about,
I want that second one that doesn't require a battery, Lol!
Lmao
Just a affiliate link cash grab for the creator
Free speech means everyone gets their say, even if it's incorrect. Remember that next time you feel like sharing your opinion.
@@nkumar1 Bingo!
I can vouch for the voilamart - got 1000 watt , and a Yose power battery , the only thing I regret is my 1995 old mountain bike was too heavy for that wheel and couldn't replace the brakes, didn't match the gears. Bright side you can completely not pedal up hills on throttle mode. never used pedal assist but so good up hills.
was it hard to install?
@@megapet777 it's best to take it to bike shop that does ebikes . To install the electronics for you
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Depends which bike you have for the wheels. If you have a Vbrake type I'd say go to the shop.
Disc brakes might be easier to pop off and you will need to make a nut and bolt mechanism to keep the axles in place . The motor wheel is awkward at the front 🤣.
The battery is easy ,to drill into some holes on your bike and slot in . Finding space on your bike for the kit like the controller is harder to install.
@@monikamoon14 oh I didnt know there are shops to do that for you. Yeah if I convert my bicycle to ebike in the future I would definitely go that route. I'm not that good of a mechanic :D
@@megapet777
My step dad did most of the wiring as he was a qualified electrician/engineer but - take it to a bike shop and save you time if your not technical 😊
@@monikamoon14 Oh that's nice. Yeah it would be very annoying for me to try to do it xD and it would probably fail. I wonder how much it would cost for the labour
that's great ideas instead of buying new e-bike just upgrade old ones!🚲
engines are powered by combustion motors are powered by either brushed or brushless magnets
How much does it cost and where can one buy it from? Thank you
For roads and general forest trails yes the rear or front hub is good enough, but for anyone wanting to take Thier bike off-road the bafang wins hands down. And it will require a battery, no torque sensor just pedal assist and or throttle assist. These are for old bikes anyone with money can just purchase a new ebike if they have a spare 4k to 12k sitting doing nothing 😂
Used Harley prices!
@@garyjohnson4575 my prices were in pounds sterling, but you are correct for a brand ebike 4k in £ or $ is way too much.
Best the front motor so that easily trainspotting by car roof front fork rack since the heavy front wheel is removed.
Cyc X1 stealth or pro didn't make the cut? Lol. For an mtb trail there isn't another to have other than the bafang. 🤔
Perfect commuter bike!
why no tonsheng tsds2?? is almost second most popular kit worldwide...
Thumbs down on this stolen advertisement clickbait Jesus christ who would say the bafang doesn't require a battery?
Outside the USA motors are restricted to 250w. Surprised you didnt know that.
What I don't like of some of the Wheel Hub motors are the ones fitted for 700cc or less than 2 inches wide no matter wheel size. It is the extreme speed of pressure which puts a lot of stress on skinny tires when riding over 24mph and up. The Standard width is 3 to 4 inches wide fat tires as the 2 inches to 2.25 is minimal width. Anything less is too be narrow of handling and facing high pressure from speed to terrain.
I ride with 2.1 to 2.25 wide 26inch tires of speeds at 40mph tops. What I notice of my tires of front are always getting deflated to a point they do lose contain after a while. I've learned of e bikes over 500 watts all need a standard of the heavy duty tube tires besides a tougher tire. Even a tire Guard strap should be included on f a standard. Those Euro , Sur Ron,vtypes of e bikes are the standard but expensive. For US low budget riders of lower end e bikes, we must add or change out certain parts and the tires is s always the start due to getting deflated tires at a constant.
Ever heard of road bikes? They do like 60mph on tires and rims that are 1.8inch wide.
@@Nosuchthingasnormalhere Yeah. Stats says those riders get hit by cars the most of any types and see it on news of these riders weekly. They also the biggest jerks of attitude. . Jus ride safe and aware but I've been knowing road bikes. Great bikes to sell for I sold many.
@@user619tlsdca5 people who go faster get in more crashes, no duh. Point is the tires work.
I have a 2 stroke motorized bike with 1.95 tires and have had no issue and it can go faster then alot of these ebikes so I think you would be OK as long as your a good and smart rider
Mid-drive is always better...
Wow -- A perpetual propulsion motor -- welcome too machine....
I have a vespa piaggio ciao1969, and I want to convert to electric, which e-motor you recommend me ?
This is like watching a drivers ed video in high school but not as exciting
Hello how to buying this product ebike kit
Personally I went for Lvbu kit.
Battery front drive motor.
Bluetooth phone app.
100% kit over 2000km if anything battery has got better range.
I was thinking of getting the LVBU kit as well but idk which one to get. What do you have
What If you have a mountain bike and disc brakes you can't use any of these
Mid-motors style Bafang will do just fine since you keep the original wheels and brakes.
You can fit a shifting device that senses shifting and cuts the motor. Had one and binned it. I have hydraulic brakes you can plug in magura e bike hydraulic brakes or nothing at all. You just need to learn to use the system
Hi can this work for my Assist E-bike???
So bafang solved the world energy crisis ?
Its imposible bruh...
all motors over 500w are illegal in almost all North America (few exceptions areas accept 750w, no more).. if used only for off-road in the field, most areas have no rules there (except national parcs).. but who's never use the ebike on the streets?? ..be aware of the regulation in your area before to spend in it!!
Hi I have 48V 1000W bafang metro it's be suitable for 52V 28.08AH pls answer my questions thx 😊😘💐💄
I left the first time I heard "Engine"
Exactly! It is a motor. If it was propelled by combustion it would be an engine.
I unfortunatly have a nearly 9000 dollar, 24 pound, carbon fiber suspension bike. And none of these are a good fit for me. It would be better to start from scratch. And iwouldn't get any of these.
@@jwitkowski314 thing is im not gonns, it doesnt need a motor. lol
its actualy easier to ride up hhill than it is to get off and push
If you can afford a 9000$ carbon bike you will be better off with an e-bike that is a match for it. It will cost you. These kits are good for their price but not exactly spectacular.
Happy Cycling ;-)
Report this video for misinformation. No battery needed..lol right
Any gearless hub motor that makes a lot of noise has major problems. about the only thing you should hear is the tires on the road. Especially if you have knobby tires. That is my 2 cents worth. That info is not accurate.
Max torque max speed bafang bbshd over bad
Any Power Assist Kit that doesn't come with waterproof connectors cannot be considered a top kit. Wait till it rains & you get water ingress.
Prithing. Kithhhsss. Thpeeeedths. Alright tweetie pie. 🤣🤣🤣 you tube isn’t for everyone
I just want one to hit 30MPH.
THIS is COOL as well as AMAZING.!.
A bafang needs a battery 🤦♂️
Hmmm The mid frame motor has not so good reputation. quickly broken within less than 3000 km. I like the motor in the wheels, easy to maintain and replace.
Sorry but the mid-drive motors are far more reliable than the hub motors, especially in hilly areas.
I don't think everyone shares that opinion with you.
Now I don't know which brand and model and year of construction you mean my experience is very bad.
coz now its illegal
SEPARATE CONTROLLERS ARE PAIN OF ASS !
Did you mind to find something good with a built in controller or a very small controller?
@@tr1707 YES DOZENS OF BRANDS AVAILABLE IN MARKET WHICH HAVE BUILTIN CONTROLLERS
@@tahir1khan137 any good recommendations. I'm looking for a rear-hub wheel with over 2000w
Befang does not require a batteri... I know 6th graders that does better research for their presentations at school. He literally just looked at the image, jikes.
This price is horrible, I buying a complet new e bike for cheaper price and dont need any fixings and issues 😅
If you have the money go for it, I don't know where your likely to get a comparable system and bike cheaper. That is just daft
WTF are you talking about?
BBS02 doesn't use a battery?
Better to buy ebike instead of kit
Furthermore....
What about those 8000w 72v kits?
dont buy off alishitba. Full stop.
Does the Ebikling Tiger come with the sexy lady ? 😊
sorry; couldn't watch the presentation due to the lame/ cutesy commentary
That kit in Australia sells for $1500 .. too expensive!!
Just going to have to jump in trial and error this guy commentating the video is just reading A sales pitch I'm not buying the bulkshit.
This guy doesnt know the difference in shit and shinola!
AI
AI, yawn.....
This video is bad.
I cannot trust a channel that reviews stuff they don't understand. Saying the Bafang has no battery and is only powered by pedaling, makes ZERO sense. It may not come with one, but it sure as heck needs one. Please do your research before putting out a review that someone else might want to count on.
Funny I caught that as well. Bafang is my choice out of all of them.
Bafang is actually good, if not the best of them all, mid drive ebikes are more preferred to hub motor ebikes
The Bafang BBS02 does need a battery. Powered trough pedaling? What a joke. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. Every bike is powered by pedaling. OMG. Hahahaha....
60 MPH hub motors? NO BATTERY mid mount motor? Huh?
what a false review!!!
Bafang BBSHD baby!
Am surprised they went with the BBS02 on this list.
Agreed.
Not really worth the extra price
Oh, I don't know, I think it was worth it.
Met up with an old buddy last year in Central park who also had a custom build that was based on a BBS02. He had told me how fast he had gotten it up to. So we put it to the test. BBSHD vs BBS02.
Lets just say the results were rather astounding, in my favor. Especially on the hills. He had heard of the BBSHD but did not think it was much different in power than the 02. And he had never seen one run before in person.
He has since reassessed what he knows about it.
Isn't BBSHD not legal in the US?
@@henrikntrl Not that I know of. It is openly sold here.
Why don't you say what the price is on each one of the kits
With this in the power kit you're not going no faster then possibly 40 the misinformation is actually bad Jesus I have two of them 52 volt 5000 w and it does not like going up hills unless I put a sabotone controller it's a larger battery on it thank you
all kits are 0 volts 0 watts if the don't have a battery.
Wye some kits bikes all together are jokes at prices 🤣 when no way made for that price it's all cheap can get 1000w at £150 like some kid was asking to sell surron at 10 thousand pound no one knows the real price all random to profit
Why don't you tell me the price of any of these?
why is it when you go to amazon they list all these bafang kits w different wattages? 500, 750, 1000
The bafang bbshd is a beast! Expect to snap chain ..sooo much fun
I've got a BBSHD 100mm version on my 2015 Specialized Fatboy! Running a 52V battery, and it hauls!. Getting around 60-65km/h up here in Ontario! Amazing motor!
@@TheCompjunkie my fav motor by far.. once ya have it dialled in, programmed and unplug the PAS it's basically bullet proof..the stock programming is garbage and will have ya snapping rotors ect.
Something else to have if you're riding an ebike is an nta helmet like xnito or bern hudson, most bicycle helmets aren't safe for ebike riders
All these bikes are two wheelers. Any recomendations for an adult trike? I'd like to keep the ability to pedal.
👎
Bbs02 no battery and display 🤣
Bafang for me.
Should stay away from front hub motor kits, it's really sketchy to pull the entire weight of the bike plus the rider from the dropouts of the front fork. Could even destroy the head tub. If something fails it could be catastrophic.
How much bafang kit
Thank you 🙏 the Bafang new for me , i like 👍 all ! 🚲🚲🚲👏👏👏👏peaceful price would be nice 👍
So I have bought an e-bike cargo bike from Rad Power Bikes. What I like is that I can get off the road faster, therefore there is less likelihood that I will get run over by a car. Where normally I might have to ride my bicycle at ten or 15 mph uphill, I can maintain 20 mph, meaning less time on the road with cars. This bicycle also has a crumple zone in the rear. If i can find other people who want to ride, I can offer motor pacing as I have the Conestoga wagon setup. I do have a 29er steel frame that I am thinking about a bunch of things with, thank you for your video!!!
curry motor
Thanks 😊
the voilamart sucks big time bought one had to send it back motor did not function and did not come with a controller.
Mid drives are louder than hub motor to me. And hub motors are the choice for top speed as mid drives is for climbing hills
The bafang mid drive is quiet and if u grease the motor it will remain so for 2 years or 20,Thousand miles
Then needs re greasing
Pay thomeone to do a voitheover.
Is the Bafang only a pedal assist? Or can it accelerate without pedaling as well
Yes, has a throttle,
ridiculously expensive. get what you pay for? what a joke