I'm sure it isn't as reliable as the standard 4 cylinder. Anything with a turbo is going to have more wear and tear than non turbo. It's still probably more reliable than 99% of other cars because it is still a Toyota. But $50K for a Corolla is just ridiculous.
A tiny 3 cylinder engine with a "Massive" turbo on it is definitely not going to be as reliable as a normal Toyota. It's a good thing they put a manual transmission in it as well, because that monster would wear out a CVT in no time.
@Michael-uc2pn the turbo is definitely not massive. 300HP is not a lot, even for a well tuned, built 1.6L 3 cylinder without a turbo (if you know how to build amd tune motors). But I don't disagree that any significant added pressure in the heads will prematurely wear a motor out compared to not having one.
No matter what statistics you look at, that is not true. Bmw and porsche are about the same reliability in datasets for the US. Right there with mazda in multiple studies. In other studies bmw is placed 3 or 6. And here in germany noone thinks that. How come ? But you guys in the us say the same about audi meanwhile I am driving my 285k km s3 with no problems. Before a 180k km A6. Before that a 230k km bmw. Little to no problems with any of the cars. And my neighbours think the same. So I believe you guys don't service and maintain the vehicles right. But that is just my believe. Yours doesn't add up with statistics tho.
They're just going back to their roots, You have to remember the heyday when they had the Supra, the MR2, the Celica, the ae86, 2000gt, and don't forget they make some nice Lexus vehicles like the IS series, the LFA, and a laundry list of amazing trucks.
I remember when Toyota motors were allowed at the Indy 500; Toyota ended up wining the first Five places so Indy quit allowing Toyota engines to race there
It’s great, but like all the hot performance -small sedans, it’s too expensive to fulfill its primary function of economical transportation. I want fun to drive, but also sensible. I don’t need racetrack performance.
I'm a mechanic and my tow truck drivers are telling me these Toyota are 75% of their buissness. They sed to build reliable cars but now that doesn't matter, looks like I'm going to see more of these in the shop
But if you haven’t seen it then sounds like 75% is a stretch. I wonder how all these people see 75% of newer toyotas and 25% every single other manufacturer. IG other manufacturers finally died out & only toyotas are left huh
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487 really? odd the warranty reports and reliability reports say the complete opposite to what your stating, show the stats or otherwise your just another person with an opinion
Unfortunately most people don’t realize, a turbo drastically reduces the life and overall long term functionality of their motor (so expensive repairs). Especially for kids who drive their card hard because they think their “Fast and the Furious” due to a turbocharger on their car.
Obviously you don't know that modern production turbo engines are designed to take boost. The ones that blow up are from bad tunes when they are modified or being pushed past what they are designed for, unless it's a Subaru, but then it doesn't matter if it is turbo or not, it will blow up.
Wider then kim kardasian😂😂😂 Occasionally Toyota loses its mind...and that's good. Toyota is the quiet sober guy that sometimes gets influenced to go to a night club.and lets loose..hahaha
@@naveenthemachinei'd still bet that toyota is still superior compared to all these other brands in terms of reliability nowadays, even if it may not be by a huge margin
Thank you for bringing this to light. As a Loyal Toyota customer of 10 years, I think I deserve a free GR Corolla for the 250k miles that I put on my base model Corolla
@@Jaguar7444 AWD transmits power where needed (if a wheel is losing/gaining traction may not turn or may turn faster), while 4WD spins all the wheels regardless of traction or not unless it has a limited slip differential.
@@TsavoTouringnope you're completely wrong all-wheel drive systems don't use a center differential that's a full-time four-wheel drive uses a center differential and a part-time four-wheel drive uses a transfer case all-wheel drive is completely different normally sends power to the rear wheels right from the transmission with no transfer case no differential and some all-wheel drive systems use clutches whether that be fluid-filled clutch like a Subaru or clutch packs on the rear wheels like Toyota does on some of their vehicles
@@davidaix5771 I wouldn’t say completely wrong… I’s have to look into more but 2/3 Subaru systems use a center diff - an STI with DCCD has a button that says “C. Diff + /-“ and Audis have used a center differential. I’m sure there are a ton of variations with different technologies that involve various clutch packs and electric motors… but “completely wrong” is always a pretty bold / silly response to almost anything in the comments section 🤷🏻♂️
Mine was retroactive. I heard bucket on my first couple of viewings. Then then on my fourth viewing I happen to be half paying attention, and then I didn't hear "buckets" I heard it completely different 😂😂😂😂
In my area its $45k not even including taxes not to mention this has an overheating issue for the awd system… so much for Toyota reliability. Doubt the little engine would last under all that pressure too.
My old neighbor called Toyota a Toyota corrodia with a 3speed column shift but he loved it. He even bought a truck. But that was back in the 70's 54 years ago!!🤔
I like having an older boring Toyota. It’s a joy to have a car so reliable it’s boring. Toyota needs to remember their competitive advantage is being boring.
My 2008 carolla is super boring but I love it. Feels like it's gonna last forever, wouldn't be surprised if it goes for another 10-15+ years. One of my sons will probably be using it as their first car when they turn 16.
Unrelated brand but thats why I love my old 91 Ford F-150 its rusty far from a show truck but pretty dang reliable with its 300 ci inline 6 cylinder and 5 speed manual. I don't care for fast take off speed or flashy looks just something that works to haul my tools to and from a job. I see old Toyota trucks all the time that look even more rust rotted than my Ford still chugging along am tempted getting one to save a little more on gas with a 4 cylinder. Also I wished small trucks would come back because my 1991 F-150 is a full sized truck and looks like a toy next to some of the behemoths Chevy Ford and Dodge have been making in recent years.
Im convinced, in 2050 they'll just sell us a car with a sail on top and no engine for $50k but it'll have 17 cameras, apple car play, 4 flesh lights, 8 coolers, simulated snow and hell fire AND it'll drive and shop the grocery store for you without even having to be in the car (as long as its a windy enough day).
Toyota is phasing out its naturally aspirated engines for less reliable high output turbos... I told my family and friends to buy the last good ones if they want one new. T^T
It is a limited production hot hatch. First of all, you're not necessarily correct. But more importantly, this is a special edition. Nobody would expect a 300hp hot hatch to have the same exact reliability as one with half as much power.
I gun my 2015 Toyota Camry very often, a naturally aspirated 4 pot. It’s over 100K miles and didn’t skip a beat but, I prematurely wore out the engine mounts and replaced them at 80K.
I think only the new ones have one? My grandma's 2020 came with the 2.5 and I can't see anything before 2024 about the 3-cylinder. Underrated engine when it's in sport mode, and that's coming from a guy who drives a manual 3.8 Eclipse
Toyota has read the tea leafs. Most all other auto manufacturers are bailing out on performance. Toyota is the 1st manufacturer to release a high performance 3cylinder in US.
I can't see it lasting for several hundred thousand miles like the old corollas. But at least Toyota usually makes good on a flop, at least when they first started building cars.
There are 1000 hp supras that survive well over 150K miles after modifications before a rebuild is needed and that’s 166 hp per cylinder with 3 liters of total displacement.
@@davidperry4013 What are you yapping about young bloke? You are comparing fully built race engine GTE's to a factory G16. Im sorry to tell you, but if you genuinely think a G16 will EVER outlast a factory 2j gte or even an NA 2j, its over for you.
Daihatsu also produced a 993 cc three. The turbo 12 valve version was the first car mass produced car with 100 hp per liter. They were in the Charade GTi. Toyota owns Daihatsu, which mostly builds 660 cc Kei cars.
If you’re comparing a cheap model BMW to this, you deserve all the problems coming, just because you can get the price doesn’t mean maintenance is going to be the same price either. Gotta look at the bigger picture. Seen this plenty of times where people think they can do this. When they find out even the cheaper models can take premium gas that’s more expensive too. It all starts adding up and getting more expensive. You’re already paying more for maintenance and then on top of that premium gas lol
@@Anomize23obviously it takes premium gas…it’s an M car. M2 is not a cheap model BMW, it’s just the cheapest in the M lineup. Still an M, still premium, still performance oriented, still an awesome car, and yes…still expensive to maintain
Toyota might have built "boring" cars, but those boring cars were extremely reliable, long-lasting, had engines that started up every time, and even the electronics lasted ages. This corolla might be more interesting, but at the cost of reliability which is what they're known for. That turbo charged engine is not going to make it to 100k without issues. The older models could surpass 200-300k and still be going strong. They would run circles around this. These cars manufacturers keep stuffing all this technology crap in these vehicles that hardly anyone knows what half of the buttons are, and cost a fortune to fix when they break (which is like, every three months 🤣). It becomes a distraction from the road and can cause accidents. You don't need it.
Toyota is already well loved for their motorsports participation wym bro this Corolla just a good car on a overall terrible couple years of cars, that’s not Toyota’s fault everybody is making plastic cars not just them
Idk why I thought he pulled a magic trick! I thought he walked to the passenger side to open the door but somehow was in the driver seat already! 🤦🏾♂️ 😂
That geo metro may not have any horse power but that G10 engine with five speed transmission got 50 miles to a gallon and it was common to see then with 300,000 plus miles ... If this Toyota can do that , I'd buy one
A centrifugal supercharged 2.5L Inline 4 with ITBs, red powder coated aluminum valve cover, and infinitely variable valve lift that makes over 325 hp and revs to over 8000 rpms would be pretty rad though.
Powertune Australia ran their GR Yaris 6000 track miles with 680whp with stock internals. It blew when they tuned it to 800whp. This motor is very overbuilt, and it is amazing because it weighs nothing, giving you great weight distribution.
@@tylerknoll8135how about we take inspiration from the warthog. Instead of a gun on a plane its just a gun with wings. Maybe we just put a seat and wheels on a giant 4 cylinder.
Definitely cool, but im also definitely worried about the long term reliability of a turbo, direct injected *3* cylinder. Turbo gas engines tend to not last as long as N/A due to higher cylinder pressures and the associated washdown, same goes for GDI tech, and 3 cyl engines are inherently less valanced than even cylinder engines. I see this as a 250k mile car tops before a rebuild is necessary. Time will tell
I think the 3 cylinder can be reliable on its own but the turbo is what makes it questionable. I think i saw an article in which someone already drove the new Civic Si over 200,000 miles and it's still doing fine. That has a 4 cylinder turbo though, so who knows what will happen with the GR Corolla. The 3 cylinder seems new for Toyota whereas Honda for example has been putting the 1.5T in their cars for at least few years now
@@ufork stuff like this can definitely last a couple hundred thousand, especially when grandpa owns it, since he'll never rev it past 4k, and change the oil 500 miles early. I do however think the golden era of 90s honda and toyota products that last 300k when abused and 500k when lovingly maintained are long over 😔
I mean, it's not rocket science that a turbo motor will have reliability issues over N/A cars. You're forcing more air into the cylinders. The issue with that statement is you assume that the engineers didn't account for that extra pressure which is why most forced inducted engines have forged rotating assemblies and better breathing head/s. They didn't just throw a 3 turbo on a 3 cylinder and called it good.
@@TheWholeGrainBread_Real I do account for it. I co-owned and operated a machine shop from 2007-2015. Forged rotating assembly or not has nothing to do with the blow by associated with high cylinder pressures. Nothing at all. That comes down to piston ring metallurgy/tolerances/cylinder pressures. Not crank, not rods, nor piston metallurgy. I know you're just talking out of your 🍑 because I mentioned cylinder washdown, and you had to bring up forged internals. I need to just turn off notifications for this thread because I know it's going to attract know-it-all armchair engineers who've never spun a wrench to pay rent.
I remember my old Corolla had over 350k miles, swear it was always on S but always mad it back home, never oil changed it and it went through many accidents. She wasn’t pretty but she was reliable and always took care of me, probably should’ve taken better care of her, RIP red fugly Toyota 🕊️
Woah guys, chill. Some people just don’t know any better. I’ve seen plenty of destroyed engine from customers simply not changing their oil. No need to hate
maybe what you didn't notice is that it doesn't cost them any more to make look cool to distract you from the measurable decrease in quality that people are complaining about
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100 HP per cylinder and each having their own exhaust is actually crazy.
$42,000 for that little squash-box.
@@strykerentllc got mine for 38k
S2000 already the king on this. NA engine. 2.0 and 240hp. That was made 20 years ago.
@MrMannyhw except the f series honda motors suck for making above stock power. B or k series takes boost properly
No it doesn't have exhaust for each cylinder, it comes together and splits off again into 3
They lost their minds on the prices too.
Just like most auto manufacturers due to inflation.
I mean, when you’re the best in the game, it only makes sense to have a price that matches it
Well yeah, "no more boring cars" in corporate speak translates into "our car prices are going up"
@@kzukiodenthechad7205the best in the game?? 💀 maybe in 2003
Dealers still asking way too much for their cars
Usually small engines that are taxed to the limit don't have the longevity.
$50k Carolla. I'd say they lost their minds.
Starts at 36k
You can drive it for 25 years though.
I don't think they made it for u , , so stop barking@@jshbld6582
If I had money I'd buy it just for the manual transmission, plus Toyota's reliability is very appealing.
“Aggressive bucket seats”
They look like the same seats from a Toyota Yaris
Aggressively Brutal😂
But ... this is a toyota yaris ...
You mean gr yaris? Yes Its the same. NOT the same as the econobox yaris
😂😂
You're not paying for the seats or interior. You're paying for the power and speed here.
If Toyota makes a new V8 it’s probably going to have 8 exhaust pipes 😂
😂😂😂🎉
they already do V8s, they have a 5.0 in the newest RCF
lowkey give it over tho be so funny
If they make it a side exhaust thatd be real sexy
@@majrbacon1293 wait maybe tho
Corolla "that's wider than Kim Kardashian" 💀💀
Bro I was looking for this😭💀💀
Does he mean Kim's vag?
Was looking for this 😂😂
bbl 😂
😂😂😂
Toyota said "No more boring cars" and then released a Mazda, a BMW, and a Subaru as their 'sporty' cars.
A 40K Toyota Carolla... you tellin me I can't even afford a Corola now??
The reliability better still be there if you're paying that much.
I would skip this and just buy an old corolla
@Jim26D True. A 100k Corolla would just be broken in and much cheaper 👌
I'm sure it isn't as reliable as the standard 4 cylinder. Anything with a turbo is going to have more wear and tear than non turbo. It's still probably more reliable than 99% of other cars because it is still a Toyota. But $50K for a Corolla is just ridiculous.
A tiny 3 cylinder engine with a "Massive" turbo on it is definitely not going to be as reliable as a normal Toyota.
It's a good thing they put a manual transmission in it as well, because that monster would wear out a CVT in no time.
@Michael-uc2pn the turbo is definitely not massive. 300HP is not a lot, even for a well tuned, built 1.6L 3 cylinder without a turbo (if you know how to build amd tune motors). But I don't disagree that any significant added pressure in the heads will prematurely wear a motor out compared to not having one.
Meanwhile BMW CEO wakes up " We are no longer building unreliable cars"
Keep dreaming
@@feminazislayer😂
Yeah that’s called a electric vehicle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No matter what statistics you look at, that is not true. Bmw and porsche are about the same reliability in datasets for the US. Right there with mazda in multiple studies. In other studies bmw is placed 3 or 6. And here in germany noone thinks that. How come ? But you guys in the us say the same about audi meanwhile I am driving my 285k km s3 with no problems. Before a 180k km A6. Before that a 230k km bmw. Little to no problems with any of the cars. And my neighbours think the same. So I believe you guys don't service and maintain the vehicles right. But that is just my believe. Yours doesn't add up with statistics tho.
Such mumbers ,looks like you are voyager 3.
They're just going back to their roots, You have to remember the heyday when they had the Supra, the MR2, the Celica, the ae86, 2000gt, and don't forget they make some nice Lexus vehicles like the IS series, the LFA, and a laundry list of amazing trucks.
the 81 celica "supra" yum.
I remember when Toyota motors were allowed at the Indy 500; Toyota ended up wining the first Five places so Indy quit allowing Toyota engines to race there
We had a Toyota Cressida, amazing vehicle. Smooth ride.
The goat AE86 😊😊
people can joke all they want about this brand, but i've never seen a Toyota break down on the side of the road unless its a flat tire 👏👏
You obviously don’t get out much.
@@snydedon9636 you obviously granny shifting not double clutching like you should
@@benji_san 😂 You need to get out of your parents basement kiddo. Really!
@@snydedon9636 you need to get back to your parents basement, you need parental supervision
@@benji_san giving your own comment a thumbs up is pretty lame kiddo.
A 3 cylinder Corolla - it must be really affordable
It's $40k before markups
Yeah even worse is that the n/a model comes with a cvt trans, no manual option 💩
A 3 cylinder Corolla with Turbo???
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I don't think so.
@@haasofdetroit9828there is a manual option it’s just not sold in America 😢
It’s great, but like all the hot performance -small sedans, it’s too expensive to fulfill its primary function of economical transportation. I want fun to drive, but also sensible. I don’t need racetrack performance.
Yea, it sucks the direction Toyota is going. I bought a Tesla instead last year and seriously considering buying another Tesla. Same pice, way faster.
.."High performance, aggressive, bucketseats"?
This brother definitely got paid to say that 😂
Bahahha
Seats so aggressive they'll chew you a new asshole!! Excellent marketing!
He has been copying, or coached by, other car hosts.
Sometimes the exact copying and tones is so identical it feels plagerized and disingenuous.
But... it IS high performance, has seats that hug you hard and it's aggressive?
I'm a mechanic and my tow truck drivers are telling me these Toyota are 75% of their buissness. They sed to build reliable cars but now that doesn't matter, looks like I'm going to see more of these in the shop
But if you haven’t seen it then sounds like 75% is a stretch. I wonder how all these people see 75% of newer toyotas and 25% every single other manufacturer. IG other manufacturers finally died out & only toyotas are left huh
@@ckchatta369Toyota is not what it used to be 30 years ago. Their “Infallible” reliability mantra is nothing but a myth in modern Toyota products.
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487 really? odd the warranty reports and reliability reports say the complete opposite to what your stating, show the stats or otherwise your just another person with an opinion
Unfortunately most people don’t realize, a turbo drastically reduces the life and overall long term functionality of their motor (so expensive repairs). Especially for kids who drive their card hard because they think their “Fast and the Furious” due to a turbocharger on their car.
this isn't 1990.
Obviously you don't know that modern production turbo engines are designed to take boost. The ones that blow up are from bad tunes when they are modified or being pushed past what they are designed for, unless it's a Subaru, but then it doesn't matter if it is turbo or not, it will blow up.
@@Ottienger It increases the load cycling on the piston and the heads, so the turbo engine will not last as long.
Do turbos still increase insurance costs? That used to be true, with turbos something to stay away from. Seriously, who needs it?
@@Cheepchipsablei have bmw F30 stage 1 with 250 000km soon,twinscroll turbo, just normal oil change,even original chain is in there
Don’t underestimate your left buttock
the gr does 12.9 -13.0 on 1/4 mile so yea dont underestimate for real
Bruh lol.
I do need my left buttock when I turn right.
If I go to a Toyota doctor, will each of my buttocks get its own exhaust?
lmao
Wider then kim kardasian😂😂😂
Occasionally Toyota loses its mind...and that's good. Toyota is the quiet sober guy that sometimes gets influenced to go to a night club.and lets loose..hahaha
No they’re not😂. They’re the boring brand that gets bullied by other brands
@@naveenthemachineat least they won't break down tomorrow when you are travelling with the family unlike certain ahem German and British brands
@@BoskiM but that doesn’t matter. Every brands reliable these days
@@naveenthemachinei'd still bet that toyota is still superior compared to all these other brands in terms of reliability nowadays, even if it may not be by a huge margin
And the he wakes up in the morning not knowing what he did in bar last night. Lol
Reminds me of years ago while at a Toyota dealership. An older couple were looking for an 8-cylinder Tercel.😂
I had a 5 speed manual Metro over two decades ago. Had a lot of fun in that thing.
Aggressive bucket seats got me rolling on the floor 😂😂
Never seen those in my life sir how to they work? 🧐
Don't look aggressive, they look calm
Deadass lol the stock seats in an evo 8 are way more aggressive 😂
Pretty lame statement! 🙄
when you sit in them you would agree. They are quite snug and bucket like, especially compared to standard toyota seats.
you left out the outrageous price tag
and leaves out the Prius as a common example. Poor research.
People have to overpay for their legendary quality, despite them being now pumped out in USA 😢
It’s not a regular Corolla though the base is like 23k
Well it's basically a performance version, with awd.
For 55k.. yes.. they’ve lost their minds
Just don’t “money shift” it. Toyota wants $42,000 to replace the engine and transmission if you do.
$50k for a Corolla is more than Crazy
That's horrible. I thought it was bad when I saw new ones for 18k a few years ago
They lost they damn minds. What we need is their new bare bones pick up for $12K! I’d take a loan out for that in a heart beat!
$ is not what it was
@@peterdietrich9491 neither is sanity apparently.
Yeah when you can buy 200whp 6spd Corollas for $5k- $10k it doesn’t seem worth it..
They got their mind back, made great fun cars in the 80s and 90s... Celica rally car, Supra...
And we can’t afford them
I've got a celica!! Fixing it up! Still kickin
Made by BMW with BMW problems
MR2, trueno 86...
Thank you for bringing this to light. As a Loyal Toyota customer of 10 years, I think I deserve a free GR Corolla for the 250k miles that I put on my base model Corolla
I have 250K miles on my 06 BMW 330i, but maintenance and costs were probably way higher than yours lol. But damn, I sure love driving it.
300k miles on a 2014 Altima running great
Dude, love the energy!!! Where are you from? Your car looks like it needs a lovely detail!!!
Fake Doug Demuro clone is funny asf 🤣😭💀🤯
Yoooo😂😂😂😂
...and just as annoying.
Temu Doug Demuro
@@1223baddad impossible
So a fake clone?🤔
Guess I have to be the guy.... It's not a standard 4WD system, it's AWD
What's the difference?
@@Jaguar7444 AWD transmits power where needed (if a wheel is losing/gaining traction may not turn or may turn faster), while 4WD spins all the wheels regardless of traction or not unless it has a limited slip differential.
I believe the main physical difference is that AWD uses a center differential and 4x4 uses a transfer case to send power to the front and rear.
@@TsavoTouringnope you're completely wrong all-wheel drive systems don't use a center differential that's a full-time four-wheel drive uses a center differential and a part-time four-wheel drive uses a transfer case all-wheel drive is completely different normally sends power to the rear wheels right from the transmission with no transfer case no differential and some all-wheel drive systems use clutches whether that be fluid-filled clutch like a Subaru or clutch packs on the rear wheels like Toyota does on some of their vehicles
@@davidaix5771 I wouldn’t say completely wrong… I’s have to look into more but 2/3 Subaru systems use a center diff - an STI with DCCD has a button that says “C. Diff + /-“ and Audis have used a center differential. I’m sure there are a ton of variations with different technologies that involve various clutch packs and electric motors… but “completely wrong” is always a pretty bold / silly response to almost anything in the comments section 🤷🏻♂️
But I liked the boring, reliable cars... That turbo is just gonna wreck the engine early...
Good for them, may actually consider a Toyota.
Checks price.
Nevermind.
“High performance bucket seats…”
😂😂😂
I have seen cars with those high performance window decals.
I definitely did not hear “bucket” at first when referring to the seats.
Had me like 👀
Me either 😂
Mine was retroactive. I heard bucket on my first couple of viewings. Then then on my fourth viewing I happen to be half paying attention, and then I didn't hear "buckets" I heard it completely different 😂😂😂😂
Lmao you guys put me on to it. Second go around I was like de he just say- nahhhh
Saaaaame 😂 literally had to rewind haha
“Wider than Kim Kardashian” is hilarious 💀
Wow great to hear Toyota is improving as a company
4wd selector switch is insane, i hope we see a revival of crazy awd cars like the 80s/90s
[Same]. Went straight to recollecting AWD Corollas and, of course, Celicas from the 90s.
In my area its $45k not even including taxes not to mention this has an overheating issue for the awd system… so much for Toyota reliability. Doubt the little engine would last under all that pressure too.
They've been lasting absolutely fine for years in the Yaris GR, and people are running them at 400hp.
@@yanceyboyzstock engine can take 500hp, it has been done already. I think it is very reliable at 400hp
Lol watching Toyota reliability go out the window 😂😂😂😂
My old neighbor called Toyota a Toyota corrodia with a 3speed column shift but he loved it. He even bought a truck. But that was back in the 70's 54 years ago!!🤔
$50k for a shitbox with a turbo and unsolved overheating issues? Hard pass.
Exactly
What would you spend that money on instead?
@@shhmuleSpend a quarter of that on a decent A to B with minor issues to fix and pocket the rest.
@@Shredneck92 that's why I have a 1994 diesel Nissan pickup with manual transmission.
Sustainable motoring at its best: not a throwaway car
I like having an older boring Toyota. It’s a joy to have a car so reliable it’s boring.
Toyota needs to remember their competitive advantage is being boring.
Mazdas are great option for not boring but yet under rated cars that are great driver experience wise
Nope….
My 2008 carolla is super boring but I love it. Feels like it's gonna last forever, wouldn't be surprised if it goes for another 10-15+ years. One of my sons will probably be using it as their first car when they turn 16.
Unrelated brand but thats why I love my old 91 Ford F-150 its rusty far from a show truck but pretty dang reliable with its 300 ci inline 6 cylinder and 5 speed manual. I don't care for fast take off speed or flashy looks just something that works to haul my tools to and from a job. I see old Toyota trucks all the time that look even more rust rotted than my Ford still chugging along am tempted getting one to save a little more on gas with a 4 cylinder. Also I wished small trucks would come back because my 1991 F-150 is a full sized truck and looks like a toy next to some of the behemoths Chevy Ford and Dodge have been making in recent years.
That ol Ford straight 6 is a reliable engine !
"That CEO needs a promotion"
A real manual transmission with gears actuated by a clutch?
I'm in.
Im convinced, in 2050 they'll just sell us a car with a sail on top and no engine for $50k but it'll have 17 cameras, apple car play, 4 flesh lights, 8 coolers, simulated snow and hell fire AND it'll drive and shop the grocery store for you without even having to be in the car (as long as its a windy enough day).
Apple carplay? Ew
That turbo is going to push the engine to breaking point… say goodbye to reliability
if you drive it like a fast car then yea
Toyota is phasing out its naturally aspirated engines for less reliable high output turbos... I told my family and friends to buy the last good ones if they want one new. T^T
@@viperrr6886 whats the point of buying this if youre not gonna drive fast lol
totally agree...this is a toy, not a car for daily driver use
It is a limited production hot hatch.
First of all, you're not necessarily correct. But more importantly, this is a special edition. Nobody would expect a 300hp hot hatch to have the same exact reliability as one with half as much power.
They need to do a 5 cylinder version. That would be a weapon
The 4x4 wheeler is wicked as well
Kim Kardashian was just chilling 😭
The Nissan Rogue has a three cylinder engine and they are routinely crapping out at about 60,000 miles.
I gun my 2015 Toyota Camry very often, a naturally aspirated 4 pot. It’s over 100K miles and didn’t skip a beat but, I prematurely wore out the engine mounts and replaced them at 80K.
@@davidperry4013100k is literally nothing. Check back up when you've reached actual Toyota status. 400k miles minimum
I think only the new ones have one? My grandma's 2020 came with the 2.5 and I can't see anything before 2024 about the 3-cylinder. Underrated engine when it's in sport mode, and that's coming from a guy who drives a manual 3.8 Eclipse
Don't compare Nissan to Toyota 😂 Nissan doesn't make as reliable engines as Toyota
Well that's Nissan for ya lol you know you can't beat Toyota reliability 👌
Toyota has read the tea leafs. Most all other auto manufacturers are bailing out on performance. Toyota is the 1st manufacturer to release a high performance 3cylinder in US.
geo?
Without a stick, "performance" is pointless
@@soaphelpsMaybe you missed "high performance"
@@MadScientist267 ZF 8 speed, PDK says otherwise....
@@bismayparida2115 Congrats. You can press a gas pedal, have the car drive for you, and go fast. I'm referring to actually *driving* the car.
I heard someone blew their engine with a missed shift...the replacement engine was around $43k.
"Wider than kim kardashian" 💀💀💀💀
Edit 1: woah 100 likes? I like this! Keep it going!
🤢The town bicycle
.....whoa
"A corolla that is wider than kim kardashian"
Insinuating that kim kardashian is wider than older corollas😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 my thoughts exactly
LOL 😂
I had to get out when he started talking about those "totally aggressive seats" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What's wrong with reliable, efficient, predictable, safe and economic?
Affordable
What's wrong with having 2 or 3 fun cars in the lineup?
@@benchmark3332 budget cost
Americans have more money then financial sense, that is what is wrong!
That's what this car is through and through.
“Wider that Kim Kardashian” 💀
Ikr 😂☠️
@@grahamo3434 Eww
Corolla coming back from the past with a hefty punch, good on toyota!
Will the real “ Doug please stand up “ 😂
Three cylinder engine with turbo......id like to see how this goes on the Toyota reliability chart compared to their non turbo 4 cylinder cousins
Time will tell, people fans of naturally aspirated engines don't have high hopes for this reliability.
I can't see it lasting for several hundred thousand miles like the old corollas. But at least Toyota usually makes good on a flop, at least when they first started building cars.
Maybe reliable in comparison to other 3 cylinder turbo cars for sure
NA cars are too slow now. Its not 1987 anymore lmao
Someone did a tear down of the motor pushed it and right now it'll do 500 ish before the head gaskets give out so they kinda over built the motor
"Less interesting than my left buttock." Almost spit my coffee on my tablet when I heard that, lol.
wow, you shouldn't spit out liquid coffee on your own tablet
@onLYbyM you want him to spit it in your mouth? 🎉
Who the hell has a tablet in this day and age?? 😂😂
“wider than kim kardashian”
lmao 😂
The fact that a guy in UK got the same exact engine up to 700 horsepower on stock internals is insane
Manual transmission Awesome!!
Which, they will stop producing sooner or later because people bitch and moan about manuals and never end up buying them
Needed on base models! Not just GR top trims 😢
Manual transmission sucks. Good luck in 4 hours traffic jam. Slower too.
@@roku_nineits awsome stick it in second and almost never change lol stop bitching you license less ass
@@roku_nineBuddy, then get literally any other car. You act like there’s a lack of auto trans vehicles. It’s not our fault you chose to live in LA.
You won’t see this baby hit 300k. It may get to 70-80k. Those big turbos will beat this engine into the ground
Probably a sick ass 50k miles
nah man wth? even german cars with turbo hold up longer than that.. brotha what u smokin
There are 1000 hp supras that survive well over 150K miles after modifications before a rebuild is needed and that’s 166 hp per cylinder with 3 liters of total displacement.
If you drive like an animal not even 100k.
@@davidperry4013 What are you yapping about young bloke? You are comparing fully built race engine GTE's to a factory G16. Im sorry to tell you, but if you genuinely think a G16 will EVER outlast a factory 2j gte or even an NA 2j, its over for you.
I told you in Jamaica Toyota means today tomorrow together Toyota is the way to go
😂😂😂 never thought I'd hear the day I'd say I want a Carolla
The stick shift,the ultimate anti theft device
only in the US
Do that few people really know how to drive stick shift?
@@themedic7933lots of the people who steal them can't, they usually can't swim either
You could bout leave it running!
Turbo charge that iron block on a geo and do a transmission swap. You'll be in business. 😂😂😂
Daihatsu also produced a 993 cc three. The turbo 12 valve version was the first car mass produced car with 100 hp per liter. They were in the Charade GTi. Toyota owns Daihatsu, which mostly builds 660 cc Kei cars.
Don't forget a rear shift light for the lazy automatic drivers
So a Mazda 323 GTX?
All wheel drive on a car like that? ... Impressive !
Worst part is the price, I can get a BMW M2 for the same cost
And the Beamer will still be less reliable
...i still wouldn't touch that M2 with a 10 ft pole...unless i were awash in money..
If you’re comparing a cheap model BMW to this, you deserve all the problems coming, just because you can get the price doesn’t mean maintenance is going to be the same price either. Gotta look at the bigger picture. Seen this plenty of times where people think they can do this. When they find out even the cheaper models can take premium gas that’s more expensive too. It all starts adding up and getting more expensive. You’re already paying more for maintenance and then on top of that premium gas lol
A used one yeah 😂
@@Anomize23obviously it takes premium gas…it’s an M car. M2 is not a cheap model BMW, it’s just the cheapest in the M lineup. Still an M, still premium, still performance oriented, still an awesome car, and yes…still expensive to maintain
Pocket Rocket Stick shift is PURE FUN
I would definitely drive one and think it's wicked awesome that you can get it in the standard, bet it's a fun one to drive🤙👏
My friend has one of these, he’s taken me out on mountain tracks going 60+ fun car
Toyota might have built "boring" cars, but those boring cars were extremely reliable, long-lasting, had engines that started up every time, and even the electronics lasted ages. This corolla might be more interesting, but at the cost of reliability which is what they're known for. That turbo charged engine is not going to make it to 100k without issues. The older models could surpass 200-300k and still be going strong. They would run circles around this. These cars manufacturers keep stuffing all this technology crap in these vehicles that hardly anyone knows what half of the buttons are, and cost a fortune to fix when they break (which is like, every three months 🤣). It becomes a distraction from the road and can cause accidents. You don't need it.
i agree, ill take their "boring" cars over this
Can't Toyota make a reliable AND not boring cars!!! Why can't they do it???
I guess you can't have the best of both worlds.
@@Lion_King_143 😄
@@Lion_King_143 We need to wait and see if its both reliable and not boring. Its not "boring" now but it could be "boring" in the next couple years.
Toyota is already well loved for their motorsports participation wym bro this Corolla just a good car on a overall terrible couple years of cars, that’s not Toyota’s fault everybody is making plastic cars not just them
The Ford Fiesta ST hat a 3 cylinder engine with 200HP
At least those were half the price of this. Markups included, there are honestly better $45k cars to choose from.
This guy thinks Toyota has only ever made sedate cars.
Don't expect him to know much about anything.
Idk why I thought he pulled a magic trick! I thought he walked to the passenger side to open the door but somehow was in the driver seat already! 🤦🏾♂️ 😂
That geo metro may not have any horse power but that G10 engine with five speed transmission got 50 miles to a gallon and it was common to see then with 300,000 plus miles ...
If this Toyota can do that , I'd buy one
Yeah let's see how long that three cylinder last with a turbo on it. My guess is head gaskets will have to be replaced in 100k.
If aussies can crank 670whp out of their stock internal gr yaris . Im sure this engine is extremely overbuilt
@@Kill4Time255 lol, I haven't heard of that. Sounds interesting. But also I doubt engines will make it to 100K if they're putting out 670 horsepower.
Toyota engineers know what they're doing.
Probably sooner than that
I'd rather have a four-banger non-interference motor, but that 6-speed transmission is quite juicy.
Without a plastic oil pan ans valve cover.
A centrifugal supercharged 2.5L Inline 4 with ITBs, red powder coated aluminum valve cover, and infinitely variable valve lift that makes over 325 hp and revs to over 8000
rpms would be pretty rad though.
A 300+ HP 2.5L NA 4 banger with ITBs would be awesome so that it’s hot hatch with a baby Ferrari V8.
@@davidperry4013 centrifugal supercharger with ITBs?
😂🤦♂️💀
“Wider than Kim Kardashian”😂😂
"...wider than Kim Kardashian..."
Come on Bruhhhh😂
100 HP per cylinder. 300HP out of a 3 cylinder, that engine is stressed out to the max.
Yup. They should have put a v6 or an inline 5 engine then and only then you should put a turbo on it
Powertune Australia ran their GR Yaris 6000 track miles with 680whp with stock internals. It blew when they tuned it to 800whp.
This motor is very overbuilt, and it is amazing because it weighs nothing, giving you great weight distribution.
Just don't keep your foot in it. Espesially as it gets older.
@@tylerknoll8135how about we take inspiration from the warthog. Instead of a gun on a plane its just a gun with wings. Maybe we just put a seat and wheels on a giant 4 cylinder.
I'm sold just give me duel hearing protection @@TheAnnoyingBoss
One feature that I will never want in my car seat is “aggressiveness”
You didnt have me until you said manual drive😂❤
Toyota finally got their mind together, not lost
Kim Kardashian: 👁️ 👄 👁️
literally
300hp from 3 cylinders is MAD.
Being excited about buying a car with an engine in 2024 is wild.
Been wondering why I keep seeing many beautiful Toyotas on the road
The boring cars was what we liked about you Toyota 😭 we’re going to lose reliability in the name of turbos and extra design parts
Agreed. I don't want cool. I want a RELIABLE car. With no bells and whistles. Ridiculous.
Definitely cool, but im also definitely worried about the long term reliability of a turbo, direct injected *3* cylinder. Turbo gas engines tend to not last as long as N/A due to higher cylinder pressures and the associated washdown, same goes for GDI tech, and 3 cyl engines are inherently less valanced than even cylinder engines. I see this as a 250k mile car tops before a rebuild is necessary. Time will tell
I think the 3 cylinder can be reliable on its own but the turbo is what makes it questionable. I think i saw an article in which someone already drove the new Civic Si over 200,000 miles and it's still doing fine. That has a 4 cylinder turbo though, so who knows what will happen with the GR Corolla. The 3 cylinder seems new for Toyota whereas Honda for example has been putting the 1.5T in their cars for at least few years now
@@ufork stuff like this can definitely last a couple hundred thousand, especially when grandpa owns it, since he'll never rev it past 4k, and change the oil 500 miles early. I do however think the golden era of 90s honda and toyota products that last 300k when abused and 500k when lovingly maintained are long over 😔
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 wrong that would be the worst driver. Carbon buildup would kill in in 30k
I mean, it's not rocket science that a turbo motor will have reliability issues over N/A cars. You're forcing more air into the cylinders. The issue with that statement is you assume that the engineers didn't account for that extra pressure which is why most forced inducted engines have forged rotating assemblies and better breathing head/s. They didn't just throw a 3 turbo on a 3 cylinder and called it good.
@@TheWholeGrainBread_Real I do account for it. I co-owned and operated a machine shop from 2007-2015. Forged rotating assembly or not has nothing to do with the blow by associated with high cylinder pressures. Nothing at all. That comes down to piston ring metallurgy/tolerances/cylinder pressures. Not crank, not rods, nor piston metallurgy. I know you're just talking out of your 🍑 because I mentioned cylinder washdown, and you had to bring up forged internals. I need to just turn off notifications for this thread because I know it's going to attract know-it-all armchair engineers who've never spun a wrench to pay rent.
The only car company that have not lost their mind - history will show!
Just what we need. Super high-speed Toyotas. Can't wait until new drivers get their hands on these.
Really, I could have waited a long time.
I remember my old Corolla had over 350k miles, swear it was always on S but always mad it back home, never oil changed it and it went through many accidents. She wasn’t pretty but she was reliable and always took care of me, probably should’ve taken better care of her, RIP red fugly Toyota 🕊️
That oil change was kinda important
When your car has more accidents than oil changes
Looks like ur that guy that never take good care of ur car.
Woah guys, chill. Some people just don’t know any better. I’ve seen plenty of destroyed engine from customers simply not changing their oil. No need to hate
There are a lot of really cool cars at that price point. All of them have more than 3 cylinders too.
maybe what you didn't notice is that it doesn't cost them any more to make look cool to distract you from the measurable decrease in quality that people are complaining about
MSRP of +36k for a corolla is absurd. A good alternative is the Civic Si. Not that this car is bad or anything.
Just wait a few seconds…
Aaand it’s 15k
They need to make this in a 3-door hatchback.
But no one is buying them.
@@benchmark3332 "They NEED to make this!"
"Would you buy it?"
"No"
@@surj138 Like those videos about how manual transmission is better, but they all drive automatic.
When Lexus takes over and your prices show it💯