or that leggy that insanely buffs ams......looks gamebreaking for pvp. green bubble that heals up to 20 sec with an unholy talent? it usually only lasts 5 seconds and does not heal you....i mean in duels that legg that buffs your ghoul is strong, too, but in a 3vs3 arena i rather take that op bubble, so 2 burst of dds heals me instead of killing me?
Oh yeah, not to mention that 2h is back for fdk. There's nothing more satisfying than copying a mages blink, and just when they think they're safe, blink urself, and then finish them off.
Thank you for making the mentioned spell icons and descriptions much larger! I noticed and appreciated the change greatly. I'm very excited that you finally covered my class and took my prior criticism constructively. I'll catch yea in Shadowlands.
I am SOOOOO STOKED about frost DKs getting 2h back. I was a BEAST back in the day as a frost dk. :) I can only imagine what the look on the enemy mages face was like when they blinked away and thought they were safe only to see me copy their blink with dark sim, blink next to them, and pop the finishing blow. Ahhhh the good old days.
Although not a big deal anymore, Orc racial also provides pet damage increase by 1%. another benefit if you go Unholy. I havent seen anyone test it yet, but with UH focusing more on pets in SL the dmg might be a little nicer than expected.
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 "not a big deal anymore" - Any advantage no mater how small, is still an advantage. Also 1 pet gets 1% dmg buff. If I have 10 pets. I therefor have a 10% dmg buff for my pets. Unless of course blizz only wants to give the buff to your main pet. Which is why I mentioned the testing.
@@sarneus117 that's not how math works dude. it's 1% overall pet damage. that means each pet has 1% for their own personal damage. not 10% overall damage... You really think that's "10% damage buff for my pets"?? m.a.t.h. if your pets OVERALL are 50% of your damage, then it's a 0.5% total damage buff (1% of 1/2 of your damage is 1/2 of 1%)... it's not a big deal anymore means it might not actually be an advantage, wherein some things, such as arcane torrent dispel, may prove to be more beneficial now.
Cervantes build is rly promising playing with harbringer and use the conduit for death coil to deal 40% more dmg while sudden doom coil is used i hope clawing shadows build stay im tired of spaming necrotics and see no results
So compared to the last season (4 of BFA), do you believe DK overall will have an easier time obtaining Glad and finding groups or harder? I ask because in my journey to get glad with my DK, the main struggle I found was finding groups. TSG wasnt really a thing and everyone only wanted mage/rogues/DH/Locks or WW...maybe a war if its a lock. DK didnt feel weak just unwanted.
I too would like to know this, but I'm assuming unless you're running the Necrotic Strike build where Rune of the Apocalypse might be viable. going with Fallen Crusader is probably the safest.
im currently playing with 2x1h frost with rune of sanguination and the legendary death touch and ive got to say that im having a blast. due to the meta being heavily focused on burst damages, it makes you so tanky its really enjoyable. im really looking forward for the arena season!
No because you have to use chains a lot throughout the game anyway you will never got up to all 20 stacks even if cold heart wasn’t nerfed you still wouldn’t play it
Nice too see this videos since I’m switching to my DK from Shaman main. But since it was delay there is going to be so many class and other changes making this video already obsolete?
I really wish they would add a ranged way to apply wounds for unholy dk other than the pet. But I'm sure I'm alone in the thought and it would potentially be over powered.
what about that leggy that improves ams? It makes ams last longer and heals, and, as unholy dk it lasts up to 20 sec with another ams talent. Unerfed this seems pretty op. I dont see the same with those other 2 dmg leggies, that give just a minor dmg increase?
are you sure its not 100% of the regular 5s AMS? And the talent add 5 more seconds, which would make it a 15s shield? 15 secs is good but 20 seems very good in pvp if thats how it is! And on live servers my shield with the talent absorbs a bit over 42% of my hp as unholy and ilvl 475! So in pvp its def a good legendary against casters, the survivability would be extreme with AMZ, AMS, lichborn+DC heal, IBF, pet sacrifice(25% hp if i remember) and death strike aswell! that is alot for a DD and i guess casters wont focus DK's and rather just cc haha, but thats just thoughts!
@@joshuaanderson3889 well, most dmg is magic dmg, its not just about casters many melees do magic dmg as well, so ams should always be strong. For instance, DH hunter does chaos dmg and ret holy. afaik, ams legendary is the best pvp leg for unholy. As frost you need obliterate legendary, but frost is much better in group pvp.
@@zeusapollo6504 yeah but i personally like koltiras favor a lot more and vs most things that do bursty magic dmg the base dk tool kit is already good enough and once people see you have that legendary they will never touch you again and its wasted so i think its good but not amazing.
I mean if hes a good DK thats all that matters imho. Idgaf what they do on their own time albeit dumb af or not. If hes a top tier DK he has info on the class
There's a right and wrong way to scale. I'd like it if all gear would be scaled to a minimum starting number, so we could compete right out of the gate, without being absolutely useless.
can you get relentless on human in shadowlands ? i kinda need to know this :D cause if i have to have medalion for the pvp versa set bonus i might just change my dk into a dwarf/gnome/drenai :D ... cause if i have to keep my medalion on human racial is literally non existant :D
@@WickdGamr ye but don't we get some sort of versa bonus when we have both the medalion and a battle master ? or is that still alot weaker then 2 trinks ?
@@ShogunLazo there is and if you really wanted the versa increase it's there. Its just not as good as running two offensive trinkets on human. Really would only take versa focus on classes that prioritize the stat or suffer on survival. Which is not a dk issue.
@@WickdGamr but the versa buff would only apply to healing and dmg it wont apply to survivability that was the thing and blizz say they want to make a big bonus so people will stop using pve trinkets thats wuts buggin me :(
@@WickdGamr cause if they to end up buffing it to a point where versa bonus is better then the pve trinket why even play a human :( would have to turn my human into a drenai or dwarf or something
@@drios8809 the problem is the hp amount heal... right now, lets suppose your hp is 60k, each death coil will heal for like 4k at best. i remember back in wod, unholy dks could heal to full hp using this triick, but now they can heal like 20% hp in best case cenario
@@miramalverick2767 well thats kinda dissapointing. Well it can still be usefull in pvp to heal back if people use evasion and such shit that you can't ds heal
@@drios8809 Not to forget you need to be in melee range to death strike VS lich+coil self healing if full RP bar can do it whilst being kitted and burned down
For consistent damage Razorice is the best because you do not have to rely on a proc however you will need multiple weapons because spellwarding and sanguination are the best situationally
I like how you didn't mention glacial advance is good for weapon swapping to do more frost damages if you used double razior enchant on ur DW to stack it up then switch to 2H to get a bigger obliterate damages from Killing Machine proc lol
Yomamapkme because that’s degenerate gameplay, and Not intended by blizzard as being viable They have patched out weapon swapping in the past every time it’s been a thing with any spec
@@WickdGamr they literally patched it out. they didn't have to rework any classes. DK weapon runeforges effect has a 30 second cooldown when weapon swapped.
I don't agree with going Icecap. First off, crit is not as good in pvp and i don't think you would ever stack it enough to give Icecap value, and Icecap has lost all the borrowed power that made it insanely strong. Secondly, the talent Obliteration makes every 2nd global during Pillar be a huuuuuge Obliterate crit guaranteed. Since, it gives a 100% killing machine procc, and the killing machine procc turns Obliterate damage into frost dmg, scaling with the frost DK mastery. Lastly, if you want continued credibility in your otherwise really solid content, please stop collaborating with Cervantes...
how is frost better than uh in shadowlands? as far as prepatch goes frost feels absolutely horrible the obliterate procs are super rare and hit for a mediocre amount, whereas uh isnt god tier baseline but has a very strong burst window in 90s with transformation, apocalypse and abomination in conjunction.
How do you become a Death Knight? It's locked in the character creation screen. Game says something about hero class and a level 10 requirement, and the info online says different stuff.
I’m just happy that Necrolord is BiS for DK PvP. To PvP without necrotic strike is so alien to me... Also, to whoever made Gargoyle a talent again instead of baseline, I hate you 😑
And the more mastery the bigger damage it deals making it really decent on one target. It also goes well in the class fantasy and should be baseline, it added flavor...
Just said the entire spec isn’t predicated on chill streak anymore, but it’s still a powerful combo In bfa it was basically dot dmg + chill streak as your only source of damage
mongoose mcmongoose still it’s the only way that FDK will deal damage in pvp yet, there was no alternative way where u don’t use it. no way where u use stun not blind, still not possible to play high rank in 2’s cause chill streak will work mostly in 3’s but man I wanna play FDK be good so much, Iam just noticing the bad moments of FDK
@@CatsFor_Life that's the thing its not all about the 1 pvp talent anymore while it is still really good its not the only thing you have going for you personally I like having both because I didn't like only having chillstreak damage but just being a dh and mindless pumping damage into people with no setup at all is also really boring so I really like how frost dk is atm
@@joshuaanderson3889 idk man, I haven't tried it in the pre patch because I've been playing warrior, but back in MoP, death coil self heal, which I could get 3 off inside of a lichbourne, was like 70% hp.
@@Primal_Echo with a full bar of runic power spamming death coil into yourself you might get like 15% of your hp unless you have a massive strength buff or something
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 I don't have to be rank 1 to have an opinion on something. That frost guide is trash and you will see how it will get changed when shadowlands releases
@@maloum1550 You didn't formulate an opinion, you stated "so many wrong talents on frost"... so like I said, if you're going to tell Cervantes how to play, please let me know when you're better than him at PvP, because your statement is that you know more than him.
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 he isn't wrong. For starters, why would you run Runic Attenuation with Gathering Storm when you can run Murderous Efficiency with more rune generation to buff your Remorseless Winter even more? Secondly, Icecap got a severe nerf with the loss of the Azerite traits that made it viable to play to begin with. Obliteration handedly outperforms Icecap. Thirdly, why would you need to run Wraith Walk while playing as a necrolord? You can run Death Pact as a emergency heal and make yourself even more hard to kill. Also, Blind Sleet vs Asphyxiate is kind of preferential. In 3v3 Blind Sleet may have the potential for outplay potential but 2H frost builds focus on heavy single target making Asphyxiate more viable. Its a guaranteed hard stun that isn't deterred by damage. It allows for a burst kill to a single target far more efficiently.
Amazing vid!!!! I got gladiator as frost dk and I got all my achievements as a frost dk so I will continue play FDk! Thanks!
I think dark sim will see a lot more play since you can dark sim covenant spells like mind games etc. Nice guide overall :)
who
or that leggy that insanely buffs ams......looks gamebreaking for pvp. green bubble that heals up to 20 sec with an unholy talent? it usually only lasts 5 seconds and does not heal you....i mean in duels that legg that buffs your ghoul is strong, too, but in a 3vs3 arena i rather take that op bubble, so 2 burst of dds heals me instead of killing me?
@@mightybigb00 wHoOoOOoooOo? 🤪🤪🤪🤪 huehuehueheue
Oh yeah, not to mention that 2h is back for fdk. There's nothing more satisfying than copying a mages blink, and just when they think they're safe, blink urself, and then finish them off.
Echo yesterday i got pally wing, oh boy!
Thank you for making the mentioned spell icons and descriptions much larger! I noticed and appreciated the change greatly.
I'm very excited that you finally covered my class and took my prior criticism constructively. I'll catch yea in Shadowlands.
Lol cervantes the guy who bought Mythic nzoth with rl cash got banned and had to start again?
What really ? I watch the guy play something but I don't like him
Really that is why he got banned?
@@nedbear1970 Yeah he got caught and his main account got perma banned
Simon pretty sure he just got his main back.
To be fair, maybe if pvp gave the best pvp gear this wouldn't happen
I am SOOOOO STOKED about frost DKs getting 2h back. I was a BEAST back in the day as a frost dk. :) I can only imagine what the look on the enemy mages face was like when they blinked away and thought they were safe only to see me copy their blink with dark sim, blink next to them, and pop the finishing blow. Ahhhh the good old days.
Although not a big deal anymore, Orc racial also provides pet damage increase by 1%. another benefit if you go Unholy.
I havent seen anyone test it yet, but with UH focusing more on pets in SL the dmg might be a little nicer than expected.
Sarn 1% is pretty meh. If pets are 50% of your overall damage then that racials is only 0.5% boost
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 "not a big deal anymore" - Any advantage no mater how small, is still an advantage.
Also 1 pet gets 1% dmg buff. If I have 10 pets. I therefor have a 10% dmg buff for my pets.
Unless of course blizz only wants to give the buff to your main pet. Which is why I mentioned the testing.
@@sarneus117 that's not how math works dude.
it's 1% overall pet damage.
that means each pet has 1% for their own personal damage.
not 10% overall damage...
You really think that's "10% damage buff for my pets"??
m.a.t.h.
if your pets OVERALL are 50% of your damage, then it's a 0.5% total damage buff (1% of 1/2 of your damage is 1/2 of 1%)...
it's not a big deal anymore means it might not actually be an advantage, wherein some things, such as arcane torrent dispel, may prove to be more beneficial now.
I wouldn't recommend collaborating with snakes
Or Giant Rat
true
Cervantes build is rly promising playing with harbringer and use the conduit for death coil to deal 40% more dmg while sudden doom coil is used i hope clawing shadows build stay im tired of spaming necrotics and see no results
Sweet! Exactly what I was looking for!
So compared to the last season (4 of BFA), do you believe DK overall will have an easier time obtaining Glad and finding groups or harder? I ask because in my journey to get glad with my DK, the main struggle I found was finding groups. TSG wasnt really a thing and everyone only wanted mage/rogues/DH/Locks or WW...maybe a war if its a lock. DK didnt feel weak just unwanted.
Finally the video that I waited for só long time!! Very good work guys!!!
No Highmountain Tauren DK? They have an additional gap closer and increased Versa
What about the new Runes for runeforging?
I too would like to know this, but I'm assuming unless you're running the Necrotic Strike build where Rune of the Apocalypse might be viable. going with Fallen Crusader is probably the safest.
@@TheMasasame definitely between the two. I’ve tried both. I think apocalypse might be the play regardless. But main stat is insane rn so idk
im currently playing with 2x1h frost with rune of sanguination and the legendary death touch and ive got to say that im having a blast. due to the meta being heavily focused on burst damages, it makes you so tanky its really enjoyable. im really looking forward for the arena season!
Post-nerf guide?
If you go with the necrotic strike build do you just replace scourge strike with necrotic strike? Or would you still cast scourge strikes?
Isn't cold heart way better damage wise ? overall if it crit that's like 30% of the enemy HP in one GCD at least
No because you have to use chains a lot throughout the game anyway you will never got up to all 20 stacks even if cold heart wasn’t nerfed you still wouldn’t play it
@@joshuaanderson3889 ah I see
Thanks for the nice guide.
What stats are you putting on your legendary?
Which runic weapon its best for each spec?
Great ! Sounds good
Nice too see this videos since I’m switching to my DK from Shaman main. But since it was delay there is going to be so many class and other changes making this video already obsolete?
I really wish they would add a ranged way to apply wounds for unholy dk other than the pet. But I'm sure I'm alone in the thought and it would potentially be over powered.
Cervantes??? No thank you.
How do u get all these conduits ?
Who's the main skill cap voicer?
what are the stats prio lol! mastery>haste>versatility?
For arena Mastery>Versa>Haste>Crit
what about that leggy that improves ams? It makes ams last longer and heals, and, as unholy dk it lasts up to 20 sec with another ams talent. Unerfed this seems pretty op. I dont see the same with those other 2 dmg leggies, that give just a minor dmg increase?
are you sure its not 100% of the regular 5s AMS? And the talent add 5 more seconds, which would make it a 15s shield? 15 secs is good but 20 seems very good in pvp if thats how it is!
And on live servers my shield with the talent absorbs a bit over 42% of my hp as unholy and ilvl 475!
So in pvp its def a good legendary against casters, the survivability would be extreme with AMZ, AMS, lichborn+DC heal, IBF, pet sacrifice(25% hp if i remember) and death strike aswell! that is alot for a DD and i guess casters wont focus DK's and rather just cc haha, but thats just thoughts!
It is really good however dk will rarely ever be that target vs casters so you have to be 100% sure they will go you if your gonna play it
@@joshuaanderson3889 well, most dmg is magic dmg, its not just about casters many melees do magic dmg as well, so ams should always be strong. For instance, DH hunter does chaos dmg and ret holy. afaik, ams legendary is the best pvp leg for unholy. As frost you need obliterate legendary, but frost is much better in group pvp.
@@zeusapollo6504 yeah but i personally like koltiras favor a lot more and vs most things that do bursty magic dmg the base dk tool kit is already good enough and once people see you have that legendary they will never touch you again and its wasted so i think its good but not amazing.
@@joshuaanderson3889 yeah, in arenas, but this was meant for SOLO wpvp/duels.
Great video
Cervantes is a bad person. I'd avoid doing business with him.
More info please
@@douglasdiggins8296 he scamed for a lot of money in PvP tournaments
@@douglasdiggins8296 watch Savix's video, How to catch a Rat in WoW
I mean if hes a good DK thats all that matters imho. Idgaf what they do on their own time albeit dumb af or not. If hes a top tier DK he has info on the class
@@nicholasokeefe3632 True, but there's plenty other to choose from. I'd start with Mes.
love ur vids but dont collab with this fool
what fool?
@@yomamapkme Cervantes
Marvsky why not?
ytue
Is PvP scaling still a thing in shadowlands? If yes I'll pass the expansion
There's a right and wrong way to scale. I'd like it if all gear would be scaled to a minimum starting number, so we could compete right out of the gate, without being absolutely useless.
@@JustinKork but the way is implemented now is a nightmare. Better without
@@robertdragusin5302 Absolutely
It doesnt exist from my testing, nothing official about the topic from blizz tho so that can be bugged as far as im concerned
@@bye6932 tnx for the info
To the new people watching this guide, i suggest checking out Mes and his reccomendations, Cervantes seems clueless from what he is reccomending.
Is dual-wielding still good if you play frost?
@Eric Shutup Is that still good enough in pvp?
I'll stick with Zandalari DK 😁
Other than the fact that they look awesome, why?
@@WickdGamr just cause they look awesome 😁
@@ExiledtoVampa i figured 🤣
great overview, just want to get on SL, testing PTRs getting boring
can you get relentless on human in shadowlands ? i kinda need to know this :D cause if i have to have medalion for the pvp versa set bonus i might just change my dk into a dwarf/gnome/drenai :D ... cause if i have to keep my medalion on human racial is literally non existant :D
Its a trinket so its not worth running.
@@WickdGamr ye but don't we get some sort of versa bonus when we have both the medalion and a battle master ? or is that still alot weaker then 2 trinks ?
@@ShogunLazo there is and if you really wanted the versa increase it's there. Its just not as good as running two offensive trinkets on human. Really would only take versa focus on classes that prioritize the stat or suffer on survival. Which is not a dk issue.
@@WickdGamr but the versa buff would only apply to healing and dmg it wont apply to survivability that was the thing and blizz say they want to make a big bonus so people will stop using pve trinkets thats wuts buggin me :(
@@WickdGamr cause if they to end up buffing it to a point where versa bonus is better then the pve trinket why even play a human :( would have to turn my human into a drenai or dwarf or something
I've always found myself performing better with undead.
Survival Hunter PvP guide pls... Thx!
1:23, huge self heals? oh i wish, but spending runic power on death strike ultimately heals more last time i checked
Unless your going to use covenant abbilties that reduce runic power cost of death coil
@@drios8809 the problem is the hp amount heal... right now, lets suppose your hp is 60k, each death coil will heal for like 4k at best.
i remember back in wod, unholy dks could heal to full hp using this triick, but now they can heal like 20% hp in best case cenario
@@miramalverick2767 well thats kinda dissapointing. Well it can still be usefull in pvp to heal back if people use evasion and such shit that you can't ds heal
@@drios8809 Not to forget you need to be in melee range to death strike VS lich+coil self healing if full RP bar can do it whilst being kitted and burned down
you would be wrong deathstrike got stealth nerfed and is a worthless heal atm
frozen pulse is better for 2h frost ? i dont think so, pick avalanche feels better and consistent
T0RKE frozen pulse would typically provide more st sustain, and with emp run weapon giving haste it will most likely boost ST burst windows
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 yes, in a dual wield situation, but in with 2h keeps that more st sustain damage?¿
@@Shotek90 potentially, it honestly would need to be tested, because the haste could prove more useful with the 2h
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 okay, ty mate
What is the best runeforging option? :/
For consistent damage Razorice is the best because you do not have to rely on a proc however you will need multiple weapons because spellwarding and sanguination are the best situationally
cervantes = -
lolol
FINALLYYYYY
Too bad this guide is outdated as frost dk damage has been nerfed.
How much?
@@Zel that much that its not worth to play
i saw the nubkeks video and dps is worst than a fury warrior now lol
@@DonnyDeleto Nice fake news
@@grilledleeks6514 it is not good man
I like how you didn't mention glacial advance is good for weapon swapping to do more frost damages if you used double razior enchant on ur DW to stack it up then switch to 2H to get a bigger obliterate damages from Killing Machine proc lol
Yomamapkme because that’s degenerate gameplay, and Not intended by blizzard as being viable
They have patched out weapon swapping in the past every time it’s been a thing with any spec
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 they would have to rework multiple classes if they patched it out now. So don't expect it.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to realize this. Makes a beautiful burst combo. But shhhhh lol
@@WickdGamr they literally patched it out. they didn't have to rework any classes. DK weapon runeforges effect has a 30 second cooldown when weapon swapped.
I don't agree with going Icecap. First off, crit is not as good in pvp and i don't think you would ever stack it enough to give Icecap value, and Icecap has lost all the borrowed power that made it insanely strong. Secondly, the talent Obliteration makes every 2nd global during Pillar be a huuuuuge Obliterate crit guaranteed. Since, it gives a 100% killing machine procc, and the killing machine procc turns Obliterate damage into frost dmg, scaling with the frost DK mastery.
Lastly, if you want continued credibility in your otherwise really solid content, please stop collaborating with Cervantes...
This 100%. I like this channel but there have been a few videos where info is outdated. Obliteration gives insane burst every 45 seconds.
Yup, i have no idea what is going on with this channel nowadays
What about mechagnome?
Oh yeah it's finally out :D
Sucks that those huge frost nerfs came after yall made this
...what nerfs?
Since when Every Man for Himself is called Will to Survive? And why did they rename it?
Every Man for Himself is a way better name imo I'm sad
They changed it to please the feminists
@@maloum1550 that actually makes sense, still would've preferred they kept it but whatever
@@maloum1550 Blizzard is now a WOKE company lol
2h vs dual and runeforge... missing info..
2H/Fallen crusader. Doesn't need to be mentioned.
@@feridad1928 ya but what is stronger 2h or dual wield.. Cause dual has 2...
@@igurkii4497 2hander in SL. Your dps will be mainly from obliterate.
watching your videos, very informative, but as a new player you spoke really fast and I had a hard time keeping up.
how is frost better than uh in shadowlands? as far as prepatch goes frost feels absolutely horrible the obliterate procs are super rare and hit for a mediocre amount, whereas uh isnt god tier baseline but has a very strong burst window in 90s with transformation, apocalypse and abomination in conjunction.
Necrotic strike is useless when u have 30k hp and die in 3s-5s.
How do you become a Death Knight? It's locked in the character creation screen. Game says something about hero class and a level 10 requirement, and the info online says different stuff.
Level a character to level 10 then go make one. That should be all you need
I’m just happy that Necrolord is BiS for DK PvP. To PvP without necrotic strike is so alien to me... Also, to whoever made Gargoyle a talent again instead of baseline, I hate you 😑
For real...
Doesn’t really matter gargoyle does practically negative damage
@@joshuaanderson3889 But if it's baseline, it's free damage.. and it looks cool!
@@DrewDynamiteTV big fax
And the more mastery the bigger damage it deals making it really decent on one target. It also goes well in the class fantasy and should be baseline, it added flavor...
As an unholy dk who puts the pressure on - n o
I wish unholy was really as good as it sounded...
Blood?
Anyone got a badass name for an orc do.
lol cervantes plus frost dks were nerfed like yesterday and they're now utter trash tier B at most. I'm still waiting for ret paladin guide
Put PVP in your title.
Snakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
ok yes
-Now frost DK can do damage without chill streak
-Take Blind so you can setup for chill streak
Just said the entire spec isn’t predicated on chill streak anymore, but it’s still a powerful combo
In bfa it was basically dot dmg + chill streak as your only source of damage
mongoose mcmongoose still it’s the only way that FDK will deal damage in pvp yet, there was no alternative way where u don’t use it. no way where u use stun not blind, still not possible to play high rank in 2’s cause chill streak will work mostly in 3’s but man I wanna play FDK be good so much, Iam just noticing the bad moments of FDK
That’s gonna be why frost dk will be good you will have the consistent damage and those setups
@@joshuaanderson3889 I don’t want all setup to be about 1 pvp talent it is stupid
@@CatsFor_Life that's the thing its not all about the 1 pvp talent anymore while it is still really good its not the only thing you have going for you personally I like having both because I didn't like only having chillstreak damage but just being a dh and mindless pumping damage into people with no setup at all is also really boring so I really like how frost dk is atm
There should be a comment about the two death grips legendary, com'on
and the ams leggy looks like a game changer in arena.
Can you please do Blood DK for Battleground PvP?
Ew
@@jesserothhammer7378 yeah... I take it back. Fck tanks in pvp.
@@NeonKix exactly
"pick up relentless" does this guy not know?
is there a relentless trink?
Pero todo cambio cuando después de ver este video, vinieron los nerfs a los legendarios.
Where is the obliteration build? that will be most likely the new meta for pvp
More like Cervantsnake
THIS VIDEO IS WRONG! BEST RACE FOR DK IS PANDAREN
krucafuks123 i second this! Quaking palm adds cc to the toolkit and swing animations are pog!
"Above average tools for surviving" you couldn't be more wrong
Nah bro, we finally got lichbourne back to death coil ourselves. Not to mention the 20% hp ability you get from the covenant.
@@Primal_Echo lichborne self healing is mediocre and yeah pet sac is pretty much all we have now
@@joshuaanderson3889 idk man, I haven't tried it in the pre patch because I've been playing warrior, but back in MoP, death coil self heal, which I could get 3 off inside of a lichbourne, was like 70% hp.
@@Primal_Echo with a full bar of runic power spamming death coil into yourself you might get like 15% of your hp unless you have a massive strength buff or something
@@joshuaanderson3889 as frost?? Jesus Christ, that's awful.
Disliked for Cerv involvement.
10% are listening to the guide
90% are wondering why the f it has to be stupid Cervantes
Emeni is a way better soulbind for unholy.
always downvote snake
Look the guy who doesnt make things for money @savix
cerventos. no thank you
will to survive? what the fuck happened to every man
fk cervantes
Frost dk and uh dk just got gutted need new video.
facts
great video except that rat in it
So many wrong talents on frost.... Seems like Cervantes is clueless on how the spec plays
Let me know when you’re better than him at pvp
I’ll wait
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 I don't have to be rank 1 to have an opinion on something. That frost guide is trash and you will see how it will get changed when shadowlands releases
@@maloum1550 You didn't formulate an opinion, you stated "so many wrong talents on frost"... so like I said, if you're going to tell Cervantes how to play, please let me know when you're better than him at PvP, because your statement is that you know more than him.
Not really all the talents are the bis ones from bfa still pretty much just maybe now you run obliteration so you hit harder in your pillars
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 he isn't wrong. For starters, why would you run Runic Attenuation with Gathering Storm when you can run Murderous Efficiency with more rune generation to buff your Remorseless Winter even more? Secondly, Icecap got a severe nerf with the loss of the Azerite traits that made it viable to play to begin with. Obliteration handedly outperforms Icecap. Thirdly, why would you need to run Wraith Walk while playing as a necrolord? You can run Death Pact as a emergency heal and make yourself even more hard to kill. Also, Blind Sleet vs Asphyxiate is kind of preferential. In 3v3 Blind Sleet may have the potential for outplay potential but 2H frost builds focus on heavy single target making Asphyxiate more viable. Its a guaranteed hard stun that isn't deterred by damage. It allows for a burst kill to a single target far more efficiently.