sweet man! very well explained. always played dks and super excited to go back to frost with this spec. thanks man, your guides are as always awesome and super appriciated!
Hi Hazzed, thanks for sharing these guides on YT. Im trying get into the arena but burst meta is just so hard for newbie like me. Still can't decide whether i prefer more Frost or Unholy DK (love them both). Also, is it possible to put Macros under the video description? Thanks a lot. Stay safe and good luck.
Super informative video @Hazzed, awesome!. Sorry for the essay question! At 18:45 in the burst rotation you Frostwyrm fury and chillstreak after Pillar drops off (and arena trinket drops off for the chillstreak). As both multiply on our attack power, and Pillar ramps up towards the end of its duration, how important to our burst is it that we get these 2 moves off during the PoF+Trink duration? I noticed you remorseless winter too after popping trinks, but between your first frost strike and first obliterate, do you think it's worth using a global on remorseless during the PoF/Trink burst if pressing it before we PoF/Trink means we could get 1 more big obliterate crit off during the POF burst window, OR guarantee we get Frostwyrm+chillstreak off during that burst window? I know Frostwyrm/Chillstreak is pretty situational based on when the healer trinkets out of CC, and it's pretty unlikely we ever get free reign to just slam the Obliterate+FS/HB rotation in to a target during PoF without having to press something else, I just wondered if you think we should be prioritising getting our big moves in during the PoF window?
You really want to maximize the CC chains with damage as much as possible. That chill streak perfectly set up will deal WAY more damage then oblits will. Plus its the combined burst pressure that lands kills. I think its worth it to increase burst pressure. Normally i RW before burst.
I watch flarkness on stream and your vids and i just feel like dk is weak, no big i win button, ( the hunt, convoke the spirits, ect ect) i just die. Feels bad, any advice? If you would link me some of your vods (if you stream) ill deff give em a watch
Dont look for i win buttons, they usually get nerfed. Frost dk is okay, games mot balanced around solo or even 2s. Frost dk shines with almost every comp thats why i play it, also you can bully clothies easy
@@darksword1337 yeah i had no choice but to switch i tried arena today and my dps was really bad anyways keep up the good work man your videos give us hope in DK frost ^^
I just discovered you! Amazing Videos. Do you not show name plates? I love the Clean UI! do you use any addons (Just damage meter?)? And do you ever turn on Nameplates? And Do you use key binds for targeting arena targets? if so what do you use?
Very nice vid. can't wait to get going in some duos. For your focused macros, do you have 2nd key bind to land those? or any pro-tip you might care to share with us/me. Thanks again!
hi hazzed an other one good video as always.i have a question do you believe frost dk with dh is viable for double dps in arenas ?or we need something with heal like pala for more survivability?
Hey brotha, do you think you can share your arena macros specifically? Like your target macros and your focus kick macros and grip macros etc? I know you shared the survivability macros and those are so goddamn helpful, but I also find myself consantly having to click on enemy frames to kick them then click back on the other enemy and by that time a million things have happened and I've just clicked names instead of actually living and doing damaage.
so, i play the exact same comp in 2s and i must say, just by the fact you've got a pally by your side you can rest easily when you face double rogues or rogue/MM. that being said, i personally play with exsanguination rune witch is an absolutely insane rune for 2s in my opinion. giving you back 50% of your life when you get bursted is just too good. And on top of that im using the magic shield legendary, and im basically immortal to magic damages. the only problems we have faced so far (1k9 CR) are solid enhancement sham comp. as ret being an anti melee and dk being an anti mage this 2v2 comp is fairly solid in the current meta, but enhancement sham... oh boi, when they pop ascendance, you better use all the CCs you got to stop him, the physical burst is just too good atm and can dispel bop.
I tried it myself as frost with my friend arms, 3s with healer is so much better, if you really wanna go 2s then try with WW for higher burst. Both frost and arms will shine more in 3s.
Hazzed! Great video as always. Can you make a guide about how to find a partner that wants to push rating and knows what he is doing at the same time?:))) That is what nobody on youtube can solve at the moment :D
@@darksword1337 Yeah I think that’s our biggest issue, we played 2s and sometimes we one shot if they’re bad but if they go lock I can’t peel enough for him to live. Thanks!
Yea it is tough playing against ranged classes who keep a good distance apart. Also hard to pug and find a solid partner to grind with. I really enjoy playing ret/ fdk 2s, games are relatively fast and ret are STRONG.
@@jonnyfreshtv6598 Oh yea, they are such a strong melee counter but fall short with casters. Why i went Necrolord to give us both uptime and run AMZ to counter their weakness. They give us healing and freedoms to counter ours. Strong 2v2 comp.
Rets are carrying hard right now for double dps teams, even all the top steamers (other than rogue/mage of course) are either a ret themselves or playing with one. Frost dk is very weak right now, you pretty much need the ret carry to get anywhere at the moment.
@@Cale779 yea I’m having such a hard time landing good chill streaks in twos at the moment even with a Ret... ranged teams just kite and dps.. healers los to no other. Can’t seem to find a good run of games to grind that rating.
I've given up on arena. It seems that every single player is just miles better than me and I die in a split second without even being able to do anything. Not an enjoyable experience. I'll stick to massive crits in random BGs. That's actually fun for a casual player.
I hear you brother! You see a lot of players getting that 1600-1800 rating quick but it’s actually not that easy. 1800 rating now is like 2k a little later in the season since it’s the first week. I am going to continue the grind and with the new changes and nerfs this week, we should be able to survive a lot more.
@@darksword1337 youre video just made me tilt even more because those LFG guys dont know shit. whatever.. i just got 1,8 in 3s with arms and hpal.. now i can finally flex with that SICK mog :) ty didnt know that strength is scaling this crazy
Believe it or not. You made me reroll frost dk from sub rogue😅 Enjoying it a ton! And we might be looking at a buff instead of a nerf, thats always nice.
But of course you play duo with paladin and say double dmg.I respect you Hazed I've learned a lot from you but come on we all know when we are with paladins we are getting carried no matter if you are dk or something else.I play with random because my friends play classes that dont sync with me.Sometimes I play with arm warrior (a friend) and we lose more games then winning and every frost dk i meet dies fast.Right now its ultra stupid burst broken PvP arenas and I feel really useless sometimes.
Yes im aware that a comp that i have played since mop is now strong which means "BONK" Play the comp. Frost DKS to a TON for rets, literally counter their weakness.
Thanks for making these Arena guides for Frost DKs! I watch everyone one and will hit you with that sweet phatty thumbs up every time.
Yeyee appreciate that man!
Thank you for blessing us with your knowledge m'lord
Thanks for watching man!
I guess you're a death squire and not a death knight " low born girls say M' Lord not My lord"
sweet man! very well explained. always played dks and super excited to go back to frost with this spec. thanks man, your guides are as always awesome and super appriciated!
Very good info on using pvp trinket, I did see some human’s using pvp trinket and was confused, but makes total sense from rogue/ boomy burst. 👍🏼👍🏼
True some things are to bursty to sit cc for sure.
Hi Hazzed, thanks for sharing these guides on YT. Im trying get into the arena but burst meta is just so hard for newbie like me. Still can't decide whether i prefer more Frost or Unholy DK (love them both).
Also, is it possible to put Macros under the video description? Thanks a lot.
Stay safe and good luck.
Super informative video @Hazzed, awesome!.
Sorry for the essay question! At 18:45 in the burst rotation you Frostwyrm fury and chillstreak after Pillar drops off (and arena trinket drops off for the chillstreak). As both multiply on our attack power, and Pillar ramps up towards the end of its duration, how important to our burst is it that we get these 2 moves off during the PoF+Trink duration?
I noticed you remorseless winter too after popping trinks, but between your first frost strike and first obliterate, do you think it's worth using a global on remorseless during the PoF/Trink burst if pressing it before we PoF/Trink means we could get 1 more big obliterate crit off during the POF burst window, OR guarantee we get Frostwyrm+chillstreak off during that burst window?
I know Frostwyrm/Chillstreak is pretty situational based on when the healer trinkets out of CC, and it's pretty unlikely we ever get free reign to just slam the Obliterate+FS/HB rotation in to a target during PoF without having to press something else, I just wondered if you think we should be prioritising getting our big moves in during the PoF window?
You really want to maximize the CC chains with damage as much as possible. That chill streak perfectly set up will deal WAY more damage then oblits will. Plus its the combined burst pressure that lands kills. I think its worth it to increase burst pressure. Normally i RW before burst.
Great video man! Do you think the memory of koltira is still good in PVP? Is it worth getting on top of absolute zero?
Absolute zero is ok if u playing stun talent, but for 3s abozero is better
Yee extra oblit damage is fun but, having the aoe stun is super strong in arena.
Been loving Unholy & Blood so far. I need to give Frost a real go
Trueee, and with them sick blood buffs today oo
@@darksword1337 I already feel invincible, now it's time to actually hurt 🩸💀⚔️
Mind linking or sharing your AMZ macro?
I use to be on that server! Man... I hated most of my guilds there. Thanks for the content.
Sadly we have found out that the average player there is.. well.. not amazing on this server.
Love the videos man. keep em comin
yeye you know i will!
why are you using a one handed weapon as a frost dk?
I would suggest having 2 leggos and swapping for the comp you playing against. If I see a ret paladin I swap to my AMS leggo, or WW.
Awesome Guide! Thank you so much!
where the F where you ? ! are you ok ? i missed you a lot , love you seeing you making videos again !
I been around, posted a video like 2 days ago haha. Thanks for watching man
Great vid! Any recommendations on what conquest gear purchases? Would you save for weapon or buy vers/mastery items like ring and neck?
Weapon always
Rings/neck. Fat vers buff from jewelry
I watch flarkness on stream and your vids and i just feel like dk is weak, no big i win button, ( the hunt, convoke the spirits, ect ect) i just die. Feels bad, any advice? If you would link me some of your vods (if you stream) ill deff give em a watch
I can see what you mean. Here is a video of 0 to rival. th-cam.com/video/94zolnhn1oA/w-d-xo.html
Dont look for i win buttons, they usually get nerfed. Frost dk is okay, games mot balanced around solo or even 2s. Frost dk shines with almost every comp thats why i play it, also you can bully clothies easy
how do you op all your CDs soo quick do you have a macro or something ? , nice video thooo
Thanks for the video Hazzed! you think I should switch covenant or it’s fine to stay kyrian?
Thats up to you man!
@@darksword1337 yeah i had no choice but to switch i tried arena today and my dps was really bad anyways keep up the good work man your videos give us hope in DK frost ^^
I just discovered you! Amazing Videos. Do you not show name plates? I love the Clean UI! do you use any addons (Just damage meter?)? And do you ever turn on Nameplates? And Do you use key binds for targeting arena targets? if so what do you use?
Hazzed ¿would it be better to have all your offensive spells in a one-shot macro or having it in different bindings?
Better to pop them at the correct time then macro them for sure atm
I’m one of the very few Frost running arenas right now and love destroying Unholy! Lol
@Jiminy Christmas what planet u live on
Very nice vid. can't wait to get going in some duos. For your focused macros, do you have 2nd key bind to land those? or any pro-tip you might care to share with us/me. Thanks again!
hi hazzed an other one good video as always.i have a question do you believe frost dk with dh is viable for double dps in arenas ?or we need something with heal like pala for more survivability?
Hmm i feel like it could be viable but, would have to be played at 100% capacity. No mistakes. Very little survivability.
@@darksword1337 y i feel that any mistake would cost us :p
Hey brotha, do you think you can share your arena macros specifically? Like your target macros and your focus kick macros and grip macros etc? I know you shared the survivability macros and those are so goddamn helpful, but I also find myself consantly having to click on enemy frames to kick them then click back on the other enemy and by that time a million things have happened and I've just clicked names instead of actually living and doing damaage.
you keep saying mastery increases obliterate damage but its physical damage so mastery doesnt buff it right? correct me if Im wrong
Thank you Hazzed! What is your opinion on Frost DKs this season?(pve and pvp) Unholy kinda overshadows us.
I wouldn't say after the nerf the gap between the two is very big.
Where did u get the 200 Frezy conduit?
Worth the watch just for the general chat. Laughing my ass off about 3v34 lolol
True! I gota re watch after posted just to laugh at trade chat.
absolute zero is cool but you dont think koltira is better in 2's?
I also see a lot of Death's Embrace and Sephuz around
Fallen Crusader is nerfed in PvP. Tooltip says it gives 15% strength, it doesn't in PvP- 10% in PvP
Every tutorial: “it’s like your bread and butter”
so, i play the exact same comp in 2s and i must say, just by the fact you've got a pally by your side you can rest easily when you face double rogues or rogue/MM. that being said, i personally play with exsanguination rune witch is an absolutely insane rune for 2s in my opinion. giving you back 50% of your life when you get bursted is just too good. And on top of that im using the magic shield legendary, and im basically immortal to magic damages. the only problems we have faced so far (1k9 CR) are solid enhancement sham comp. as ret being an anti melee and dk being an anti mage this 2v2 comp is fairly solid in the current meta, but enhancement sham... oh boi, when they pop ascendance, you better use all the CCs you got to stop him, the physical burst is just too good atm and can dispel bop.
Feel that we face some wild shaman comps in 3's the other day.
do you know if the elite set is account bound for transmog? like say i get it on my dk, can i mog it on my war
Yes you can
Hello hazed can u do a dueling guide for DKs?
Hey Hazzed, do you think an Arms war/Frost Dk could be decent in 2's?
I tried it myself as frost with my friend arms, 3s with healer is so much better, if you really wanna go 2s then try with WW for higher burst. Both frost and arms will shine more in 3s.
Yyeee tsg is strong in 3's for sure. Frost arms in 2's lacks survivability i think.
Hazzad what do you think about dh and dk duo at 2v2
Could be fictional but, the lack of survivability would mean you both could not mess up. At all.
Is there any counter at all to rogue mage or do convoke the spirits druid?
Trinket smoke only. Kill mage. Easy. Always kick convoke. Gg
I have so many problems vs rogues, commentary gameplay would be cool.
I could do something like that yeee
why dıd u stop streaming ): i loved your streams
Hazzed! Great video as always. Can you make a guide about how to find a partner that wants to push rating and knows what he is doing at the same time?:))) That is what nobody on youtube can solve at the moment :D
Thats easy, go duel people. Find someone your skill level. Get you know um. Very under utilized tool
@@darksword1337 bro that's smart as hell.... Thank you!
How did you get that transfiguration? It's very pretty
its raid plate gear
Do you use a Lichborne/Death coil macro?
Oh yea for sure.
Great vid my man, I been struggling vs WW/Healer comps, any advice?
Thats deff a hard one. The key to beating a healing comp is getting them to stack and then applying burst pressure then hard switching based on cds.
Versa > mastery? Would mastery makes obliterate hits harder?
yea it does
How about 2v2 with a healer (rsham)? Think it would still work better than unholy?
I think unholy would most like have the better healer/dps potential. Generally really strong in 2's.
Is it possible to make Frost DK/Destro work in 3s currently with the meta? With the Absolute Zero legendary
In 3's it should work but, most likely fairly hard because you may lack the feels for the destro.
@@darksword1337 Yeah I think that’s our biggest issue, we played 2s and sometimes we one shot if they’re bad but if they go lock I can’t peel enough for him to live. Thanks!
what do you think about rune of sanguination for double dps 2s?
I personally wouldn't use it but, i see its uses.
Would this build be okay for frost dk / holy pala? Or are other builds better?
Should work. Normally frost and holy go well together. Not 100% sure of the best frost 2's meta atm. Maybe a disc priest.
@@darksword1337 I’m going to give it ago. I’ve been playing unholy last expansion fancy a change
Lol i wish I was surprised hazzed we went with the same 2h transmog for the 1800 set 😂 ..by the way why did you say not to use ghoul vs ret?
Off the opener. Don't use it. The more targets a kirian ret hits, the more damage he deals. Its ok to summon and sac your pet tho.
Why my abomination limb much smaller than yours?
How do you place that AMZ so fast without the green placement thingy
mouse over macro
How do I get those soulbinds?
Do you use vendor or mythic + pvp set?
Use a mix to get the correct stats.
hey man been awhile hope all is well and merry christmass brother
great video, great content
Man I try but it’s hard
Its not easy for sure man. Tough meta, took us 60 games when we have gotten 2k in less then 30 in previous. lol
Yea it is tough playing against ranged classes who keep a good distance apart.
Also hard to pug and find a solid partner to grind with.
I really enjoy playing ret/ fdk 2s, games are relatively fast and ret are STRONG.
@@jonnyfreshtv6598 Oh yea, they are such a strong melee counter but fall short with casters. Why i went Necrolord to give us both uptime and run AMZ to counter their weakness. They give us healing and freedoms to counter ours. Strong 2v2 comp.
Rets are carrying hard right now for double dps teams, even all the top steamers (other than rogue/mage of course) are either a ret themselves or playing with one.
Frost dk is very weak right now, you pretty much need the ret carry to get anywhere at the moment.
@@Cale779 yea I’m having such a hard time landing good chill streaks in twos at the moment even with a Ret... ranged teams just kite and dps.. healers los to no other. Can’t seem to find a good run of games to grind that rating.
im interested to see wich macro tyou are using !!
Where did you get the weapon?
That's PvP cosmetic for your legendary weapon in legion.
Does Hazzed have a discord??
Is frost superior in pvp compared to unholy?
no, not even close.
Could you link your armory because you spell your name differently.
yeye worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/proudmoore/hazze%C3%B0 my new dk
What macro do u use to cast anti magic zone?
#showtooltip Anti-Magic Zone
/cast [@player] Anti-Magic Zone
@@chrisk1458 so what is the full macro
can you make a video how to play frost dk vs priest and shammans please :)
Love your video. Could you please guide us on Macro ?
Might be the way to go after the 20% UH NERF
Could be, was wondering if you meant buff haha.
What do you think about Dk/rogue in 2's? Frost or unholy as well?
dk rogue should be viable. Might be harder after the nerfs.
Recommend any unholy channels?
Not sure if there are any good ones for pvp currently.
I've given up on arena. It seems that every single player is just miles better than me and I die in a split second without even being able to do anything. Not an enjoyable experience. I'll stick to massive crits in random BGs. That's actually fun for a casual player.
Keep practicing man. This meta is very unforgiving. I can't blame you tho! BG'ing is for sure more fun!
I hear you brother! You see a lot of players getting that 1600-1800 rating quick but it’s actually not that easy. 1800 rating now is like 2k a little later in the season since it’s the first week.
I am going to continue the grind and with the new changes and nerfs this week, we should be able to survive a lot more.
Death Strike has 50% nerf in PVP, so it wont heal as much as in the tooltip.
YEEEEE BOIIIIIII
YEEEEEEEEE!
what scary is triple rogue :o no chance of living that
Bahah yea thats a chees comp. was top 10 in eu in 3's for a while
Ams absorbs shadowdance
it good guide, frost is pretty simple, the hard part is finding a partner
*Finding FOTM partner to carry your ass.
i have so much trouble getting above 1,750.. its insane
Can feel that! Deff the not easiest meta.
@@darksword1337 youre video just made me tilt even more because those LFG guys dont know shit. whatever.. i just got 1,8 in 3s with arms and hpal.. now i can finally flex with that SICK mog :) ty didnt know that strength is scaling this crazy
Believe it or not. You made me reroll frost dk from sub rogue😅 Enjoying it a ton! And we might be looking at a buff instead of a nerf, thats always nice.
Yea a little DS buff would be really nice. Feel that, nothing like dropping those big oblits haha!
I should have taken Necrolod instead of Kyrian.....!!!!
Reroll!
The kids want macros!
Something tells me this guy doesn't like rogues. lol
Theres a reason they have been nerf'd multiple times. Haha
@@darksword1337 you and me both bud you and me both. Frost DK and i fucking hate em.
But of course you play duo with paladin and say double dmg.I respect you Hazed I've learned a lot from you but come on we all know when we are with paladins we are getting carried no matter if you are dk or something else.I play with random because my friends play classes that dont sync with me.Sometimes I play with arm warrior (a friend) and we lose more games then winning and every frost dk i meet dies fast.Right now its ultra stupid burst broken PvP arenas and I feel really useless sometimes.
Yes im aware that a comp that i have played since mop is now strong which means "BONK" Play the comp. Frost DKS to a TON for rets, literally counter their weakness.
Razorice>Fc
Fallen crusede is a aditive
15%
Razerice is multiplicative 15%
Great vid, but one thing to correct, you are not getting 3.6k healing in pvp situations, you get twice less deathstrike healing in pvp. which is 1,8k
Yee, either way. Same rule applies. haha