I'm so glad that the game designers looked at the two most hated gimmicks of all time: poison swamps and infinitely spawning enemies decided to put them together and then apply that gimmick to 1/5 of the game's maps.
@Zenithir yeah, I stopped playing around halfway through act three just cause maps had gotten way too tedious. I got through all the poison swamps but by then I just wanted to play a different game.
Jedah: "Come out, we have you surrounded" Nuibaba: "We'll just keep sending more units until you approach us" Alm And Celica: "I HATE SUMMONERS, I HATE SUMMONERS!"
Having easy access to Warp and Rescue makes Nuibaba a lot more reasonable. Meanwhile Celica doesn't get access to Warp at all, and no Rescue either without insane grinding Atlas on a suboptimal class.
@@regalstar yeah although I still tried to prep all my knights right at Nuibaba's entrance just in case cause I wanted not only to be able to kill her but in case I fail, be able to survive the counter of everyone in that mansion
ALM: "ONWARD, CHATS! TO ADVENTAR!!" Celica: "...Alright, guys, it can't possibly get any worse now that we're in Rigel. It's a cold country, and we're inland. So no more boats. No more endless, Movement-killing, deserts. Now it'll just be..." (rounds the corner and pales in horror) "...endless. Purple. Death. Swamps." Mae: "Which also kill our Movement! And are filled with Necrodragons that can move like twenty spaces because they fly!" Celica: (grabs a full bottle of Ram Wine from the convoy, uncorks it, and throws her head back, downing the whole thing)
Having to eventually do Celica's route to advance the story had the same vibe as my mother saying I wouldn't be leaving the table until I finished my vegetables
One of my friends said that he actually liked one of the maps, that had all those archers. Reason being was because it made sense realistically. A fortress with dozens of archers firing dozens of arrows is a sound defense tatic. Unfortunately for them, I had Genny who spawns foot soliders and somehow had insane dodge. Cantors can go sleep in their own poison swamps.
Gotta love how they decided to port every weird, unfair and broken mechanic from a 25 years old game. I mean, usually this would be bad, but Gaiden was a game SO WEIRD, that you gotta respect IS for giving us an experience so close to the original craziness. I was one of 'those guys' who grinded for hours in the original to pry that sweet Dragon Shield from Desaix's cold dead hands; in my madness, I learned to love this game.
Grieth’s citadel is actually one of my favorite maps in the game. It’s basically a slow siege of Genny’s summons and the enemies summons fighting while the front line slowly pushes forward. Meanwhile, my archers are sniping from safety and my fliers are assassinating any significant unit that is left open. It’s a long map, but it feels like all out war and I love it
I mean for me, the worst part about Celica's route was suffering through her poor decision making while her comrads made much more reasonable suggestions.
@@bigsmoky3985 If I recall, the main reason she got so worked up is because he unknowingly insulted her when he brought up the "lost princess" and how he's basically doing her job for her.
@@generalbutterscotch4887 ohhh, I see! I played the game a second time and after reading the dialogue again, I thought she was mad because he brought up memories she'd rather forget.
Nuibaba never really was an issue, considering that a) Dread Fighters completely break her and b) you have both Warp and Return on Alm's route. Now, that map with the witch boss that spawns more witches, on the other hand...
I beat her with dread fighter Gray, bow knight Tobin to snipe around the walls, and Silque to warp Gray in. Was it optimal? I don't think so. Was it fun? Maybe.
@@wickedwilfre8348 If you really want to screw around, let Silque use Invoke (assuming you have it by then) and just keep sending summoned Dread Fighters to climb the hill to Nuibaba. The AI really can't handle this, it becomes outright hilarious how much you can bully her with that.
@@getsuga4655 I made her a mage. Got really lucky on growths. At max level (w/ DLC overclass), she has 11 res and max defense, speed, and attack and she doubles everything.
My guy, you don't even know how bad it is on Hard mode. The archers in Grieth's citadel have actual bows which means you can't even take them out with your pegasus knights unless you're willing to kill one
That's pretty much why Leon (and also Genny) are the best units on her route. Why have the need to cross deserts and swamps if you could just kill the foe from a distance? Then there's Hunter's Volley, the cherry on top.
As someone who made the mistake of doing a hard mode playthrough on my first playthrough, celicas route is pure suffering. Ironically Celica was probably my strongest unit and ended up becoming my front line tank along with Valbar in griefs fortress.
Nuibaba says "F YOU" Kliff with a Killer Bow says "Hunter's Volley and F YOU" ALSO FCK TON OF HORSES in Alm's Route. It starting to look like Ram Ranch in here.
@@BlazerT48 Many people turned him into a mage for Saggitae but F that! This guy doesn't need the speed or the mag when you can crit everytime. Range is no problem. Kliff and Atlas Hunter's Volley saved my run in Thabes.
And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin'.
It’s so funny because in the beginning, I was vibing with Celica more intrigued in her path. Quickly preferred Alm’s route. He also has such a great character development
My favorite thing to do is reclass Genny into a Cavalier, then just have her stand on the 1-tile bridge and have the zombie onslaught level her to oblivion.
I grinded a little bit too much before Nuibaba because I wanted my dread fighters to be the strongest. I feel like that's how I manage to not lose anyone...and Mila's turnwheel obviously.
In my opinion, the worst part of Celica's route it's Celica. The whole route is: Saber: "Hey Celica now that we've discovered that you are the Queen of Valentia, I think it's on our best interest to keep you safe, so don't strife too far from us" Celica: "Ugh, I can defend myself y'know. I am not a child" *Literally 2 encounters later* *Celica wanders off alone* Creepy Old Man: "Wanna sell yer soul to Duma?" Celica: "I dunno man I like my soul, I guess I'll pass the offer..." Creepy Old Man: "We'll tickle Alm's butt if you don't comply" Celica: "OH FUCK OH GOD OH NO NOT MY BB ALM (Which I literally pushed away for doing the exact same as me). TAKE MY VIRGIN--I MEAN SOUL, I AM ALL YOURS! JUST DON'T TOUCH HIM HE CAN'T BE HARMED (Even though he's been in constat fighting and has a better group to defend him than mine)" *Meanwhile at base camp* Saber: "Hey Boey, call the Lass I think I found our way out of this rotten place" Boey: "Celica isn't with us, we thought she was with you" Saber: "...Fucking hell..."
She didn’t agree to Jedah’s plan because Jedah threatened Alm. She agreed to his plan because Jedah said he could bring back Mila, and Celica thought that Mila would be able to stop the war going on, in part, because people including Alm were getting hurt. As for Jedah looking creepy, what kind of character would Celica be if she didn’t trust him purely because he’s a blue old man. Her making a bad decision and almost throwing her life away is kind of the point of Celica’s route part 4. We as the players obviously know Jedah is pure evil, but the point is that Celica as a character is willing to selflessly sacrifice herself in order to, as far as she knows, save the world. That’s kind of her arc and it ends when Alm is like “you are my world, bro 🥺” Don’t get me wrong SoV isn’t a pinnacle of writing or anything. But to me, the people who say “Celica is stupid, and constantly putting herself in danger, and is a hypocrite.” Just like… didn’t give the story or characters any thought.
Weird on my play through I had more fun as well as it was easier time on the Celica route. Alms was a lot harder for me. Both became a lot easier towards the end
You know you're in for a bad time when you go to Nuibaba's fortress and even the game's narrator is like: "Bro, Alm. My guy. Why TF are you doing this?"
At least the game is kind enough to try and push you towards Nuibaba’s House, since you need to beat there in order to recruit Zeke. If there wasn’t the story hint, no one without prior knowledge would think “Oh, I should go fight the witch cantor before unlocking the village.”
Ironically it was the opposite for me. I preferred using Celica so by the time I reached Jedah I just annihilated anything that came near her and moved everyone in a pack to make healing easier. Saber had a forged blessed sword so he just annihilated terrors left and right. Alm on the other hand did amazing but had some crap units on his side that made it hard for a while. Python turned out amazing and Claire was good, Gray was a dread fighter, and then there was Tatiana. I used Python to snipe Nuibaba when I could safely get in range and then I had Silque warp Alm to finish her off with double lion. The next chapters were rough.
I've only played this game for two weeks and made it to Act 4 but OOF! Some maps are freaking hard. Dead Man's Mire made me more toxic than the swamp. Maybe I shoulda called in one of my amiibo to help. Mah Boi RedPin Alm E Nak Celicanny *ONE OF THEM!!*
Summoner enemies in that swamp are the most infuriating thing I have encountered in this game. I don’t even know how many times I basically had to restart. Even my successful attempt was costly as I only had Celica and Saber left (thank goodness for casual mode, otherwise I’d be unable to continue, I’m sure). And this was on Normal difficulty (it’s my first time playing the game).
After that first cantor battle. My whole ass team managed to gain like 3 or 4 levels up from that and i realized how broken cantor battles were at farming for xp
Long live casual mode. I get people wanting the 'classic' experience, but when its this tedious you should just say 'fuck it', unless you're a masochist.
Me: just sends a high dodge/def unit to tank all of these hits and then barge all the way to the summoning enemy Fun fact: I killed Jedah in Act 4 three times in three of my completed playthroughs, all three of them using Mae (only in different methods, the first one is classic Aura nuke crit, the second is her reclassed as Falcon Knight and crit with Gradvius, the last one as Priestess again but with the SWORD As for Nuibaba, the first time I warp killed her with Dread Fighter Forsyth the first time. Second was similar except I used Gray instead, the third time I sniped her with Alm with Parthia Trance Shot
Personally I think the best way to enjoy the entire Echoes experience is to periodically alternate between the Alm and Celica routes so that you don't take on all of the really difficult Celica maps all at once and get worn down by it. After finishing a particularly difficult Celica map, switch back to Alm's route as a "palette clenser".
The poison river on Celica’s route unironically got me to stop playing, which sucks because I was having a lot of fun otherwise. Nuibaba was tough but it resulted in a really cool moment for me, after struggling to even enter their chamber, just running in with Gray and killing her with a crit, then teleporting him the hell outta there with… I think Silque? My memory’s foggy, been a while since I played it, but I remember because I was dumb I needed him to dodge an attack to survive anyway, and RNG decided to be nice
I'm so glad that the game designers looked at the two most hated gimmicks of all time: poison swamps and infinitely spawning enemies decided to put them together and then apply that gimmick to 1/5 of the game's maps.
@Zenithir yeah, I stopped playing around halfway through act three just cause maps had gotten way too tedious. I got through all the poison swamps but by then I just wanted to play a different game.
@Zenithir I literally forgot I had this game until I saw this video and when I booted it up to see where I left off. It was that map-
@@krislegionau4997 I spent 80 turns on the damn desert fortress with the dread fighter boss. By the end my entire team was exhausted.
Infinite xp
Jedah: "Come out, we have you surrounded"
Nuibaba: "We'll just keep sending more units until you approach us"
Alm And Celica: "I HATE SUMMONERS, I HATE SUMMONERS!"
Celica gonna have some ptsd flashbacks when the Summoner in Feh introduces themself
The clerics' invoke says otherwise
Having easy access to Warp and Rescue makes Nuibaba a lot more reasonable. Meanwhile Celica doesn't get access to Warp at all, and no Rescue either without insane grinding Atlas on a suboptimal class.
Kiran did nothing wrong why the hate? XD
@@regalstar yeah although I still tried to prep all my knights right at Nuibaba's entrance just in case cause I wanted not only to be able to kill her but in case I fail, be able to survive the counter of everyone in that mansion
The fact that Alm was left out of Engage is a crime
ALM: "ONWARD, CHATS! TO ADVENTAR!!"
Celica: "...Alright, guys, it can't possibly get any worse now that we're in Rigel. It's a cold country, and we're inland. So no more boats. No more endless, Movement-killing, deserts. Now it'll just be..." (rounds the corner and pales in horror) "...endless. Purple. Death. Swamps."
Mae: "Which also kill our Movement! And are filled with Necrodragons that can move like twenty spaces because they fly!"
Celica: (grabs a full bottle of Ram Wine from the convoy, uncorks it, and throws her head back, downing the whole thing)
Man I can't believe Alm and Celica are stuck a static roster of soldiers while their enemies get to literally play FEH in the middle of a chapter.
"Damn, I got another Luke"
Imagine a swath of level 1 donnels with brave lances, atrocity, and poison strike 6
Not to mention the summoners are mages in a game where the highest res base growth rate is 5 (not including dlc)
You know both routes have at least one faith caster who can summon
Having to eventually do Celica's route to advance the story had the same vibe as my mother saying I wouldn't be leaving the table until I finished my vegetables
same
I was really liking Alm route man
Then Nuibaba happened
Indeed.
Whats the issue, you just warp in the pegasus and kill her in one turn
@@voidroad ...
You expecting me to train my characters? Bro i'm trying to rush through.
@@introvertedwall44 idk training to get warp makes the whole game faster
@@voidroad i think it’s more the “one rounding nuibaba” thing.
Also, A lot of people are way better at killing nuibaba than clair
"Celica's route's got it all. Pirate ships... desert... swamp... this route sucks." -Bismix
there has never been a more true statement
0:50 THAT FISHING SCARED ME
I love waiting forever for my units to take terrain damage in celica’s route!
Alm Route: *casual maps that everyone can enjoy*
Celica Route: *_"Pain. So much pain."_*
One of my friends said that he actually liked one of the maps, that had all those archers. Reason being was because it made sense realistically. A fortress with dozens of archers firing dozens of arrows is a sound defense tatic. Unfortunately for them, I had Genny who spawns foot soliders and somehow had insane dodge.
Cantors can go sleep in their own poison swamps.
Gotta love how they decided to port every weird, unfair and broken mechanic from a 25 years old game. I mean, usually this would be bad, but Gaiden was a game SO WEIRD, that you gotta respect IS for giving us an experience so close to the original craziness. I was one of 'those guys' who grinded for hours in the original to pry that sweet Dragon Shield from Desaix's cold dead hands; in my madness, I learned to love this game.
Grieth’s citadel is actually one of my favorite maps in the game. It’s basically a slow siege of Genny’s summons and the enemies summons fighting while the front line slowly pushes forward. Meanwhile, my archers are sniping from safety and my fliers are assassinating any significant unit that is left open. It’s a long map, but it feels like all out war and I love it
I agree that map is great
That’s what I love about genealogy of the holy war. Takes fucking forever but feels like a full on war.
@@leorobin832 Uh... wrong game?
@@BB_Promoter no, I was just comparing and saying that Genealogy also plays like slow seiges and that's what I like about this map and that game.
Idk man I just rushed Saber and he did all of the map
I dont blame Celica for submitting to Jedah after she had to live through this route
I mean for me, the worst part about Celica's route was suffering through her poor decision making while her comrads made much more reasonable suggestions.
I started thinking she was being pretty reckless, too.. like, when tf did the safety of her friends stopped mattering?!
"Alm you need to stop!"
"But my people are suffering under Rigel!"
"Did I stutter!?"
No joke that girl must have some screw loose in her head
@@fulnaz3164 I remember being so confused after Alm and Celica fight. I couldn't quite understand why Celica was so mad at Alm.
@@bigsmoky3985 If I recall, the main reason she got so worked up is because he unknowingly insulted her when he brought up the "lost princess" and how he's basically doing her job for her.
@@generalbutterscotch4887 ohhh, I see! I played the game a second time and after reading the dialogue again, I thought she was mad because he brought up memories she'd rather forget.
Celica route without grinding is just pain. Just.....pain.
but grinding is also pain -_-
@@elkyree pick your poison, 5 hours of grinding, or literal poison...
But you don't really have to grind in Celica's Route.
What matters more is silver marks, which is all you need for a Killer Bow.
Just promote early and use Palla and Catria, they help a ton and are largely unaffected by these issues.
@@samkeiser9776 Promote units early is like the first rule in FE: Don't promote early lmao
"Yes! Yes, exactly! Truer words have never been spoken!"
-Fernand
Nuibaba never really was an issue, considering that a) Dread Fighters completely break her and b) you have both Warp and Return on Alm's route. Now, that map with the witch boss that spawns more witches, on the other hand...
I beat her with dread fighter Gray, bow knight Tobin to snipe around the walls, and Silque to warp Gray in. Was it optimal? I don't think so. Was it fun? Maybe.
@@wickedwilfre8348 If you really want to screw around, let Silque use Invoke (assuming you have it by then) and just keep sending summoned Dread Fighters to climb the hill to Nuibaba. The AI really can't handle this, it becomes outright hilarious how much you can bully her with that.
Exactly like what are you saying?
>"you have both Warp and Return"
>"Return"
>mfw I made faye a pegasus knight
@@getsuga4655 I made her a mage. Got really lucky on growths. At max level (w/ DLC overclass), she has 11 res and max defense, speed, and attack and she doubles everything.
Alm and the gang steam rolling through Valentia until the sexy witch sits up on her mountain throne.
celica and her 14 different myrmidons
My guy, you don't even know how bad it is on Hard mode. The archers in Grieth's citadel have actual bows which means you can't even take them out with your pegasus knights unless you're willing to kill one
That's pretty much why Leon (and also Genny) are the best units on her route. Why have the need to cross deserts and swamps if you could just kill the foe from a distance?
Then there's Hunter's Volley, the cherry on top.
As someone who made the mistake of doing a hard mode playthrough on my first playthrough, celicas route is pure suffering. Ironically Celica was probably my strongest unit and ended up becoming my front line tank along with Valbar in griefs fortress.
Nuibaba says "F YOU"
Kliff with a Killer Bow says
"Hunter's Volley and F YOU"
ALSO FCK TON OF HORSES in Alm's Route. It starting to look like Ram Ranch in here.
Finally, I found a person of culture using archer Kliff. He legit carried my army to the end
@@BlazerT48 Many people turned him into a mage for Saggitae but F that! This guy doesn't need the speed or the mag when you can crit everytime. Range is no problem. Kliff and Atlas Hunter's Volley saved my run in Thabes.
@@guypointinghishead5468 literally the best archers, they completely outclass leon and python
Now I wish I had a Killer bow when I did this. Kliff may have actually hit something rather than be a Fire Emblem Stormtrooper.
Late, but thought I was the only one went with archer Kliff
I owe like 70% of my Celica route to Saber, mans actually the goat
imagine if all the units you levelt decided to with celica while all the underlevelt units decided to with alm
rip alms route
And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin', And they don't stop comin'.
Nuibaba: *Exists*
My Forsyth who I turned into an OP Dread Fighter thanks to a pitchfork: Your free trial of living has expired.
It’s so funny because in the beginning, I was vibing with Celica more intrigued in her path. Quickly preferred Alm’s route. He also has such a great character development
I am fucking suffering with this game right now and I really needed to know I wasn’t alone thank you.
It’s okay, sometimes it’s a bitter struggle lol. How far are you?
@@seonara_etc Oh I'm at the part right before you fight Rudolph actually. Hoping I can beat this thing before the week ends...
My favorite thing to do is reclass Genny into a Cavalier, then just have her stand on the 1-tile bridge and have the zombie onslaught level her to oblivion.
Everytime I see a cantor summonong his mini army:
Celica: Genny, you know what to do. INVOKE!
Alm is a GAMER! Get this man a bag of flour.
I only like Celica's route for the characters lol
Celica’s got the good characters, Alm’s got the viable characters.
Same honestly, and even then I still like Alm's route more
@@Hewasnumber1 tbh celicas has saber,mae genny,pegasus sisters,sonya and a villager she just had less time to grind tbh
My boy saber
@@reembeem1725 Keith Silverstine, based af
"Echoes is a masterpiece, 10/10!"
Some people I will never understand
To this day I don't know how I managed to beat this game without losing anyone
Turnwheels
Because the game is easy as fuck and the only threatening things are jumpscare witches and inflated stat enemies
you turned off permadeath
I grinded a little bit too much before Nuibaba because I wanted my dread fighters to be the strongest. I feel like that's how I manage to not lose anyone...and Mila's turnwheel obviously.
WHY THE HELL DOES SHE HAVE SO MANY MERCENARIES!
I hope you all have an Almazing day
I'm actually doing a " all villagers turn into bow knight with killer bow" run
I definitely farm the hell out of those cantor maps early on, but those swamp maps... very much designed to challenge your turtle strategies
serves you right for having THAT many myrmidons
I'm so happy to see an SoV meme in 2022
I didn't feel the pain of summoners.
Then again I was fucking playing FEH myself with Genny.
In my opinion, the worst part of Celica's route it's Celica. The whole route is:
Saber: "Hey Celica now that we've discovered that you are the Queen of Valentia, I think it's on our best interest to keep you safe, so don't strife too far from us"
Celica: "Ugh, I can defend myself y'know. I am not a child"
*Literally 2 encounters later*
*Celica wanders off alone*
Creepy Old Man: "Wanna sell yer soul to Duma?"
Celica: "I dunno man I like my soul, I guess I'll pass the offer..."
Creepy Old Man: "We'll tickle Alm's butt if you don't comply"
Celica: "OH FUCK OH GOD OH NO NOT MY BB ALM (Which I literally pushed away for doing the exact same as me). TAKE MY VIRGIN--I MEAN SOUL, I AM ALL YOURS! JUST DON'T TOUCH HIM HE CAN'T BE HARMED (Even though he's been in constat fighting and has a better group to defend him than mine)"
*Meanwhile at base camp*
Saber: "Hey Boey, call the Lass I think I found our way out of this rotten place"
Boey: "Celica isn't with us, we thought she was with you"
Saber: "...Fucking hell..."
This is so true. Celica could have been written a looooot better.
Even Saber got sick of her shit later.. :/ which makes me think her recklessness was intentional
Mae just encouraged her shit and saber had to pick up the pieces lmao
Saber and Boey were the real heroes of Celica route.
She didn’t agree to Jedah’s plan because Jedah threatened Alm. She agreed to his plan because Jedah said he could bring back Mila, and Celica thought that Mila would be able to stop the war going on, in part, because people including Alm were getting hurt.
As for Jedah looking creepy, what kind of character would Celica be if she didn’t trust him purely because he’s a blue old man.
Her making a bad decision and almost throwing her life away is kind of the point of Celica’s route part 4.
We as the players obviously know Jedah is pure evil, but the point is that Celica as a character is willing to selflessly sacrifice herself in order to, as far as she knows, save the world. That’s kind of her arc and it ends when Alm is like “you are my world, bro 🥺”
Don’t get me wrong SoV isn’t a pinnacle of writing or anything.
But to me, the people who say “Celica is stupid, and constantly putting herself in danger, and is a hypocrite.” Just like… didn’t give the story or characters any thought.
Units deal 1 hp damage
Me: *Tactics Ogre golem flashbacks*
"DID SOMEBODY SAY CANTOR??????"
"(Wimpily) NOOOOUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
The memories are flooding back.
The first note of “God Shattering Star” plays when Nuibaba appears
“Man I’m having a good time with celica’s route”
“DID SOMEBODY SAY CANTORS”
From bismixs echoes video
I was thinking to myself "huh, why don't I replay SoV again?"
This. This is why.
Struggling more on Celica’s route is probably why she became an Emblem
This is why Bow knights are so useful. Just snipe all the summoners
Honestly I get why people feel like this but I can’t say I don’t like Celica’s maps even though they can reach levels of “Just use Palla and Catria”
See that’s the thing, why wouldn’t you want to use Palla or Catria?
@@samkeiser9776
Cause it’s not all that fun. Granted most don’t have fun with Celica maps anyway,but my point was I’m a different case
@@leifster7762 Idk I have fun with Palla’s surprising bulk, I give Catria a Javelin and palla a shield and it’s pretty fun imo.
@@samkeiser9776
I like using them but I don’t like the idea of just using them for literally everything. Too brain dead of a way to play for me.
Paola and Catria promoted are sick for this route. When I got em promoted the route got such a walk in the grass.
kaga smiling every time he willed these maps into existence.
4-range archer desert chapter.
Alm route good, Celica route bad
That part at the end is so accurate hahaha
Man I love cantors!
Said no one ever
*Said by the guy who came up with cantors.
Weird on my play through I had more fun as well as it was easier time on the Celica route. Alms was a lot harder for me.
Both became a lot easier towards the end
Now i know why Celica Engage skill is Warp and Ragnarok
0:02 ah yes, the cantor, my favorite exp farming enemy.
Game Devs: Adds count as a mechanic right?
Everyone else: surprised Pikachu face after the 100th wave of adds spawn
the struggle is real on celica 😭
You know you're in for a bad time when you go to Nuibaba's fortress and even the game's narrator is like: "Bro, Alm. My guy. Why TF are you doing this?"
At least the game is kind enough to try and push you towards Nuibaba’s House, since you need to beat there in order to recruit Zeke. If there wasn’t the story hint, no one without prior knowledge would think “Oh, I should go fight the witch cantor before unlocking the village.”
Ironically it was the opposite for me. I preferred using Celica so by the time I reached Jedah I just annihilated anything that came near her and moved everyone in a pack to make healing easier. Saber had a forged blessed sword so he just annihilated terrors left and right. Alm on the other hand did amazing but had some crap units on his side that made it hard for a while. Python turned out amazing and Claire was good, Gray was a dread fighter, and then there was Tatiana. I used Python to snipe Nuibaba when I could safely get in range and then I had Silque warp Alm to finish her off with double lion. The next chapters were rough.
this was accurate so sometimes before an event I grind those soldiers or undeads until I'm satisfied
wait a minute...
I've only played this game for two weeks and made it to Act 4 but OOF! Some maps are freaking hard. Dead Man's Mire made me more toxic than the swamp. Maybe I shoulda called in one of my amiibo to help.
Mah Boi
RedPin
Alm E Nak
Celicanny
*ONE OF THEM!!*
warp and rescue has entered the chat
If it wasn’t for DF’s anti magic abilities, I don’t know how I could retain my sanity in this game.
0:32 That battle theme, though.....
And I still replay this game at least once a year😭I love how jank it is.
By the time I reached Nuibaba my Alm was the destroyer of worlds so it wasnt that bad to me
This is why I only picked up the Alm amiibo
Summoner enemies in that swamp are the most infuriating thing I have encountered in this game. I don’t even know how many times I basically had to restart. Even my successful attempt was costly as I only had Celica and Saber left (thank goodness for casual mode, otherwise I’d be unable to continue, I’m sure).
And this was on Normal difficulty (it’s my first time playing the game).
Not the moguls 💀💀
"Man, Celica's route has it all! Boats, deserts, swamps...
Yo, this route sucks."
-Bisquick
After that first cantor battle. My whole ass team managed to gain like 3 or 4 levels up from that and i realized how broken cantor battles were at farming for xp
to be honest... it's how I feel about SoV gameplay/ map design as a whole...
Long live casual mode. I get people wanting the 'classic' experience, but when its this tedious you should just say 'fuck it', unless you're a masochist.
Me: just sends a high dodge/def unit to tank all of these hits and then barge all the way to the summoning enemy
Fun fact:
I killed Jedah in Act 4 three times in three of my completed playthroughs, all three of them using Mae (only in different methods, the first one is classic Aura nuke crit, the second is her reclassed as Falcon Knight and crit with Gradvius, the last one as Priestess again but with the SWORD
As for Nuibaba, the first time I warp killed her with Dread Fighter Forsyth the first time. Second was similar except I used Gray instead, the third time I sniped her with Alm with Parthia Trance Shot
Nuibaba is “optional” though
Yeah... optional... If you don't care about 2 new recruits
And Tatiana "optional", who has fortify, warp and physics. Yeah
Facing all those Gold & Bow Knights are also "optional" and the way to go for first Echoes playthrough.
MARCH TO DELIVERANCE BANGGGGERRRRRRRRR
Wait…you guys struggle on Celica’s route?
I hate that nobody on her route has warp.
I think that even in gaiden you could get Silque on her path.
Wow, I love it here! This is like my fav fe game
Personally I think the best way to enjoy the entire Echoes experience is to periodically alternate between the Alm and Celica routes so that you don't take on all of the really difficult Celica maps all at once and get worn down by it. After finishing a particularly difficult Celica map, switch back to Alm's route as a "palette clenser".
Here a thing : train them, farm, and celica units are stronger
just tank everything with genny, she'll heal with nosferatu anyways ezpz
IF it hits
@@hyper9984 my genny doesn't miss those
@@spoodz3692 with 60% hit without supports she'll definitely miss in the beginning
@@hyper9984 Our Genny is built differently...
RNG in this game was truly something
Dread Fighter Lukas
Your welcome
I'm one of those people who min turn this game, and Celica's route was the real challenge.
The 2nd map you showed I played recently. I had intended to play a few maps but nope. It took 50 turns and around 2 hours because of the cantor
Celica could sure use some more archers right now.
Well at least Celica has the Pegasus sisters I guess.
That music slaps tho
still my favorite fire emblem game. Been playing since fire emblem came to the west.
Honestly this is just the general FE Echoes: Shadows of Valentia experience.
Nuibaba? Dont remember that since I used the warp / rescue with Faye / Silque.
And this is why I love using invoke.
The poison river on Celica’s route unironically got me to stop playing, which sucks because I was having a lot of fun otherwise.
Nuibaba was tough but it resulted in a really cool moment for me, after struggling to even enter their chamber, just running in with Gray and killing her with a crit, then teleporting him the hell outta there with… I think Silque? My memory’s foggy, been a while since I played it, but I remember because I was dumb I needed him to dodge an attack to survive anyway, and RNG decided to be nice
Yeah. She's basically hard mode