Quick tip - on the contouring can use "order by area" to avoid jumping back and forth with "order by depth" . Thanks for sharing the video. AL (Fusion CAM Product manager)
@@thetruthwithin1 just happened.... im watching the TH-cam video on it now... and because of covid it will be free for a year (until may 31st of next year)
A note from a “newbie”. Amazing work. These videos are examples of the tools abilities, right? I’m just learning. Some of the comments seen harsh! Tutus, you the man. Great work. Who cares what it costs. Like people need a 200,000 car to drive to work. Make stuff...
Machinists on youtube always want to flaunt how fast they can make something. It's ALWAYS a race, but in reality most people are just making quick videos that aren't claiming to be supreme mass production. The more videos you watch the more you see people nitpicking clips like this that are clearly only test projects for students to run Fusion360, but still everybody whines like babies about it. lol
dwanatip Yea it is always a race. If a tool isn't cutting is wasting time. That's how it is in the industry and it's why CNC programmers get paid so much
I know, I'm a CNC programmer full time. But not every youtube video is an example of mass production. For example this vertical mill is very limited in RPM and rotation axis speed yet I see people posting comments like "you should make it on a faster machine" as if that's even an option for a community college like this.
Very cool - I have no experience with 360 but I've heard good things - they have a lot of the big names on Instagram machining flogging for them these days. I've been a Mastercam guy for the last 10 years, but I'm falling out of love with it the more I see stuff like this. Keep up the good work!
thanks! We currently teach mastercam because it's coincidentally very popular here in our local area, but we're trying to move toward a more unified solution for upcoming courses. We also teach Solidworks and Inventor, and use Fusion360 for our 3d printing lab, so taking advantage of Autodesk's ease-of-accessibility is a big factor for the future.
I feel like the crown chamfers and base facets could have been cut in a much more efficient tool path instead of trying to show off your 4th and 5th axis movements. It's still a circle by all intents and purposes, so rotating it 45 degrees to make each base facet would have been substantially more efficient.
Very nice piece. It is normal for machines to waste a lot of time rotating the part 270 degrees when 45 or less would do, but I don't know why, just I see it a lot. I think 5 axis is not required here, 4 should do it. Particularly, a bar feeding lathe mill machine with a rotary tool turret could do this in a LOT less time, using the lathe for basic shape including the top end inner shape, and a mill for angled details. I cannot see every contour, there might be something that wouldn't quite work, but nobody would know the difference. With so many flats, a Y axis would be needed, maybe, but you could come close with just a basic 3 axis with Z-X-C operations.
No kidding! A few years go we had an engineering student who made a whole chess set from 2 inch stainless steel, and she spent all summer on it. We make "regular size" 1 inch chess pieces but even those ones take a good amount of time to make 32 full pieces. But it's a really fun project and a great learning experience.
+LightGod 225 @LightGod 225 The machine cost is usually ~150$ per hour for a 3 axis machine. This 5 axis machine is much higher in what concerns overall cost, I'll take a guess and say it's about twice as much. So 300$ per hour for using the machine. Then we have the operators salary which is 50$-150$ per hour. Since this machine takes skill to use we will say 150$. The material cost in total for the chess set is not more than 100$ even if it's SLS. This video is 5 minutes, the machining time for 1 chess piece. This means ~ 2,5 hours actual machining time. We then add ~1 hour to this for the operators setup time between each piece and cutting of the material before it enters the machine. Rounding that of to 3,5 hours in total. That would be about 1400$ in total, give or take. This is without the company actually making money so add another 10-20% to the total.
poofire yes, but thermal shock isn't an issue here. Feed a bit more and a little lube every now and then will do when using top quality milling tools. In fact, dry machining aluminum is getting more and more doable compared to a few years ago :-)
That is a pretty part, and your use of coolant is good, but your CAM is very inefficient. Many operations could have been performed without a retract or rotation, and several operations appear to use the same tool but separated by multiple tool changes.
for your simultaneous swarf type moves may be better if you unlock the brakes not sure the code on a Haas but I know I have to do that on my mazak 5 axis and 4 axis to get smooth multi axis cycles.
Hello - I used the "Haas Trunnion" 5-axis post for this workpiece. It was available from the HSM/Fusion post library, you might be able to search for it on google. That post basically works with any Coldfire Haas using a 5-axis indexer like this.
It may seem that the part isn't moving in all 5 axes, but the code is written using a simultaneous path. THe final operation takes on the appearance of "turn milling" when the workpiece is centered on its fixture like this. In reality it's not perfectly centered, if only misaligned by 0.002" in X and Y, so the code has some tiny variations in XYZAB. We need a more complex demo!
That feature hasn't been added as of now, but it may be added in the future. However, you can model the CNC's table and rotary hardware to visually check (that's the easy method).
Hey I have a question about running trunnions. I recently got one installed on my vf2, I have no prior experience with running trunnion tables and when I’m running my program on my machine it’s not doing with its showing on my simulation. Like for example. When I orientate the A and B axis 90 it might not go deep enough or come down enough to cut the part
Just wondering if I didnt find the center of rotation right or something. There is like no tutorials or steps on what to do when the table is installed
I’ve been looking at buying one of these Haas Mini Mills for manufacturing small aluminium parts for vintage paintball guns and firearms. One a part has gone through milling can it be inverted and mounted into the fixture again for a second step? Or will re-mounting disrupt the accuracy since the machine is stating from a previously milled part and can’t account for slight irregularities in the mounting process? For instance if you were to want to mill the bottom of that chess piece. I was thinking with the 5-axis option on the Mini Mill can find a way to install the aluminum stock so the finished part is held in the fixture by an end where the finished product will have flat or almost flat surface then cut off the extra and grind/sand the final surface. But on a more complex shape where both ends need to be round like cylinder with cylindrical ends a second milling will always be required. Would this machine be capable of this?
Yep a Minimill would absolutely work for your parts (we have two Minimills here). However I would say that the finished workpiece's quality depends more on the specific manufacturing method/process that you use to create it more than the machine itself. You would need to figure out a way to flip the part around and hold it reliably in the machine, without spending a huge amount of time. 5-axis equipment is good for certain things but can be limiting for other things, in fact many times you can get away with a regular mill vise for side1 then make some custom vise jaws for side2. Cylindrical parts are better suited for a lathe, but some of them can be made on a mill. This is just barely scratching the surface but hopefully it gives you the right direction!
WCC Mechatronics thanks that’s very helpful! The Haas machines are very impressive. I like the probing system and dynamic work offset/tool center options to make life a little easier. The UMC-750 machine is also very nice but quite a bit more expensive then a Mini Mill with 4th and 5th axis options. The built in tilt/rotate free up a lot of space for larger parts in the future in a similar footprint. When exporting CAD files to the machine software to write the IPS program does the machine break it down into multiple steps? Or would I need to make a new CAD file for each work in progress phase of the parts milling?
Yes, the IPS code generator will break the program into different modules (usually). There's certain codes that must be stated at the start of a module which allows you to run the code from that point rather than starting at the beginning every time. Sometimes, a complex part could benefit from multiple CAD files, but it really depends on how the code is generated since some CAM programs use the model itself (such as Fusion360 in this video) but other programs can use basic 2d lines or points. It's just a different way to complete the same task, but the more "modern" CAM programs are *very* easy to use. If you have any local technical schools nearby, I'd definitely suggest taking a class or two since they can let you experiment with their equipment!
WCC Mechatronics. Yes there are lots of education options here in Toronto. I’m more of a hands on kinda guy which is why I went into business. I could see a CNC program paying dividends in the long run though. I was hoping with buying a nice new or almost new machine with intelligent probing, dynamic work offset, and tool center it would take most of the burden off of me. Then I can focus on building good fixtures to hold my work and the machine can do the rest and hopefully with some trial and error figure it out. The parts I want to build I own physical copies of so I’m hoping with a good 3D scanner, and 3D scanning program I can stitch together the scans and export into CAD with minimal design modifications other then double checking the crucial dimensions that interface with other parts. Should make reverse engineering a lot quicker for parts that are a little more curvy to at least have something to start from. I was thinking of buying a Pocket NC or Xendoll mini CNC to play around with setting up tool paths. Very small investment but can still play around with all the back end software before a big machine is delivered and wasting air/electricity on parts that end up in the scrap metal bin. Thanks for your time and insight on programming it was very helpful!
Great video (and nice part, too)! I was curious on #3 in your list: you said you programmed the 4/5 axis motion outside Fusion 360, what did you program it in? Since the video, has Fusion 360 gained full 5 axis?
Yep Fusion added the 5-axis contour operation only a few days after we made this part. Afterward we went back and added the toolpath within the main program. The cutting is basically identical, but Fusion's motion is more clean. We have a couple other projects that will hit the machine as soon as Fusion adds their 5-axis surfacing options.
Previously we were teaching both Surfcam and Mastercam but we've moved toward a more unified solution with Fusion360. It's just going to get better as more features are added :)
This workpiece was posted using the Haas 5-axis trunnion post, which for some reason is not included in the default Fusion/HSM posts (but you can download it off autodesk's HSM post library).
Yep the 5-axis contour feature was added recently. There's additional toolpaths that are yet to be unlocked (multisurface etc), but that will come in time!
The round fixture mounted on the rotary platter was made to be as precise as possible. It uses the rotary's thru-bore for alignment. Hypothetically if you needed absolute accuracy then you could measure the material stock's position then adjust it inside Fusion by creating a new WCS coordinate system just slightly offset.
It depends on the hourly rate for the equipment (and programming), but a component like this that requires about 15 minutes to cut might cost around $20-40. There are much quicker ways to manufacture it, since this was not meant to be a "production" program, and this CNC is somewhat limited...so the price could change depending on the equipment and quantity.
The full 5ax programming isn't available yet (at the time of this writing), what we had to do was patch in the NC code separately. Once the full simultaneous multiaxis motion is available then we can finish the Rook program all within Fusion360.
i think too. i never programm CNC but i see many many steps who can do better. 6:17 catsle walls finish is some good... without Z moves between and not clockwise i think half time?
also, it would be good to know if this post produces edit free code. Istead of using the UMC post that is optimized to use DWO and TCP. cam.autodesk.com/posts/?p=haas_trunnion
nice tip on the cut order, I'll pass that along! This video was made a few weeks ago actually, I don't believe the programmer was aware of the post library at the time (he used the UMC post then converted the BC coordinates to AB, and changed a few other things). Having said that, he used the same CAM module last weekend for a 5ax demo that we were exhibiting, posted through the trunnion AB-coordinate post. Not sure if he did any editing at that point, but I'm sure it was easier with the correct post!
Great but there are lots of useless machining steps. Also could be far better on a Deckel Maho or Hurco. About coolant: dont do it! It can ruin the surface and the tool too!
wtf you talking about? wasted machining step? sometimes it better to control your cuts removing the material from both sides as your steping down to stabilize/better balance your part tolerance. DMG and hurco sucks ass. Try a Matsuura. No coolant on Aluminum? hahahaha
From one CNC programmer to another, there is a lot of wasted cycle time here. If tool is not cutting chips its wasting time which increases cost. Nice shape but needs some manual optimisation to the program. Automatic program generation always has too much fresh air cutting. Expensive pieces or will take a long time to pay your machine off.
Rainer Zufall I agreed with your comment about cutting time efficiency and I had nothing to add, someone like you with an important information might know how much a machine like that costs, because was always curious about the cost of 5 axis machine, that’s all thanks
From the description of the video: "This workpiece is not meant to demonstrate the most efficient cutting methods and the fastest machines. It's just a demo project."
Greg White I'm not a CNC programmer myself but a 3d printer, but the first thing going through my mind during theroughing was "Why are those paths so inefficient?
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Quick tip - on the contouring can use "order by area" to avoid jumping back and forth with "order by depth" . Thanks for sharing the video. AL (Fusion CAM Product manager)
AlNDes Whatmough when are we getting true 5 axis machining in Fusion?
@@thetruthwithin1 just happened.... im watching the TH-cam video on it now... and because of covid it will be free for a year (until may 31st of next year)
This is a pretty awesome video, thanks for producing it. It's great to see what Fusion 360 can do after playing around with it for 3 axis milling.
A note from a “newbie”. Amazing work. These videos are examples of the tools abilities, right? I’m just learning. Some of the comments seen harsh! Tutus, you the man. Great work. Who cares what it costs. Like people need a 200,000 car to drive to work. Make stuff...
Machinists on youtube always want to flaunt how fast they can make something. It's ALWAYS a race, but in reality most people are just making quick videos that aren't claiming to be supreme mass production. The more videos you watch the more you see people nitpicking clips like this that are clearly only test projects for students to run Fusion360, but still everybody whines like babies about it. lol
dwanatip Yea it is always a race. If a tool isn't cutting is wasting time. That's how it is in the industry and it's why CNC programmers get paid so much
I know, I'm a CNC programmer full time. But not every youtube video is an example of mass production. For example this vertical mill is very limited in RPM and rotation axis speed yet I see people posting comments like "you should make it on a faster machine" as if that's even an option for a community college like this.
My god that's pretty. And I really like how you put the info in the bottom left.
Very cool - I have no experience with 360 but I've heard good things - they have a lot of the big names on Instagram machining flogging for them these days. I've been a Mastercam guy for the last 10 years, but I'm falling out of love with it the more I see stuff like this. Keep up the good work!
thanks! We currently teach mastercam because it's coincidentally very popular here in our local area, but we're trying to move toward a more unified solution for upcoming courses. We also teach Solidworks and Inventor, and use Fusion360 for our 3d printing lab, so taking advantage of Autodesk's ease-of-accessibility is a big factor for the future.
For CAM only Solution there's no competition for Mastercam, if you want "All round Solution" i.e. CAD-CAE-CAM Fusion 360 is Numero Uno..
that machine is INCREDIBLE! :O
Absolutely beautiful piece. I would love to learn how to do this.
holy smoke - you guys are badass - can I ever going to be able to program like this help me GOD
I feel like the crown chamfers and base facets could have been cut in a much more efficient tool path instead of trying to show off your 4th and 5th axis movements. It's still a circle by all intents and purposes, so rotating it 45 degrees to make each base facet would have been substantially more efficient.
Dood, we need more awesome vijeos like this...
That design is the best I've seen. Do you happen to make the whole chess set for sale?
Very nice piece. It is normal for machines to waste a lot of time rotating the part 270 degrees when 45 or less would do, but I don't know why, just I see it a lot. I think 5 axis is not required here, 4 should do it. Particularly, a bar feeding lathe mill machine with a rotary tool turret could do this in a LOT less time, using the lathe for basic shape including the top end inner shape, and a mill for angled details. I cannot see every contour, there might be something that wouldn't quite work, but nobody would know the difference. With so many flats, a Y axis would be needed, maybe, but you could come close with just a basic 3 axis with Z-X-C operations.
that is gonna be one expensive chess board
No kidding! A few years go we had an engineering student who made a whole chess set from 2 inch stainless steel, and she spent all summer on it. We make "regular size" 1 inch chess pieces but even those ones take a good amount of time to make 32 full pieces. But it's a really fun project and a great learning experience.
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WCC Mechatronics serious question how much is it worth of one regular size stainless steel chess for those?
+LightGod 225
@LightGod 225
The machine cost is usually ~150$ per hour for a 3 axis machine. This 5 axis machine is much higher in what concerns overall cost, I'll take a guess and say it's about twice as much. So 300$ per hour for using the machine. Then we have the operators salary which is 50$-150$ per hour. Since this machine takes skill to use we will say 150$. The material cost in total for the chess set is not more than 100$ even if it's SLS.
This video is 5 minutes, the machining time for 1 chess piece. This means ~ 2,5 hours actual machining time. We then add ~1 hour to this for the operators setup time between each piece and cutting of the material before it enters the machine. Rounding that of to 3,5 hours in total.
That would be about 1400$ in total, give or take. This is without the company actually making money so add another 10-20% to the total.
Gustav Ferdman I'd love to live wherever you do that operators get paid $50-$150 /hr......
Hats off to the person who wrote entire program for this profile
The swarf move seems a little jumpy on the axis rotation. Doesn't seem to affect the finish, but is interesting.
what's the deal with the interspersed coolant? good way to crack your carbide tooling from thermal shock.
makes it easier to view the action! definitely not recommended for general use.
WCC Mechatronics in that case you'd be better off just running dry
poofire it's aluminum, not a ferro or stainless
Aluminum galls very easily when cut without lubrication.
poofire yes, but thermal shock isn't an issue here. Feed a bit more and a little lube every now and then will do when using top quality milling tools. In fact, dry machining aluminum is getting more and more doable compared to a few years ago :-)
Nigga im just here cause this shit looks cool as hell😂😂
That is a pretty part, and your use of coolant is good, but your CAM is very inefficient. Many operations could have been performed without a retract or rotation, and several operations appear to use the same tool but separated by multiple tool changes.
i want that chess King . loved it.
for your simultaneous swarf type moves may be better if you unlock the brakes not sure the code on a Haas but I know I have to do that on my mazak 5 axis and 4 axis to get smooth multi axis cycles.
would like one of these vf5 Haas and a shop for xmas please
Look at those tool paths! In the words of Al Bundy 'oh baby oh baby'
Hi, which post processor you used for Haas VF5 ? And can you help me to get that processor
Hello - I used the "Haas Trunnion" 5-axis post for this workpiece. It was available from the HSM/Fusion post library, you might be able to search for it on google. That post basically works with any Coldfire Haas using a 5-axis indexer like this.
very good
Sir app ka thank u good machining
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Why is the rotary motion so intermittent? I'd guess you'd get funny surface artifacts from that.
It's due to the "HSM" control option not being enabled on this controller, so it creates tiny hesitations around each line of movement.
Thank you for share~ How much about this 5 axis machine?
Wow!
Simultaneous 4/5 axis motion not sure about that? 3 axis simultaneous at most. but looks good :)
It may seem that the part isn't moving in all 5 axes, but the code is written using a simultaneous path. THe final operation takes on the appearance of "turn milling" when the workpiece is centered on its fixture like this. In reality it's not perfectly centered, if only misaligned by 0.002" in X and Y, so the code has some tiny variations in XYZAB. We need a more complex demo!
very good job, I am interested in the workpiece. Can you tell me this type of workpiece or send me a plan? thank you.
is there a tutorial for cam somewhere??
Hi nice work!..Is it possible with Fusion 360 to show the 5 axis table moving in the cam simulation to check for collisions.? Thanks.
That feature hasn't been added as of now, but it may be added in the future. However, you can model the CNC's table and rotary hardware to visually check (that's the easy method).
Awsome video ,what machine is that ?
Hey I have a question about running trunnions. I recently got one installed on my vf2, I have no prior experience with running trunnion tables and when I’m running my program on my machine it’s not doing with its showing on my simulation. Like for example. When I orientate the A and B axis 90 it might not go deep enough or come down enough to cut the part
Just wondering if I didnt find the center of rotation right or something. There is like no tutorials or steps on what to do when the table is installed
Awesome!
I’ve been looking at buying one of these Haas Mini Mills for manufacturing small aluminium parts for vintage paintball guns and firearms.
One a part has gone through milling can it be inverted and mounted into the fixture again for a second step? Or will re-mounting disrupt the accuracy since the machine is stating from a previously milled part and can’t account for slight irregularities in the mounting process? For instance if you were to want to mill the bottom of that chess piece.
I was thinking with the 5-axis option on the Mini Mill can find a way to install the aluminum stock so the finished part is held in the fixture by an end where the finished product will have flat or almost flat surface then cut off the extra and grind/sand the final surface. But on a more complex shape where both ends need to be round like cylinder with cylindrical ends a second milling will always be required. Would this machine be capable of this?
Yep a Minimill would absolutely work for your parts (we have two Minimills here). However I would say that the finished workpiece's quality depends more on the specific manufacturing method/process that you use to create it more than the machine itself. You would need to figure out a way to flip the part around and hold it reliably in the machine, without spending a huge amount of time. 5-axis equipment is good for certain things but can be limiting for other things, in fact many times you can get away with a regular mill vise for side1 then make some custom vise jaws for side2. Cylindrical parts are better suited for a lathe, but some of them can be made on a mill. This is just barely scratching the surface but hopefully it gives you the right direction!
WCC Mechatronics thanks that’s very helpful!
The Haas machines are very impressive. I like the probing system and dynamic work offset/tool center options to make life a little easier. The UMC-750 machine is also very nice but quite a bit more expensive then a Mini Mill with 4th and 5th axis options. The built in tilt/rotate free up a lot of space for larger parts in the future in a similar footprint.
When exporting CAD files to the machine software to write the IPS program does the machine break it down into multiple steps? Or would I need to make a new CAD file for each work in progress phase of the parts milling?
Yes, the IPS code generator will break the program into different modules (usually). There's certain codes that must be stated at the start of a module which allows you to run the code from that point rather than starting at the beginning every time. Sometimes, a complex part could benefit from multiple CAD files, but it really depends on how the code is generated since some CAM programs use the model itself (such as Fusion360 in this video) but other programs can use basic 2d lines or points. It's just a different way to complete the same task, but the more "modern" CAM programs are *very* easy to use. If you have any local technical schools nearby, I'd definitely suggest taking a class or two since they can let you experiment with their equipment!
WCC Mechatronics. Yes there are lots of education options here in Toronto. I’m more of a hands on kinda guy which is why I went into business. I could see a CNC program paying dividends in the long run though.
I was hoping with buying a nice new or almost new machine with intelligent probing, dynamic work offset, and tool center it would take most of the burden off of me. Then I can focus on building good fixtures to hold my work and the machine can do the rest and hopefully with some trial and error figure it out.
The parts I want to build I own physical copies of so I’m hoping with a good 3D scanner, and 3D scanning program I can stitch together the scans and export into CAD with minimal design modifications other then double checking the crucial dimensions that interface with other parts. Should make reverse engineering a lot quicker for parts that are a little more curvy to at least have something to start from.
I was thinking of buying a Pocket NC or Xendoll mini CNC to play around with setting up tool paths. Very small investment but can still play around with all the back end software before a big machine is delivered and wasting air/electricity on parts that end up in the scrap metal bin.
Thanks for your time and insight on programming it was very helpful!
Great video (and nice part, too)! I was curious on #3 in your list: you said you programmed the 4/5 axis motion outside Fusion 360, what did you program it in? Since the video, has Fusion 360 gained full 5 axis?
Yep Fusion added the 5-axis contour operation only a few days after we made this part. Afterward we went back and added the toolpath within the main program. The cutting is basically identical, but Fusion's motion is more clean. We have a couple other projects that will hit the machine as soon as Fusion adds their 5-axis surfacing options.
Only a few days later? Of course :)
Ah, I see the "Multi-Axis Contour" now. What did (do?) you guys use for 5 axis surfacing?
Previously we were teaching both Surfcam and Mastercam but we've moved toward a more unified solution with Fusion360. It's just going to get better as more features are added :)
What did you use for the Post processor?
This workpiece was posted using the Haas 5-axis trunnion post, which for some reason is not included in the default Fusion/HSM posts (but you can download it off autodesk's HSM post library).
what type of CNC?
Does Fusion360/ InventorHSM support simultaneous 5 axes yet?
Yep the 5-axis contour feature was added recently. There's additional toolpaths that are yet to be unlocked (multisurface etc), but that will come in time!
There's something up with the feed/speeds/tooling/rigidity. Great work, but it just doesn't sound happy.
The tools need more speed! But this machine only has 8100-RPM, so everything is a little slower...
thanks for posting!
how did you center the stock on the 5th rotary?
The round fixture mounted on the rotary platter was made to be as precise as possible. It uses the rotary's thru-bore for alignment. Hypothetically if you needed absolute accuracy then you could measure the material stock's position then adjust it inside Fusion by creating a new WCS coordinate system just slightly offset.
Thanks
Cnc is ezmode btw
out of interest, would anyone be able to estimate the individual cost of this one piece? materials, time and labour included.
It depends on the hourly rate for the equipment (and programming), but a component like this that requires about 15 minutes to cut might cost around $20-40. There are much quicker ways to manufacture it, since this was not meant to be a "production" program, and this CNC is somewhat limited...so the price could change depending on the equipment and quantity.
Could you tell me how activate full 5 axis function?
The full 5ax programming isn't available yet (at the time of this writing), what we had to do was patch in the NC code separately. Once the full simultaneous multiaxis motion is available then we can finish the Rook program all within Fusion360.
is this a showcase of the toolings?
there's a lot of wasted time tbh
Alex Ngu No... read the video description.
Must be the first time this guy made a programm
i think too. i never programm CNC but i see many many steps who can do better.
6:17 catsle walls finish is some good...
without Z moves between
and not clockwise i think half time?
3 + 2 axis. Not 5-axis.
whats a machine like this cost?
This machine was $145k :)
Mmmmmm SHINY!!
I need a nail like this for dabs
this cad is like djs who cheat with sync mode
also, it would be good to know if this post produces edit free code. Istead of using the UMC post that is optimized to use DWO and TCP.
cam.autodesk.com/posts/?p=haas_trunnion
nice tip on the cut order, I'll pass that along! This video was made a few weeks ago actually, I don't believe the programmer was aware of the post library at the time (he used the UMC post then converted the BC coordinates to AB, and changed a few other things). Having said that, he used the same CAM module last weekend for a 5ax demo that we were exhibiting, posted through the trunnion AB-coordinate post. Not sure if he did any editing at that point, but I'm sure it was easier with the correct post!
Great but there are lots of useless machining steps. Also could be far better on a Deckel Maho or Hurco.
About coolant: dont do it! It can ruin the surface and the tool too!
wtf you talking about? wasted machining step? sometimes it better to control your cuts removing the material from both sides as your steping down to stabilize/better balance your part tolerance. DMG and hurco sucks ass. Try a Matsuura. No coolant on Aluminum? hahahaha
wow there is a lot of really bizarre comments in here from people that don't know shit
bukake coolant
From one CNC programmer to another, there is a lot of wasted cycle time here. If tool is not cutting chips its wasting time which increases cost. Nice shape but needs some manual optimisation to the program. Automatic program generation always has too much fresh air cutting. Expensive pieces or will take a long time to pay your machine off.
Greg White
How much money do you think a machine like that costs?
About 100.000 Euros. How do you think your comment contributes to a discussion with the original post? I don't see any connection.
Rainer Zufall
I agreed with your comment about cutting time efficiency and I had nothing to add, someone like you with an important information might know how much a machine like that costs, because was always curious about the cost of 5 axis machine, that’s all thanks
From the description of the video: "This workpiece is not meant to demonstrate the most efficient cutting methods and the fastest machines. It's just a demo project."
Greg White I'm not a CNC programmer myself but a 3d printer, but the first thing going through my mind during theroughing was "Why are those paths so inefficient?
cnc programmers have way too much free time :)
Definitely don't use that program for production haha
I felt I needed to say that the way the coolant was profuse,then dribbly... stopped. Then profuse again was like a drunken vomiting teenager.😨
Seems like a whole lot of wasted moves/time.
Too much travel for that piece, review the CAM
Behzad shiraz haghighi haasvmc win$$$1000000 iran
what a horribly loud cnc machine
hahaha, haas machines... cools only one side of the tool lmao
nathan prochnau are you serious? The tool spins so you.get coolant all over
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