Twelve spoke aluminium rim star high-speed milled on DATRON M8Cube

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2017
  • Originally created for a racing car developed by the FaSTDa student racing team. Autodesk Fusion 360 used to create a precise tool path. A special clamping fixture keeps the part in place and allows for precise milling of the details.
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  • @pivkaaa
    @pivkaaa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im getting goosebumps from that precision :d

  • @gazthewoodsman6483
    @gazthewoodsman6483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for sharing this. I am an old school tool maker (manual machinist), never used CNC but that was an impressive result, even more so for only 62 minutes total machining time. Very nice work!!

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much! We are very pleased that you like our result and pass on your positive feedback. Have a nice day, your DATRON team

  • @Kiboz2000
    @Kiboz2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice tool paths there...great machine and at the end great result.

  • @RoboCNCnl
    @RoboCNCnl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the M8

  • @user-vy6sv6xk7p
    @user-vy6sv6xk7p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How cool is that, amazing work guys, thanks a lot!!!

  • @melchoravillaneda180
    @melchoravillaneda180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!. I love machine works!. Thank you for the video!.

  • @chrisyboy666
    @chrisyboy666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been on the Apps 25 year nice work 👍😊

  • @christurnblom4825
    @christurnblom4825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful part & great solution.

  • @Phantomthecat
    @Phantomthecat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Vid. The fixture plate for the second op is very nice! :)

  • @wald3mar
    @wald3mar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool looking part. Nicely done.

  • @WestBerlinCustoms
    @WestBerlinCustoms 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's so nice to watch the machine removing material. That fixture ist very smart and the result is impressive! A nice example for #MadeInGermany 😎👍

  • @paddyflake
    @paddyflake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Video - would love to see more Vids with commentary on your Channel 👍🏻

  • @LoppanH
    @LoppanH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's amazing how they can make machines that are so precise.

    • @cutty02
      @cutty02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its all gearing a electronics. Mostly Servos/Steppers

  • @zoopets9665
    @zoopets9665 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice modifications by Datron

  • @watchere
    @watchere 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fusion! nice to see the fillet tool actually fillet stuff haha

  • @agoodwon
    @agoodwon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool a new fast forward machining centre

  • @mehulpatel8132
    @mehulpatel8132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent May be useful for student community to under stand the use of CNCs

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing to watch

  • @onepairofhands
    @onepairofhands 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool video, thanks for sharing

  • @softwarephil1709
    @softwarephil1709 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful!

  • @agnesybk1770
    @agnesybk1770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool,I love it!

  • @samboles8796
    @samboles8796 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nice machine and obviously a very competent programmer,
    Thanks for posting

    • @jchelm1979
      @jchelm1979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really.... It's a basic part any programmer should be able to do it. A good one would do it faster 😉

    • @Hanal503
      @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jchelm1979 faster no......its okay like that....3d fucking milling there fin and rough...a lot of time!

  • @muhamadalattar7158
    @muhamadalattar7158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    تسلمون وعاشت الايادي ونشكركم على النشر

  • @ilyapro2815
    @ilyapro2815 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a piece of art

  • @bangtaicongnghiep376
    @bangtaicongnghiep376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice glitter, thank you author

  • @moatddtutorials
    @moatddtutorials 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching the gear teeth get milled out suddenly reminded me of Bishop's combat knife scene at the start of Aliens

  • @foadrightnow5725
    @foadrightnow5725 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a work of art! Beautiful!

  • @17yarik
    @17yarik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Love CNC Machines? because it's really cool!

  • @hms1688
    @hms1688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work!!! We also have rich experience in sheet metal fab, we are a strong manufacturer in China, with high quality and competitive price.

  • @farmerx165
    @farmerx165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:46 what it looks like when machines rise up and mill your face off

  • @CptSinep-cu5fp
    @CptSinep-cu5fp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    where was that high-speed milling?

  • @kalabrushka
    @kalabrushka 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    das 3D-Entgraten ist cool

  • @VitorGustavoSantAna
    @VitorGustavoSantAna 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING

  • @cocopandan
    @cocopandan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing...

  • @EUnit111986
    @EUnit111986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For showcasing this was well done and 60 min for the entire part (does that include setup?) Doesnt sound unreasonable. For a multiple piece order doing all the round stuff on the lathe would save a lot of time though.
    All in all its an impressive machine for what it is. Always enjoy somebody else's approach in programming

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Mr. Peters. Sure, for mass production you would optimize a few steps. Anyhow this project was a combination of showcase and prototyping. 60 mins was only the machining time, 40 for first and 20 for 2nd and 3rd setup. Have a nice day, your DATRON team

  • @kuhnandreas5694
    @kuhnandreas5694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    15:09 *pop* noice

  • @Skitad
    @Skitad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    expert moves

  • @sieglindehoppe3861
    @sieglindehoppe3861 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hallo könnt ihr bitte erklären wir ihr mit Fusion 360 CAM die 3D Phase erstellt?

  • @luismigueldominguez5487
    @luismigueldominguez5487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente trabajo, 👍👍sería muy bueno poder ver el código G de esta pieza,para los que estamos aprendiendo sería muy didáctico, gracias por enseñar.

  • @clintw438
    @clintw438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this video! Do you think using a 4th axis would improve machining time for something like this?

    • @Hanal503
      @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

      5 axis..... :))))))))))))))))))))...wtf is that.......simple 3x

  • @DesignDynamicTactical
    @DesignDynamicTactical 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We were considering a Datron a while back for our shop. Question; is that the maximum depth of cut? Seems very shallow.

  • @estebanperez1955
    @estebanperez1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    genious fisics

  • @nivaldopinheiro1572
    @nivaldopinheiro1572 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magestic!

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I adore the overkill shown here, but only because I'm not paying for it.

    • @deeznutz2646
      @deeznutz2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The material and tooling probably cost about $65 USD. Machine, not as cheap lol.

    • @Honzishek
      @Honzishek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      65 dollars for mats and tooling ? :D ? :D i dont know the price in america ofc :D

  • @madeinhome3005
    @madeinhome3005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    perfect finishing.done a good job.

  • @karlosarts2011
    @karlosarts2011 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfeita!!

  • @shotgunreloader4964
    @shotgunreloader4964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love it one day if you would explain the use of ethanol as coolant, only aluminum etc? special venting needed? it does evaporate but it still is a ethanol just in vapor form and seems that the only filters in room might be the lungs?

    • @kinsellakp
      @kinsellakp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shotgun Reloader you get a great surface finish on aluminum with it. If you don't have your head in the enclosure it's probably fine. I mean unless your just intentionally huffing it. Toxicity according to the internets is 600mg/kg he probably weights 60 or 70 kilos, I would think it would take a whole lot of exposure to have any effect at all.

    • @TheSmartStar
      @TheSmartStar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've run one of these, you can only really smell it if you're face is right up against the enclosure. Otherwise it's fine. Wait a minute or 2 before opening up for the ethanol to evaporate and you won't even be able to smell it once the door is open. Plus it keeps the chips and part dry so it's just an airgun blast to clean the table down.

    • @shotgunreloader4964
      @shotgunreloader4964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do appreciate the reply, I tried it last night and the stuff is fantastic on aluminum. I came to conclusion that the alcohol vapor is not carcinogenic and in the small vol used not an issue for me. The dry parts are a welcome development. Regards.

  • @jeffharwood624
    @jeffharwood624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like the Datron salesman told me, "Not for mass production". They wear out to quick.

    • @chm9400
      @chm9400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We use some Datrons for large batches of different aluminum components. They work very reliable for years now. Of course they are not made for heavy milling but with high spindle RPM, figh feeds and HSC strategies we get very good cycle times.

  • @Thepriest39
    @Thepriest39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing how you held the part for the second op. Work holding can get complicated.

    • @Hanal503
      @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

      correct...just a bit.....this is hand home made ......the fixture.....but some companies provide smart clamping system!

  • @user-pg5xs9qj9s
    @user-pg5xs9qj9s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    朋友上來時給大家能知道,好東西南北部個位分享受用良多讚

  • @yongliangqin8673
    @yongliangqin8673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:55 when the machine sound syncs with the background music that's some real metal

  • @jota5969
    @jota5969 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Art.

  • @bobrpggamer5899
    @bobrpggamer5899 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.

  • @CalvinEdmonson
    @CalvinEdmonson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to make fixturing like this but now I'm doing, YAWN, CNC lathe production. Yawn, just typing it makes me drowsy. I am liking these DATRON machines.

  • @markottv_9065
    @markottv_9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I’m using Fusion360 at work, and I would like to know what process you use when you realize the extern finishing path for the first operation. Tks

  • @daleksw
    @daleksw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking as someone who races cars for a hobby and recently acquired a small CNC mill to manufacture more parts, I just WANT one of those - and 4 of the wheels!

  • @hoangkhaichiem4305
    @hoangkhaichiem4305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect

  • @Flightstar
    @Flightstar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im curious what this part retails for after all that work.

  • @kylet2381
    @kylet2381 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good

  • @fabriciocarlos657
    @fabriciocarlos657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo!

  • @joepie221
    @joepie221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun to watch, But I would not sign off on that process. Get one of your guys to make that manually. That would be something I'd come back for.

  • @Sebastian_Bareyro
    @Sebastian_Bareyro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the 1 setup. First of need do all inside surface, after - outside. When you do rough, do 15 mm ap, 5 mm ae for 12mm diameter end mill. Students!

  • @austinsears1637
    @austinsears1637 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A real race car.....

  • @utahknivesandgearnick7647
    @utahknivesandgearnick7647 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The machining was great! But why not use a lathe with a Y axis to make the part complete? I’m sure it would cut runtime in half and make a more concentric part, which for a race car rim seems to be the most important part. Not bashing, maybe you have an excellent reason for running it on a mill, I was just curious:)

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, thank you for your interested inquiry. The question is quite simple to answer: We do not build lathes and therefore have no lathes with Y-axis :-) That's why the rim star is manufactured on our milling machine. Best regards, your DATRON team.

  • @Ale_Lab
    @Ale_Lab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Datron CNC. I have a small CNC mill for hobby purpose and by looking at this video I see most of the toolpaths are moving in conventional milling. Ok for facing operation, but I see 2D contour and others not in climb milling. Is there a reason for that? Since I believe they master these knowledges. Thx

    • @Hanal503
      @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

      yws...its normal.....using zig zag .....no need one direction....

  • @JohnDoe-gv9jv
    @JohnDoe-gv9jv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you program this part? at the machine controller(what type) are offline, what software? Good job and it works great. I am surprised about the dry cutting, but I would prefer to have dry. I just thought maybe clogging up on the end mill would be an issue? I guess not. Thanks for sharing.

    • @lo2740
      @lo2740 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      man, you should learn how to read the description...

    • @Hanal503
      @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

      fusion 365 :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) in video you have it:)))))))

  • @THERMITEHEADS
    @THERMITEHEADS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what type of cooling did he use pressurized air + oil/ alcohol?

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello, you're right, it uses air + alcohol (ethanol). Best regards, your DATRON team

  • @TWISTED0880
    @TWISTED0880 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it might just be me but it seems the machine is a bit shaky is that just the camera mount if not i cant imagine that part is down to the thousandth accurate

  • @jeremytenorio3099
    @jeremytenorio3099 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the specs on that granite table? What's the wear like? Can you lap it when you wear a belly in it, if so must you tram it to the spindle? Not sure in that.

  • @mikaelwadeberg9833
    @mikaelwadeberg9833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @gettoolvn9829
    @gettoolvn9829 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!

  • @Hanal503
    @Hanal503 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 points from BAE.......for example! PERFECT!...We made the second op in the clamping system ...chuck....3 points slots fixed ...no issue!

  • @williamdavila6339
    @williamdavila6339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Run op1 and op2 in the cnc lathe to get blanks , then cut pockets and holes in the cnc mill, 42 minutes total run time !

    • @hiemabedrog
      @hiemabedrog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They probably don't have a cnc lathe?

  • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
    @DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it wrong that I have a woody right now? Damn I want that CNC!

  • @houdini178
    @houdini178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to hang one on my wall... art!

  • @8skywalker8
    @8skywalker8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I ask,
    1) What camera have you used to film?
    2) What (if any) lights you have used?
    3) What mounts you used to hold the camera during filming?

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, we are happy to answer your questions. For this video, the Panasonic LX100 was used with a standard tripod. The lighting was provided by a 5500K LED ceiling light and 2 5500K LED lights. Have a nice day, your DATRON team.

    • @8skywalker8
      @8skywalker8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the reply! Great film!

  • @yangmanbuzhe6102
    @yangmanbuzhe6102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @k.oa.s.m.r9433
    @k.oa.s.m.r9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice
    Really looking good and smooth
    To slow friend
    Try to use 12 or 16 end mill with 4 flutes for aluminium and making the rough in just 2 steps around and making the hss from inside to out then no need to lot of steps of prapering the surface take end mill with radius 0.5 for that you will save about 20 minutes
    Your programming looks really nice the autodesk looks nice nc program
    And why not drilling and reaming
    For a mass production the end mill can make problems not like carbide reamer straight flutes

    • @ipadize
      @ipadize 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is not a big VMC, have you seen the toolholders? they are as big as a 16mm endmill

  • @kurupz
    @kurupz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why no lead in/lead out on your champers just out of curiosity?

  • @NerdlyCNC
    @NerdlyCNC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to look into a 5-axis set up for some small parts i make

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      @user-vi1sv3ft4d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @nearlaya100
    @nearlaya100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!

  • @jackflash6377
    @jackflash6377 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Fusion 360 gives "dynamic and efficient toolpaths"?? I must be using the wrong version.

    • @harrylou90
      @harrylou90 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

    • @maxholler1182
      @maxholler1182 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know the same problem with Esprit CAD/CAM. There are so many possibilities and options that you're happy if it simply works. Ultimately you just let it run instead of trying around two hours to get a smoother tool path.

    • @deeznutz2646
      @deeznutz2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxholler1182 You use Esprit?

    • @maxholler1182
      @maxholler1182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes and also the toolpaths are getting better. ;)

    • @IvoTrausch
      @IvoTrausch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a Formula Student project, so they probably used Fusion360 because it's free.

  • @EVgenrator
    @EVgenrator 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Чрезвычайно дорогая деталь. Непрактично, но очень красиво. Технофетишь и только.

  • @DanRazah
    @DanRazah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They have some very interesting machines, but easily the most rude sales representatives I have ever contacted.

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Mr Rogers, we are very sorry that you were not satisfied with the service. We hope the next experience you'll have with our representatives will be better. Have a nice Christmas time! Your DATRON team

    • @DanRazah
      @DanRazah 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for taking the time to reply.

  • @daserstereichen
    @daserstereichen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    during drilling, the camera on the tool head makes it look like the part is shaking, when the camera is of the machine, the tool head looks like its shaking. (shaking > circulatory mov. to produce a large diam. whole with a small diam. tool)

  • @pfrillele
    @pfrillele 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello ,do you know what kind of Aluminium this is?Thanks.

  • @wbmobrabiarki4771
    @wbmobrabiarki4771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious. What could be the full cost(material and process), I am just curious. It has not to be precise.

  • @ChrisUhlik
    @ChrisUhlik 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the approximate list price of this Datron M8Cube machine?

  • @jimmeisch6654
    @jimmeisch6654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    With some fast light 20 sec finish machining

  • @argentosebastian
    @argentosebastian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see a bunch of videos on TH-cam machining aluminium without coolant. Is that the standard way to do it?

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, we definitely use a cooling system :-) We use ethanol in the form of a minimum quantity cooling system, to be seen at minute 06:18. Have a nice day, your DATRON team

  • @Krispykashew
    @Krispykashew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fast for such a small machine..

  • @kataoya
    @kataoya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my fav

  • @koitk
    @koitk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the M8Cube rigid tap?

  • @jimmeisch6654
    @jimmeisch6654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youre babying the cutter it can take bigger stepovers

  • @maddoxinc1642
    @maddoxinc1642 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I wanted to become a machine operator to do work like this and 3d design, where would I start?

  • @tomashaintl2763
    @tomashaintl2763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i don't know i don't have years of practise in machining but wouldn't it be faster on 3or5-axis lathe with mill it would take same as here two clamping but second would be mainly for finishes and it should have probably better surface quality

    • @DATRONAG
      @DATRONAG  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Mr. Haintl, in small series, our customer does not have to buy a lathe, because it works without it :) If the number goes into the 1000s, then a lathe makes sense. Best regards, your DATRON team

  • @user-pg5xs9qj9s
    @user-pg5xs9qj9s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    分享,出來朋友大老闆知道讚

  • @user-ce6zd4nz4u
    @user-ce6zd4nz4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    모델링 잘하는사람이네

  • @michaelespiritu2908
    @michaelespiritu2908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am missing the "efficient toolpaths" here

    • @cutty02
      @cutty02 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you see how many air passes he did on the spokes...lol

  • @OriginalJetForMe
    @OriginalJetForMe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any chance you'd be willing to share the Fusion 360 file for this?

    • @vibesstr
      @vibesstr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope ?