Take Me To Church | Curse of Politics
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Today's episode of #CurseOfPolitics was created by #AirQuotesMedia with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail.
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David Herle, Scott Reid, Jordan Leichnitz and Kory Teneycke provide insights on the latest in Canadian politics. Plus, our weekly segments #Clippings + #HeyYou!
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Scott's point that courting the evangelical vote doesn't sit well with Canadians is true to a point - I've seen how derisive many Canadians are about those who attend church. But it also feels gross to discriminate against politicians meeting with one religious group and not another. How many politicians go to mosques to court that vote? All of them. Do we hear anything about anti-LGBTQ views of that community? Never. I worry that the Liberals and NDP will once again try to pit Canadians against each other and demonize Christians in the process.
It’s already happening.
"Faith is merely fear clothed in virtue." C.H.
Count the # of fire damaged churches versus all others in Canada. Or consider the meaning overlooked by this quartet of Einsteinian tinkers.
@@stuckinlodi100 people have a right to religious freedom regardless of what you or CH thinks. What a world we’re becoming.
As an evangelical, I’m always amused how progressive political operatives talk about us as if we were a leper community that should be avoided at all costs.
Most of our churches that have seen growth owe it to immigrants from Asian, African, and South American countries coming into our congregations. Visiting an evangelical church is often an effective way of reaching into many ethnic communities.
Plus, evangelicals in Canada are much more diverse in their political ideology than the US version. I know many who are progressive in their thinking. Although you can only treat people with contempt for so long before it bites you in the backside.
The discussion reminds me of a cut off and distant political class that is far removed from the reality of everyday Canadians.
I think you guys are crazy to think this govt can hold on until 2026. Canadians will be in the streets if that’s the case.
Agreed. Not to mention the government already tried to change the election date and failed.
Man, this Scott guy is more bitter than a bag of 🍋 🍋 🍋.
He is pissed both Biden & Trudeau havn’t resigned yet while Democrats & Liberals clearly still have a worthwhile chance to win their next elections with new Leaders.😂😂
Funny guy though
Go to a mosque or temple and its viewed as positive, go to church .... handmaids tale lol its amazing
What is a pretty direct dog whistle?
One that is pointed directly at the dog
Where are the unions David asked Jordan, well we know where the hierarchy is, but I'll bet my house where the members are at. Most are solidly in the Poilievre camp. I have many friends who work at Stellantis in Windsor and every one of them is now supporting
Poilievre, and they tell me virtually all their co-workers are supporters as well.
Private union members vote conservative, public union members more often don't.
I do wonder if some of your panelists have ever met anyone belonging to this exotic species “new Canadian evangelicals”. You might be amazed and even humbled by some of them. Might be worth getting to know a few. Also I do recall that there was a certain political party founded by a Baptist pastor. I think his name was Tommy Douglas. The left needs to ask how they lost these folks. It’s not too late.
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Trope. If it’s Christian. Apparently not if it’s a mosque. I’m am SO SICK of this bs. Join The Let’s Further Divide Canadians Bandwagon, Jordan.
I’m 4.50 into the podcast; such a lovely way to open the discussion.
As an average Canadian guy with little understanding of religion why is this a huge deal but going to a mosque or synagogue not?
Because whatever Trudeau does is OK. If Trudeau does not do it but Pierre does then Pierre is condemned. Trudeau went to the Calgary Stampeded last year and there was no problem. This year Trudeau doesn't go but Pierre does and Pierre is condemned. That is the way most Liberals roll..
Im so glad the telecom company that funds this just layed off 7500 longtime employees and these people get to spew nothing burgers
Y u here then
@@kqh123 Y u think they shouldn’t. Y not like freedom?
It popped up on my feed and I commented because of how immediately cringe and embarrassing it is for these talking heads to make $$$ and advertise for Telus while they just layed off 7500 of their important workforce. I guess the budget cuts didn't touch this bullsh!t
@@user-lb4vf3qg7v your grammar is terrible!
@@antonmerley6629 ok makes sense. Probably for the best that you won't be coming back
Trudeau is not leaving before he hosts the G7 Summit next Spring and absorbs all the photo ops, networking and interviewing for post-PM life 😂😂
Mainstream normies... But without the audience or relevancy 🤡🤡🤡
As someone who tends to get put dead-center on the politcal spectrum, centrist parties are dying on the hill of bizarre ahistorical mass migration.
For the love of (Evangelical) God why can't centrist parties just be normal and win by being normal?
The CPC is about as centrist as it gets. They're basically the Liberals of the 90's with a dash of Harper.
I think a point that Liberals and supporters seems to forget is that those new Canadians, by far and large are very religious. Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs. There are also a lot of very christian immigrants. Ukrainians, Filipinos, and other Asians like Vietnamese tend to be very Christian. Considering that the overwhelming majority of the immigrant population is socially conservative, it is and investment, not a liability. These people voted liberals for a long time. Until the gender ideology and new woke social values came into play. I think Liberals are in for a harsh awakening in the future. Especially if we continue to receive immigrants from the middle, east, India and southeast Asia. No wonder Pierre is talking about social issues so much. It's the different between talking to the electorate and talking to PMO sycophants.
Cory holds his own quite well when up against two Libs and one dipper. Although I suspect Scott and David are more old-school Liberals. I've never noted Liberal but I would take a Cretien/Martin administration any day over what we have now.
Kory
Come on David, what do you have against Sam Cooper?
Sam Cooper is a goddamn patriot. More than I can say for half this podcast panel. His Substack “The Bureau” is worth every penny and his book “Wilful Blindness” was excellent.
Yes I was wondering what that was about as well. Is Sam Cooper not legit?
@@kqh123 Sam Cooper writes a blog "The Bureau" on Chinese interference in Canadian elections and overall influence in Canadian politics and the Liberal Party's apparent willingness or willful compliance as per the news a couple of weeks ago. He wrote a book called "Willful Blindness" on the subject a couple three years ago.
@@BarryBaldwin-u3x yup I am familiar with his work. But my question was do David (and others) not consider him legit? As you said, David seemed to make a statement about him there.
@@kqh123 My guess is that David, being a long serving, hard core and devoted liberal loyalist, doesn't want to acknowledge or possibly repudiates Cooper's accusations.
Charities report that the drop in religiosity is making it more difficult to raise money for charity. Religious people are more likely to donate time and money.
Leftist abandonment of the religious voting base strikes me as upstream of the dearth of donations with which they can fund that ad campaign.
Political Parties are not charities they have a separate distinction.
@@Sam19509But religious people give their money. That’s the point. I’m religious and I give $1000 to the conservatives Jan 1 every single year when I like what they’re doing.
I’m a Catholic and don’t believe what evangelicals believe but the dozens I’ve met are lightyears more pleasant than your average progressive.
My call is Trudeau will feign capitulation (he actually likes this idea) to Singh's demand to put ENGO's on Canadian bank and financial institutional boards in exchange for extending the supply and confidence agreement to 2026. An ND LPC merger must also quietly being considered.
Kory please don’t set your hair on fire. You would lose your suaveness 😂 and your beret wouldn’t fit as well. ❤🫶🏻 No talk of Garneau’s book?? You cowards 😂 Scott & Jordan are reaching their best before date on this pod. 👋🏻👋🏻 and FYI Kory has often been critical of Pierre and some of his tactics, antics, missteps. Pay closer attention Scott rather than talking over people and the constant pearl clutching. But at least you’ve eliminated the screeching of your “grievance politics!!!!” screed. Jesus H. Touch grass.
The 3/4 left of centre pundits show how little they understand the evangelical subject. Kory is right, these are safely ethnic voters. They're not visiting Henry Hildebrandt. Generally, white evangelicals in Canada would feel a little weird seeing a politician give a partisan speech in church. A church predominantly made up of new Canadians, on the other hand, sees itself as a source of cultural resources for its members, and meeting the next PM is a cultural resource. If you're a Conservative who wants to take a bunch of Liberal seats in the GTA, these are the people you go and see.
They are missing a big undertone that is likely not talked about much in their bubble….pegging evangelicals as the boogeymen that Canadians don’t like may have had some negative weight in the past, but now it is more about freedom. Freedom actually IS top of mind for a lot of Canadians, and religious freedom is part of that. So shaming Pierre for courting the evangelicals I don’t think is going to matter because framing a religious group as a bad group to court is just going to drive that point further. Let people believe in whatever religion they want, isn’t that how Canada is to operate? Judaism, Islam etc. are not pegged as bad when Pierre courts those groups so why is this different? People don’t want to hear the media telling us that one group is bad when we can make up our own minds on what we see.
I think the critique comes from that fact evangelical groups usually place freedom limiting items (restricting abortion or reducing LGTBQ+ rights for example) at the top of their political agenda; at least that's how it played out down south.
@@conwaysmith9167 Fair point, but Islam is guilty of the similar or worse when it comes to "freedoms". My point is that the media doesn't say boo about that, they go for the Evangelicals, likely because they are a "safer" target....the underlying point here is that these are all old tactics and people are tired of hearing about it....people just do care and they can smell the politicking....just leave people alone at the end of the day....people are so tired of being told what to do and what to think.
scott trudeau is so negative
You can visit Gurdwaras, Temples, Mosques, Synagogues - no prob. The one and only place you must *not* visit : Evangelical Churches, because that would be Intolerant, American-Styyyle Dog Whistling
Please tell me others have "don't blame me" stuck in their head now and that I'm not the only crossover between politics and being a swiftie
Love this pod. I learn lots.
Nice to see you guys relaxing. Great show. David-Mute Button:)
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We all know someone who kept their job because they were the son of a Preacher Man.or their DAD owned the shop
First in with the thumbs up tonight....was anxiously awaiting this weeks episode.
I agree about spending millions on advertising turn me off especially if it attacks the other party regardless of party , telling the truth with realistic possible solutions, because that's all they are , possible nothing is for sure in life . There should be no negativity. only positivity by all parties. cooperation and elections should be on the MP or MLA not this team or that team. This isn't a sporting event, should be a team of like minded people to serve everyone in the country collectively not such polarizing ideas that goes for everyone needing to accept the diversity in our country. Providing with aleast enough to live on, would cut out lots of social issues, and those who want more, are free to do so . Helsinki Finland had a recent documentry was very enlightening interesting how some countries are run fairness for all.
that this panel just lets Jordan blather on with her radical trans garbage completely unchallenged is a definite weak point of the pod.
And her nonsense on what happened in France.
She’s a typical NDP wokester. What do you expect.
Cory… pull back… stop trying to dominate every discussion and talking over everyone. Curious how this “evangelical” topic was chosen especially when Garneau’s book came out and Toronto media have buried it??
Yeah lets make even more room and time for the progressive voices. Everyone knows Canadian media lacks progressive voices...🙄
@@Tomyum19you consider this media?
@@kqh123 Well what is it if not a medium of communication?
@@Tomyum19 well yes, sorry, it is a form of media. But do you consider it part of "Canadian Media"? "Canadian Media" typically means mainstream media.
@@kqh123 Says who? You? If not Canadian media, what is it? South African media? And if Canadian media does indeed mean mainstream media, then what is it? Non-mainstream Canadian media?
Trudope and the RSeeMP need to pay the price for what they did to the convoy and Canada with forcing that poizon on people. The should join papa Trudope