Final Fantasy VII Remake (STORY REVIEW) - Clemps
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At long last, the story section of my Final Fantasy VII Remake review is here! Please enjoy as I dive into likes, dislikes and things which made me drool over my controller.
CREDITS:
RichaadEB AKA / richaadeb who sung the amazing Aggretsuko song which accompanied the Aggreevesuko joke! Here is a link to the song itself - • Aggretsuko Theme
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My Discord for listening to me vent about editing issues.
MUSIC:
Good Grief - Yuyushiki
Nine Wood Hills - World of Final Fantasy
Love Letter, Epic War! - Final Fantasy IX
Moonlight Wandering - Crisis Core
Tifa’s Theme - Final Fantasy VII
Halloween Town - Kingdom Hearts
Halloween Town (Battle) - Kingdom Hearts 2
The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel - Final Fantasy IX
Iifa Tree - Final Fantasy IX
Dogsong - Undertale
Those Chosen by the Planet - Final Fantasy VII Remake
ShinRa Company - Final Fantasy VII
ShinRa HQ Lobby - Final Fantasy VII Remake
Rufus’ Welcoming Ceremony - Final Fantasy VII
The First Layer - Made in Abyss
Abzu Aps Phase 2 - Final Fantasy VII Remake
City of the Ancients - Final Fantasy VII Remake
Under the Apple Tree - Crisis Core
AndyP, Fishy feat. Dan Bryant - Vamo alla Django (Vamo alla Flamenco)
#FinalFantasyVIIRemake #FinalFantasy7Remake #Sponsored - ตลก
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As reggie put it "my body is ready" for this review
Once I figured out what the whispers "were" I loved them too.
I never clicked so fast in my life thank you very much.
I dont fucking care where this goes lol i loved every fucking minute of this game. Ive consumed everything from FF7 except the novels and your guilty pleasure lol. Fear of the unknown is natural but I've never been one to fear that. I love you man stay safe.
Now that you are done with your Review and it won't influence your opinion.
I wonder if you saw GigaBoots Gamer Premonition video, it's them making predictions about FF7 6 months before it comes out and it's scary accurate th-cam.com/video/OscEa1ty-EM/w-d-xo.html.
There is also their Review of the game with tvariety of reactions to the end product th-cam.com/video/cUh31pdsm2s/w-d-xo.html
square is so dang good at realistic animation, all those little facial expressions are an amazing technical achievement
They've always been at the forefront of character animation and expression.
Don't forget those cats. Better than the Cats movie, i daresay
If you haven't already, i would like to recommend you watch the making of remake. They share neat details of how they use AI for facial expressions and environmental sounds.
I think it was Maximillian Dood who said this, but one major thing Remake does right is the eye movements. When someone is looking at something, their eyes don't just stay in place. There's very small, subtle movements to them, and Remake does that. It makes the characters feel more ALIVE and REAL, because their eyes are actually acting like real eyes.
@@ajimajiPH 100% better than that nightmare-inducing shitshow
So wait. Sephiroth kills the President, leaving the murder weapon in his back. So did he have 2 swords, or was there is an off-screen moment where he's like "Ah Shit, I forgot my sword!" And sheepishly goes back to Shinra Inc to reclaim it?
He's done this several times throughout the compilation, in Advent Children the sword literally just materializes in his hand from thin air. I'd heard fan theories that after falling into the lifestream the Masamune was transformed into a spiritual weapon that's bound to Sephiroth's will allowing him to summon it freely.
Its just JENOVA carrying it around. The real sephiroth body would have been with the sword, and the sword is not with the body when you find it in the originap game
@@AlteredNova04 Its a key blade.
In the original, you don't meet Sephiroth until halfway through disc 2. The one you follow for half of the game is actually Jenova recreating Sephiroth's body. It's why he can fly and go through floors and walls. It isn't a stretch to say that the Masamune that kills President Shinra is just an extension of that and isn't the real sword.
If we're going by Dissidia logic he used the 35 CP weapon to stab Shinra and then he changed to his 15CP weapon. Or something along those lines. :p
God I'm so glad i gave you those gackt prints at mag LMAO
Fun fact: if you fail to clear out the train in the time limit during the 2nd reactor run Tifa will jump out on her own since Cloud doesn't reach her in time. The result is not getting those affinity points for Tifa's scene later in the game
So that's how I get different cutscenes
@@CHEESEPUFF_7 there's a bunch of stuff that changes it. Another is not doing all the quests when you're alone with Tifa or Aerith. You can end up with Tifa, Aerith or Barret and all 3 are pretty good scenes
@@MidgarMerc I had been trying, but couldn't figure out what else to do differently
@@CHEESEPUFF_7 another key part is after Don Corneo throws you in the sewer you can choose who to wake up first. That also affects affection
@@MidgarMerc it gets better. There are no more affection points after this moment, and the total possible amount before this point is the same.
The sewer is the tiebreaker point
That "Smash reveal" joke with Sephiroth at 23:18 aged well, lol
That Sephiroth Smash announcment joke... Oh my how naive we were...
My obvious bias aside (thanks again for letting me do a little voice cameo!) these FF7 videos may very well be my new favorites on your channel. I know these longer videos are a lot harder/more time consuming to make, but hot DAMN. Great job, seriously. I'm especially intrigued by the idea of Hojo being the final boss--I hadn't thought about it before, but that'd actually be pretty lit.
Also, Aggrevesuko is GOLD.
indeed that was great
You.. you.. you utensil musician!
Was the way you read the quote just you being yourself, or were you trying to make Kitase sound like you think he should sound? Either way, it made me grin. ;D
He said that Sephiroth was smash worthy and funny enough he gets in the game
"Got your beans, Cloud" was a missed opportunity to say "Shall I give you dis pear?"
“Get off the stage!!!”
Zack: Wait... was that all of them?
Me: Look how they avoided massacring my boy!
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
@@matthewleisure6710 like most of the last act, we dont fucking know
What a dumb kind of question is this ???! Zacki boy over here survive is the next best thing since the announcement of the ff7r . He’s the natural all real fans og ff7 hero , Cloud represent
We get a new game , or a new side plot in part 2,3 with Zack as main , amen
Stazz4rr 1) there are no dumb questions. 2) I meant that some fans probably won’t like it if SquareEnix changes the story of the original game that drastically, while others would be excited to see the brand new take on the world of FF7. So yeah, some people would definitely had preferred that Zack died.
I wouldn't be surprised if the video is just 54 minutes of clemps sweating over tifa lol
Lets be honest, WHO wouldnt sweat over tifa?
HAHA Bamboozle : It's 20 of sweatinng over tifa and 20 over Sephiroth !
So much sweat, How many more people have to die for showers?
@@johans3164 being honest here, i sweat more over Barret.
Aerith in the red dress... Ooooooffff fuck me 🤤
God how I missed the original "Sephiroth in the Shinra Building" part.
Really wish they hadn't changed it :/
I mean, you should have gone in expecting it to change just looking at the ratings board grade on the box cover. Those are the casualties that come with higher definition graphics to any game not outright themed around gore.
That scene is one of the best video game experiences of all time
@@settingittowumbo1953 Absolutely!
I feel like the remake was a Saturday morning kid cartoon version
I like how Sephiroth went from jaws (og FF7) to sharknado (FF7R).
Agree with Hojo being the final villain. Technically speaking he's always been the man behind the curtain
@@Killer_Kris7 I've always seen Sephiroth as a puppet and Genova as a boring force of nature while Hojo was the true villain.
Still hope they let Jenova actually become the main Villain seeing how everything is ultimately tied to her, while Hojo just got a mad fetish for science and Sephiroth just wishing to fulfil her wishes of eating the world.
Hojo was always the failed scientist though. Everything successful about him in the original was *purely* stolen from professor gast or just blatantly jenova. He was pathetic. He set the events in motion, but it was in spite of being a pathetic loser. I think the remake understands that and I absolutely love how disgusting he is, if a villain change will happen he’ll probably still be the weasel behind the big bad, but he could never *be* the big bad.
I mean looking at the Lovecraftian horror that is Hojo’s corrupted Jenova form in the OG FF7. That in the unreal engine running on the ps5 soaked in realism... that is going to become some nightmare material for sure. Perfect endboss material
I completely agree that keeping Sephiroth hidden would have been more impactful, even knowing that he's coming.
I think they did it to make fans suspicious and make them consider its going to be a semi-sequel.
@@chrisdaughen5257 I didn't want this remake to be a sequel. I just wanted it to be a remake like RE2 with update graphics and gameplay following the same story and now I don't even know if the future parts will follow the story like they should've. Goddamn Nomura fucking up the story once again
Mr Crazy786 Playing devils advocate here but, if you want the original story... you can just, y’know... play the original?
@@Sam-sn8oy graphics kills my eyes...
@@Sam-sn8oy Ok so remakes should never exist then is what you’re saying. Because why update a game that is outdated in few ways for a modern time?
One thing I really love about the remake is that it does put the characters personalities back in the public mindset, Cloud can be a goofball who was trying to act cool again rather than being a weird stoic loner who's entire team dresses in black leather.
Plus there's a veritable cornucopia of Tifa porn on the internet now that she's back in the public eye.
To be fair everytime clouds character is depressed and stoic, its intentional. Hence why hes pretty chill in cc
@@MrInuhanyou123 its not realistic even more when you consider that every ff character in dissidia is take from during their games... exept ff7 characters... tgey are all weird unrealistic and they didnt fell like the characters at all
Fuck sad cloud and fuck the sad boy trope
Clemps talkin bout story with the depth we all know and respect.
Me goin, "He got Pat to do a soundbyte."
Right? I'm surprised he actually got Pat to do it, lol.
I mean they're friends and its not pat's first time VA'ing, but I feel like its just one of those niche treats you'd never expect to get. Like any love for FF9, or 3D era Mortal Kombat characters. You know, the underrated stuff.
Kinda makes me wish he would do more cameo bits because his line deliveries are genuinely funny.
In the famous words of phillip j fry
"I'm scare-roused"
Oh God that Pat bit had me dying
Which bit?
@@JoeNeutrino The radio one towards the beginning, with Tifa
@@radpunk5144
Jessie* 5:09
I could listen to Clemps talk about anything forever.
It's literally therapeutic
It’s been a long time since I’ve laughed so hard about a joke in a TH-cam video. Congrats for the Reeves & Aggretsuko crossover, man
Nice Cain icon
"Midgar Zolem... With a Gun!"
I legit did a spit-take on that joke.
Same
So good
Never saw it coming.
I was playing p5r while watching so that was some A+ timing
I mean, the snakes with revolver heads are a thing in FF X-2
Very much agree on the Jaws stuff. Cinematic and narrative "tricks" work not just the first time, they work by themselves. Good movies still work after you've watched them once, after the surprise is gone, in the same way we stil feel tense for characters in a story even when there's no way they're going to lose at the end. Think any Disney movie, of course Cinderella will end up with the prince, but you're still worried about her!
The good part isn't that you didn't expect it, the good part is how tension is built.
The most crucial piece of information from the dev interviews is that Nomura can still pull off the Kpop boyband mopcut.
Bless this tiered, silly, salty man
Yeah i am amazed how incredible the cats were in this game. They look like whoever was in charge of their facial and body animation during the cutscenes really was a cat fan.
It's also important to keep in mind that the guys in charge of the remake are pretty much responsible for most of the Compilation as you know it. I don't know if it's "research" as much as it is "i made that"
I hope they do Cosmo Canyon justice made me cry as a wee lad and still did last year.
Man that's the truth right there!
I hope for a sad flashback about Nanaki's past and I hope they call Red XIII after that sequence Nanaki.
Wolfstarzan was no
"a wee lad" did you watch Final Fantasy 7: Machinabridged by Teamfourstar?
check episode 10 the 1st minute :p
Why does Xehanort call him self sephiroth in this game?
And why is Yozora one of Don Corneo's men?
It's just another re-arrangement of the same letters. Just don't think about it too hard.
@@thomasgeppi6762 Wait a minute...
Sephiroth
Sephiroht
Sephiorht
Sephionrt
Seahinort
Xehanort
Good god! You've cracked the code!
When I got to the part with Zack I was just like "no... No no no no don't give me this hope...." When I played crisis core as a kid I fought for three and a half hours in the final stand hoping for basically that exact ending, so I was pretty happy (In actual tears) when I saw my boy walking into Midgar after so long.
Also I too am very frightened and aroused. Without fates guidance there are so many more ways things could go horribly wrong.
Clemps , your comments about Sephiroth directly mirror what the master of suspense, Alfred Hitchcock had to say about suspense in general. To quote Hitchcock's own hypothetical story situation:
"We are now having a very innocent little chat. Let’s suppose that there is a bomb underneath this table between us. Nothing happens, and then all of a sudden, “Boom!” There is an explosion. The public is surprised, but prior to this surprise, it has seen an absolutely ordinary scene, of no special consequence. Now, let us take a suspense situation. The bomb is underneath the table and the public knows it, probably because they have seen the anarchist place it there. The public is aware the bomb is going to explode at one o’clock and there is a clock in the decor. The public can see that it is a quarter to one. In these conditions, the same innocuous conversation becomes fascinating because the public is participating in the scene. The audience is longing to warn the characters on the screen: 'You shouldn’t be talking about such trivial matters. There is a bomb beneath you and it is about to explode!'"
The best suspense for audiences comes about when the audience knows things the characters do not. The audience knowing everything about Sephiroth is no excuse to just throw the suspense in the trash. In fact, that just demands the storytellers be even more miserly with Sephiroth's appearances. I understand that because FFVII Remake isn't just one game, that they HAD to show him at least once, but it should have never been more than that.
I didn't think it needed repeating but apparently it does: Writing your story with people in mind who already know everything about your story is a terrible idea. You can easily see it in the reaction to this game. The people who know the story are talking about all the gotcha moments, and all the story line divergences, and the people who don't have absolutely no fucking idea what the former group is even talking about, and who only know that these story points don't really make any sense from an outsider perspective.
The almost universal newcomer reaction to seeing Sephiroth the first time in the Remake was "who is this, and why should I care?". That's not a good reaction.
This game is a sequel, who gives a shit about how newcomers react?
It's a weird mix. Make it so new players miss a TON of meaning. But also change enough that old players get annoyed because they just wanted the old game again.
Im gonna be real here, NOBODY that is going into FF7R wont at least know who Sephiroth is. EVERYONE knows who Sephiroth is
@@cazza710 after smash that became even more true, i can admit i would love a reaction like old sephi but thats pretty much impossible for old fans no matter how much they want it because as long as you know ff7 you know sephiroth has to show up at some point, new fans shouldnt have to worry but at this point if you dont know ff7 you probably still know sephiroth from simply being on the internet
on Aerith's friendly sassiness, i've recently played the original with a fanmade retranslation patch and gotta say, she was indeed like that in the original, but the official translation lost a lot of that
i recommend anyone try out the fantranslation
Insanely well done video, my man. I was completely enthralled for the whole runtime.
I kept checking the video length and being absolutely relieved to see a good chunk more left. It was so fun, insightful, and funny (aggreevesuko was the hardest I've laughed in a while), and mirrored a lot of the opinions I also have about the ending. Thanks so much for an excellent video!!
Them cutting off the maniacal laughter killed me.
Honestly, a changed FF7 I'm fine with,I just hate the metaphysical fate elements. It's not like Fate was even a theme or implied to be a factor in the original story or ANY of it's branching stories.
What's more, it holds the original story up as almost messiah-esc, an all important story that MUST happen or all is wrong with the universe. This is also really at odds with the fact that it retroactively ruins the motivations for the characters initially. Suddenly now it's hard to believe that the characters are where they are because of their choices and determination, but instead because an arbitrary force had been pushing them towards that goal. Bare in mind "Making your choices and not backing out" WAS a theme in the original game, with the phrase "There ain't no getting off this train" often thrown around whenever the characters needed motivation to keep going on the path they choose.
I really hope aren't meant to represent fans, since it's also a huge middle finger to fans that actually saved SE, since the original FF7 was a last ditch effort to stop the company going under back when it was Squaresoft. I can't think of a single good reason to include them if that was the case.
You know what FF story *was* themed around fate and time lines and time travel though? FF13. And you know what else? Kingdom Hearts.
Yes, this remake is highly self-indulgent and meta. Which is perfectly in character for Nomura at least. The last game he directed was full of very specific meta references, not subtle in the slightest.
@@vindifference Nomura needs someone to slap his hands away when he gets too indulgent
I'll always wonder what a recreation of the entire original story would look like in the remake engine.
Yeah and to think we were this close...
It would be boring you would play the game and put it down. Because it would be a 1 for 1
demon king45 Wrong
@@demonking-zm3rs not if they expand on things like they did early-game
@@demonking-zm3rs speak for yourself. I enjoyed the remake of resident evil on GC and it had the same story with new elements without changing the core.
I liked the "grounded" and "down to earth" story that FFVIIR told vs the meta / destiny / multy parallel universe stuff. So the disparity between fan reactions can be brought down to that. They can tell the most interesting meta wankery imaginable. It does not matter. There will always be people (like me) that just want a good, straightforward story.
that's my views on this as well. I haven't seen many people be too fond of the alternative timelines and destiny bs that wasn't present in the original. Kinda ruins the atmosphere and the troubles they went through supposedly in the original
@@mrcrazy7865 I think that fighting destiny and alternative times are fine...just no to introduce it so early. Beating the Fate in the middle of Chrono Cross' disc one would be really stupid.
Although I think that this whole meta plot could have been dropped for this entry in particular (would have made more sense for FF8) and the developers could have just give you choices through the parts. You want the original ending? Do a, b and c. You want to save Aerith? Do x, y and z. The only reason I can see why someone would go so meta is to create controversy and attention, both of which feel entirely unnecessary given the reception of the original game.
@@illusionofquality979 Nomura sure does love his controversy and attention.. and zippers. And belts. And buttons. And plaid.
@@illusionofquality979 If they delayed revealing that the plot of the Remake would be different to the original then people would just whine when the next game came out because they wanted it to remain totally faithful.
In fact, I was incredibly impressed at how restrained the meta elements were, only playing a big part in the ending, which works well as a climactic reveal that there is a reason for the plot changes beyond just straight up retcons, and as a teaser for new possibilities in future games.
Giving the player choices is a bad idea, and just confuses the story, especially when the story continues and one of those choices will simply be disregarded as not canon.
Frankly most of the people who really don't like what they're doing with FF7R wouldn't be happy with anything but the original game, untouched. But there's nothing stopping them playing the original and just ignoring everything else.
FF fans are notoriously terrible for hating on new games simply because they aren't exactly what they'd imagined them to be, rather than judging those games on their own merits and not comparing it to some imaginary ideal that's different for everyone.
Exactly, I liked that the original FF7 knew it's limits and boundaries and just wanted to tell a good story! It had it's twists and mysteries but they felt earned and were understandable. My only hope is that the next entry has less of the timey wifey multi-verse babble.
One thing I'll always love about the Sephiroth fight is that
Every time Cloud's sword clashes with Sephiroth's, it sounds hollow. It sounds like an empty plastic baton smacking pure steel. It goes to show just how above them Sephiroth REALLY is.
Yes, Church of Tifa welcomes all newcomers.
There was no hope for me to be scared of Seph anymore. Having seen him fight with Cloud for years over and over, and having beaten his ass as every other FF protagonist, as well as a 14 year old boy with a key, I really can't be creeped. What I do enjoy about him is that he's funny. Every time he shows up it's like a gag. He, like everyone else, is thirsty for Cloud. Everywhere Cloud goes Sephiroth is there smiling warmly, and ever since Cloud smacked his sword on the door frame I can't not see these moments as comedic relief.
My issue with having Seph as a final boss is more on behalf of newcomers to the FFVII story, but let's be honest, the game clearly isn't for them at all. This isn't a stand-alone story. The fact that you fight a final boss who we honestly don't have much reason to dislike is only acceptable once you know the og plot. As a newcomer, the only bad thing you *heard* that Sephiroth did is destroy Cloud's town and loved ones, but without being there and having only heard about this in a mental hallucination it doesn't hold much weight. The only other thing the audience could be mad about is his attempt at killing Barret, but since that was random, in response to Barret charging at him, and didn't actually come to pass, it's kinda whatever. Beyond that, Sephiroth's just been a bro. Talks mad shit sometimes, but doesn't really do much to be concerned about. He wanted to give us a hug, and killed President Shinra for us; the ACTUAL hate-able villain of the game. When Aerith talked smack at him I was like " *gasp* don't you talk to him like that!" I love our new best friend Seph. Now give me a Hojo x Jenova final boss, and then we'll talk.
Kevin Iz I’m a newcomer and I thought the game was for me, I had a really good time with it :l
I have since learned a lot about how Sephiroth was hidden in the shadows for a long time in the original game. While I think that’s a great method to heighten the fear of your antagonist, since I don’t have precious memories of experiencing such a game, I don’t “miss” it and liked Sephiroth just fine. The while point of him was that he made Cloud desperately afraid and he would literally whimper in fear and Sephiroth just mocks him for it. I’m looking forward to the game showing me more about how and why he’s so scary to Cloud. Kingdom Hearts tomfoolery nonwithstanding.
@@VAB419
Let's be honest, new comers are way more confused about what's going on in the story than people who know the original title and media surrounding it.
And while there are multiple ways to achieve suspense, some ways are better than others. Anyone can tell you that Sephiroth was far more intimidating and mysterious in the first disc of the original.
Being worried of everyone being alive this time is totally justified, since they brought everyone in KH3 back from the dead just cuz they could.
I mean, can't people die these days and STAY dead!?! It gets cheaper and cheaper each time it happens.
AT7outof10 Exactly! And personally I'm not that huge on how this might end up being like a fix-it fanfic so everyone will live.
But another thing that concerns me is if they go too hard on subverting expectations. That they'll put lots of fake out deaths or do something like kill off other party members instead of just Aerith.
I mean, the original ff7 plot involved everyone except for Cloud and two characters of your choosing dying permanently up at a certain point.
Nomura apparently said no to that concept since Aerith's death was enough of an emotional rollercoaster.
So he could..... just fucking kill off half of the protagonists permanently and REALLY fuck with us. Since that was the "ORIGINAL" story plot before the original was even released.
@Grima the Fell Dragon Bigg is the only confirmed survivor. Wedge & Jessie die. Zack die in ff7r timeline. So, if Aerith does survive, it is only 2 character.
@AT7outof10 It was set up since Dream Drop Distance's opening cinematic, I don't see how anyone could pretend to be shocked or outraged that everyone actually came back years later in KH3.
people don't really die in kh though
I find it crazy that they think "everyone knows Sephiroth" when its a game that came out in 1997 and gaming as a medium has more than tripled its audience since. This was a LOT of peoples first experience with Final Fantasy 7.
Like sure most people have seen an artwork of him and know his name but they have no idea what he's about or why anyone cares other than being a handsome bishie boy. And I feel the remake just kind of screwed up on this hard.
Technically, he doesn't appear this early in the original, maybe that ruins the twist that he's the villain later? I'm fine with how he's handled here.
Agreed. They screwed it up.
Agreed. How Sephiroth was handled in FFVIIR just made him a complete joke, and I feel sorry for all those whose first experience with FFVII was this. I hate this belief of "everyone knows Sephiroth" because of not just the complete ignorance, but it very clearly translates to "we don't want to try." And that shows HARD the more plot relevant the new story content is.
@@Revealingstorm. No they did not since this game is a sequel not a remake.... it is Sephiroth REMAKING the story
@@Darji8114 never said I didn't understand what they were trying to do. They just failed to do it. All the none new stuff is excellent in the game, and everything new feels shoehorned in and pointless.
Seeing a new upload from Clemps at this time feels like Christmas coming early! Thank you so much for your videos and stay safe!
Weird how well Made in Abyss' 1st Layer goes with the image of sephiroth floating down from the sky.
I agree with your view on Sephiroth, Clemps; I think Sephiroth's effect would be more impactful with how Cloud reacts to Sephiroth's voice in his head. Showing how easily he can break Cloud with his voice. How the sight of Sephiroth drives him mad.
Honestly, I completely agree with your points of Sephiroth’s over saturation. But for me personally, when Cloud first ran into him after the Bombing Mission. How he slowly looks up at the towering monster in front of him... The sheer SIZE of him intimidated me.
Just...in aw at the size of this lad
That was amazing! Nice to see the podcast guests contributing a little extra in your video. Extra props for the Asobi Asobase footage being used.
Continuity Ghosts™
Oh, THAT'S an excellent solution to the Sephi Problem. I was so sad that he had no mystery at all.
will you still be satisfied when they inevitably kill off Sephiroth in some sacrifice scene?
Anti-Nihilist and how do you know that is what will happen.
@@kyzersoze8408 because that happens in basically every japanese(or even really american) story in which a villain who killed tons of people gets redeemed.
the writers can't think of a way to make them repent while still alive so they give him an ending that no one will be too annoyed about.
Anti-Nihilist they won’t try to redeem sephiroth. They’ve had years to do that.
Have to wonder if the oversaturation of Sephiroth was intentional. With the story changing in the ways it has already, and how enigmatic the one at the end is, it kind of makes me wonder if Sephiroth is going to be a more active character in the story. The enigma's still there, but instead of the fear of 'Who is Sephiroth?' we have the apprehensive curiosity of 'What is Sephiroth doing?'
Amazing stuff! You walked the line perfectly between the "Love it" and "Hate it" direction-wise camps explaining the fears of both sides.
The note about a remake having obligatory parts akin to the Disney worlds of KH really made me appreciate the amount of work that is going into these game. they truly feel like love letters to the compendium with the "Remake" concept allowing them to use stuff that really worked and drop the rest. Fellow Dirge guilter here too haha!
So I was just finishing up watching your reviews for the Kingdom Hearts games. Glad to see this up!
Also, Biggs is daddy AF
I felt exactly the same about Zack's survival, torn. Ultimately, the fangirl in me prevails, though. MORE ZACK!
New Theory: Cloud dies and new timeline Zack shows up and takes over as party leader
I’ve watched quite a few reviews of this game, yours is easily my favorite. You just gained yourself a subscriber
I really loved the remake. I’m very excited to see where they’ll take the storyline. This was also a fun analysis/review, great job Clemps.
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"I turned myself into a computer Vincent! A computer!
IM COMPUTER HOJO"
Barret: n' it was jus' the funniest @#*! thing I ever saw, ya gotta see it!
Vincent: And?
Hojo: And? What more do you want tagged onto this? "I turned myself into a computer and Sector 7 was an inside job?"
Vincent: Was it?
Hojo: Who cares, Vincent? Shinra commits atrocities every day! Here's something that never happened before! I'm a computer! I'm COMPUTER HOJOOOO!!!
The new Sephiroth presence hit me much differently. I think they actually did pull off the "Jaws" effect by having his final form lyrics whispered into the intro as we see Aerith in similar yet different framing/direction from the original intro. It's both reminiscent of a tragedy you know all too well yet confusing in the way it signifies new unknowns.
The AggReevesuko bit made my laugh out loud! Great video as always.
This is an awesome treat for a Saturday night! Thanks!!
The 7 seconds part is alluding to the seven seconds before meteor it is said in the game chapter description. Maybe you have said and I missed it but just a clarification for people in the comments. Also great video!
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You might joke, but I could totally see Square Enix having a final battle in this multi-part series where Advent Children Cloud (Timeline 1), Remake Cloud (Timeline 2), and a powered up Zack (Timeline 3) all end up in the same weird portal space we saw near the end of this game for a final battle against multiple forms of Sephiroth, which somehow also all exist at the same time as well.
The fan-service opportunity just seems too tantalizing to pass up.
Also, as an aside, I think minimizing the responsibility Avalanche had in the initial bombing run was a narrative misstep that invites both character and story-based plot holes.
This is my biggest fear, where the plot of FF7R just becomes Kingdom Hearts 3. That said, I'd still play it because the gameplay is super fun (and I'd at least be able to say "fuck it- lets see how wacky the story gets").
Imagine the heart break if you had to watch them go back to the time they left from. Both Clouds watching on knowing Zack will have to go back to his death in order to make sure time is not longer broken. Seeing them both react diffrently due to the amount of time they have had to get over his death would be the cherry on top.
Sirine_Eques Assuming the three timelines persist, wouldn’t he simply be going back to a reality where he survived? (Mako related life-shortening notwithstanding)
Man I can only imagine how look it took you to put up a behemoth of this quality, thanks Clemps!!!
if it's of any comfort, roche has been confirmed by hamaguchi to appear in future parts of the game!
that being said, i absolutely LOVE every single one of your review videos, clemps...and THIS is no different. really interesting to see your takes from start to finish. keep up the fantastic job as always
I’m kinda pumped for the future events of the series because I can see them changing things in MAJOR WAYS that still align with the original game, but slowly start to break things off.
One theory I have about the future that doesn’t seem to be talked about yet is that in the next game instead of Wutai just being a place you visit that didn’t really have any significance other than on the past, I think Rufus and Heidegger are going to fucking declare WAR on Wutai. They’ve already firmly convinced citizens that Avalanche are backed by Wutai, and odds are they could TOTALLY pin the entire assassination of President Shinra on Avalanche entirely. By showing that Cloud and Co escaped the city in video recordings, I think they can claim that they fled to Wutai all Edward Snowden like. Then Shinra, claiming Wutai is holding enemies of the government, they declare the war they were hinting about in the first part of Remake. This would also explain why there’s a huge military parade and mobilization at Junon, they’re mobilizing for war. It could also make for an interesting tie in to Yuffie, since her nation is under siege, and she has no choice but to help the group in order to try and save her country. Could also really play into why Reeve joins the group, because he feels he HAS to stop Shinra from creating another war with Wutai.
The one biggest issue I always had with Shinra in the original game is that you don’t feel the broad reach of Shinra very much in the original game. Sure you’ve got places like Junon, their weird mini game invasion of Fort Condor, and their impact on the ending, but other than the Turks, you barely see the massive military that Shinra actually is. I think they could really up the stakes in the game by showing just how much Cloud and company changed things because of how much wanton death and destruction Shinra are willing to go through just to prove a fucking point. Plus, Shinra is a megalomaniacal corporation and you best BELIEVE they would benefit from a war economy. They have mechs and soldiers and super soldiers all lined up and no war to fight, they would attack Wutai in a MILLISECOND if it meant more money in their pockets. I also think this could be a great story arch for the entire of the second part, and would make for a good way to bridge the part of the game that is arguably one of the more uneventful (other than the flashback in Kalm... guess that’s important too)
In the end, I am PUMPED for what this series has in store, and I will never regret picking this remake up.
Loved the vid Clemps!
What I don't love are the people who keep saying they didn't buy the remake looking for the exact same game as the original to defend it. That they'd be bored if they played that version of the remake and that's understandable in a way. But unless you spoiled yourself on how it's different, many people bought this looking for a game with the same FFVII experience/feel but with better graphics, expanded elements and characters, and new gameplay. It's like how people want the RE remakes to be faithful and change not too much with the exception of combat.
And I dunno how to feel about this whole fan theories and speculation either. If you're not that big into that sort of stuff like I am, the remake comes across as an eye roll or frustrating imo. And like I get what they're doing. They're keeping fans guessing what may be in store in the future to reignite new interest. But I'm worried that since everyone has a potential grim reaper looking over their shoulders without destiny swatting him away like ya said, the writers will rely on fake out deaths or do something like say kill off Tifa instead of Aerith just to divert expectations from the original.
HOW DO THESE CATS LOOK SO GOOD (also very poggers video clemps. You're one of the few people who can make super long videos wich are still interesting and funny after 40 minutes)
Thank you for the Gackt cameo!! My fandom of Kamui Gakuto shaped my teen years into my early 20's. Lol XD
Avalanche was always a huge organization.
It was implied in the OG and it was further shown in Before Crisis, which by the way the Avalanche HQ have the exact same outfits in as in the Remake.
I have a feeling that the Sephiroth you actually fight is the whispers themselves, giving you the finality of their test of your capabilities by taking the form of the ultimate threat, instead of it being him controlling them. This seems to be implied by the pre-fight cutscene, where you actually see the whispers coalescing before Sephiroth appears, instead of them gathering to him. The one afterwards is definitely something different, though.
I definitely agree with this, and it's a theory I don't see anywhere currently. The Shinra building Sephiroth is just reunion clones coming to nab Jenova's body, and I think Destiny's Crossroads Sephiroth is the Whispers trying to throw everything they can at you to stop you. First, it's the Harbinger, then some strong foes from the future, then Whisper Bahamut, and then finally, here's Whisper Sephiroth.
Seven seconds Sephiroth is likely a meeting with "real" Sephiroth, a mind-to-mind meeting with his consciousness trapped in North Crater, because everything that is Sephiroth is connected by Sephiroth's will and consciousness, even if it's a whisper or a memory.
The big issue that needs to be resolved, though (at least for me), is what's causing destiny to go off the rails, if it's not the reunion clones. I think the intro to the game with the bird is symbolism for Aerith's soul emerging from the lifestream and jumping into her current body to give her some serious spoilers right at the start, which would make it Aerith the whispers have come for in the first place, erasing her memories one by one, as she says in the Shinra building.
Either way, can't wait for part two! ^_^
Love this honest retrospective! Keep this good shit up lad!
That "on your left" edit is actual pure gold I almost died from choking on my chewing gum
13:34 I also would have accepted Korg from Thor Ragnarok's "PISS OFF, GHOST!"
So, I went and replayed the final chapter in Japanese. The party's reaction described at 39:16 is not them thinking that Red running with his children is a bad thing, but rather, apparently, their thinking that "throwing away the potential future" in which Red runs with his children might be a bad thing -- the reaction is explicitly to Red's statement that it is "我々が捨てようとしている風景だ" -- Google Translate's representation of that isn't bad ("The scenery we are about to throw away" -- the word "風景 (fūkei)" or "scenery" is being used in a slightly idiomatic sense). Barret's saying "What the hell did I just see?" is his confusion that he's seeing visions, not his thinking the content of the vision is bad.
Having first played the game in Japanese I will probably never know if the reaction of this video is idiosyncratic or one I would have had too, but the words on the page don't seem all that problematic. I have a great deal of sympathy for the translators of this game -- they changed a lot, and the majority of clients who pay translators in Japan would accuse them of butchering their work (because they don't understand that translating words and sentences directly will hurt the overall reception of the entire text, whereas changing them will better convey the message of the entire text), so for most J-E translators their work is hardly intuitive. (Actually, I'm partially jealous of them in that they get to convey great art that non-Japanese-speakers will appreciate, without having to worry about non-English-speakers second-guessing all of their "mistranslations" -- but I also have to imagine that creating inventive translations day after day must be a pretty intensive day job that takes a lot out of you, and if creative video game ISN'T their day job it must be a pretty drastic switch.)
BTW, sorry if this bursts anyone's bubble -- it kinda did mine -- but Aerith doesn't say "Yeah, so what? Screw him." (like at 42:35 in this video) in the Japanese. Cloud's "He's tough." is a pretty straight translation of "強いぞ", but Aerith responds "うん でも行こう", which word-for-word means "Yeah. But let's go.", and a more idiomatic but still faithful translation would be "Yeah, maybe. But let's take him down anyway!" The line -- especially the delivery, which pauses before, and emphasizes, the 行こう！ part -- conveys the character's resolve and force of will, and I can't recall being bothered by it on the first playthrough, but it definitely is not as memorable as the English.
Thanks, reviewing this helped me alleviate some worries and explain some parts of the story.
This was amazing to watch! Loved it, as someone who has been a FF7 fan ever since i played the original way back in 1997. Great content, just... Great! Have a like and a new subscriber good sir. Keep up the good work.
No matter how many times I hear their actual names, I will never be able to remember any form of address for the Advent Children villain squad other than "the Sephirettes".
Are there any MMD vídeos with them?
Yo same
40:15 Right? I mean, if Cloud can cut a train in half with his sword, what were we doing spending so much time in the Train Graveyard?
The way it’s explained is poor. They’re in a place where time doesn’t matter. They’re at the strongest. But the term singularity is only brought up once.
@@brandoa1131 You could say that when the Arbiter gave them memories of the future, they got their endgame strength. Except after the fight, they went back to normal.
Chris Daughen sorry for late response. But I think that’s going to be the play on how they are at level 1 again in part 2.
I just really reallllly hope the next parts don't disappoint me I am interested in the new meta parts for now but that can go down so fast, there was good and bad which you mentioned and I agree with so let's hope for the best from here.
Man like Clemps, from the UK, finally dropping this at 3am
Avalanche being a much larger organization isn't actually new, because it was established in Before Crisis.
And I think Barret mentioned it in Cosmo Canyon in FFVII 🤔
Calling it now, Rufus Shinra is going to be a party member in the later installments.
I'm waiting. The waiting is agony, but god the orga-- I mean the reveal of that Final Fantasy 9 review is going to be so worth it.
You are the only one I have seen that references the 3 you fight at the end as being the 3 from Advent Children has helped put my mind as ease.
23:20 This has aged tremendously well
23:19 Wow this bit aged really well.
goddamn what a very personal review, which all reviews should be. not setting up a bar or setting expectations but more on a personal level, i like this review its, well polished as well
I quite enjoyed this video, even though I may not fully agree with everything you said I can agree with the phrase cautiously optimistic. I really loved this game and how they expanded on the lore and everything. Really hope they continue to do it justice. Great job again, really do enjoy your breakdowns.
I don't know if anyone else ever thought of this, but I think that Final Fantasy 7 remake is actually a true sequel. At the end of Dierge of Cerberus Vincent defeats Omega, but I don't think he actually prevented the end but merely postponed it. Omega's job is to take all life on the planet and start over somewhere else right?
Well what if that literally is what happened? That would explain why Aerith is having visions of things that already happened, because everyone returned to the life stream and is doing the same song and dance again, and the cloaked figures are like moderators trying to make sure you follow the script.
I think the ending of DoC with Genesis picking up Weiss was him planning on time traveling. After going to the past Genesis convinces Zach, who's survived his last stand, to go with him to "save the future" from something (more of Jenova's race?), but tells him to leave Cloud and the Buster Sword behind. That way part 1 plays out the same with Cloud joining Avalanche with memory issues. They could even be the ones that saved the Avalanche Trio.
someone wrote that it's a parallele univers, but people who have a connection to the lifestream can forsee the future, like Clemps said about Aerith, but it also applies to Cloud because of his Mako overdose and to Sephy, and because he is litterally trapped in Mako, Sephy can clearly see his defeat and want to change all of this.
I agree, completely. It reminds me of 999 or Virtues Last Reward, wherein you can replay events of the game, but some characters have knowledge of the future.
Barret without his glasses is just...so goddamn heartwarming. And when he gushes about Marlene, especially with he finds her in Aeriths house, oh my lord, you wish he was your dad.
But a small theory; if you noticed, during the scenes where Cloud is 'told things' by Zack in the original FF7, that doesn't happen in 7R. He gets some minor headaches, but nothing like the original (save for Reactor 5 and his flaskback to the Nibleheim reactor). I'm not sure if they just couldn't figure out HOW to implement Zack talking to Cloud. But the scenes I'm referring to are;
-Reactor 7, before planting the bomb (minor headache)
-meeting Aerith (we clearly see it's Cloud talking to Cloud, because of the full body shot and same VA, which turns into Sephiroth)
-the playground scene where Aerith talks about Zack (once again, minor headache at the mere mention of Zacks name)
Now, why even include the scene of Aerith saying Zacks name and Cloud responding by getting a migrane if it didn't mean anything? Aside from it being a nod to the events that happened between Zack and Cloud under Hojo; they could have just went straight into the chocobo carriage carrying Tifa. There IS the new scene of Hojo telling Cloud he wasn't in SOLDIER, but here's where my theory stands.
In this timeline, Zack didn't die. Because the Whispers were defeated and Zack somehow managed to beat the Shinra troops, he managed to take Cloud to Midgar. I'm guessing there, he leaves a nearly comatose Cloud with the Buster Sword and fucks off to GONGAGA to see his parents. Cloud fully wakes with the SOLDIER uniform and Buster Sword, and his mako addled mind assumes he was part of them. The mention of Zack by Aerith triggers something in his brain as a defense mechanism (to keep the illusion going), and Hojo nearly breaks through those defenses before the Whispers take him away.
Fate and Destiny have a funky way of playing with you, and it could be that Cloud and co. were pre-destined to destroy the Whisper Arbiter (an Arbiter of Fate, by Barrets own words), because if they didn't, Zack would have never survived and Cloud would have gotten Zacks words in his head in those specific scenes. Because you can't truly defy your own fate, no matter how hard you try.
Biggs, Wedge, Jessie, Aerith. They all still have death flags, because they are destined to die fighting to save the planet. Just this time around, fate has something else in store for all of them. Sounds wonky as fuck, but once we get the Nibleheim incident in Kalm, we'll hopefully know more. For all we know, that entire event could have played out differently?
35:31 no one explains the feelings I had at the end of this game better than you Clemps. They way you articulated the feelings of trepidation and anxiety was amazing. Thank you, you beautiful boy you.
23:18 you predicted sephiroth in smash.... you are amazing
PERSONALLY as someone who's never played FF7 I was really looking forward to seeing just a more dynamic and engaging version of the original. Pretty sure no one was asking for plot hole ghosts to "fix" anything they thought needed fixing. Maybe it'll still be really fun for me but it's very scary thinking about spending that much money on these games and the story ending up being KH levels of cringe.
Glad to see your thoughts! Holding my breath until we see how long the wild ride lasts...
I laughed for a solid 3 mins at the Aggrevesuko part.
Made my evening, LOL
Other than that, great video overall~
Been waiting for it xD
Very well made fan fiction - of fan fiction - of an original story from 20 writers that was held together with twine.
I have many, many criticisms of both versions of the game. The main criticism of 7R is how hard it is for it to stand on its own two feet (reference intended). It feels more like watching a cartoon that's trying to keep its PG rating and all the main cast alive by the finale. It's also a shame that Sephiroth, after all this time, has totally lost what little - very little - humanity and real personality he once had, and has degenerated into being a cardboard anime villain that just loves fuckin' with people and ruining character introductions with self-insertions because the scenes are famous to the audience. You really need to *not* despise the compilation material to maintain an interest in the convoluted, schlocky fan service nature of the retelling. As is the rallying cry of such things, "It knows what it is." It's good. Not as good for the time it was made as the original, certainly. But it's... good?
He barely had any character before he was more genric and cardboard in the og
甲斐 He was better because of it. The Sephiroth is an amalgamation that is wrong with modern Square story telling “cough Normura cough”.
@@TheLoneGamr Huh?
The part where Cloud and Tifa save Johnny by knocking the Shinra guards instead of killing them was so stupid. Same thing for Corneo's goons. They constantly imply your characters never kill anyone and it's beyond ridiculous considering how powerful they are.
And when Cloud does imply he wants to kill someone (Johnny and Reno) it's so weird as he's ready to let soldiers live but Johnny's a blabbermouth? Well guess I'll "stop" using the blunt side of my sword for ya pal. I know it's meant to display how Cloud believes Soldier operators behave and he's clearly not as experienced as he knows/believes, but the game would have been better had it kept a mature approach and didn't care about keeping a teen rating. FFVII with blood and actual weight behind the deaths you cause along the way would be more "realistic" considering the stakes at play.
Are we going to get a several hours explanation of how you feel about all the FF7 expanded universe? In multiple parts?
I would be really ok with that.
As a huge fan of the compilation, one of my deepest desires for the remake sequels would be additional playable characters. Zack being alive kinda reinforced this. What if apart from the og cast, this time around we got a second team comprised of other big players like Cissnei, Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie, Roche, Johnny, among others all lead by Zack instead of Cloud. I also kinda felt like maybe, Sephiroth may actually turn or be a misunderstood bad guy.
A lot from the remake struck me as having kingdom hearts elements (which is not always a good thing). Although Nomura didn't write 7R, you can tell he had his grubby little hands all over this. And i'm worried 7R will turn out like kh3 where "everybody comes back, no one really died, and the bad guy was good all along." Knowing how popular the characters of 7 are, I'm worried they'll be too chicken to take risks.
I'm just hoping the ending doesn't derail it and turn it into what kingdom hearts became.
Luv u clemps you're a sweetie. An hour of FF7 and your dulcet tones makes me a happy stoner
I didn't even think about the possibility of a different character besides Aerith dying in a future release. That terrifies me. Great review. Keep up the great work!
I don’t mind Square blowing their load early just as long as they are good for a multiple rounds right after.