Zimbabwean Politician Saviour Kasukuwere In Conversation with Trevor Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 เม.ย. 2021
- In this 2 part episode, Zimbabwean politician and former Zimbabwean Cabinet Minister Saviour Kasukuwere sit down with Trevor. They discuss the recent events that took place in his life from his time in the cabinet, the role of the army in Zimbabwean politics and the Zanu PF succession infighting.
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I was doing my O'levels in Mt Darwin in 2008 when citizens were beaten and some killed in the name of Kasukuwere. One of my teacher was beaten and left for dead only to wake up from comma at Pari. Slogan yaiti 'unotsva neParaquat'.
God rest the souls of those that lost their lives...
Kasukuwere seems to be suffering from amnesia but we have not forgotten.
Spot on!!! That is exactly what l am thinking right now, shaa people don't know what these guys did to us! Paraquat mdara, deserved everything he is going through
Am from Mash Central myself and I wish I can add more but the wickedness of Kasukuwere and team is far too much to even try document. Kasukuwere and team Vakambotirova prone in 2008....kurohwa prone is when you are made to lie with your tummy on the ground then they use chishamhu and mashamboks to beat you from your shoulders to your feet...it was a painful time.
@@mantawaz oh very sorry u had to go thru that
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Tyson, Patrick & Jonathan Moyo deserve 6 feet under. No 2 ways about that
what hurts is the fact that these people had the chance to be in government and change things for the better but all they did is consolidate power, they all sound so innocent after being expelled
exactly they thought zimbabwe was their private property
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Thats very sad. You can say that again. they also did bad things to others
you have said it all.....thank you
Wabaya, vakarera imba a nemukaka.
It hurts so much to hear people like Kasukuwere talking about people today
no point in Trevor also bringing in discredited people, nobody wants to hear from an asshole
When politicians lose power they regain common sense and become understanding
🤣🤣🤣🤣. True
True
🤣😂🤣😂
Wandiuraya 😂😂😂
You can say that again
Come on Saviour !!! The army has always been involved you know that.
Kuita kunge asingazvizive ,2008.
He means against him 🤷🏾♂️
He deserved everything that he got ... Zimbabweans have been experiencing that for many years now .. he got a small taste of his own medicine !!!
You can hear years of political privilege in his tone.
He's totally detached from reality
Would have loved to hear more on Youth Interface rallies where H.E MNANGAGWA was reduced to a village boy whilst Tyson celebrated and where Grace got her power from
"I never thought political differences will be resolved by the use of our security forces"😂😂😂😂😂 Tsvangirai(RIP) will laugh at that
🤣😂 True.
I perceive a lot of lies about the escape, how did they leave his house, or Harare in the first place?😅😅
@@robertkugara5569 i tried replaying that part. i was thinking maybe I missed that important part but there's nothing said. they even drove to mugabes after all the gun fire
The irony of it is totally missed on his part. He conveniently forgot 2008!
It’s either delusion or careful brand management 🤦🏾♂️
Mr Kasukuwere is forgetting how opposition members were butchered since 2000. What he went through is exactly what opposition member were going through and feeling. What he is saying is a very good definition of Karma.
Vakuru vakati kurera imbwa nemukaka inofuma yokuruma. Vakarera masoja akazovapandukira
to my surprised he was tete during his time he should have to answer every single question about all the killings uyu anoziva makuva evatakashaya vasina makuwa especially Itai dzamara but y vanhu ava vachiti wese abviswa pachigaro vanotiza why
Abduction of innocent people was the main reason why he failed and people won't be stupid to bring him back to power. He will be worse than before before. He killed too many people
Ndaisaziva kti vana Tyson munotori ne ma feelings wo nekuuraya kwamaita vanhu
What a shame
Ndoo vanhu vakaba mari yese yenyika ava. Kusanyara kasukuwere. Imba yawakavaka mari yacho wakaiwana kupi.
Unbelievable, Tyson how can you say that, you didn't expect army to be used for political differences. You and ZANU used the army against MDC members all the time. Karma is real. What goes around comes around my dear. Welcome to MDC lives.
Good to see Kasukuwere in a such humble mood, very sober. What a lesson for those hold power today. Nothing lasts forever.
ED was the same when he came into power but suddenly switched back to default mode, ie the real zanu pf evil ruling. This one will do the same
we will never figure out what went wrong in our country until some of these guys are willing to be honest. The sad thing here is that he is hiding the truth from us because he has hidden the truth from himself.
Yu are very true. Its so sad that he is narrating zvinhu zviri wrong and zvisina kuitika. Vakavenga chokwadi vanhu ava
@@taonamananga2335 Brainwashed me ZANUPF zvekutora nhema kuita chokwadi. Mbavha dzevanhu ngazviurayane zvipere. These people robbed our lives. Tsek
You live by the gun, you die by the gun!!! That was a wake up call on your part Tyson, that is what every Zimbabwean goes through in their lives in this country at the hands of your former party, and at the hands of your party and Govt whilst you were actively a member therein. Now you see how the multitudes of Zimbabweans that live their country everyday feel upon leaving their own families and loved ones behind, going into the unknown world. It's good to see you as humble as you've become.
I couldn't say it better.
Don’t buy this you “ humble” tactic. People don’t change
Bullshit😊
Tyson now knows how the people felt at the hands of the army when he was in government. How evil Zanu is and has been.When you talk about your children think about the children of Itai Dzamara and other people killed by the previous regime
When the hunter becomes the hunted
What a hypocrite...... thus what happens when you mistreat others when you are a in a position of power now it’s your turn....just repent Sir Kasukuwere.
Its unfortunate minister what you went through , but except the bullets part ...this is what everyday Zimbabwean is going through, no proper place to sleep or anything to eat, long walking distance to get basic services, but nevertheless we remain kind people.
It sounds strange when they face what every Zimbabwean is facing everyday yet they killed economy when they were in power
and his favorite president like it on the opposition
These guys have no idea of the life of an ordinary Zimbabwean zvavo
It served him right after the way these ZANU people have been treating us. I’m over the moon that he got a taste of his own medicine. I’ve no sympathy whatsoever for this hypocrite, coward and political charlatan!
This ought be interesting. Always a pleasure to watch these interviews. I will be on this show before I'm 30. Watch the space @Trevor Ncube
Good luck my bro, I hope it happens for you.
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Next time trevor pliz give us a chance to fire questions itai live pliz !! I am itching to give him a piece on my mind!
On his 2 nd interview ask this C10 operative how he got the money to build such a massive home please Trevor
"Having been in politics for a long time, I never thought political differences would be resolved by the use of our security forces" What planet did this charlatan live on? does he think we are idiots? Trevor needs to be tougher with his questioning.
KKKKKK the vanquished will forever know the pain of being vanquished
kkkk akanzwa bhata
Thats how most Zimbabwean are living they're lives on daily basis because of people like you
Exactly what he felt after Mugabe was toppled is also what Mnangagwa felt. Savior is a clawn
Dambudzo had to be removed....he is evil personified
Indeed, mudya zvemahara
The freedom you felt in Mozambique is what we are yearning for in Zimbabwe. The wrong you did was to massacre innocent civilians, You created many orphans.
Quite interesting
Great questions. Politics is dirty . WE WILL ALWAYS SUFFER FROM LEGACY PROBLEMS
Kasukuwere thought Zimbabwe was his tomato tuckshop. He is now learning it the hard way. Thank God he survived to tell the story.
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Welcome back to your senses.....The real life of Zimbabweans
Its called karma. The guy wasn't naive, he was being arrogant, thought he was untouchable.
I am from Mt. Darwin & I think Kasukuwere learned great things from our Zimbabwe politics . Power needs be shared and corruption be abolished. I hope he learns from this experience
The lack of remorse in his voice and the denial of CIO led abductions is sickening.
The saddest thing about this story is that he survived the "attack."
Thats the good party that they survived....the saddest 😢 is Dambudzo is alive and allowed to grab power thru the gun 🔫 toting millitary
Thank you Mr Trevor Ncube for your interviews and your aim for a fair platform. I still dislike the likes of Tyson. Whilst I don't wish him ill or pain, I don't think he would be speaking to you if he was still a minister. He is in the diaspora but looks well. Not that can be said about alot in the diaspora caused by policies he was part of.
First time i have seen the "Stephen Sackur", side of you, very impressive interview, you asked the hard questions and key takeaway is that the man has learnt how life is on the other side.
Take a nap at 2 am 😅😅 these guys are very funny
Welcome sir.
Grt interview
People of Mozambique showed you kindness, something you failed to extend to your own fellow citizens until you were forced out. What a shame!
Lol in his time in politics he didn't think the armed forces would be used to settle differences? 😂😂 What a joker
A chilling experience.
Always be nice to people. Imagine if you met a relative of one of the people you killed.
Saviour has not suffered enough. Bob got the easy way out and died in shame. It is your turn Saviour. The whole of ZANU will get out one day and will get what they have done to Zimbabwe. We don't forget Saviour and we don't forgive.
"There should be limits " lnga munotoziva henyu ...Those days in 2008 of long and short sleeves did you think of these limits...The entire Civilians have suffered whist you enjoyed
Trevor is a masterful inquisitor
Zanu PF people are funny, they do exactly these things to ordinary Zimbabweans and when they taste their own medicine they become cry babies🙄🙄
When you were treating Tsvangirai like that it was good usataure zvekupenga
If you can imagine HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THE LOVELY ZIMBABWE BECAUSE OF THE MUGABE s BAD GOVERNANCE
Zimbabweans are economic refugees all over the world because of Mugabe rule -- gara pasi -- don't ever come back to seek a political leadership position in Zimbabwe -- ndimi makauraya
interesting.
Hearing what kasukuweri crying is just poetic justice
I just can't stop wondering. There was a hectic armed attack on this guys house but he still managed to take his whole family and get into a car and drive off to RG Mugabes house ? So these soldiers that were attacking just decided to let them go ???
I also wonder. It doesn't make sense to me. Someone is lying
Same question I have
Killing them would have been counterproductive. Scare tactics....
Wondering too🤔
Killing them wasn’t an option as they sought to be a legitimate Government after the coup d’etat
whats his take on operation Muramba Tsvina while young kids were sleeping on the Bus rank for a week.
PRAISE GOD FOR SUCCESSION PLANNING IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEMS WELL SAID, MR KASUKUWERE, IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL AND SELF-CONTROL IS A FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
ANTHILLS OF THE SAVANNAH by Chinua Achebe
"My experiences during the liberation struggle...." apo hondo yakapera munhu aine 7 years (Grade 2).
Pamwe ndini ndega ndanga ndakafa focus at that age. Zvakangooma hazvo, munhu wese weZANU mu war vet
i got that too, kkkkkk and at that age he was selling vegetables in Dzivarasekwa hahahahahahaha what a lie...... these guys takes us for fools
How they identified Tyson as a potential CIO was none other than matraits eutsinye.
Kkkkkkl
Trevor Ncube should be a bit more interrogative to some of these unclear statements like BBC Hard talk. How can trained military gunners spray bullets at a target and leave without ascertaining mission accomplished, and also have the victims walk out of the house drive around... Not making sense.
I think their mission was not to kill them but to chase them away
we want you back you will make Zimbabwe great if you don't forget
But Savour, you have been using the military against political opponents, in 2008 the military moved in to stop Morga' from taking over power, was the involvement of the military really a suprise
Kasukuwere is lying about Rashiwe. She was my cousin, we do not know what happened to her and her body was never found. This is my first time hearing that they know what happened and they caught the culprits!
This must be very painful to you and your family.
@@mutsawashe1369 Yes!
Yes he is lying about her is a shame for someone who is trying to come out cean
Urikunyepa Tyson
I like your work Trevor, but this was rather disappointing.
Trevor is undercover ZANU, you can’t trust these old fools
Totally agree with you Kevin. Trevor has let him get away with a victim story when he could have asked tougher questions.
Um glad Tyson felt what the ZANU PF victims felt in 2008. vaiva nehutsinye mdhara uyu
If only you guys had understood that politics is not about killing each other, I think we could not have witnessed what we saw in 2008 and all other years of political violence
20:14 A Zimbabwean shop owner said "I know what you're going through in your country" why would a zimbo refer to his country as someone else's country.
lies upon lies hahahahahahahaha
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Good evening to the whole world
Interesting 🤨 story
Zanu Amy has always been used to thwart any opposition, this was taste of your own medicine.
Ndiwe chikomana chema long and short sleeve -- cutting people's hand - the past shall come to count - MWARI haadhakwi -- deal with it --
Inzwaiwo nhema idzi!
This is the first public testimony of the Benz coupe
Would you have snitched on Kasukuwere and Moyo if you met them whilst on the run in Mozambique during that time?
Hell yes
Really imagine the hell Morgan went, no more words
Pure crocodile tears these guys terrorized other people's fathers and their children are now orphans, not even a single ounce of sympathy for such guys who practiced cruelty of the highest order , Mugabe is the worst person ever to happen in Zimbabwe we are suffering because of him
Power blinds, period.
He says running away was a tough journey through terrains with wild animals, does he appreciate that Zimbos have been doing that for years now? And that's because of his Zanu PF.
Your ordeal was your moment of reflection I guess!!
Let me save my data.
He got a taste of his own medicine. Let him enjoy diaspora life.
I suppose the feelings that you had was more terrifying for the hapless rural folk that wanted to vote for Tsvangirai. the carnage of wavhotera papi was more devastating for povo who did not have bullet proof vests and steel gates.
He is a witness of an international case shouldnt it commence
Ndinotengesa maSize enyu emaShirts vaKasukuwere - ekuti makagara munokwana pasina stress seizvo...
😂 😂 😂
What goes around comes around
Wow Same route in less than 30days each,, Zanu chiororo
In my circles, we grew up knowing about ‘Chinhu Chedu’ & who the anointed successor was going to be since Independence Day, at all costs. It’s unfortunate people were naive or didn’t understand how deep this Chinhu Chedu was rooted.
This is what happens when you steal public funds. It never ends well.
Of all Trevor's interviews that I've watched, I found this one difficult to watch through to the end because from the opening paragraph it was clear that RG Mugabe's government had all the planning, structure and substance of a Mickey Mouse show. With the "intelligence"' he says reached cabinet, they neither had the urgency nor mechanisms to prevent an imminent security threat to the sitting government.
Very much perplexing! Killers also fear death 😂
When these political hooligans lose power they start thinking rationally. We haven't forgotten your inhuman torture and killings your didi in Mash West.
Judgement day is still waiting for you. What you went through was just a hint that justice will one day prevail
How lies works
Tyson to Trevor : President Mugabe was going to resign on the next conference
Tyson slogan at 2017 rally : Pamberi vaMugabe kufa vachitonga
It's funny how Tyson is laying out the proper explanation on the proper succession plan when he is now watching from the terraces, things they should have done whilst still in office 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 G40 was outclasted by Lacoste and to allow Grace kurova bembera vachiombera maoko was their big mistake in the game of politics 🤕
Kasukuwere must honestly tell the nation exactly what was happening within Zanu Pf. What were the differences among the individuals at the time Emerson Mnangagwa was forced to leave the country?
Why must this guy really be given airplay?? Informative conversation yei. Mxm
My people my people. If this man is really running or president my his team help me to speak better. He needs to be articulate. All those who have taken power speak well. Good or bad all from Napoleon to Hitler, Mugabe they articulate points. Even when they are off course one my even believe them. Please assist in that regard.
23:22 ?!
Lol, from 13:35 I sense a lot of lies 😅🤣🤣. How did they drive from Harare?!☺️😅
Zvese kubva zvaatanga inhema dzega dzega. Not all the soilders were against Mugabe they were helped by the soilders to move to SA kwete manyepo ayo
Kasukuwere is still a CIO
Tyson usanyepe iwewe, you took over your parliamentary seat and and position in Zanu Pf after the death of two cadres who died the same way namely Boarder Gezi and Elliot Manyika, CIO of that time know how these two died.
Hahahaha. Tyson and Grace were firing all the people who would oppose them from the party literally using opposition to Mugabe as reason for firing them. You left them no choice and those were the consequences.