Morgan Midsummer - What an absolute MASTERPIECE

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  • @noiisserpmii
    @noiisserpmii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    The 40s speedsters will always have a spot in my heart.

  • @peterredman235
    @peterredman235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Well done Morgan you have nearly reached the level of Triumph TR2 design!

    • @MisterstereoOso
      @MisterstereoOso 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Had a TR2 in 1971 registration number TRY 123. I hate to think what that would be worth now !

    • @IVAN-bs5bq
      @IVAN-bs5bq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep ! getting there .

  • @Mattisttam
    @Mattisttam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Agreed. Probably the most gorgeous vehicle I've ever seen.

    • @whyalwaysme2522
      @whyalwaysme2522 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please! No need for exaggeration 😂

  • @PRS-dk4mz
    @PRS-dk4mz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Beautiful design, but all that old-school vibe is absolutely ruined by the BMW automatic transmission and associated gear selector.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Right? Could they not get the Supra 6 speed manual?

    • @stuchly1
      @stuchly1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jamesengland7461speaking of which, a Toyota engine with a little over 300 horses sounds like a very achievable figure and the drivetrain would be bulletproof 😂

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously...go all that way

    • @MySteaming
      @MySteaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh No!
      It's not an automatic - is it?

    • @tangosierra911
      @tangosierra911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, the ZF 8HP is arguably the best autobox on the planet, so it is a great choice.
      I am sure a different lever could have been chosen to go with the overall design of the car, but with a big engine in a light car, you would literally have to change gears every 2 seconds to keep up.
      So it is a great pairing.

  • @Mgn-1
    @Mgn-1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It’s so good looking, everything just matched, that line flow, the materials, the color… Very well orchestrated… But then we have that shifter *sigh

  • @repapeti98
    @repapeti98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    If you squint real hard at the thumbnail, it looks like a weird Ferrari Enzo/FXX with the driving compartment moved forward.

    • @lesedimpomane_sa929
      @lesedimpomane_sa929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Now I can't unsee it😭😭😭

    • @wyeth1023
      @wyeth1023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      modern supercar esthetics backwards, lol wow

    • @Josh_ltt
      @Josh_ltt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I see it. But just curious, what are you on?

    • @marquisemiller2108
      @marquisemiller2108 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's literally how I first glanced at it!

    • @aintgotnophd2196
      @aintgotnophd2196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marquisemiller2108same

  • @Xaltar_
    @Xaltar_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Morgan never disappoint, absolutely love this. Morgan's classic look with a healthy dose Pininfarina styling, couldn't think of a better pairing. Morgan have always been so underrated, an amazing car isn't just about speed, new tech and record hunting, Morgan has class and that all too elusive personal touch.

  • @Ven100
    @Ven100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I rented a Morgan Plus Four (2021 model) recently for my birthday and they're some of the most beautiful cars. Picked it up right from the factory in Malvern and took it along some nice English country roads and even drove it down to Wales. 🧐🎩 It was the same color presented here, white with the red wine interior. The only difference was that it was a 6 speed manual. The shifter has chrome up top and looks far better than the auto shifter that's used in every auto version as displayed here. I'm sure at this price point they can opt for the manual transmission

  • @Navoii.
    @Navoii. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw a Morgan in real life two days ago, and I really want one. Morgan, with modern classic cars, is like a dream for me
    That still doesn't mean I don't like screens in cars, but it's different in cars like Morgan

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It needs to be a manual. If I had the money, what ever it took I would ditch the engine for something normally aspirated with a manual box. Perhaps the classic BMW 3.2 M straight 6 would be perfect.

  • @nofollowers_dc4009
    @nofollowers_dc4009 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    stunning piece

  • @kaboombox1581
    @kaboombox1581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thankfully it doesn’t have the cross-eyed look of the Morgan Aero 8.

    • @Acrowat40
      @Acrowat40 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was down to the Beetle headlights. So wrong.

  • @rafaellastracom6411
    @rafaellastracom6411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow, talk about hitting the nail on the head. I love the name, Midsummer. Good times.

  • @thebagnechannel3183
    @thebagnechannel3183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This car is both unique and familiar. Overall, a stunning design.

  • @jerrywong563
    @jerrywong563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you turn the cockpit around facing the other way and then put a bubble over it, it would make a supercar.

  • @outcasttea_1016
    @outcasttea_1016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Incredible that are able to do this masterpiece.🍷

  • @mby_dk
    @mby_dk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How could you miss that the top of the grille is taken from the wheels?
    The back end reminds me of a Marcos. The gearbox selector is horrible in this context. The front has some references to Bugatti.
    But all in all very beautiful.

  • @YossiDagan
    @YossiDagan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    piece of art

  • @Kaisan-vc8fw
    @Kaisan-vc8fw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are men whose children go to such schools as Eton, Charterhouse and Dulwich, who have already put the name of their 'loin fruit' down on the waiting list for one of these, which will be as epic as the car.

    • @VickersDoorter
      @VickersDoorter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does indeed look a vehicle fit for the painfully entitled, well, until their pater does a Neil Woodford with the investment fund and life goes tits-up.

  • @RobertMacNeil-t7c
    @RobertMacNeil-t7c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    barchettas have returned!

  • @aldrichuyliong8143
    @aldrichuyliong8143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gorgeous. I can't wait for the hardtop version: the Morgan Hereditary.

  • @abdelhamidbc
    @abdelhamidbc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the 458 was by francesco coco in house designer and not pininnfarina

  • @tanaisheckleford411
    @tanaisheckleford411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Why does this car look like a weird Pagani Utopia speedster in the Thumbnail ?

    • @noah-kotlarek
      @noah-kotlarek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they are both kinda steampunky but also smoothed out and reduced

  • @Mika-lr4zh
    @Mika-lr4zh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely stunning looking Morgan. Who would have thought you’d ever hear me say that!

  • @fortheloveofnoise
    @fortheloveofnoise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Going back to the 50s and 60s? My dude....going back to the 1920s...they been at it over 100 years with the roadsters

  • @okemefulachidera5440
    @okemefulachidera5440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I wish they fitted a manual gear box that looks like the Paganis and also a bit of a wind shield
    I love this car

    • @deankavivya2118
      @deankavivya2118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a barchetta . They are designed to be permanent open top, very small windscreen. Like a boat

  • @ilmelangolo
    @ilmelangolo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grazie!

  • @mangotail6808
    @mangotail6808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Noone does a better job at bringing vintage styling and some modern technology together to make a new car, than Morgan. 💛

  • @Ramsi-Berlin
    @Ramsi-Berlin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pininfarina & Morgan very beautyful ❣️👌🏼
    Well done 😅
    Love from Berlin 🇩🇪
    Ramsi 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @charlestessier4973
    @charlestessier4973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Exquisite little road riva 🤌

  • @leonnottingham4618
    @leonnottingham4618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is perfect just like that, I’ll like to see a hard top or soft top.

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Morgan is like Porsche with the 911 in that they’ve taken a basic design that goes back decades and constantly updated it without losing anything. There’s no doubt that Midsummer is a Morgan.

  • @robertnicholls9917
    @robertnicholls9917 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love those sketches.

  • @shankarbalan3813
    @shankarbalan3813 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks very stylish. Like those Boat-Tails.

  • @SkotiM
    @SkotiM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wasnt concentrating when i looked at the thumbnail for this video, so I thought the back was the front and vice versa.
    In my opinion it looks really good with the back being the front.

  • @lefroy1
    @lefroy1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So beautiful. The one thing I'm not convinced of though, is the wood element above the doors.

  • @chancewilson207
    @chancewilson207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a beauty. A future classic.

  • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
    @KevinSmith-qi5yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These older vehicle designs have grown on me as I get older. Makes me want a Hurtan if I could import it into the US.

  • @pranavmohite8544
    @pranavmohite8544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the most beautiful cars I've seen!

  • @goose4150
    @goose4150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Masterpiece of the year. If there was a coupé or a hardtop version of it as well I would do things for one

  • @smoath
    @smoath 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow...
    Wow.

  • @djangosoftwaredeveloper
    @djangosoftwaredeveloper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could change the seats in the other direction and its still beautiful

  • @bayzetgasanov8438
    @bayzetgasanov8438 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first few seconds I looked at the title screen, I thought it was something like Pagani. Then I realized that where I expected, the bow of the car turned out to be the stern.

  • @Mr112W
    @Mr112W 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they could've just painted the gear shifter the same colour as the dashboard so it matches the colour scheme of the interior at least, because its not a bad shaped shifter its just black and obvious

  • @MaxDephyantz
    @MaxDephyantz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a beautiful car!

  • @stephf121
    @stephf121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sunday ❤ Sweet spot , fun.

  • @jameshamilton6096
    @jameshamilton6096 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fabulous looking car, until it rains in the UK's glorious weather, and heaven help us in the depths of winter, but then i suspect those that can afford it wouldn't care about the cars practicalities.

  • @stuchly1
    @stuchly1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really does look absolutely stunning. Excellent.
    Edit:
    I just wanted to say, I would kinda want to see bmw's own take on bringing back their own 30s or 40s speedster in a similar form to this. I think they have a wonderful design history to pull from too the 328 for example. A gorgeous thing to behold too with sporting pedigree to boot.
    I just think it would be fun to see. At least in the form of a concept car.
    The 507 kinda received that rejuvenation in the form of the Z3 and Z4 but still... Seeing the 507 brought up to date again...

  • @gaycha6589
    @gaycha6589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks sensational ❤

  • @buddy1155
    @buddy1155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am wondering what you think about the Donkervoort F22

  • @muhammedrashid2125
    @muhammedrashid2125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Sir😊

  • @wendyharbon7290
    @wendyharbon7290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    White is not a good colour for this Morgan, it would be better in either British Racing Green, or Royal Navy Blue.
    Or Post Office Red, or maybe two tone Black over Silver finishes too.
    Though this Morgan model, should have a old fashion style wooden trimmed stainless steel steering, with a matching gearknob leaver too.
    Where are either the wing side mirrors, or door side mirrors, or even centre dashboard rear mirror too?
    Will this new Morgan model even have a folding soft top hood, or rear external spare wheel, plus stainless steel luggage rack as well?
    So it is a usable car all year round, it rains a lot in the United Kingdom, plus the UK weather is very changeable too.
    If Morgan are only building 50 of this new model, then maybe US $ 250,000 too US $ 300,000 asking price is asking reasonable.
    However, if Morgan reduce the price to £ 125,000 per car, then offered to build between 100 to 150 vehicles, maybe upto 200 if there is enough interest too.
    Then many more true Morgan fans and drivers, would more than likely buy this new Morgan model, plus they would enjoy driving it on daily or weekly basis, maybe doing 4,000 to 6,000 miles a year too.
    Than just the Super Rich Multi Millionaire car collectors, who snap up limited Super Car Production run vehicles as investments.
    Then keep them in private garages, locked away behind mansion gates and private estate walls, maybe only to take them out once or twice a year if that, just putting the odd few miles on them.
    When is a Morgan, not a Morgan, when it is locked up in a garage and not being driven.
    Morgans are cars to be driven after all, as well as loved and enjoyed, plus seen on summer afternoon country drive going by too.
    On roads like where Morgans are built in Malvern, Worcestershire in the UK, plus driven along the nearby Welsh Borders hillside roads.
    Or along French Swiss and Italian Alpine Mountain narrow climing and decending plus sharp cornering roads, with equally great views too!
    An old or new Morgan, is not a city street or motorway driving car, its a car for wide open country roads and lanes.
    Saying that, this is a lovely looking Morgan, hand built by British craftsmen and women, a credit to Morgan too!

  • @OldSquirrelStudios
    @OldSquirrelStudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beyond lucky to have 1/50
    Doing the spec for mine next week! What color advice would you give? At the moment I’m looking at a burgundy/cabernet colour for body, with light cream interior and burgundy stitching - with gloss wood like a classic wooden speedboat (Riva Aquaramas) Asking for an alternate shifter and slightly taller windshield if possible.

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aesthetically flawless. Here's the thing: It doesn't cost any more to make a beautiful car than an ugly one. It's like all the concept cars that never make to production. These teasers remind me of a beautiful woman, well endowed, walking in the allure of her beauty, knowing you'll never have her for a wife.

    • @PhilipShand
      @PhilipShand 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      garymcaleer6112........I'll take the car,you can have the woman.In 40yrs the car will still be drop-dead-gorgeous

  • @sharjeelali1242
    @sharjeelali1242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The tail gives off a pagani vibe

  • @theskydivingpickle
    @theskydivingpickle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great roadster. Still behind a AustinHealey 3000 BN1

  • @HassanAli-ui1oz
    @HassanAli-ui1oz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The back of the car in the thumbnail looks like the front of a Pagani Zonda?

  • @---us7qf
    @---us7qf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why can't they put in the same manual shifter, that goes into the Morgan PlusFour now?

  • @paulbraid2658
    @paulbraid2658 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine...the back was the front ,so the engine would be in the back.superstar in reverse

  • @bradleywright2256
    @bradleywright2256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thought it was a custom Lamborghini then I realized it was the back of the car

  • @Morocko74
    @Morocko74 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. Don't know if you've heard about the Pontiac coming back ad but if they were which 3-4 models do you think they would reintroduce and how would you imagine them (all featuring the iconic "firebird" emblems on hood and other areas).

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I saw the video thumbnail I thought the front was the rear and the rear the front.

  • @robertgierschick6695
    @robertgierschick6695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gorgeous.

  • @jassonsw
    @jassonsw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No windscreen or roof?!

  • @anthonyrau5313
    @anthonyrau5313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like the halfmoon insert in the top of the grill is a replica of the wheel design or vice versa.

  • @ΑΘΑΝΑΣΙΟΣΔΑΡΑΒΕΛΙΑΣ
    @ΑΘΑΝΑΣΙΟΣΔΑΡΑΒΕΛΙΑΣ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you take off the front lights as a siluate i think it will be much more beautiful to switch the front to the rear to be honest..

  • @Santos.Sarmento
    @Santos.Sarmento 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are absolutely right, this beauty doesn’t deserve this ugly BMW gear shift, a proper manual one would put it as the perfect gentleman’s car.
    Greetings from Brazil.

  • @nathanielmoore87
    @nathanielmoore87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Morgan and McLaren are the last 2 true British car brands left. All the others are foreign owned now with limited control in their own direction. It's amazing to me that Morgan still uses the same tooling they bought 60+ years ago.

  • @annoymouse890
    @annoymouse890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see those indicator stalks from a mini

  • @heidelbergaren5054
    @heidelbergaren5054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did the rearview mirrors go ?

  • @r.i.peperoniiiiroh9625
    @r.i.peperoniiiiroh9625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you Rate the dutch made Carice Tc2 because the design looks a bit like the porsche 356

  • @chileshemubanga3594
    @chileshemubanga3594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a masterpiece!🤯😍

  • @jansefran1752
    @jansefran1752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful ... MUST HAVE !!! 👍🚙🙏

  • @emgee44
    @emgee44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not keen on the wood trim on the doors, looks tacky imho, however I do like what Morgan did with done the rear end.

  • @doctabyte5370
    @doctabyte5370 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I first saw this car I thought the rear was the front at first

  • @jhoanmartinez2668
    @jhoanmartinez2668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Certified Funded Trader Congrats man!

  • @enriqueali
    @enriqueali 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having to wear goggles to drive will be a deal breaker for many

  • @alexadelaide
    @alexadelaide 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That steering wheel needs some tan/red leather but yes absolute beauty

  • @ercanmpal
    @ercanmpal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely car to ride on the seaside😍

  • @jamescorderjr1274
    @jamescorderjr1274 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Richard Hammond is gonna be all over this

  • @idreessahadat3002
    @idreessahadat3002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only thing missing is carbon fiber. I remember when Morgan raced in FIA gt racing in the 90's. Amazing and beautiful cars.

  • @hieroglyph321
    @hieroglyph321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine if they incorporated swivel seats....2 cars in one! 😅

  • @1972jjb
    @1972jjb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree it's great styling overall.
    My only criticism would be that the nose looks somehow too high up, startled and 'baby faced', sucking on an afterthought number-plate dummy. Cant help thinking if they moved across the number-plate to the front side fender -Alfa Romeo 159 style -the lower continuing grille would then be revealed behind, to look helpfully longer ..reducing the stuck up 'baby button nose' aesthetic that's not quite right presently. (Other option is to lower the number plate over/replacing the central lower air intake -although that's not ideal visually and it breaks the clean unbroken wide air intake as is). Possibly the Morgan Super three headlights with their horizontal mid bar would look 'sleeker' and less startled than these illuminated perimeter lights? Maybe with your talents, you might photoshop it? I like your video anyway!

  • @ronnypeters5593
    @ronnypeters5593 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Cool, I want a sketch cap. :)

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker1224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, but by the time yours is ready for collection the ICE versions will be illegal!!

  • @tommynobaka
    @tommynobaka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful car. The gear selector is horrendous. They should've used the M Sport style gear selector that is much thinner and more bulbous shaped, rather than a tv remote

  • @mahoganywood6468
    @mahoganywood6468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a Zonda but with the front and rear swapped

  • @roadrunner708
    @roadrunner708 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m surprised the Chinese haven’t put out cheap knockoffs of the Morgan

  • @SelectCircle
    @SelectCircle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If this stuns you - then you're very easily stunned.

  • @whoisvahid
    @whoisvahid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should see the inside of Spyker Preliator

  • @NotMyAccount
    @NotMyAccount 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I saw the thumbnail, I thought I was curious why does a pagani have red headlights

  • @casperyourfriendlyghost7552
    @casperyourfriendlyghost7552 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not a manual? I mean less a windshield which makes for the rawest driving experience

  • @bahrainhasnan
    @bahrainhasnan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like those wheels on this car

  • @eeblatter
    @eeblatter หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love a good retro-modern design and this car has that in spades. I like the sculptural quality of the body and fenders but some of the details are a bit too quirky for me. One is the doors that overlap the body with exposed hinges. I know they are addressing a classic era design but it just looks stuck on and not coachbuilt. The big chunky wood door tops- clearly Italian modern feel to it but it is too much of a visual distraction and I would want to hang my elbow out on occasion. The whole door upholstery looks very confused and amateur. And I do not know how you could register this in the US without a glass windshield and wipers. It won't fly with the DOT. I guess if you have your own island it's not an issue.

  • @ChristianrnstrupRasmussen
    @ChristianrnstrupRasmussen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1.000 hp!? Morgan had to detune the B58 inline-6 …

  • @JohnathanSUS4075
    @JohnathanSUS4075 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a morris minor and a stormtrooper had a baby.

  • @lib556
    @lib556 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks great and I'd love to own one. However... I'm not convinced about the wood atop the doors. I love wood in a Brit classic. But you can have too much of a good thing. The wood on the door is just ... awkward-looking. Although I don't want practicality to get in the way of looks... it needs a windshield and some sort of cover from the rain. Particularly in the UK where it's raining all the time.

  • @ThomasTCLiew
    @ThomasTCLiew 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is unfortunate they will only make very limited numbers of this car, most people will not be able to own it even if they can afford it and want it.

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes exclusive products rely on being special, as opposed to run of the mill off the shelf products) It’s the same with ladies diamond jewellery and couture. (If you make more the rich will not buy them). These cars will probably never be driven on the road…

  • @RichardSammons-e2t
    @RichardSammons-e2t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needs to be a coupe aeroline

  • @jandoerlidoe3412
    @jandoerlidoe3412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ... and it has a German engine & drive train.....not one from Britain...thank heaven for that....