Which Choke Is Best For Sporting Clays??? | Pattern Testing Teague Chokes
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- This week Edward heads out to pattern test his Teague choked to find out with is most suited to shooting sporting clays
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I shot 1/4 1/4 for years, clay and game, a coach watching me suggested i changed to 3/8 3/8. 6 months changed back, absolutely no difference at all. I stick with the same cartridges all the time on clays, only change for live game. I'd love a fixed choke 1/4 1/4.
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Hello, a comment from a colonial, if you don’t mind. My extensive experience in sporting clays reveals that patterning from the same barrel of a dopple bockbitzer will NOT provide you with the experience to effectually engage targets at random ranges and double targets from the station. Rather, you need to know what load (from what brand of ammunition) patterns where at various ranges. My investigations revealed that Lite Modified (3/8 choke) worked best out to 22 meters in my shotgun; and Improved Modified (5/8 choke) worked best at about 35 meters. My test and evaluation. Compare.
Good clear and insightful content.My coach has 3/8 and 3/8 but alternates the cartridge he uses depending on the target.i'm relatively new to shooting but have one teague 3/8 choke on my 694,might get another after watching this.I have been looking at an Invictus though after trying the Ascent out.Cheers
Nice video and interesting subject as it raises a number of issues which relate to factors such as the shotgunners confidence in equipment choices and what constitutes a suitable or decent target break ie. do want targets smoked or just enough for a score? I’ve used a combination of 3/8 and 1/2 choke for various forms of sporting clays over a long time. The 3/8 has performed extremely well in various guns of varying bore diameter and chokes of varying choke geometry…..including shooting distances well beyond 40m, particularly when there is some degree of target belly or dome presentation. Having said that, I often feel a true 1/4 choke is often underrated nowadays, particularly as it does provide an aim-error advantage over tighter chokes which does come in handy on many (not all) of today’s competition courses. It may not smoke targets at extended ranges, however, it will get the job done well beyond 30m if we look hard enough.
Love my Teague 3/8s 3/8s titanium chokes in my Browning Game gun shot some incredible things last season. Need to get some for the Ultra XS Pro next top video mate
I have had a Longthorne sidelock for over 10 years, fixed chokes which are quarter and half, shoots everything from clays to game. Last year I purchased a Caesar Gerini Maxum Gold Ltd which is a stunning looking gun. Went to Purbeck S.S. put quarter choke in both barrels and used Hull Sporting 100 with 28g 8 shot on some of their FITASC layouts, some of the clays were easily 60 yards plus, most were broken convincingly. I believe Mike Reynolds, who owned Norfolk S.G. before he passed away, used a Browning bored improved cylinder and quarter choke. He won numerous national sporing titles.
Would have been interesting to see how the guerini chokes patterned at side of the teagues.
That may be a video for the future
Another brilliant vid keep it up pal
Thanks
Worth having a look at the shot in those Sporting 100's, found some dust size shot in the ones I opened. Shot Hull for 10 years, but moved to Fiocchi after that, probably not noticeable at 30 yards, but beyond 50 you need to know the shot is a consistent size.
Nice shooting man. I use light mod, which is 3/8 in both my barrels and been doing well. With it. I shoot sporting clay league every week
Been shooting a fixed choke 3/8th 3/8th gun for ESP for the last seven years. 8 shot for everything apart from if it's right on the end of the barrels when I'll drop a piston wad 9 in. That combo breaks everything from 7 to 70 yards if I point it in the right place.
Nice film on chokes very good content I was at blyton clay shoot today needed a repair they advised me to take it to you so look forward to seeing you soon
Look forward to meeting you bud
I use skeet/cyl and 7.5 shot, good out 40-45 yrds if clay is showing plenty of face, I go 3/8 1/2 if showing only an edge. You only have to break them, not dust them. Close in less than 20-25 yrds sk/cyl and fiber 9's the bigger the patten the better.
Great video , I use 3/8 all the time . Just 7.5’s , going to get some 6.5’s as well , I’ve read elsewhere about changing cartridges instead of chokes , definitely seems the way forward 👍
I agree
My Blaser F3 shoots incredibly tight patterns, 1/4 and 1/2 will break most targets, if they are out further I just change to a cartridge with harder shot the advances in shot gun barrel design (forcing cone length and internal diameter) along with the evolution in chokes have led to a lot less shot damage the result being much more uniform patterns . Modern cartridges are simply state of the art with consistent long range breaks an every day occurrence.
Great reveiw ,I agree with you 100%, I used to shoot 3/4 / full ,I started to use 3/8ths both barrels using S&B super trap 7's not much difference I thought & it seemed easy to shoot more forgiving.👍👍
Thanks
I saw you as you were starting the essex masters putting in your 5/8s and did want to say "you wont be needing those!" Didnt want to get in your head though! FWIW I shot the day with 1/4 1/4 through a K80. Didnt need to change.
What choke to use for trap to have a more advantage to miss but still break the target, that you don't have to be ultra ultra precise.
What choke gives you a little advantage to miss a little bit but still break the target so u dont need to be ultra precise
Hello fellow shooters. I am new to this site and have a few questions if you allow my view point? I am curious as to why when you are patterning a shotgun are you not shooting from a bench rest? I have always shot from a bench rest whenever patterning a shotgun it is way more accurate. I do not understand your choke system, but I do understand how chokes work.
Did you go for the stainless steel or the titanium ones?
so I use LM in the US, and I came to this conclusion after experimenting on the field.. I enjoyed your video and thank you but I had to google out the UK choke terminology and found out that what you are recommending as a 3/8 is actually what we call LM.. So I absolutely agree with your conclusions, and thanks again for a wonderful video
Same had to look up the UK vs US standards. I use Low Modified (bottom) and Improved Modified (top). On my semi auto I stay with Low Modified. I shot really well with 870 Remington fixed choke of Modified. So that was my reference point personally, and how I got to those combinations of LM/IM
@@timh4886 interesting combination
I use 3/8 for everything through both barrels because i use 24g 8’s for all my shooting and I get some good distance on it, I’ve used it on pheasants and it’s a good choke in my opinion with the pellet size
Glad you agree
Ok not the place but if you were having a 12 gauge game gun made with fixed chokes what would you specify? I was thinking 3/8 and 5/8.
3/8 3/8 and some quality cartridges work wonders, I shot the English Open and left my 3/8 in, didn't struggle on anything and hit everything. I carry a pair of 5/8 but they rarely see use.
Definitely the way forward
That's very interesting. I bought a Miroku with fixed chokes from Edward. Chokes are imp cyl and 3/8. I've always used more choke and was concerned this might not be enough. I had asked Ed about having it fitted with Teague chokes, but might not need to.
Great video! I shoot with teague 3/8 - 5/8 in all disciplines. Indeed, 3/8 works perfectly, but the 5/8 gives you some smashes that you need for psychology boosting! 😁😁
And you’re also missing more targets by using tighter chokes but sadly our ego loves to see smoke so we’ll sacrifice our scores for smoke. Doesn’t make sense but too many people do it
i shoot 3/8 3/8 in my f16 and i had a lesson at cockets farm lee the coach / trainer got me shooting some 50 yard crossers so yes they do the job
A lot depends on where you shoot, there are 3 grounds relatively local to me, that I wouldnt use anything more than 1/4 on. Competitions are generally a different kettle of fish. Pattern boards are a bit like conspiracy theorists. They ask a lot of questions but don't prove anything. Gives you a rough idea but no two shots will ever be perfectly replicated. People also overlook the shot string rather than the spread. You might get a few side on flyers that break the target. Or you may get some of the final pellets do the damage. Where the majority actually missed.
I use 3/8 and 3/8 and just change shells. I will shoot cyl/cyl under 20 yds.
Thanks for sharing !
Thank you
How would 3/8 work with steel
Just going back to how it used to be,before multi chokes became the norm. Just learn to shoot your gun and select the appropriate shell for whatever the Job in hand is. I always go for a fixed choked gun if available, unfortunately getting harder to find.
Multi is the modern way but also means everyone can find there own set up
I've been told Caesar Guerinis shoot tight patterns compared to other manufacturers, for the same choke constriction.
That is due to their factory chokes which are fantastic
Very interesting video and yes another vote from me for changing cartridges not chokes. Keep up the quality content of the channel 10/10.
Bumped into you several times at cockets farm. All the best Adam 💥💨💥💨👍🏻
Thank you Adam! Please come say hello next you see me there!!!
Gun throws a nice pattern regardless of choke. Very impressive.
Thank you
@@roymartingunsmiths814 Ed, In his book, ' Shotguns and Cartridges', Gough Thomas states that the effect of choke on pattern diameter decreases at longer ranges.
It would be very interesting to set up the boards at say 45 to 50 yards and see how the patterns compared. ( probably just number of strikes and spacing ). If, for example, 3/8 put as many pellets on the board as 3/4, it would demonstrate that tailoring load to range and quarry is more important than choke.
Crazy how many people changing chokes every station and yet I’ve watched guys crush 50yd crossers using a SK choke, 7/8oz of 7-1/2’s. Want further confirmation, on you tube watch Ben Husthwaite choke video where he said he was in a 3 way shootoff with Digweed and Matterese (spelling) and he had never seen targets that far before, he won the shootoff and was sure he had 3/4 chokes in his gun but once he checked they were indeed 1/4 (IC) chokes. It’s in our heads. The tighter the average shooter goes the more handicapped they are and their scores will suffer.
Well done mate👍you’re starting to put out some quality content
Thank you!!!🙏🏼
Which one do you choose a CG or 694 😅
Caesar Guerini all the way
Would you say the Teague are better than the normal chokes that come with the Guerini’s. I only say this as I’ve just got an Apex and thinking about going Teague but Iam hitting things ok with the standard chokes it came with. But Iam 3/8 n 5/8 at the moment.
I can’t say either is better as unfortunately I haven’t spent a lot of time using the standard chokes. I have always used teagues in the past and have a lot of confidence in them. I think a steep choke will set you back about £50 and I’d say they are worth trying
@@roymartingunsmiths814 Yes I’ve had them in all my Mk38’s. It’s just my Apex came with the usual 8 factory chokes Think I’ll buy a couple of Teagues see how I go. Thanks for the reply and great video. Also are you agents for Ceasar Guerini by anychance as I’d be looking to change my Apex possibly for a new apex and you’re not a million miles away. Nick
We certainly are! Feel free to come in and see us and have a look at what stock we have
I'd pattern it and see if you can find reason to change chokes first. I'm a Teague fan but my previous gun was a CG Summit and the chokes that come with that, are known to perform well.
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It wont make a difference, distances aren’t what they used to be. Besides, If pros can’t tell the difference between one choke constriction and another, then the majority of the shooting population won’t.
Only thing it affects is the mental aspect.
Why you dont use extented chokes?
I prefer flush fitting, just a bit more traditional.
Ok, thanks for answer.
Very interesting, I also run 3/8 both barrels . Slightly agree with the dislike for the rock music second half. If your trying to appeal to a American audience it will probably work but personally I found it a bit distracting and annoying. Only my opinion will still follow your content.
Who doesn't like a decent Guitar riff now and then with breaking targets?
It’s Just a bit of music to make things exciting mate
I am
Guessing that choke lingo only exists in the UK. I have never in my 63 years heard of 1/4 choke and so
On. Always been cylinder, IC, Modified, IM, Full, Extra full, skeet one and skeet 2. That 1/4, 3/8 and so
On mean nothing to me. The rest of the world uses the choke names
I gave. All gun makers use what I said. You have your own lingo. Odd.
when the rock music started in the second half i left , thought it was a shooting channel but was wrong .
Can't see any patterns, horrible music, very poor video
Watch on TV, pattern is clear then.
I am
Guessing that choke lingo only exists in the UK. I have never in my 63 years heard of 1/4 choke and so
On. Always been cylinder, IC, Modified, IM, Full, Extra full, skeet one and skeet 2. That 1/4, 3/8 and so
On mean nothing to me. The rest of the world uses the choke names
I gave. All gun makers use what I said. You have your own lingo. Odd.