2024 Ford Mustang GT vs. Dark Horse Mustang // Stock Comparison // Dig and Roll Drag Race
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2023
- Battle of the Mustang 5.0L V8! We headed to the Pennzoil Proving Ground to line up the all-new 2024 Ford Mustang GT and flagship Dark Horse to see how they compare in a straight line. Both cars in the race have gone through the proper factory-proposed break-in process. The Mustang GT is a GT Premium coupe, optioned with the GT Performance Package and 10-speed automatic transmission. The Dark Horse is a Dark Horse Premium coupe and is optioned with the Dark Horse Appearance Package, Dark Horse Handling Package, and 10-speed automatic transmission.
Factory Figures:
GT - 480 HP // 415 lb-ft of torque
Dark Horse - 500 HP // 418 lb-ft of torque
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Great video. Straight to the point. No bullshit. No shitty fillers and unnecessary talking. Just two cars racing.
And no trash music!!
No dry corny jokes
No turbos no superchargers
Honestly bro
@@Polo22546well there is trash music tho
Thank you for making a straight forward video.
I’m tired of hearing about the damn history and why the moon phases matter for trap times etc…
Just straight to the point!
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Would you like to hear about the mustang backstory for the 1000th time?
20hp is negligible at near 4000lbs.
It’s more about the total output if all else is equal. 20hp is not negligible at 400lbs when your total output is 30hp and the other car is 10hp.
On the other hand, 20hp is negligible when it’s only 4% of 500hp.
Besides, it doesn’t take into account the weight difference, tuning, gearing, and all the other differences.
Surely nobody is buying the DH for the supposed power gain that it was rated to make on paper.
People would be crying that it has the same engine and tuning as the normal GT and i would be too.
Yeah but if the HP is spread well across the powerband 20 HP can make a big difference
No doubt! 20 hp and maybe 3 ft-lb diff. Big meh.... I expected better from Hennessey. Some will talk up the auto transmission, but if you buy a sports car without a manual then we just can't be friends lol. (all of these numbers are the manual transmissions.) It takes three time-sucking shifts to hit 100 mph in the Dark Horse, but only two in the GT. The Dark Horse also loses time from 94 to 107 mph because its fourth gear is taller than the GT's third gear. When the GT is shifted into fourth, though, the Dark Horse claws back most of that time. That's why there's a relatively large, 0.6-second gap to 100 mph but a marginal 0.1 second difference in the quarter-mile times. (from Motortrend)
If you don't mind spending an extra $10,000+ for the DH, go for it. But I sure as hell wouldn't.
@@courtney5796 They're the only ones doing this comparison.. so I'm thankful they did.
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We needed this type of video with the 350 and need one against the Mach1 👀
The gt350 beats all of them. Anyone who wastes their money on a overpriced GT or a darkhorse should have their heads checked for not just getting a mach1 or gt350 instead. Yuppies will overpay and this is why we are here.
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@@shanefowler9443I loveeeee the Gt350 and it’s even cheaper than dark horse also. You can get a 2018 350 with basically no miles for around 60k
Not really what you wanna see after you advertise a flagship trim 😅
My exact thoughts 😂😂😂
Did you expect something else?
@@BC08 nope lol
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Good, you weren’t disappointed.
Dark Horse only has a more aggressive timing curve a larger duration (per Ford) camshafts for the extra power.
It ain’t the GT350 replacement, it’s the Mach 1 replacement.
@@BC08Local dealer has Mach 1’s cheaper than 24’ GT’s. Mach 1 is still the better buy to be honest
That Dark Horse sounds AWESOME!!!
GT PP with active exhaust sounds just as good as DH and has 6 more HP than the GT tested here...
Of course it will be close. It’s a drag race and you’re talking about only a 20HP difference. The dark horse is supposed to be track focused for tight cornering not really driving in a straight. But hey everybody is a critic 💁🏾♂️ great video too!
Dark Donkey is 4000lbs almost lol
Made for turns at 4,000 pounds lmao The cope people come up with is crazy. The Darkhorse is a flop.
@@Sol-hd7pz it’s already been proven that you can make 4,000+ lb cars handle though? Lol I mean literally look at the GT500? This argument is dumb. Especially if you expected the heavier car with only 14-20 more hp to walk away.
Thats what all the slow car owner use as an excuse. Who buys a mustang to corner? Buy a corvette if you wanna corner and wanna be fast for the SAME PRICE.
Exactly
I admit I was down on the S650 mustang and particularly the Dark Horse until I read the Motor Trend review and watched this video. The Darkhorse is the real deal and if I didn't own a 500 I'd consider one. My gripe is the 75k price tag. Way too high for a GT regardless of options/packages.
Not to mention whatever market adjustment BS dealers are putting on them. I found one in rural NC with a $15K adder. Makes me want to find a used 500 like your or a 350!
I could never spend corvette money on a mustang gt performance pack, essentially....Ford is price gouging. What a joke.
@@camonly849you have crazy add ONS on the vettes as well. I dunno what's going on with the auto industry since COVID. It's nuts
@JamaicanMeCrazy yeah, but it's a vette lol....670hp z06 with carbon everything and a complete track monster. The dark horse is closer to the base c8.
@@camonly849curious as to where you are seeing the z06 for the price of a new gt?
20 hp more for at least 10k more,no thanks.
Sadly I won't be able to help myself 😞
but the appearance looks much better & more aggressive ☠🔥
I love my Dark Horse. It is my first (and probably last) sports car I ever owned.
It is exciting to drive. Thank you, Ford! I'm glad you didn't give up on American muscle cars!
Perfect car comparison video…straight to the point 👊🏾🔥
This made me realize how much more fun a manual is lol
Great video! 👍
Right automatics are so boring 😡
@@dennisbraxton3770not boring when u seeing my taillights
Maybe so, but it's still faster and that's the point of it lol
@@ShiftnliftAre you one of those people who measure their Dick size by how fast their car is?😂
tremec manual... lol, the GTs gearbox is ok if you aren't ever going to take it to the track and its just for spirited back roads or mountain roads
The only one and Best car race videos on TH-cam yet
Dang they sound amazing.
Great video, need more like this please
Great video straight up ⬆️
That's one hell of a video 👍🔥
the exhaust on the Dark Horse is really nice 🔥
No it ain’t. The car sounds bad.
@@goofy_xf6223 Oh ok.
The drone footage is awesome
How can you ask for a better video. Slick, to the point and informative.
Hennessy keep up the good work 👍 real true and I love the video real true and I love new mustangs look good 💯
will be nice to see what y'all come up with for these
Seems about right on the rolling race. 20hp isn’t going to be a drastic difference. Not sure about the dig race though. The GT probably bogged a bit off the line is my guess.
Bogging is a feature for GTs, buy our Dark Horse 😂😂😂
@@FunkyBananaBear My paid off 2018 has over 500 hp. I'll keep up with the Dark Horse just fine.
@@thullraven1yea just seem as if your best of with that version anyway not really a difference anyway it’ll be way cheaper I assume then to buy a dark horse
Probably stickier tires.
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Seen a Dark horse in the wild the other day. Really does look amazing and the sound was very strong. Cool car for sure
That 1st roll.. They Stayed Even!
Best bet is a base GT for $41,000 and you get a nice stick to go with it. Put an H pipe ($250), remove carbon filters, and install an air intake ($450). If you really wanna go crazy remove the catalytics as well. It is going to sound great, and it will blow the doors off the dark horse! It is also the more streetable car. For under $42,000 you’ll have a really nice running and sounding 500 hp street machine. What more can you ask for in 2024
Absolutely incredible video.
This is what car advertisements in TV should be!
The drone flight, following the cars looks stunning and i love it when someone cuts videos with the music like at 2:09 :D
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Great camera work, fantastic video. Good job! 💯
Can’t wait for the GTD!
I would just buy the base manual version and save money. Most people don’t go to the track so it is fairly pointless to get the top trim.
Absolutely 💯
Please say that again! So many people are caught up on all the Hype but not looking at it for what it is.
But how else are they going to compensate for whatever they are lacking? hahaha
Sorry bro I’m not Poor 😂😂 I’ll enjoy my dark horse with it’s amazing brakes and wild colors. Y’all just mad it’s not stupid fast in a straight line 😂 and when whipple makes a package for em I’ll be enjoying it 10x more then your base GT 😂
Not all people are saving money though. Some people actually have money to spare and if you're somebody like me who wants the best out of anything, I get triggered when a new version comes out and it's better than what I currently have. I always go for the top trim and I am not even compensating. I am an introvert and I have social anxiety. I don't care what other people think of me or what they say about the things I have, I'm not gonna hear them anyway. I just want the things I want because I want them not because I want to show off. Showing off is not my thing. I have no interest in sharing nor do I have the desire to please other people. Everything I have is strictly for my personal entertainment.
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That’s a good sounding drag race
Epic exhaust song. Remins me of the Bullit exhaut sound from he movie.
Straight to the point
I had an allocation for a dark horse. Guy offered to buy it from me so I sold it. I have a Whipple F150 now. 😂
Well done , exactly what I did 😂 what color did you get ? I got silver 🦾
@@MA-lv3kt I got Oxford white 😂
Smart move. There's a sucker with money around the corner. You dodged a bullet. Actually, you dodged a turd flung by Ford.
@@MA-lv3ktdh is not available in silver. Carbonized gray maybe
Smart move, Whipple F150 or Mach 1 would be the best Ford options in my opinion
So I drove both and bought the dark horse. GT had terrible steering feedback and almost no weight on the steering wheel. Dark Horse great heavier steering and glued on corners. Coming from a 6gen Camaro SS, the Dark Horse is like the perfect love child between the Mustang and Camaro. You get that great Camaro handling and that Mustang top end speed. Usually I change a lot on my cars but with this one I'm just adding LT, CAI, E85. That's all it really needs.
MUSTERO !!!!!!!!
What is lt?
This is exactly what I expected.
I like the Implementation of the FPV footage, whos the pilot? And what's the setup?
I like this video no more too much talking just racing.
This new generation looks soooo good!
Was the 500 mile break in limiter removed from these?
Good video 😮
Plus w better dampening on the darkhorse because of magneride. Its a beast on the track.
Very nice to see this as an A10 owner tho I hope they used the paddle to do that 35mph roll and slap the car from sport to drive like how I do in my s550 the concept is stil carried over it’s the best way to roll an A10
Besides the driveline what's the difference between these and a 2016 4 cylinder mustang at your local airport's rental car lot?
Great test video. I don't know why you would ever need more than six gears for a manual or seven for an auto. Can you hit 60 in second gear? If so, what are eight through ten for on the high end?
Nice, quick and to the point. The drone shots are awesome for these races, it really gives an ideal perspective to see the cars racing from above, neck and neck
great video... compare DH auto with DH 6 speed would love to see the difference
I’ve ordered a grabber blue Dark Horse ( H Pak) & will go with the FP800S option.
Man that dark horse shows where ford made all the improvements straight beast 💪🏾👹
Saved me $25k! Thanks!
I've got a 2016. I'll put up against the dark horse NA versus NA I have 502 crank....with a 6 speed....of course a roll race cause that 10 speed Is a monster...
Dark horse from the dig, same same rollin
GT was ahead at start and got caught/ pulled away from oth the 2nd roll lmfao
Dark horse just has better tires and wins from a dig put them on equal wheels and tires they're dead even
this dark horse will lose when rase with charger scat pack 100%
Not necessarily. Dark horse have wider wheels. With a strut tower and 20×9 front and 20×11 rear staggered set up on the GT. It would have been the same all the way around. Plus you can always upgrade the suspension to be track suited.
@@ehabhadi9177 stock s550s walk down scats lol those boats need a supercharger to be fast
That 10 speed transmission is crazy....
Fun in a staight line, hell to people enjoy manually shifting with paddles. You miss out on all the fun downshifts, because the gearing the downshifts sound weird and weak, and if you manual shifting you either hit the rev limiter or end up shortshifting. It's great if you leave it in automatic but I will never own another car that with the 10 speed, had 1 for 5 years on a mustang GT pp1, the joy out of a DCT and some of the German trans are on another level
@@benjaminl4524 yeah I hear you 4sure....
@benjaminl4524 I have a 16 gt350 and a f13 m6 dct and I agree with you the dct is insane but the gt350 is the most fun being a manual
@@shanefowler9443 oh yeah, that’s why it blows my mind anyone would choose the 10 speed over the 6 speed Tremec on the Mach1
@@benjaminl4524also great if you're gonna take the car on a track with actual corners and turns which is pretty much the intent. Most race/track cars these days use paddle shifters. Yeah it's not as fun, but it's more efficient and faster. It all just depends on what kind of driver you are.
Is there a huge difference between the gt, gt/cs, Mach 1, dark horse and bullit?
thanks ford for this new mustang camaro now i can have both at the same time love it
This is like when the mustang cobra first came out as a trim package and it got map pockets🤣 it’s not what you expected but you took things as they came…
So the GT doesn’t come with quad exhaust anymore? I heard it was optional now . Would there be less power with only 2? Why would they use only dual muffler here lol
Exactly what everyone expected 🤣🤣🤣
Canceled my Mustang order and went 2023 2SS 1LE. I'm huggin curves like never before and i mean huggin curves!
I LOVE my GT!! Take out the Carbon Traps and it's almost the same HP as the Dark Horse and it saved my 15K.
😂 yes ok
You buy a dark horse for the tremec
It’s been proven time and time again you maybe gain 3-6 HP from the carbon trap removal. You’re not gaining 20 HP from that lmaooo. I say this as someone who owns an S650.
And 200 plus pounds 😂😊😂😅
@@rocky_4003fr, people believe everything from standduche
Hope it's not super expensive compared to the GT. 20hp... added exhaust weight? I dont get car manufacturers, as models get higher end they add more exhaust pipes. My idea is less weight the better, the GT looks like the better choice, spend the savings in upgrades.
This is what working doing what you love looks like... fun. One day
Some draggy data would be nice
The Darkhorse is more like the Mach 1 from the s550 gen. Wonder if they’ll make anything with this gen and put the 5.2 in it.
5.2 is not perfected yet when it comes to reliability
No I would say the dark horse is the replacement for the mach 1 and gt350. That's why it offers carbon wheels etc. It just isn't good be as good as it should for 80k
Absolutely stoked after watching this! 🏁 It's amazing how both cars have their unique strengths, but I’m curious, do you all think a manual transmission truly brings more thrill to the driving experience, or has the precision and ease of automatics won the day? 🤔 And, considering the marginal horsepower difference and focus on tight cornering, is the Darkhorse truly worth the hefty price tag or could modding the base version bring more satisfaction and value? Let's discuss! 💬👇 Also, kudos to the creators for the no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point approach! 🌟
I was one of the drivers (I'm in the car with the camera).. and I wished for a MT as it brings a ton more engagement into the equation. The biggest difference between the GT and Darkhorse (IMHO) is the adaptive dampers. They made a huge difference when I went over the bumpy sections of our test track.
@@MichaelHarleyyeah six speed is always gonna be slower but its so much more engaging plus the drifts. Also if its anything like the previous s550s you can easily swap those magnaride shocks on there.🎉 If you get serious though the magna rides are coming off anyways.
Mane I see the whole engagement thing with manuals but there's it's fallbacks. I'm much more happy with my automatic GT with the performance package, hearing it gets through those gears with also the usability of the paddles makes it all worth while🥹
James why the heck does a Camaro have the transformer emblem on the steering wheel?
What rear end did both cars have?
2018 to 2021 PP1 A10 are the special GTs showing as fast or faster quarter miles then the DarkHorse. At 460 Hp and a weight nearly 300 lb less,it’s sub 12 quarters faster or at least equal to the dark horse.
You went for the auto dark horse?
Did the seats match in the Dark horse? 😅
whats the price difference for 2 car lengths ?
Still have to wait for the tuning and see where they are at that point. Dark Horse for the win and you get all the options without having to pick all the options. minus the PP2.
Oh, hell yeeeaaaaahhh!
A pp gt will be identical?
Should be compared with the GT with active exhaust, it is said that it will have some extra HP
Not SURE what delusions folks had about any landslide performance differences 20hp would make in this comparison Lol🤔
Huh??? U think horsepower is everything? It's tires, transmission ratios , steering, brakes, intake. Huhhhh lol
@@pfwww12 You apparently and completely misinterpreted what I SAID bruh!🙄...Bottom Line, all things being equal MEANING same track, same day, street, weather conditions, tires, same configuration (front eng, rwd etc) similar weight, etc. etc. 20 extra hp (especially when the car is slightly heavier) won't MEAN MUCH! I SAID what I SAID!!🤔...The actual results HERE, should've clarified my point already 🤨
I wonder what the difference would be with them both tuned aftermarket..cool video
Same outcome
@@doorkicker8507 I agree, after posting that, someone broke the tuning and during he found cam specs...they are different
The Dark Donkey is literally just an updated 2023 Mach 1. Lets just call it what it is.
That's the point why is it so hard for people to understand
They said that from day dot. Hope that's not a news.
You are 100% right
The only theoretical difference should be in cornering, appearance and a minor increase in straight line acceleration.
Are the statistics available anywhere? This was an excellent video but I do love to read numbers about performance. I think the dark horse is amazing and beautiful but my impressions so far have been that it's not really a good value proposition compared to just getting a GT and modding it. The price difference between the GT and the Dark Horse (especially the premium) just doesn't seem worth it to me. YMMV.
i think there should’ve also been a 2021 mustang GT 5.0 with the 10 speed as a reference if it actually is faster or if the new hp numbers are marketing
nice
And how much more money for the dark horse for a car length.
Thanks for doing this i now prefer tge gt
Fairly representative of what 20 extra horsepower and a small bit more mechanical grip looks like
What were their 1/4 mile and 0-60 mph times?
I don't know about the 1/4 but they advertise 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. I have a manual transmission and I will say yep.
I have a 2021 explorer st with a few bolt ons that would give these a run if not leave em
So first dig race gt bogged or spun? First roll both had even start and basically finish.. 2nd roll the darkhorse sligshots the gt to take the w..
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They should've put a NA 427 on the Dark Horse with dual throttle bodies/intakes that wouldve been ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Interesting, the darkhorse has more power but also weighs more and the torque difference is so small it might as well not be there. Guess the difference in tuning must just be that good? Maybe intentionally limiting the GT to try to push the Darkhorse sales? Idk what do I know
The Dark Horse is more expensive because it offers a lot more features than the GT. It's not limiting the GT, it just has more to offer making it faster, accelerate faster, etc.
Honestly the dark horse should've been twin turbo or supercharged from the factory cause it's being embarrassed by the gt in pretty much every video I've seen
I’m happy with the GT
Price is the difference here is it really worth getting expensive when. The gain is really not all that??
I dont think enough people know that the dark horse is a handling package with a bit more power. Its as fast as an m3 around a track.
Been seeing the Dark Horse showing up to detail shops with some WILD paint defects. Check around the fenders and plastic bumper covers before you sign fi or anything, your new car may need repainted. Sad....
I can’t find any 1/4 mile time or 60-130 videos for the dark horse
I'm guessing most of those commenting haven't even test driven a Dark Horse or an S650 Mustang GT. Apparently Hennessy likes the Dark Horse since they recently released their new Dark Horse H850. An 850 horsepower supercharged Gen 4 Coyote that uses forged internals from the GT500 while producing more horsepower than a GT500. You should be able to view a red one with a white track number at Hennessy performance.