And again, having driven FSD for so many miles I can tell you it absolutely would have gone around that Subaru clearing it and then getting back into the right lane. No intervention was necessary. It happens all the time and ever since version 12 FSD is done that type ofunexpected maneuver perfectly.
I was going to comment the same thing. Only thing it has problems sometimes with is getting and out of turning lanes. Even then it does it, just changes over at the last possible second.
Not sure why you guys are so surprised. We have been saying this system is legit for quite some time. Also you didn’t have to take over with the disabled car. It had it.
Turn on the auto speed limit in the settings and it will follow the speed limits a bit more naturally. This latest build of FSD has the eye tracking (signified by the green dot on the screen while active), really a gamechanger imo.
Why are they surprised that it didn't ask them to touch the steering wheel? It literally says it's using vision based attention monitoring, not pressure based. Elon said that 12.5 is the first version where u do not have to touch the wheel, at all.
Oh my goodness this video was so much fun to watch. I have been using full self driving since 2018, through all the dark years, through all the doubting years, I have literally driven over 100,000 miles using full self driving. So I forgot what it’s like when some people Realize for the very first time with Tesla has done and become believers :-) yes, FST is for real, it can see dear and dogs. (I live on a dirt road in the cold state of Maine, so I know all about it) and FST is for real.
JEALOUS! Every day I drive 11 miles on a very straight interstate in Iowa (I-80) and my Mach e disengages Blue Cruise twice... every day... (Yes the Mach e is using the latest version of Blue Cruise)
The inward camera detection does work well - simply use the screen or look in a specific direction long enough and it will get mad and tell you to pay attention. This vision system is vastly better than the wheel torque. Guys that Subaru and lane change was 100% fine - freaked over nothing. The parking lot issue is a known 12.5.5 build issue and drifting - mostly related to the truck and this version.
It's called driver monitoring system (DMS) and ironically the Tesla implementation of it is probably the worst (or more basic) version of it out there amongst all the main brand OEMs. It wasn't long ago they didn't even use IR sensors, so it was completely useless at night 😆
I use FSD in my Model 3 often. There are some things it can improve on, but after using it for a while you get to know what those situations are and take over for them. By letting the vehicle act as your copilot, there is less work involved than driving a normal vehicle. As the system continues to improve for the edge cases, less and less work is required by me.
@@hoffmantnt I’m mainly referring to the fact that he didn’t know the steering wheel nag had gone away, but yeah it’s the first mass market street-by-wire car period so of course it’s the first of its kind to get ADAS.
The way his hands hovered over the wheel to take over made me think it might be his first drive. I was like that too on my first drive until you realize….its amazing and you can just supervise and it will be fine.
I got rid of my model Y a few years ago because I thought it was going to kill me while using FSD. I came back due to the charging network, but in a model S and I have been very impressed with FSD this time around. I do feel like I need to take over on occasion and I don’t think the new “natural speed” feature works that well, yet. But, overall, it’s really quite impressive. My wife still won’t use it, but I like it and it’s now become a feature that I miss when driving our non-Teslas (Jeep and pick-up). Not perfect, but pretty darn good.
As someone who uses FSD in the city daily, it would have gone around that disabled car and then gotten back into the right lane. That's why it wasn't fully getting into the middle lane after going around that car. Another tip, try swiping the FSD visualization to the right edge to make it full screen. Looks amazing and helps to see what the car is seeing while also making it easier to select parking spots for auto park.
Yes exactly, and btw I as well was waiting for the moment they sweep the screen right but they never did! 😁 But this video was very valuable for me anyway as it shows genuinely how non-tester ordinary drivers with zero expectations are perceiving their first miles with FSD.
I'm not sure you needed that first disengagement, but I understand why you did it. I can say my Tesla also has trouble turning into parking-lots similar to what you saw at the McDonalds
I agree. These people that don’t use FSD enough don’t realize how well it can handle these tough situations. You need to let it go. It will not crash. And if you disengage and then just reengage again
When they switched to eye tracking, they dropped the steering wheel torque sensing. FSD has gotten pretty good but it does screw up occasionally and sometimes it's a bad screwup. It's also two steps forward one step back with each release. I've been using it heavily for a year. I've owned FSD for five years but it only became usable at the end of last year and version 12 was a huge step forward. That said there are some things that it can't handle, construction is one thing, packed rotaries are another. Non rush hour rotaries are fine. In the two steps forward one step back vein. 12.5.3 had a problem with exits, it would get to an exit, change its mind and veer away, then try to correct although it was usually too late. That was fixed in 12.5.4 but a new problem was introduced which was phantom breaking for on coming headlights. Hopefully that will be fixed in the next release. You have 12.5.5 which is for Cybertruck only. Other cars might not get that release. There are new releases every few weeks. I suspect that the Cybertruck releases and the main releases will be out of sync for a while. Eventually they will converge.
I can't see how sitting there on a hair trigger poised to instantly take control at any moment is any less stressful than simply driving the thing like a normal car. I see the value on the open highway but having thousands of Tesla drivers beta testing a sketchy system in congested urban traffic is nuts.
Andre's comment about the dog not being seen, is a legitimate observation. Dogs, cats, deer, etc... do jump out and cross roads without an owner nearby. Not sure why Tommy felt it was a silly comment from Andre. So that makes me question what the Cybertruck will do if an animal only is seen.
The visualization doesn’t show everything the car sees. The fact that it doesn’t show it doesn’t mean it didn’t see it. I had cases where there was a tiny squirrel on the road, visualization did not show it but the car slowed down and navigated around it.
I do not believe that what it shows on the screen drives what the car does anymore. So it won't run over most things taller than a foot as long as it is visible.
Last couple of months I had ZERO safety intervention. I use FSD on any drive that’s more than 5 minutes and the only mistakes it had was choosing the wrong lane which would have cost 2-3 minutes longer. V12.5 is AMAZING. In many cases it’s more vigilant and aware of surroundings than drivers - had several cases where I didn’t notice something and was surprised it slowed down only to realize there was a bicycle rider semi hidden around a car - and it noticed it before I did. Amazing system and getting close to unsupervised and Robotaxi capability (especially if they tweak navigation to go around problematic intersections - like UPS/FedEx do with their delivery navigation systems)
Turn on auto-speed offset in autopilot section. Also you don't need to put your hands on the wheel with the vision attention. It will only ask if you start touching the screen or look away for to long. Also detects cell phones.
6:23 As long as it sees you looking at the road and paying attention, it will never ask you to put your hands on the squircle. It is completely hands free now.
I’m throughly impressed. Not into the whole self driving or electric vehicles for myself, but think it’s super impressive that it’s able to do all that it did. Even if you did have to turn into a parking lot or get over more to feel comfortable enough passing the broken down vehicle.
Good video, but you forgot to turn on the auto speeds Off set. You know how you complained that the cars were accelerating away from you. Auto speed offset Will automatically Set speed. Depending on the cars around you. So, if they go a little faster, It will Increase your max speed automatically. Try it in the next video.
My wife's been using v12 FSD in her car for months now, on most of her commutes in model 3. I am not terribly confident in it, but I have to admit it gets incrementally better every few months. We'll use it for our 3,000 mile round trip to Arizona this winter. The worst part is needing to nudge the steering wheel constantly, but not too much, but not too little - very annoying. If it can change to just monitoring attention with cameras like in this video that would be a huge improvement.
Interesting how TFL is so far behind in this test then. And you answered my QT. Is this already available for a Model 3.(would seem logical that it would have already been) Perhaps your software just needs an update to perform like this cyber truck did here? To not need a "nudge"? Report back here and let us know. Thanks for sharing!
@@LetsDrive-bt3bc you may be correct. wife says as much in recent weeks. I just don't let her use it when I am in the car lol. She is also set on getting a Cybertruck which is something we do not need and I could find better things to spend 150k on. But if she does get it I want this US flag wrap to flaunt in my left coast Canadian city lol.
I've been using FSD in my M3 and MX since it was introduced and now have it in my CyberTruck. You panicked and grabbed the wheel before the CT could safely maneuver around the stalled car (and it would have!). Not a criticism of you, it's just that, like anything new, you have to get comfortable with it. After you drive it for a while and learn to trust it, you will then have a better feel for when you need to take over. It's called FSD "Supervised" for a reason.
you guys made a lot of good points in the video. I just wanted to clarify, the steer by wire has nothing to do with the performances of the latest FSD software versions. The actual big improvement happened earlier this year when Tesla switched completely from line coding the software to using 100% neural networks, just like chat gpt does. the cars learn by watching millions of hours of videos and that's why it's now so smooth. They'll release automatic parking and revers in a few weeks too, meaning you'll be able to exit a parking lot, do 100% of the trip autonomously and arrive at the destination with the car choosing a parking spot and parking itself. P.s. in a week Tesla will unveil their new robotaxi vehicle/platform. Exciting times ahead
2:14 It will only ask you to touch the wheel if it finds you are not paying attention to the road. If you are paying attention, you can be completely hands of for your entire drive.
If you turn on the automatic speed offset on an auto pilot settings it should automatically go head on react to speed of other Vehicles and road conditions 3:44
It is a nice feature that Tesla depicts what the vehicle sees while driving. If that was not on the screen blood pressure would be through the roof. As it is, sitting and letting the car drive itself is still anxiety producing. Not natural. It will be a long time before these systems are truly safe and trouble free. Auto braking, lane keeping, blind spot monitors, cross traffic alert, dynamic radar cruise control, etc. are all great. That's where the line in the sand should be until these "self driving" systems are more mature.
You’re actually correct that it’s done for the sake of the the human driver. That’s not how the car drives at all. In fact the FSD computer isn’t even the visualization computer. FSD is based on translating camera input in to mathematical vectors and object memory and prediction. It’s a computer and interprets the world as math. The visualization is purely for human sake
I just got version 12.5.4 this week and I feel like it's a great update compared to the earlier versions. Primarily the lack of steering wheel nags! I can keep my sunglasses on and not have to tell the car I'm still paying attention. I most recently drove over 12 miles without a single notification saying to put torque on the steering wheel.
Your concern about the car in the road and disengagement was completely unnecessary. It looks like this is your first FSD drive? It would have done fine because FSD in the Teslas already handles this fine.
i love my autopilot 2.5 on the highway. its 8 year old technology and it does great. I thought about buying FSD but the stress of watching FSD in the city makes it a waste when even 8 year old technology does as well on long drives.
Tesla is so far above everyone when it comes to software and charging infrastructure, it's worth putting up with a few build quality issues that usually can be fixed later anyway.
13:42 I will say that is an improvement over some of the older versions I have seen. now to be fair this wasn't really a stress test for the system. it's day time, the road marking were pretty good, and there wasn't any weather that could obstruct the car. also, Tesla recently became the largest buyer of lidar systems as far as ADAS is concerned. so despite what Tesla says, you might want to check and make sure your CT doesn't have that.
I agree that the CT would have gotten around the Subaru fine if you let it do it's thing. However, CT FSD 12.5.5 is rough around the edges. It sometimes chooses lanes incorrectly, can miss turns and is a little rough on stopping and turning. As a first release it is great. but needs more work. 6 months from now it should be amazing.
Take the truck through a construction zone and see if the truck recognizes traffic cones and barrels. But that's a test TFL can do on a close section of road
Cool demonstration guys. I'd be curious to see how it does on many Colorado roads that have little to no painted lines. Also, what it does on snow covered roads or where it's actually snowing and the whole front of the car is covered in a layer of snow and ice. Also, what would it do if a lane is closed for construction or where there is a worker with a stop/go sign. Funny thing is, automated driving is supposed to be relaxing but you guys were more stressed out than if you'd been driving it normally. (I live in Colorado so I know the roads we'll.)
@@11abhishek11You can find videos in places where it doesn't work either. Also, it does not work in the pitch dark since the cameras require light and the cameras can degrade from rain enough to disable FSD.
Hey tommy and andre, try to set the FSD system to auto speed offset which will determine correct speed on different type of roads. Also, this is a hands free system like GM supercruise but includes city driving as well. That means it is essentialally hands free system allbeit you still have to pay attention to the road. @13:19 don't dissengage FSD if the vehicle is going around the dissabled vehicle. The truck would've done that without crashing into that subaru in front.
Also for journalists, I feel that you should read up on fsd more. Idk if it's part of the act. But you can have fsd match traffic speed and the vision based monitoring said so on the screen...
FSD won't ask you to touch any of the controls unless it thinks you're not paying attention. If you look at your phone or fall asleep, or even get groggy, it'll alert you.
It watches your eyes and hands. Only if it thinks you’re not paying attention will it ask you to acknowledge that you are paying attention by touching the steering wheel and look forward.
Hey great video I watch other TH-camrs that do fsd videos fsd right now as long as your Tesla has the cabin camera there is no longer steering wheel nag so you never have to touch the wheel while in fsd also fsd in my opinion is by far the best self driving system out there no other car manufacturers can do the same & I don’t own a Tesla lol maybe soon I will
Wow. I have always viewed Tesla as overpromising and underdelivering, but this seems very good! BTW, it uses vision based driver attention monitoring and will ask for hands on wheel if it doesn't think that you are paying attention. (I think!)
FSD is getting there. Have it in my Model Y since 2020 and there has been a constant, gradual improvement. From what I see, the level 4 autonomy is getting closer and closer. Not sure about the legal side of the question though. And let’s be frank. The Tesla drove you to McDonalds. At least you can get yourself to the drive through or the parking spot…
It will be level 3 first in some contexts and then incrementally into other domains. I think 2-5 years before fully autonomous. But I would feel comfortable sleeping on my way to work…it’s already consistently that good for me.
Congrats, Guys! All that waiting paid off. Now the Cybertruck has a brain and can drive itself, making it the most advanced pickup on the planet. It's light years ahead of its direct competitors like the Rivian R1T, Ford 150 Lightning, Silverado EV, and Hammer EV. Those all feel like ancient, outdated vehicles now. And don't even get me started on gas-powered trucks - they're like something out of the Flintstones! Haha.
Seems obvious to me that state and federal regulators should come up with criteria for evaluating, and test the autonomous features and reviewers like you should say that and talk about whether and how they meet or don't meet those criteria.
I (apprehensively) tried my Cybertruck self driving out yesterday. Short trips to start. Kind of cool...BUT then it tried to take me down a fully, legitimately closed construction street. Not new construction. This street has been closed for about a year. Then I accidentally hit the self drive switch on the way to work. It took over, and started talking me...where? I did NOT have a navigation point entered. I let it go for about a block and took control back when it turned a corner heading away from work. I wondered if it would head toward Area 51...
Impressive. IDC about inner city driving. But with this level of complex variables working, it should be extremely confident on a highway with stop and go traffic. Where you can have your feet off the pedals and of course the steering wheel. Which is the true point for me personally. I suppose inner city like this was a good 1st test. But you should set up your own test parameters. Find a very large parking lot and set up a course to navigate it around to get out of the parking lot. With cones. Mimic what it might be like during a busy shopping parking lot scenario or ball game parking lot. You have a few video opportunities with this.
0:36 I despise this take so much. Your opinion fails to understand how this technology works. They cannot simply copy/paste from the other cars over to the CT. It needed training data, which was harder to come by with so few on the roads. That takes time for collection and training. If you wanted it on day 1, you could have waited to buy your CT until it was finally available. You agreed before purchase that you were buying it without some features (FSD) included on day 1. It was a choice YOU made. So please stop whining about it.
And again, having driven FSD for so many miles I can tell you it absolutely would have gone around that Subaru clearing it and then getting back into the right lane. No intervention was necessary. It happens all the time and ever since version 12 FSD is done that type ofunexpected maneuver perfectly.
I was going to comment the same thing. Only thing it has problems sometimes with is getting and out of turning lanes. Even then it does it, just changes over at the last possible second.
They do not trust computers. This will take a generation. I do, but then i am obviously much younger with my 59 years...
agreed not a difficcult scenario at all for the current build
that disengagement was unnecessary but it worked sooo good
Andre is so good natured through the sometimes condescending sarcasm he gets
He is both Tommy, and his dad can be a bit too much...
Andre is by far my favorite. Like Tommy and his dad too, all good journalists. But Andre cracks me up sometimes
@@YuenanCao A Russian bear😀
Yeah, this happens a lot
Arrogance of the boss's child showing through.... Not exactly a gentleman IMO....
Not sure why you guys are so surprised. We have been saying this system is legit for quite some time. Also you didn’t have to take over with the disabled car. It had it.
Turn on the auto speed limit in the settings and it will follow the speed limits a bit more naturally. This latest build of FSD has the eye tracking (signified by the green dot on the screen while active), really a gamechanger imo.
Works awesome on my truck. I’m very happy with it.
Good to hear!
@@TFLEV Dude how do you not know about HANDS-FREE FSD. I expected at least the younger one to be on top of the latest auto tech.
@@11abhishek11 yeahh they supposed to be car guys, mabe stuck in the perception that mercedes has the best driver system, legacy media told them. 😁
Why are they surprised that it didn't ask them to touch the steering wheel? It literally says it's using vision based attention monitoring, not pressure based. Elon said that 12.5 is the first version where u do not have to touch the wheel, at all.
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Oh my goodness this video was so much fun to watch. I have been using full self driving since 2018, through all the dark years, through all the doubting years, I have literally driven over 100,000 miles using full self driving. So I forgot what it’s like when some people Realize for the very first time with Tesla has done and become believers :-) yes, FST is for real, it can see dear and dogs. (I live on a dirt road in the cold state of Maine, so I know all about it) and FST is for real.
JEALOUS! Every day I drive 11 miles on a very straight interstate in Iowa (I-80) and my Mach e disengages Blue Cruise twice... every day... (Yes the Mach e is using the latest version of Blue Cruise)
I switched from Blue Cruise to comma3x and found it works much better and doesn’t have the $500 annual fee.
Trade it for a model y. Issue solved.
The inward camera detection does work well - simply use the screen or look in a specific direction long enough and it will get mad and tell you to pay attention. This vision system is vastly better than the wheel torque.
Guys that Subaru and lane change was 100% fine - freaked over nothing.
The parking lot issue is a known 12.5.5 build issue and drifting - mostly related to the truck and this version.
It would have done it fine but it should bias a bit further away
It's called driver monitoring system (DMS) and ironically the Tesla implementation of it is probably the worst (or more basic) version of it out there amongst all the main brand OEMs. It wasn't long ago they didn't even use IR sensors, so it was completely useless at night 😆
I use FSD in my Model 3 often. There are some things it can improve on, but after using it for a while you get to know what those situations are and take over for them. By letting the vehicle act as your copilot, there is less work involved than driving a normal vehicle. As the system continues to improve for the edge cases, less and less work is required by me.
Where have you guys been? FSD has been driving this well and better for a long time.
Seriously. It’s been that way for months. Guess they are too busy testing boring ICE vehicles.
Tommy correctly said that no steer by wire vehicles have been doing this. Cybertruck just got FSD.
@@hoffmantnt I’m mainly referring to the fact that he didn’t know the steering wheel nag had gone away, but yeah it’s the first mass market street-by-wire car period so of course it’s the first of its kind to get ADAS.
The way his hands hovered over the wheel to take over made me think it might be his first drive. I was like that too on my first drive until you realize….its amazing and you can just supervise and it will be fine.
they almost died nearly hitting that parked car.
I got rid of my model Y a few years ago because I thought it was going to kill me while using FSD. I came back due to the charging network, but in a model S and I have been very impressed with FSD this time around. I do feel like I need to take over on occasion and I don’t think the new “natural speed” feature works that well, yet. But, overall, it’s really quite impressive. My wife still won’t use it, but I like it and it’s now become a feature that I miss when driving our non-Teslas (Jeep and pick-up). Not perfect, but pretty darn good.
As someone who uses FSD in the city daily, it would have gone around that disabled car and then gotten back into the right lane. That's why it wasn't fully getting into the middle lane after going around that car. Another tip, try swiping the FSD visualization to the right edge to make it full screen. Looks amazing and helps to see what the car is seeing while also making it easier to select parking spots for auto park.
Yes exactly, and btw I as well was waiting for the moment they sweep the screen right but they never did! 😁
But this video was very valuable for me anyway as it shows genuinely how non-tester ordinary drivers with zero expectations are perceiving their first miles with FSD.
I'm not sure you needed that first disengagement, but I understand why you did it. I can say my Tesla also has trouble turning into parking-lots similar to what you saw at the McDonalds
It would have handled it fine
First intervention was absolutely unnecessary
Yeah, the Tesla was going around the disabled car just fine. The only issue was pulling into the McDonalds.
I agree. These people that don’t use FSD enough don’t realize how well it can handle these tough situations. You need to let it go. It will not crash. And if you disengage and then just reengage again
When they switched to eye tracking, they dropped the steering wheel torque sensing.
FSD has gotten pretty good but it does screw up occasionally and sometimes it's a bad screwup. It's also two steps forward one step back with each release.
I've been using it heavily for a year. I've owned FSD for five years but it only became usable at the end of last year and version 12 was a huge step forward.
That said there are some things that it can't handle, construction is one thing, packed rotaries are another. Non rush hour rotaries are fine.
In the two steps forward one step back vein. 12.5.3 had a problem with exits, it would get to an exit, change its mind and veer away, then try to correct although it was usually too late. That was fixed in 12.5.4 but a new problem was introduced which was phantom breaking for on coming headlights. Hopefully that will be fixed in the next release. You have 12.5.5 which is for Cybertruck only. Other cars might not get that release. There are new releases every few weeks. I suspect that the Cybertruck releases and the main releases will be out of sync for a while. Eventually they will converge.
Andre had absolutely 0 expectations 😂
I can't see how sitting there on a hair trigger poised to instantly take control at any moment is any less stressful than simply driving the thing like a normal car. I see the value on the open highway but having thousands of Tesla drivers beta testing a sketchy system in congested urban traffic is nuts.
FSD doesn’t require hand on wheel anymore.
Andre's comment about the dog not being seen, is a legitimate observation. Dogs, cats, deer, etc... do jump out and cross roads without an owner nearby. Not sure why Tommy felt it was a silly comment from Andre. So that makes me question what the Cybertruck will do if an animal only is seen.
The visualization doesn’t show everything the car sees. The fact that it doesn’t show it doesn’t mean it didn’t see it. I had cases where there was a tiny squirrel on the road, visualization did not show it but the car slowed down and navigated around it.
Yeah, still gotta pay attention.
I do not believe that what it shows on the screen drives what the car does anymore. So it won't run over most things taller than a foot as long as it is visible.
I can confirm it stop for squirrels. And yes, the visualization is not what the AI model actually sees.
I was thinking the same thing !!
Last couple of months I had ZERO safety intervention. I use FSD on any drive that’s more than 5 minutes and the only mistakes it had was choosing the wrong lane which would have cost 2-3 minutes longer. V12.5 is AMAZING. In many cases it’s more vigilant and aware of surroundings than drivers - had several cases where I didn’t notice something and was surprised it slowed down only to realize there was a bicycle rider semi hidden around a car - and it noticed it before I did. Amazing system and getting close to unsupervised and Robotaxi capability (especially if they tweak navigation to go around problematic intersections - like UPS/FedEx do with their delivery navigation systems)
I’m not really a fan of all this new technology stuff but that was actually quite impressive
Turn on auto-speed offset in autopilot section. Also you don't need to put your hands on the wheel with the vision attention. It will only ask if you start touching the screen or look away for to long. Also detects cell phones.
Your truck is very, very patriotic!
Very impressive! I hope the other OEM's are taking notes. Waymo has nothing on Tesla FSD...
I Think Tesla Have Finally Nailed It,This is superb,thanks guys 👍😉💪
And this is just the beginning (beta)
Yeah by missing the dog. What a milestone 😂
6:23 As long as it sees you looking at the road and paying attention, it will never ask you to put your hands on the squircle. It is completely hands free now.
I’m throughly impressed. Not into the whole self driving or electric vehicles for myself, but think it’s super impressive that it’s able to do all that it did. Even if you did have to turn into a parking lot or get over more to feel comfortable enough passing the broken down vehicle.
They didnt have to. FSD would have done it no problem.
And get this: a tesla from 2017 can do this aswell.
This is the future. Can't wait to get my Cybertruck.
It’s really really awesome!
Good video, but you forgot to turn on the auto speeds Off set. You know how you complained that the cars were accelerating away from you. Auto speed offset Will automatically Set speed. Depending on the cars around you. So, if they go a little faster, It will Increase your max speed automatically. Try it in the next video.
Amazing! Self-driving cars are just around the corner!
My wife's been using v12 FSD in her car for months now, on most of her commutes in model 3. I am not terribly confident in it, but I have to admit it gets incrementally better every few months. We'll use it for our 3,000 mile round trip to Arizona this winter. The worst part is needing to nudge the steering wheel constantly, but not too much, but not too little - very annoying. If it can change to just monitoring attention with cameras like in this video that would be a huge improvement.
Interesting how TFL is so far behind in this test then. And you answered my QT. Is this already available for a Model 3.(would seem logical that it would have already been) Perhaps your software just needs an update to perform like this cyber truck did here? To not need a "nudge"? Report back here and let us know. Thanks for sharing!
I have a 23 model y with fsd I'm on version 12.5 4 and I don't have to nudge the steering wheel I believe they did away with that on version 12.5
@@LetsDrive-bt3bc you may be correct. wife says as much in recent weeks. I just don't let her use it when I am in the car lol. She is also set on getting a Cybertruck which is something we do not need and I could find better things to spend 150k on. But if she does get it I want this US flag wrap to flaunt in my left coast Canadian city lol.
@@WW-wf8tuteslas from 2017 and up are capable of this, although they need to have fsd purchased or a subscription to use it.
I've been using FSD in my M3 and MX since it was introduced and now have it in my CyberTruck. You panicked and grabbed the wheel before the CT could safely maneuver around the stalled car (and it would have!). Not a criticism of you, it's just that, like anything new, you have to get comfortable with it. After you drive it for a while and learn to trust it, you will then have a better feel for when you need to take over. It's called FSD "Supervised" for a reason.
you guys made a lot of good points in the video. I just wanted to clarify, the steer by wire has nothing to do with the performances of the latest FSD software versions. The actual big improvement happened earlier this year when Tesla switched completely from line coding the software to using 100% neural networks, just like chat gpt does. the cars learn by watching millions of hours of videos and that's why it's now so smooth. They'll release automatic parking and revers in a few weeks too, meaning you'll be able to exit a parking lot, do 100% of the trip autonomously and arrive at the destination with the car choosing a parking spot and parking itself. P.s. in a week Tesla will unveil their new robotaxi vehicle/platform. Exciting times ahead
2:14 It will only ask you to touch the wheel if it finds you are not paying attention to the road. If you are paying attention, you can be completely hands of for your entire drive.
If you turn on the automatic speed offset on an auto pilot settings it should automatically go head on react to speed of other
Vehicles and road conditions
3:44
It is a nice feature that Tesla depicts what the vehicle sees while driving. If that was not on the screen blood pressure would be through the roof. As it is, sitting and letting the car drive itself is still anxiety producing. Not natural. It will be a long time before these systems are truly safe and trouble free. Auto braking, lane keeping, blind spot monitors, cross traffic alert, dynamic radar cruise control, etc. are all great. That's where the line in the sand should be until these "self driving" systems are more mature.
You relax when you understand the capability of the system better. Within few drives.
You’re actually correct that it’s done for the sake of the the human driver. That’s not how the car drives at all. In fact the FSD computer isn’t even the visualization computer. FSD is based on translating camera input in to mathematical vectors and object memory and prediction. It’s a computer and interprets the world as math. The visualization is purely for human sake
They are not 100% safe and trouble free. But I would say they are pretty close to being better than the average driver already. But that is low bar.
Add this to the list of cars I'll never be able to afford but find really cool.
It would cost half the price in 18 months. Start saving today
The model 3 has the same tech and starts at under 40k
It will go 25 mph in a school zone on Sunday at 10pm pissing everyone behind you off trying to get home.
Just tap the accelerator
5:46 Note: you can slide that visualization pane over to the right so it will go full screen. This is the way.
im with roman with that tape
Great video! Loved watching you learn FSD! Very smooth!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You never needed to take over, you're just not used to it,
I just got version 12.5.4 this week and I feel like it's a great update compared to the earlier versions. Primarily the lack of steering wheel nags! I can keep my sunglasses on and not have to tell the car I'm still paying attention. I most recently drove over 12 miles without a single notification saying to put torque on the steering wheel.
Your concern about the car in the road and disengagement was completely unnecessary. It looks like this is your first FSD drive? It would have done fine because FSD in the Teslas already handles this fine.
i love my autopilot 2.5 on the highway. its 8 year old technology and it does great. I thought about buying FSD but the stress of watching FSD in the city makes it a waste when even 8 year old technology does as well on long drives.
I love how nervous Andrey was :))
Yes winter!
I want to see FSD in snowstorms and on black ice….and one lane dirt roads in the mountains.
Prob still work since it drives on dirt roads and even in grass
Tesla is so far above everyone when it comes to software and charging infrastructure, it's worth putting up with a few build quality issues that usually can be fixed later anyway.
Build quality is not paramount as long as car is overall reliable
and putting up with the notzee stuff
@@steelyspielbergoTesla’s are….notzee? They are made in the US. Do you mean BMW?
@@aguyfromnothere I mean the CEO
@@steelyspielbergo Not wanting illegals flooding the country is notzee, ok buddy.
13:42 I will say that is an improvement over some of the older versions I have seen.
now to be fair this wasn't really a stress test for the system. it's day time, the road marking were pretty good, and there wasn't any weather that could obstruct the car.
also, Tesla recently became the largest buyer of lidar systems as far as ADAS is concerned. so despite what Tesla says, you might want to check and make sure your CT doesn't have that.
I agree that the CT would have gotten around the Subaru fine if you let it do it's thing. However, CT FSD 12.5.5 is rough around the edges. It sometimes chooses lanes incorrectly, can miss turns and is a little rough on stopping and turning. As a first release it is great. but needs more work. 6 months from now it should be amazing.
Take the truck through a construction zone and see if the truck recognizes traffic cones and barrels. But that's a test TFL can do on a close section of road
Cool demonstration guys. I'd be curious to see how it does on many Colorado roads that have little to no painted lines. Also, what it does on snow covered roads or where it's actually snowing and the whole front of the car is covered in a layer of snow and ice.
Also, what would it do if a lane is closed for construction or where there is a worker with a stop/go sign.
Funny thing is, automated driving is supposed to be relaxing but you guys were more stressed out than if you'd been driving it normally.
(I live in Colorado so I know the roads we'll.)
It works everywhere just fine; on ice, without lane lines, in heavy rain, in pitch dark. Just search on TH-cam and you ll get it.
@@11abhishek11 thanks for the search advice 🤦 I was hoping we'd see the TFL guys test it.
@@11abhishek11You can find videos in places where it doesn't work either. Also, it does not work in the pitch dark since the cameras require light and the cameras can degrade from rain enough to disable FSD.
Hey tommy and andre, try to set the FSD system to auto speed offset which will determine correct speed on different type of roads. Also, this is a hands free system like GM supercruise but includes city driving as well. That means it is essentialally hands free system allbeit you still have to pay attention to the road. @13:19 don't dissengage FSD if the vehicle is going around the dissabled vehicle. The truck would've done that without crashing into that subaru in front.
13:17 Gotta take over when you're not comfy, but I wouldn't have in that scenario. It did just fine.
Also for journalists, I feel that you should read up on fsd more. Idk if it's part of the act. But you can have fsd match traffic speed and the vision based monitoring said so on the screen...
FSD won't ask you to touch any of the controls unless it thinks you're not paying attention. If you look at your phone or fall asleep, or even get groggy, it'll alert you.
It watches your eyes and hands. Only if it thinks you’re not paying attention will it ask you to acknowledge that you are paying attention by touching the steering wheel and look forward.
Good job, Great video !
Hey great video I watch other TH-camrs that do fsd videos fsd right now as long as your Tesla has the cabin camera there is no longer steering wheel nag so you never have to touch the wheel while in fsd also fsd in my opinion is by far the best self driving system out there no other car manufacturers can do the same & I don’t own a Tesla lol maybe soon I will
Regarding the Subaru:
As a part of life, there are some people that drive their cars… until the wheels fall off. 😅
Wow. I have always viewed Tesla as overpromising and underdelivering, but this seems very good! BTW, it uses vision based driver attention monitoring and will ask for hands on wheel if it doesn't think that you are paying attention. (I think!)
I'm just as scared as Andre and I'm sitting at home 😂
I came to the comments to see all the Cybertruck haters, but I did not find them.
I know every time you see my posts…. Oooh gawd he’s going to want a winter component, but Andre said it first
FSD is getting there. Have it in my Model Y since 2020 and there has been a constant, gradual improvement. From what I see, the level 4 autonomy is getting closer and closer. Not sure about the legal side of the question though. And let’s be frank. The Tesla drove you to McDonalds. At least you can get yourself to the drive through or the parking spot…
It will be level 3 first in some contexts and then incrementally into other domains. I think 2-5 years before fully autonomous. But I would feel comfortable sleeping on my way to work…it’s already consistently that good for me.
@@aguyfromnothereWhy would Tesla ever take liability?
Good morning, TFL!
It did really well. I don't think a disengagement was required. That's where it was out of
Congrats, Guys! All that waiting paid off. Now the Cybertruck has a brain and can drive itself, making it the most advanced pickup on the planet. It's light years ahead of its direct competitors like the Rivian R1T, Ford 150 Lightning, Silverado EV, and Hammer EV. Those all feel like ancient, outdated vehicles now. And don't even get me started on gas-powered trucks - they're like something out of the Flintstones! Haha.
Boulder parking lots tougher test than blizzard on 70 😂
Can’t take the software dev out of the Andre 🤣🤣🤣
You guys are going to have to do this video every couple weeks as the FSD releases keep coming.
Hopefully Tesla solves the phantom braking problem. It scared the heck out of me a few times while traveling on highways.
It worked AMAZINGLY well...until you unnecessarily took over 🤣🤣🤣
ME OVER HERE DRIVING MY 2010 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN WITH 220,000 MILES 😂😂😂😂
THIS IS WILD
Same in my 06 Escape with 250k
Seems obvious to me that state and federal regulators should come up with criteria for evaluating, and test the autonomous features and reviewers like you should say that and talk about whether and how they meet or don't meet those criteria.
I (apprehensively) tried my Cybertruck self driving out yesterday. Short trips to start. Kind of cool...BUT then it tried to take me down a fully, legitimately closed construction street. Not new construction. This street has been closed for about a year. Then I accidentally hit the self drive switch on the way to work. It took over, and started talking me...where? I did NOT have a navigation point entered. I let it go for about a block and took control back when it turned a corner heading away from work. I wondered if it would head toward Area 51...
I came to the conclusion that the cyber truck just needs a good paint job to look good
You should test FSD while towing up the IKE
Doesnt enable while towing, at least currently.
“We covered the interior camera because Roman didn’t want Elon Musk creeping on him” lol
Well done two bosses thank goodness your safe.
Just amazing
As a motorcycle rider, I do not want this thing behind me.
Impressive. IDC about inner city driving. But with this level of complex variables working, it should be extremely confident on a highway with stop and go traffic. Where you can have your feet off the pedals and of course the steering wheel. Which is the true point for me personally. I suppose inner city like this was a good 1st test. But you should set up your own test parameters. Find a very large parking lot and set up a course to navigate it around to get out of the parking lot. With cones. Mimic what it might be like during a busy shopping parking lot scenario or ball game parking lot. You have a few video opportunities with this.
Monitoring the FSD seems more stressful than just driving normally
If its your first time yes when your use to it you cant live without it 😂
You should take it tot the DMV and see if it can pass the behind the wheel test.
You pulled the first video while I was watching . . . Rude! I much prefer Kase to Andre!!!
That subaru was probably built by the same team as the soltara
Tesla Cyber truck about to rack up a high KDR on Police & Firemen. 💥💥
Is this video sponsored by McDonald’s
No Tesla!
FSD 12.5 works at night in the rain.
They should have let it go around the Subaru on its own, it definitely was going to.
You bought the truck knowing this.
0:36 I despise this take so much. Your opinion fails to understand how this technology works. They cannot simply copy/paste from the other cars over to the CT. It needed training data, which was harder to come by with so few on the roads. That takes time for collection and training. If you wanted it on day 1, you could have waited to buy your CT until it was finally available. You agreed before purchase that you were buying it without some features (FSD) included on day 1. It was a choice YOU made. So please stop whining about it.
TFL deleting comments it does not like.... What we call "pusssssiiiiiieeeeesssss...." 🤣
Looking at the title, I’ll take option “B”
I wish it came soon to Europe too.
Tesla is so far ahead in the software game it's unreal
The s class can’t even stop at traffic lights.
My Model Y with FSD shows people walking their dogs on the monitor. I guess your system might need camera calibration.