Why Was This Runway Overrun So Deadly? (TAM Airlines Flight 3054) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

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    • @mitchellrossitto1310
      @mitchellrossitto1310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do Scandinavian airlines flight 686

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do 1996 Air Africa crash. There were more ground casualties than any crash other than 9/11.

    • @moviemad56
      @moviemad56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant editing Anthony. Thank you.

    • @squ1dd13
      @squ1dd13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did you mean to pin this comment?

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Disaster... Just a pro tip... We would call the runway "one seven three five" or "one seven left three five right" all in one phrase when we are referring to the piece of pavement as a whole. Example "Tower had airplanes stacked all the way down foyr left two two right." . And we just consider it a single runway. Thats coming from a captain in the States anyway.
      Great vids!

  • @nivaldoss2
    @nivaldoss2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    It's worth noting that well before landing, the pilots contacted Tam and told their supervisors they weren't feeling safe about landing at Congonhas due the heavy rain on that night, one of the thrust reverse was deactivated and, on top of that, the short runway at Congonhas. They requested to divert to Guarulhos International Airport, a more adequate and well equipped airport, 40km away from Congonhas.
    Their requested was declined because of all the troubles Tam would have to transport all the passengers to Congonhas.

    • @5thdawg917
      @5thdawg917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Boy sure I hope their families sued tam big time for that

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That really gets my goat. I sure hope that they are regretting that on a daily basis.

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@5thdawg917 In SA? Good luck with that.

    • @Diegobrinter
      @Diegobrinter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I really like both airports, but the thing is, even with all the problems Congonhas had, this accident was still caused mainly due to human incompetence. If both engines were switched to idle, the plane would have stopped in time.

    • @MovieMakingMan
      @MovieMakingMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I guess they figured transporting 170 dead bodies was easier. The pilots should have ignored them and flown over that dangerous, poorly maintained airport. It’s disturbing how many airports are located in the middle high density populations. And it’s also maddening how developers are allowed to build so close to airports. I wish in a lot of these accidents they’d list greed as one of the causes, if not the primary cause in some accidents.

  • @WendelSchelhan
    @WendelSchelhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    There are two issues that I would like to point out that were not mentioned in this video:
    1- Plane had more fuel than usual for a flight like that, due to tax reasons. Fuel is affected by state aliquots in Brazil, and the state of Rio Grande do Sul had cheaper fuel at time when compared to São Paulo, which led to the decision to refuel prior to the flight. That naturally made the plane heavier and harder to stop;
    2- The fuel issue, along with a heavily crowded flight and heavy rain, led the pilot to adopt an older throttles positioning since it would save between 50 to 100 meters of runway when compared to the newer. As we know, he forgot to set the second throttle to idle, which made the plane "confused" since there were both landing and take-off inputs at the same time. Ironically, if he stayed on both throttles to reverse like newer recommendation, the accident probably would never had happened.

  • @kevin6293
    @kevin6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    This crash interests me because the airport location looks like something I’d do in SimCity without planning ahead.

    • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
      @SuperNuclearUnicorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Lol that's just Brazil in general then

    • @geraldo209
      @geraldo209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      When congonhas was made, it didnt stay in themiddle of the city.

    • @carloseduardolefosse3015
      @carloseduardolefosse3015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      The city just grew exponentially after ww2 with immigrants and emmigrants from all places. No one predicted that it would turn into the biggest city of the *American continent* so quickly in a way that it would surround the airport, that was VERY far away from everything when it started lol

    • @saladasss2092
      @saladasss2092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@carloseduardolefosse3015 they could still buy some properties at the start or the end of the line and expand it a little more or rebuild the street next to the runway

    • @sarahcoleman3125
      @sarahcoleman3125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure I've seen people use an asset that looks just like that. XD

  • @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz
    @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This one hits very close to home in many ways. My grandma used to live just minutes away from the airport. While I was not at home that day, she called me crying her heart out that "another plane" crashed and she heard the boom. (The another one she mentioned was also a tam flight that crashed nearby in the 90's) I had to get past the wreckage in my way back home. It was honestly the worst thing I've ever saw. Rip everyone on board. (I also refuse to get on a plane off or to congonhas still :|)

    • @DOUGL4S1
      @DOUGL4S1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      My house was about 800m away from the airport, I was 7yrs old and still remember that night. I was playing on the family computer and my parents were watching TV, when we heard a loud boom. It being a rainy night, we tought a lightning had struck near our house, but minutes later national TV was showing live coverage of the crash, and we could see the glow of the fire from our street.
      We passed by the crash site the next day. By then it was blocked off with barriers and full of police, firemen and investigators (I think), but we could still see the orange tail of the airplane stiching out if the burnt building. Scary stuff.

    • @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz
      @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DOUGL4S1 é. Eu só passei por lá uns 3 dias depois. Eu tinha uns 11 anos. Tive pesadelos e medo de vôo por anos

    • @DOUGL4S1
      @DOUGL4S1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz Eu tive um pouco de medo de aviões depois disso, mas na primeira vez que voei a alegria de ter andado de avião foi o bastante para vencer o medo kkk. Hoje eu entendo que a aviação é bem mais segura doq dirigir, por exemplo (e ninguém vai fazer uma investigação milhonária caso eu morra em um acidente de carro para saber o que aconteceu e ver como evitar aquilo no futuro :P).

    • @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz
      @BiancaRodrigues-mk4kz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DOUGL4S1 sim. Dihsjahsja aconteceu mais ou menos comigo. Atualmente eu sou nerd de aviação eihwuwhejwhe mas esse acidente em específico, e aquele com o voo 1907 da gol até hj me dão um leve desespero só de pensar

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tam flight 402 in 1996

  • @douglashenri5017
    @douglashenri5017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I remember that day. So tragic...
    On a lighter note, your pronunciation of "Congonhas" and "Guarulhos" are on point.

    • @Duzinfa
      @Duzinfa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Came here to say that about the pronunciation, he really did his homework.

    • @krognak
      @krognak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's the seemingly small things that really make a good quality channel.

  • @olddogmaster6643
    @olddogmaster6643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    It's so sad how simple mistakes like that can cost so many lives. Been an airline pilot is not an easy job and I salute everybody that does their job.

    • @sergiuszwinogrodzki6569
      @sergiuszwinogrodzki6569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is this a simple mistake? It's like you mistaken your gas pedal with the break pedal in your 18-wheeler crashing into a crowded area. I can't imagine how ignorant the pilots must have been to keep the right engine thrust above idle. Also, why wouldn't they simply have pulled it back when it was clearly not slowing down?

    • @LorenzoGiordanoGomes
      @LorenzoGiordanoGomes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergiuszwinogrodzki6569 You're clearly not a pilot and have no idea what it's like to do anything as close as difficult to this.

    • @sergiuszwinogrodzki6569
      @sergiuszwinogrodzki6569 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LorenzoGiordanoGomes nope

  • @sarahmathias9463
    @sarahmathias9463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    It's somewhat ironic that a TAM Airlines plane crashed into a TAM Airlines building.

    • @nivaldoss2
      @nivaldoss2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yep. You're right. In fact, due the proximity to the airport, that building was used exactly as facility to transport goods and cargo to and from the planes, and the wast majority of people who died on ground were in that building. To make things worst, right next to that building was a petrol station which also caught fire. Some cab drivers who served the airport passengers and were there at the gas station also died.

    • @temperaturerecords
      @temperaturerecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Friendly fire

    • @pedroneves4465
      @pedroneves4465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I used to spot airplanes taking off and landing from there when I was a kid with my dad. We stood right below oncoming planes, so it was a nice experience. We'd usually park our pickup at that gas station, grab a drink and some snacks and just spend the entire afternoon there. Matter of fact, if I recall correctly I remember being on the exact spot the plane crashed no more than a week before it happened. Eerie stuff.

    • @lucadipaolo1997
      @lucadipaolo1997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even more ironic when you realize the pilots asked TAM to land in Guarulhos instead, but TAM denied because they didn't want to deal with the cost of transporting people from Guarulhos to Congonhas. I guess they've learned their lesson, they now offer a free bus transfer from Guarulhos to Congonhas (and vice-versa).

  • @empacotador
    @empacotador 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This crash was really shocking for us here in Brazil, the country was still passing through hard times with the GOL 1907 crash that happen in 2006, and at that moment things start to calm down a little, then this happens out of nothing and really shock the entire country again and hurt the people morale. Man, hard times.
    Note: it is really fun landing on Congonhas, while getting close to the runaway you can see the tips of the plane wings REALLY REALLY close to the builds on the city.

    • @fredmdea785
      @fredmdea785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At least there hasnt been any comercial plane crashes on the country since then

    • @kennyfarago1838
      @kennyfarago1838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ans then when we thought everything was over, Chapecoense's plane crashed

    • @cail171
      @cail171 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love airplanes and that would be cool to see so close. But nah lol, I'd legit have a panic attack.

  • @kittystarss5371
    @kittystarss5371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I love TH-cam for introducing me to these smaller channels. Amazing work man. Keep it up!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Glad you enjoy it!

    • @AtemiRaven
      @AtemiRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some of the best TH-cam content can be found on channels with less than 80k subs. It's because in order to stand out from other channels, they have to have a unique idea and have to work much harder for those views so the quality is higher.

    • @AtemiRaven
      @AtemiRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Arielle JS A It's s private platform. There is no Freedom of Speech on a private platform and they can remove content for any reason or none at all. Or equally, promote what ever they like.
      Stop acting like they are stepping on some kind of right of yours. They're not and you accept their rules the second you make an account.

    • @AtemiRaven
      @AtemiRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pegg00 Not really. Without TH-cam you never would have found it in the first place.

    • @kittystarss5371
      @kittystarss5371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pegg00 I do praise him lol. I show thanks to TH-cam as well because I most likely would not have found this channel if it wasn’t for the recommended

  • @helenwilliams7065
    @helenwilliams7065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I've always felt a little relieved on flights once the plane touches down. I don't remember hearing much about crashes due to overrunning the runway. Yikes! So horrible. RIP to all those souls. Great job, sir, as usual. Excellent graphics and information presented with respect for the fatalities. Thanks for never trying to sensationalize these events.

    • @melodiefrances3898
      @melodiefrances3898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know, I always assume that once we have truly landed we are safe. Or that even if you overshoot it won't be anything too serious.
      😢☹

  • @adragol_cabaret
    @adragol_cabaret 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love how you post these on Saturday and bless us on the best day of the week.

  • @mikeymike9926
    @mikeymike9926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Remember your channel password, one day TH-cam will bless you with the grace of the algorithm. This channel is a gem

  • @alexkelleher2423
    @alexkelleher2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I live for this time of the week and get so excited when new plane videos drop.

    • @ElectroRail
      @ElectroRail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm guessing you're a patreon

    • @N00N01
      @N00N01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectroRail * 1 day ago * YES lol

  • @catflower94
    @catflower94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember this one, it happened when was a kid. There was also an accident from the Gol company pretty close, that combined, made me gain a fear of flying that stills remains.

  • @DemonLordGamingAC0
    @DemonLordGamingAC0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    TAM was an Airline known for horrible safety records and a philosophy that said "nothing matters more than profit" The Irony that the plane hit the Airline's building sounds a bit like Karma, but none of the poor souls deserved such fate.

    • @italoduarte2509
      @italoduarte2509 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why put all the blame on the Airline? The Brazilian air transport industry at that time was being put pressure on by media, creating a litteral chaos, and TAM was one of if not the best Airline at the time.

  • @geraldo209
    @geraldo209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you, for making a video on one of the most dangerous acidents in my countrys history. You just got a new subscriber.
    Today Sao paulo is a huge metropolis, and congonhas stands in the middle of it, but when the airport was made, they didnt expect the city to reach the size it did.

  • @RFI-DE
    @RFI-DE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I also flew that route from Porto Alegre to Congonhas in an A320 (now LATAM), knowing about that accident years ago and hoping it would never strike the same location and the same aircraft again...
    Some days later I had some time to visit the site, as I've been on the waiting list for my flight back to Germany, but got no seat for 2 days...
    So I drove in my rental car to visit the location. I've been sitting there at the "Memorial 17 de Julho" for a while. Every takeoff on RWY35L shocked me, as you don't hear anything until you see the aircraft, and then it's suddenly quite loud!
    All the victims names are written around the concrete memorial, which has a "surviving" tree in the middle. As this flight came from the south of Brazil, I also saw "german" names, like "Gottfried Taglöhner". There are still a lot of german descendants in the states of Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina, where several citys have been founded by german emigrants. I actually heard a woman speaking a strange german accent on my earlier flight to Porto Alegre...
    The Runway end is quite high above the street level. I saw, they had constructed an "Overrun" area to add some meters. Lots of steel and concrete.
    What a tragic accident. Today many children are playing at the site, as a part of that terrain is a playground now.

  • @RydiaMerchan
    @RydiaMerchan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how you explain the way planes work, why certain decisions are made.

  • @joenormanmusic
    @joenormanmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    So they didn't back down on their right engine because the reverse thrust was inoperative, which caused the right engine to continue forward thrust? Jeez.

    • @shariys1
      @shariys1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      How two experienced pilots can f*** up like that ...

  • @Lu-ql
    @Lu-ql ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:52 There hasn't been another fatal accident in this airport, but I do remember 2 cases (one last year), of smaller planes literally sliding after landing.
    One of them managed to stop exactly at the end of the runway, and the other went off the runway and stopped at the slope, almost touching the wall that separates the road and the airport.

  • @damianw.415
    @damianw.415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Having discovered your channel today, I sincerely hope you will keep up the great work and improvements within your videos!

  • @jamib123
    @jamib123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just recently discovered your channel and am going through all the videos! I wanted to say thank you for the warning before some about audio/video of the crash itself. It's very helpful for me! I really appreciate it!

  • @kenmore01
    @kenmore01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I don't often point fingers, but how can two experienced pilots not know to remove thrust from an engine while trying to stop? It seems like a no-brainer and so sad it cost so many people their lives. Sorry, dumb mistake.

    • @wanZotelli
      @wanZotelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No one knows for certain. But to be fair, when the plane touches the ground, it emits a "retard" alert to let the pilots know when to reverse the thrust. But when the pilot brings just one of the engines controls back and leave the other untouched, the alert ceases when it clearly shouldn't.

    • @galerinha
      @galerinha 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      One thing not properly highlighted is they never understood what was the problem. Before landing they were apreensive with the possibility of slipping on the runway (as it was a know problem of cog airport). When the plane didn't decelerate they thought they were slipping. It's confirmation bias

  • @danielbergmann4330
    @danielbergmann4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I lost two school classmates of mine on this crash, and to be honest never really understood why this happened since I was like 14 at the time...well now I know.

  • @tdestroyer1882
    @tdestroyer1882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Absolutely amazing I’ve heard about this crash and learned about it on air crash investigation but I still watched it anyways
    You also forgot when it crashed into a gas station and it blew up leading the investigators on site to worry about if the flight recorders were destroyed by the fire because it was so ferocious.

  • @kiryu2281
    @kiryu2281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Such an amazing channel. The only disappointing this is that I gotta wait a week to see another vid from this amazing channel

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What really haunts me is that in the seconds before all those people lost their lives in such a heartbreaking way, the pilots were screaming for their lives. My heart goes out to all the people impacted not only by the crash, but by the blast that caught structures in the area on fire as well. I hope that I never, ever have to take a plane ride to or from Congonhas.

    • @belopinto_
      @belopinto_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was probably painless death. It is almost certain that everyone there died on impact (as the aircraft was at almost 200 km/h or 124 mph) so the chances of anyone surviving the impact at that speed is almost zero, the human body is very sensitive

  • @nareyubr
    @nareyubr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome! I was looking forward to seeing a video on this TAM flight. Brazil has quite a history of big airplane disasters. Now I look forward to seeing a video on Varig 254.

  • @AlternateCesarT
    @AlternateCesarT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    wow.i saw this episode onece caled deadly procedure. R.I.P to all pasengers crew and civilians that died that day. love your content btw. and i always watch and i sit an wait until you upload.

  • @fernandopessim
    @fernandopessim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've been to Congonhas Airport once or twice in my life, that airport gives me chills.
    I've always preferred Guarulhos instead.

  • @itsamelara
    @itsamelara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you guys also should check the aiport of Ilheus also here in Brazil, always a "fun" time to land here

  • @pelicanine
    @pelicanine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This accident was actually very briefly covered on the This is Monsters channel yesterday - its theorized that a cult family had died in this accident going to the cult hotspot of Brazil. Super interesting, and super cool how things line up like this!

    • @robovac3557
      @robovac3557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Super.

    • @ggemini613
      @ggemini613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this, I looked them up, I now have 2 new channels to enjoy!

    • @TravMenace
      @TravMenace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh damn I didn't even realise this, I only just watched that video a couple days ago before stumbling across this one. small youtube!

    • @jessicamarie8299
      @jessicamarie8299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you post the link?

  • @advitrocks9
    @advitrocks9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found your channel about a week ago and I'm addicted to these detailed and perfect documentaries.

  • @bitscorpion4687
    @bitscorpion4687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ironic how it crashed into a TAM building

  • @danielgusmaodealmeidatdc5277
    @danielgusmaodealmeidatdc5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for doing my request 😁

  • @Robocopnik
    @Robocopnik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What absolute dingus allowed a plane they KNEW was broken to be flown for FOUR DAYS? That's the better part of a week! Also there's a typo in that CVR transcript.

    • @g2g591
      @g2g591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its normally not a problem, and wouldn't have been one hadn't it been combined with the pilots not taking their foot off of the gas (putting both thrust levers down to idle) 10:42 and the airport neglecting to install drainage into the runway.
      The plane was even screaming at them to kill the engine until they put the left engine into reverse. As a result of this and a few similar accidents they changed the alert to not stop until both engines are set to idle or reverse, instead of cutting off once the first was: www.flightglobal.com/enhanced-a320-logic-to-warn-pilots-of-throttle-retard-oversight/97089.article

  • @nidharsanviswanathan9955
    @nidharsanviswanathan9955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always RIP to 199 people

  • @ThyRodman
    @ThyRodman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember seeing an episode of Mayday covering this incident, I've been dreading this airport ever since.

    • @itsamelara
      @itsamelara 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you should check out ilheus aiport also here in brazil, reaaaaaaaaaally small runaway wih water on both sides
      it's always an adventure when I land here

  • @TheScoutPlay
    @TheScoutPlay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was 10 when this happened. My stepfather caught this flight on a regular basis because he had clients in Porto Alegre.
    For my little brothers' sake, I'm damn glad he didn't go that time.
    It was a pretty dark time for us, I even remember the scorched building.

  • @AndyG94
    @AndyG94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IT IS ALWAYS THE REVERSE THRUST!!

  • @mannmctrash
    @mannmctrash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are really great mate, there are flights that I know the fate of yet I watch your videos anyway just for the added information, top stuff, and I'd be interested to see the same style of video for other vehicle incidents, keep it up!

  • @davi.medrade
    @davi.medrade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was on a treadmill at the gym when the soap opera that was on TV was interrupted with this breaking news. I was about 10 km (~6 miles) from the airport when it happened. Up until the previous year, the spot in that avenue that the plane flew over was part of my daily commute.

  • @kayleighvossen
    @kayleighvossen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you do one on Turkish Airlines flight 1951? It crashed near Schiphol Airport in a field next to the road. People stopped their cars & farmers got their tractors to help with the rescue. My boyfriend can remember the endless amount of sirens going to and from the horrific scene. I know there was some sketchy stuff going on with Boeing and the plane's system but I don't remember the whole story.

  • @arandomthing2489
    @arandomthing2489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been here since 3.8k subs, let me just say that I am so glad that your channel has grown, I appreciate your dedication to your channel do much. Please continue to make amazing videos!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Thanks so much for sticking around

    • @arandomthing2489
      @arandomthing2489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DisasterBreakdown no problem, I’ll continue to watch your videos forever!

  • @flaviomonteiro1414
    @flaviomonteiro1414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always your pronunciation of Brazilian Portuguese is on point!

  • @awsomegirlpower476
    @awsomegirlpower476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have mixed feelings atm. Not because of the video, your channel's great! I just found out about it and watched all the vids and I love hearing about these events! It's just that I live in LI by JFK so on average 6-8 planes fly over my house each hour. I'm not scared of something happening, but binge watching this content isnt isn't doing my mind any favors 😅

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can relate, as I live by BWI, literally on runway heading of the primary runway (10/28). There are times when a plane might only be ~1500 feet, right over my house. I’m originally from the NYC area (I moved to MD from Astoria, actually), and I remember when American 587 crashed into Belle Harbor, so while I’m generally not worried about something happening, there have definitely been a couple times when a plane has flown _just_ a little too low overhead and caused my pulse to quicken briefly. Stay safe-and enjoy the view! 🛫 🛬

  • @chrisarthur3577
    @chrisarthur3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Less than 2 minutes in and a commercial already - well done TH-cam - not

  • @writerwhohatescoffee957
    @writerwhohatescoffee957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's kinda weird to notice that I remember this crash, like, in the news and I don't remember the air collision one that happened roughly around the same period. Also: it gets so interesting when you know the wider context like politics/economics. And that it's one of the last accidents in civil aviation. I mean, if there's a safe thing to do in Brazil, it's to fly in a comertial airliner. (Also, it's kinda funny when people think Congonhas was built in the middle of a city. Just... there wasn't a city? It was built in the middle of nowhere? Because brazilians aren't as stupid as you think we are? Urbanization happens? Because São Paulo is a massive city with over 12 million people that need to live somewhere? Nobody would willingly build an airport in the middle of the largest city of South America. )

  • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
    @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Flying into Cuzco, Peru is a corkscrew down into their airport the Andes. If you go to Machu Pichu you'll probably make this flight.
    Then there's the horrible hours-long train ride where the seats are wood and too small. But it's worth it to see the ruins.

  • @bedris4765
    @bedris4765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Guarulhos is a really nice airport.

  • @Lacrymac
    @Lacrymac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos, they're really informative and well presented. I would like to ask you if you could make a video of Austral Airlines 2553 and LAPA 3142 flight disasters which occurred in South America, I still remember these were really big disasters in my country, Argentina, when they happened. Thank you again!

  • @ninja650rn
    @ninja650rn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the quality of your content and how many videos you've been putting out. It really rekindled my love for aviation, keep up the hard work!

  • @goldensparkle6906
    @goldensparkle6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video appeared today on my recommended section... Today July 17th, 2021, exact 14 years after this tragedy

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t think planes should be allowed to fly if they have something inoperative on it. I know it was given the ok by Airbus but you never know how it will affect the aircraft. The lack of reverse thrust obviously didn’t help this flight but could have done if it had been operative. In fact would have helped.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s normal. If they didn’t, half of all flights would be cancelled.

    • @natirasohumana
      @natirasohumana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Planes count on a lot of redundancy, so if one thing is faulty it's okay to keep using it for a little while before fixing it.

    • @majorborngusfluunduch8694
      @majorborngusfluunduch8694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The lack of reverse thrust on engine 2 wasn't really the issue here. It was the fact that the pilots failed to set the throttle correctly. Everything snowballed from this mistake.

  • @sarahcoleman3125
    @sarahcoleman3125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really love when TH-cam has the contextual blindness to put an Expedia ad on a plane crash channel. XD
    Get those ad dollars, I guess. XD

  • @mamagoldielocks
    @mamagoldielocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your work and excellent presentation of this channel and (obviously) sensitive material...well researched and not sensationalized. Thanks so much and keep it up!

  • @bethsouza7895
    @bethsouza7895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a very hard evening news to watch :(

  • @alexanderwoods3951
    @alexanderwoods3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how Guarulhos is supposed to be the International airport of Sao Paulo but I see everyone else using Congonhas

  • @Jgpadilla
    @Jgpadilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mate you need to do a video on Toncontin Intl airport, literally the planes when they are landing they pass above my house

  • @Doom721
    @Doom721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for these videos, they are amazing

  • @laribells
    @laribells 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Porto Alegre is the capital of my Estate. One week before this flight I was interviewing one of the passengers who died in the crash (university graduation work, he was the owner of a graphic design agency here in my city). I was shocked, since this is one of the most commom flights we use to reach major cities in Brazil as well as pre- international flights. I know at least 2 people who lost this flight because they arrived late at POA airport. 😢

  • @warramin7439
    @warramin7439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these videos are so interesting ! this channel is definitely a hidden gem :)

  • @charlescho
    @charlescho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this channel a couple days ago. Been binging on the videos. Taking a flight this Monday. 🤦‍♂️

  • @rossmurison
    @rossmurison 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad youtube recommended this channel to me, love your videos

  • @adamkkhan8541
    @adamkkhan8541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always, could you do a video on Air India Flight 182?

  • @Anon-zl7zw
    @Anon-zl7zw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So with my understanding. If they properly followed procedures and held it down to stop the engines. Would they have not crashed?

    • @LuizFRdeO
      @LuizFRdeO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's difficult to say for sure. on the one side, that same day and the day before this incident there were reports of multiple planes having a hard time landing on that runway, one of them even slightly veered off it as well, but thankfully nothing serious happened.
      on the other hand, this very same plane had already landed there twice that same day without any issue. so who knows. I guess it was a tragic mix of things going wrong at the same time.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They would almost certainly have been fine.

    • @lj5632
      @lj5632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's Airbus' weak excuse. How can a computer issue commands overriding the landing in such an asymmetric configuration, with spoilers already deployed, all landing gears on the ground, one engine going at full reverse, and not deploy autobrake without any warning? The issue is that even if the pilots detected the incorrect position in time, it would not be possible to overcome the situation because its system is designed not to abort the go-around with the engine spooling

  • @lemmysandberg4516
    @lemmysandberg4516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, Bromma airport is pretty rarely used. I've been to the Bromma mall probably hundreds of times and I've never even seen a plane taking off at the runway. There's talks about demolishing it. It doesn't even serve any locations in Denmark or Norway, the only non Swedish destination is Helsinki.

    • @lemmysandberg4516
      @lemmysandberg4516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it was used as much as congonhas is, I'd be pretty scared honestly. There's a bunch of buildings close to it and a whole mall very close by.

  • @fanofspeed4126
    @fanofspeed4126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Motorsport and aviation fan I was wondering if you could do a video on the Alan Kulwicki plane crash Which happened in 1993 a couple months after he won the NASCAR cup title

    • @johnc1666
      @johnc1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be so great

  • @CrackerSmith
    @CrackerSmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work on these videos! Do you have plans on breaking down other events like maritime disasters?

  • @AkumuNoodle
    @AkumuNoodle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, thought your videos were from a million sub channel with how good they are. Keep up the good work!

  • @PapiSenpai
    @PapiSenpai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woohoo a new vid! I really enjoy your content. It is very informative and really puts a perspective on the cascading failures that lead to these unfortunate accidents.

  • @trinimascott
    @trinimascott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your great Channel
    Could you make a video of Scandinavian Airlines 933? No sign of it on TH-cam 😩

  • @hirsty6324
    @hirsty6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t know why I’m so obsessed with these videos but I am great videos keep it up!

  • @tomswift6198
    @tomswift6198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Typical official "solution" - pilots mishandle the engines, therefore the runway needs to be improved. Uh-huh.

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very well explained and detailed account of this tragic accident.

  • @abagel5968
    @abagel5968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content, haven't found a channel that specifies in Air Disasters, very interesting!

  • @marce33333
    @marce33333 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the crucial factors on this crash, is that the A320 family didn't have any warnings for the aforementioned condition. The pilots never realized that they had one engine on reverse thrust and the other on forward thrust. After some time, the European FAA (EASA) acknowledged the recommendation from ANAC (Brazilian FAA) to implement this warning.

  • @brovid-19
    @brovid-19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only friend is dead, the only person I ever wanted to spend the rest of my life sentence with on this rock prison hates me, 90% of my time is spent at work.
    _So which plane is most likely to end up on this channel? I've always wanted to fly_

  • @daniellassander
    @daniellassander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its so sad that disasters like this happens, they are so easily avoidable but pilots arent gods and knows everything. They thought that they were doing the right thing not taking the right engine into reverse thrust, not knowing it would make it impossible to slow the plane down as the right engine would still provide thrust.
    I dont blame the pilots, they thought they were doing the right thing, what should had happened was a routine for landing a plane with one engine not being able to use reverse thrust. "Take both engines into reverse thrust - this is needed so spoilers can be used" etc etc. Its just a poor example.

  • @RRM13
    @RRM13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Congonhas is so small, in the middle of the city, with skyscrapers surrounding it, pilots describe as "landing & taking off from an aircraft carrier".

  • @EdmundKempersDartboard
    @EdmundKempersDartboard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just seeing that CVR transcript is devastating.

    • @theowatchesyt
      @theowatchesyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there's actually both audio from the cockpit and video footage from the crash, it's even worse. truly sad

  • @ual737ret
    @ual737ret ปีที่แล้ว

    At the airline I flew for, we had a standing joke that one of the most dangerous situations you could have in a cockpit was two Captains flying together. In this case, I fail to understand why they didn’t notice the right throttle lever in the forward position or why they didn’t attempt a rejected landing procedure.

  • @LorenzoGiordanoGomes
    @LorenzoGiordanoGomes ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a small addition: the pilots yellng "turn, turn, turn" in the CVR is not an attempt to take the plane off the runway, it's the opposite: the plane began veering left from the thrust imbalance and they weren't able to keep it going straight.

  • @mrwambimba
    @mrwambimba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do Varig 254 next :D

  • @matthewsmith2787
    @matthewsmith2787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s scary how a pilot error could lead to tragedy. Surely pilots need better training?

  • @Jasonburns92jb
    @Jasonburns92jb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're Patreon is getting a 404 error, looks like you changed names there but not in your video description template

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, yes I changed the URL so its DisasterBreakdown. Here is the link: www.patreon.com/DisasterBreakdown
      I need to change the descriptions soon to reflect this, thanks.

  • @ariglobalbusinesssolutions1647
    @ariglobalbusinesssolutions1647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE your videos and I know they're about disasters but I definitely still want get my pilot license. I need to hug my pilot every time I land though lol

  • @arashipower
    @arashipower ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two topics for you.
    One is about TAM's Focker 100 where a bomb exploded in mid-flight, this case also more incidents made Brazilians refuse to board the plane becouse as bad reputation.
    The second is the VASP flight hijacking at the end of the 1980s, were the hijacker intended do the same thing as 9/11.

  • @badgerden7080
    @badgerden7080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please do a video about Eastern Airlines Flight 401 that crashed in the Florida Everglades. I don't believe you've done a video on this one yet.

    • @Er_Guille
      @Er_Guille 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the one that originated the “haunted plane legend”?

    • @brunopereiraikercasillas6265
      @brunopereiraikercasillas6265 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Er_Guille Yes. And in 1996 a valjet airplane crashes also in the everglades just meters from where flight 401 crashed

  • @coast2coast00
    @coast2coast00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoilers also change the wing shape, they massively cut lift.
    With auto spoilers and auto brake, the plane will put out the spoilers when it senses the ground on the wheels, cutting lift and allowing the wheels to take the full weight of the plane, and use the extra grip in braking.
    With no spoilers the wings would be generating a lot of lift, braking from the wheels would be cut by half(?), just that alone could cause an over run.

  • @DaemonetteLeilu19
    @DaemonetteLeilu19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if a take off instead of full braking was an option.

    • @GoianoAmazonia
      @GoianoAmazonia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there was a company culture of avoiding go-arounds and diverts, in order to save money. some say that the pilots radioed the airline asking to divert, but were forbidden to do so

  • @TransistorBased
    @TransistorBased 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what I'm hearing is not only did two long-term pilots completely miss that one of the throttles was on climb power, they knowingly used the one operative thrust reverser while on a wet runway. Even if the other engine were completely shut off that would be a terrible idea. That's a great way to go off the side of the runway at speed. Add to that a seemingly incompetent airport management that didn't realize grooves on a runway are a good idea.
    Way to go Brazilian civil aviation!

  • @arifinaliamdan6957
    @arifinaliamdan6957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta ask, when will you be doing Iranair 655 which got shot down by a US battleship

  • @Hannah-ks4mi
    @Hannah-ks4mi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ironic that a TAM airplane crashes into a TAM Airlines building.

  • @DannoAviation
    @DannoAviation ปีที่แล้ว

    There are always a multitude of failures which lead to a disaster… this accident being no exception. The footage was harrowing to watch… RIP to all lives lost.

  • @TransistorBased
    @TransistorBased 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The explanation for the crash is actually pretty simple. The plane didn't want to be in Brazil

  • @BGI_guy
    @BGI_guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isnt it ironic that it crashed into a TAM building?

  • @pop5678eye
    @pop5678eye หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:27 Reverse thrust is not a 'primary' tool for slowing a plane down at least not at airports in the USA. (yes I realize regulations may vary in other countries) While reverse thrust is almost always used when operational by FAA regulations runways can only be certified for aircraft if that particular type is able to land there safely without the use of thrust reversers. This is necessary for engine failure-caused emergency landings when thrust reverse cannot be used.

  • @Leisuretimelifestyleshorts
    @Leisuretimelifestyleshorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heart wrenching