The Planets, Neptune Part 1: Opening - Fig. IV
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Wouldn't mind a five hour orchestration + harmony analysis, though.
Thanks for the solid work.
yes, I would love a five hour orchestration + harmony analysis, even five and a half!!
I also wouldn't mind a five hour orchestration + harmony analysis, though. Great idea!!!
Let’s be honest - for us real harmonists, this is the best planet.
39:33 interesting fact: modern celesta can play up to f5 (a 4th above piano highest note), so nowadays it is in scale.
5/4 meter can also be found as a 3+2 grouping in Saturn, done by the tubular bells from VI throughout
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Mr. Thomas, one question regarding doubling in w/w. The bass flute (in reality modern alto flute) part is indicated in 3 Clarinets in A. Later that Bass Flute part is indicated in Bassoons. Is that to be played only in absence of alto flute in the orchestra (not available) ? I asked flute players in our local Central Florida orchestras, and it turns out that at least one flute player owns an alto flute. So, perhaps in Holst’s times alto flute wasn’t that widely available ?
Hi Krystof! You may have missed that I mentioned in other lectures that ossias marked in other winds are intended to substitute for the lack of bass (alto) flute. The alto flute was around, it's in scores from Rimsky-Korsakov, Stravinsky, and Ravel, but it may not have been completely dependable in England where the Planets was composed.
Thanks so much ! I thought so. I’ve been studying in depth those “turn of the centuries” scores. Stravinsky, Ravel, Debussy, Mahler, Boulanger, Holst, Strauss etc. particularly in regard of auxiliary instruments, and also “other” brass instruments. In modern film scores you pretty much have for most of the time French horns (with 4 or 6 of them as the most common), 3 or 4 trumpets in Bb ( I don’t really see calls for any C trumpets in those scores for some reason), 3 tenor trombones, or 2 tenor trombones and bass trombone, tuba ( sometimes címbasso). I never really see in any of Williams, Goldsmith, Horner scores any calls for tenor tuba, euphonium, flugelhorn - any of those brass instruments. Hmmm...
@@KrystofDreamJourney I think Wagner Tuben are fairly common in epic film scoring with more than 4 horns. You should look up the LA Horn sound.
@@stefanalexanderlungu1503 That would be ideal - to look into LA Horn sound, except... I live on the East Coast (Central Florida), so LA is out of reach, a “forbidden” territory... We only have an access to JW published orchestral scores, and recently to some more through Omni Music Publishing. But that’s all that is. You have to somehow be “an insider” perhaps know orchestrators or sound engineers - you know what I mean...
@@KrystofDreamJourney I don't remember which film scores use that kind of sound but I think you could directly contact Thomas Goss through the Orchestration Online website and ask him. Are you looking to write a film score?