To all African. Africa have a lot of resources. If you can put aside all of difference between tribes and religions, you can turn Africa into a very wealthy continent.
Jin Chuong Africa is the most ethnically diverse continent in the planet. The borders for the countries were drawn on a map by Europeans who cares very little for the ethnic make up of the continent. Europe went through two world wars and the forced migration of millions of Germans to find peace, yet we expect the people of Africa to be different.
Jin Chuong too much outside intervention and greed, Ethiopias monarchy was overthrown, Ethiopia did really really well as a monarchy but because of greed and the soviets I don't think our empire will ever be restored to its glory and might
Western nations exploited many of these resources during their imperialist conquest of the region, then left the Africans to solve the ethnic mess they caused. It'll be a while before the continent stabilizes.
China is ethnically diverse, so is India, it is a bad argument. Are you saying people of different ethnicities by default cannot live peacefully together.
Gage Vandeventer notice how I said the "trump and putin's" of the world, people who don't fit the progressive "let's all unite" attitude. Don't waste your sarcasm, you'll need it later.
+SKM that is not the issue. The true reason goes far before Trump and Putin were alive, before the British Empire, you would have known that if you paid attention. It's because of the tribal rivalries they had so long ago and still do.
@@escapefr0mslender Ethiopia is said that it might split soon same with South Africa due to all the issues. Ethiopia has Somalian living in their land there was a whole war which Somalia tried to get the land where their people lived.
This happens because people like you would rather spend time on youtube instead of heading out to south Sudan and standing between the two clashing forces while singing kumbaya. That's right K. It's totally your fault.
is this just another phase in relentless expansion drift? BTW, the dividing of Sudan into North and South just left one nation with a lot more recourses and aid, and they never seem to have food for the people but do purchase an insane amount of weapons after manufactured social terror and chaos. after the slaughtering somebody has to rebuild, even if that standard wasn't needed in the first place. but it's already been set in motion, you let the devil in your home.. trans generational chokehold, where some leaders and their crew benefit maximally, donate minimally and jump to power by legislating outside presence. they just kill entire cultures, nations, ideologies. relentless expansion drift. a True cancer of the world
Awww, don't do that! Let's say the seeds were sown when the European governments in African nations (which were composed of elite, white, rich, powerful, life altering men) left, creating a power vacuum to a civilization that was unprepared for industrialization. And to also install a puppet government (1:21) of the most base, unrepentant, life-altering, mostly European schooled men makes for what we are witnessing now. Only a fool would believe that ordinary white people-like yourself-are to blame. Even the most humanitarian organizations are to be commended, but the seeds have been sown. And the harvest is large, but so bitter! Feel better?
ahm, i;m sudanese and it is a known fact that the divide between people in the north and south only came after the british colonization. British people used the "divide and conquer" strategy to divide sudan into closed states and separated the education and brohepeted south sudanese from coming into the north. Before that all people were living happily. It seems all the issues came with the white man. to add: the US stood to separate south sudan to promote "democracy", yet where is the US now? Where are they from the war and all people dying?
@Rowan O'Mullane United states military will go to your house if it finds oil in your basement. It doesn't care about justice, terrorism, racism, democracy. If it cared about justice, it would've given native Americans their country back. If it cared about terrorism, it would never have sold assault rifles to white supremacists in USA. If it cared about democracy, it'd never have elected Trump and rigged election against Bernie Sanders.
@Rowan O'Mullane nobody gives a flying fk how you think you feel about these events. I could care even less about your struggle to justify illegal and illegitimate actions against the many many countries on the US hit list. Kick rocks you hellhound mut.
I don't think it is as black as white as that. I live in the UK, but originally from Darfur where there was genocide due to the president Omar Al-Bashir. It's important to understand that North Sudan is an African country with only a small minority of Arabs. I consider myself as an african who speaks arabic. For many people, there tribes are an important part of their identity and are not willing to let that go. We need to learn to live together and appreciate everybodies identities (including South Sudan) as at the end of the day we are all African Sudanese. The first step to achieve this is to remove Omar Al-Bashir as he is the cause of our problems
@@matnotyou really? If that's what the govt. Did then this is totally wrong. I'm a Muslim and I know Islam doesn't force anything on anyone. Idk how these people force other religions to follow their rules and laws.
Luke Anthony Lack of education. Why do you think in the US, it isn't as bad as other countries? The more educated you are, the more that you will see that other people aren't bad. In the US though, people force it with their click bait and also justify that one issue is all issue. Some people feel entitled and I'm guessing they're the ones not well educated.
ploianderson so you saying that in the US, the people that make problems bigger than what they are by using click bait and over exaggerating are the uneducated one's?
When a country is in civil unrest it's hard to unify and stabilize the country, add inequality, lawlessness and testosterone to the mix and you have civil war.
This simply isn’t true... Sudan has oil yet the U.S. isn’t that interested, proving the point against it. Afghanistan didn’t have much oil, yet we helped them. It’s almost like there are good people in the government or something...
This is what happens when a country is created based on a racial and religious conflict ... once the "other" is not there anymore, we find another "other" to fight.... internally.
I'm South Sudanese, my parents came from the dinka tribe they left south sudan around 2000 and went to Egypt then in 2001 my parents came to america. Yeah, dinka and nuer mostly don't get along.
@@anari234 personally I really don’t know how to answer that, but I guess yes. Sudan and South Sudan is split because of religion and all types of different reasons. Different languages, religions, skin color.
Probably not. In Rwanda nearly a million people were killed in acts of ethnic cleansing within the first 100 days of the purely sectarian 1994 conflict. This is way different. The South Sudanese civil wars been going on for four years now. Although lots of people have died, this is in a political conflict with sectarian undertones. Plus as of last year the situation was winding down with only an estimated 3000 or so people dying of it in 2015. Ever since 1994 people have been worried about genocide (rightly so). But this doesn't have the potential like Rwanda did.
Rowan McMullan I sure hope not, I wish the UN would step in, and block arm sales to the country, and send peacekeepers to keep both sides in order, but then you would have people whining "THE UN IS TRYING TO CONTROL THE WORLD, ITS STEPPING INTO OTHER COUNTRIES, NEW WORLD ORDER CONFIRMED" you can't do anything without having people whining
There is no geographical divide between the 2 ethnic group as South Sudan (and Sudan) are very diverse. (This would require mass migration and mobilization for the biggest 2 group). Also the other 40+ groups may start a domino effect all aiming for an independent State. We (the world) did to them as we did to Palestine-Israel in 1948.
gökçe arslan they also probably fight over land because of resources. If enemy territory has resources you want, then youre gonna want to fight them for it
3:31 VP guy "I might run against you in the next election" President: "can't run against me in the next election if there ain't another election" *starts a civil war again*
They forgot to mention that the root cause of the first conflict between the north and the south was originally established by the British colonialism, they basically enforced segregation system via closed zones preventing travel and trade between north and south for a long period of time causing a sense of detachment which ignited social divide and race issues.
Theoniix They need to get it together. India split into pakistan and india to seperate religion. Ethnicity was able to hold themselves together making it diverse. South sudan could do the same
I'm a high school student in the International Baccalaureate diploma program, which is an international curriculum that ignores local curriculums. While all my generally educated friends are learning about Abraham Lincoln, we're learning about how HORRENDOUS the Rwandan Genocide was. The biggest thing that disgusted me was the complacency of the international community and the media's lack of interest. I'm so glad that channels like Vox are here to get the word out about these rising conflicts, people underestimate just how powerful the right media coverage can be in a situation as dire as this.
People say if europe didn't colonize africa then they'd be better off but here they are literally doing tribal wars just like 500 years ago. Nothing has changed
eisa alaskar Humans cause Chaos, there will never be a time where theres actual peace. After years of war and we still don't have a year of peace? We try to bring unity, but fail so miserably. It'll take a long time until finally we get a day or an hour or a minute of peace. All we can do is to accept it.
***** Oh idk, Culture, Religion, Capitalism, ethnic differences, Resources? How does one just skip to "Human Nature" over all the material conditions on the earth? Think about all the humans who have ever participated in wars (fighting in them). Lets just assume that is 1 Billion (even though its probably not even close), that still leaves 19 Billion Humans who've never engaged in violent wars. Think about all the violent warlords and criminals whove ever existed in the world, then think about how many people are not violent criminals. Yes there are millions of violent, hateful, abusive, and selfish people, but there are billions of people who are not like that. A few bad apples DON'T Spoil the bunch. The majority of humanity is good.
***** but there is no proven "Human Nature" that you can trace all human behavior/relations to. No code of conduct all humans are inherently programmed to live by. You're oversimplifying.
It's a similar to the story of India and Pakistan... both of them got independent with the genocide of Hindus and sikhs. .. Pakistan again got divided to form Bangladesh... genocide of Bengali Muslims and Hindus... Pakistan could have shattered again but they kept fighting wars against India which kinda boosts their national integrity... otherwise there will be no Pakistan
David Rodriguez I think there is nothing which holds South Sudan together... e.g. war against Sudan kept them together...same is with Pakistan..their hatred against India keeps them together
I like how you mention genocide of Hindus during separation of pak and ind while COMPLETELY ignoring deaths of Sikhs and Muslims as well. Everyone suffered.
Razy Ahmed I m sorry if I forgot to mention Sikhs, I will edit it...but in case of Muslims I don't think it was a genocide...it was Mohammed Ali Jinnah who declared direct action against Hindus and Sikhs...lakhs of Hindus and Sikhs were raped, killed, robbed in Muslim majority areas...contrary to that...in India, Gandhi and other Congress leaders were continuously trying to calm down the people including Muslims...the fact is Congress was trying to represent whole country as one...but Muslim league was just working for Muslims...that's the difference... and that's why Pakistan is way behind India in all areas....rightly said ...one country reached to Mars...other country is still trying to enter the neighbouring country...
MA1433 rightly said...Asia and Africa are loaded with oil and other natural resources ...but they don't know how to harvest them.. US and other countries take advantage of that..
Perhaps, but without it major powers would probably leave the UN and it would collapse just like the League of Nations did. Likewise imagine a bunch of 3rd world countries got together and outvoted the US/EU and imposed some measure which was bad for the US/EU, would you be cool with that? Veto cuts both ways.
Neko Tamo "Likewise imagine a bunch of 3rd world countries got together and outvoted the US/EU and imposed some measure which was bad for the US/EU, would you be cool with that?" Yes, because that's what "Democracy" means. If you have even the SLIGHTEST problem with what you described, that's what being a corrupt dictator is.
I always like these videos because they shed a light on something I'd never even heard of, but they make me feel guilty and then don't tell me what I could help do to stop it.
Loving these current event videos you guys are releasing. I had no idea this situation was even going on. One interesting question it made me ask was how do we define holocaust vs a civil or ethnic war? Are they considered the same thing as long as people are being killed based on their socio-cultural identity?
This is incredibly sad but I really feel that if a country decides to intervene or not, they'll be criticised. It's not a decision to take lightly and must be done right.
@@asherayeras9200 oh u didn't know, in early 2020 riek machar and salva kiir signed a peace agreement which salva kiir would serve as president and riek machar would serve as vice president also there were 4 more VPs and they decided to start a camp to train all soldiers regardless together
Once a trouble maker, always a trouble maker. The south sudan started the chaos at the beginning. After they gained independent, they are fighting each other. It's the people.
It’s disturbing how little information is coming out of the area now in 2024 still. There’s so much atrocities but even just trying to learn more about updates and how to help people if it has been difficult
After watching this, I feel proud to be an Indian. We are the most diverse populace in the world with over a thousand different languages and dialects. Dozen or more religious groups, and still we keep our differences aside and make it through every adversity coming our way. We have a lot of problems, but this is something that should make every Indian proud.
jumbovs Are you sure about that? Are you telling me parents would approve of someone marrying someone in a lower caste in big cities? You are pretty much lying right now. As for job apportunities for someone in a lower caste is minimal to none. The caste system in India is ingraved into the culture. It doesn't matter whether it is a big city or not. India has a bigger GDP than South Sudan and the fact that South Sudan is a 5 year old country makes it ridiculous for you to compare it to India.
fay guled I think you are more clueless than I am. I wasn't comparing the economic prowess of the two nations. I was talking about the ethnic and religious disparity. India for several centuries has been open to all kinds of cultures and religions. It makes sense to compare both because of the ethnic turmoil South Sudan is going through with only two major factions whereas India continues to harbour a population which is exponentially more diverse. Regarding the marriage quotient, you are right, but partially. Inter-caste marriage isn't very common but it's changing fast. People tend to marry into their own caste or religion, mostly because they have a certain amount of familiarity to the traditions and customs of their own caste. In India, tradition plays a huge role from birth till a man dies. People don't want to let go of that culture easily so they prefer someone from their own caste, so they can keep that going. I'll give you some facts and you can make up your mind after that. US: Interracial marriages - 8.4% India: Intercaste marriages - 11.4% Feel free to ask me for the source of these statistics. Though, I'm not someone who likes to belittle someone, according to surveys US actually fares worse than India. Despite being mostly homogenous in terms of religion, culture and language, still US fares a lot worse. My advice to you: It's easy to point out problems but difficult to solve them. Don't be predisposed to make certain assumptions when you clearly are ignorant about what's going on. I, despite being an Indian am mostly ignorant about my own country. US despite being called the most progressive nation still fares worse than India on a similar quotient. Caste system indeed is bad. But it's difficult to cleanse it easily from its roots because India is still less than 7 decades old and caste based discrimination started to become a taboo only after independence. The government gives more than ample opportunity to the people coming in lower caste category. 52.5 % of all government jobs and seats in educational institutions are reserve for lower caste category. Due to this, the lower caste sections who moved to cities and applied for reserved jobs enjoy a higher standard of living than a person from unreserved category. That's because it's relatively a lot easier to secure a job, if you belong to a reserved category as the cut off score is very low. I don't know what else to add. If you think I'm lying, you can look it up or I can provide the source of my info. Adios! P. S. I'd suggest you to talk to any friend who emigrated from India. And ask him about the situation. Perhaps you will get a better insight.
The civil war ended in February 2020 because of the ceasefire agreement, and now the two rivals formed together a coalition government. Least already now, it stopped from becoming another Rwandan genocide, but the damage has been done still...
@@ramenlover1727 It's just not very simple. There are many things that needed to be done, and it's all about disagreements that oftentimes erupt into violence.
I really want my country and South Sudan to be one country again. We can live differently this time. We are not too different. There will be no racism or discrimination like before. We will build a mixture of Mosques and Churches across the new Sudan and live together in harmony. We can spread the oil across the country and be the biggest and mightiest African country. I hope Bashir and his cronies are given capital punishment so we can finally move on from that history. Dubai and London are examples of places that can live together in a multicultural and multi religious land. The same can happen for Sudan and SS and I really hope it does.
As an African American I find it interesting that there are different ethic groups amongst Africans, in America Black is just one racial/ethnic group. Shows how much I know about my heritage.
African slaves were brought from around Africa to the Americas. Little regard was given to recording where those slaves came from. Few records were kept about slave lineages. Doubly so when you consider how often slave owners, the slave master's employees and the slave master's guests interbred with the slaves, thus creating babies who were half European and half African. Thus African Americans know little of where their ancestors came from.
It's the same with Asians. In Asia, they all hate each other, but in regions like Singapore, Malaysia, and the US where different Asian groups intermingle and just accept they all eat rice.
because you dont know where you from..an ethnicity is a folkloric identity not a national one...africa still doesnt understood that. civism over tribalism. its the solution.
Assuming this was sarcasm; you aren't taking into account that for much of our history the US has been isolationists except when they absolutely deemed it necessary (often financially) to intervene. We are also as a people insulated by our extremely large economy, from the sway and flux of the world around us. This issue in Sudan, for example, has absolute 0 effect on 99.9% of the US population. Weather there is a genocide or not, all that will happen is people will ignore it or they will post a picture/comment about their thoughts and prayers or whatever else people do on facebook these days.
Son Goku Yeah, people used the same rhetoric back during ww2. "Who cares what hitler is doing all the way across the sea in europe? It doesn't affect me personally." I think there's a difference between pointless wars like the iraq and vietnam wars and stopping a genocide. People hid behind the monroe doctrine and isolationism in the events leading up to ww2 and its interesting to see they are still hiding behind it.
Henry Leopold There is a difference - the difference is the economic impact it will have on the US. And Sudan has almost none, unlike the oil rich countries in the Middle East.
+Kev San it is in part because of colonialism, just look at India, it was a British colony as well, there seem to be a pattern here, and of course its also because people there can't resolve their differences and put their priorities right.
Fruitpunch That's why I had to mention the part where its also those people's fault. Its not either colonialism or those people's fault, such a false dichotomy.
One major cause of this was colonialism. More specifically, it was how the colonizers split up the continent. The borders they put down was wildly off from the many diverse ethnic groups there, many of which were enemies of each other. When the colonies gained independence, these bad borders still remained.
Hey Vox, killer videos. But as much as I'm able to build a fighting war-machine-in-a-suit and program a home computing system that's witty, sometimes I have trouble making creative visualizations like the ones you do. Are you considering putting out any courses on data visualization (or making infographics) in the future for us to check out?
I am Sudanese and my relation with south Sudanese was playing in street all day with Barefoot and nothing called home since every house in the block is my home ,if you are African you probably understand what I mean, really love my brother and one day they had to leave by force of both governments, we all been crying . it started even before the independent of sudan from. the british was dividing the country just like the way it is now even in laws it was diffrent than the norh sudan wich was the spark of some reccemee, by the eurbian colonianesem that that in many countries in afriaca by purpose in inorder to make african alwayes in need for them. anyway Early early 1940s, from the last century groups of American missionsaries came to south sudan wich had had some local religions and they started to spread the Christianity and teaching them "thier rights" as they were claiming, wich was supeesd to be teaken from the northen goverment in case of undependent wich the northen ware lookedly looking for and most of them ware audocated and it was clear that they will teak power in case of indepenence, wich is exactly was the case. and since the firs day of our independent the they started asking for there right in resources and high position in goverment, that voice was by some political leader wich are now the leaders of south sudan and they ware alwayes armed and do not ask me where they got that arms from wich was enough to supplite the longest war in the history of africa wich is more than 50 years. US goverment was alwayes telling our southern brothers that after there independent the will be the swiss of africa and i am witing for that Swiss to become exist since have a lot of homes there in my country.
This is pretty bad, but I just went to Burger King and their grill wasn't working so I couldn't get a cheeseburger. Make a video about that Vox, you won't.
As someone from South Sudan it breaks my heart how much hope is in my country yet that hope is perishing by this fighting. My parents and I left home when I was only one years old and currently live in the U.S. I wish I could be like other foreigners where they’re able to go back to their homeland for vacation but I cannot do that. 😓🇸🇸
cozy b4e hey 👋🏾 i’m from Darfur. what gets me about the whole situation was the separation in the first place. Why would you split when the real devils are Bashir and his kleptocrats-they’ve been the ones largely responsible for the horrible treatment of the south. A properly function democracy should have been installed as a opposed to just splitting the country and expecting results 🙁
Halim Adams Hi I’m from North Sudan I pray until Omar al bashit leaves Sudan. So a new man can lead and hopefully help the situation we are Sudan in the end no south north east or west we are one I hope someday we help you guys.
why doesn't youtube's shitty algorithm stop putting completely irrelevant and unimportant (not even trending videos) in the trending section and put this... or stop taking money from companies to put their videos in the section
rea goldson First I never said we need war for peace . Basically what I mean is that for diplomacy to work combatants or parties involved in a dispute must believe that the diplomatic way is to way forward. If any side believes that they can gain an advantage militarily than diplomacy won't work . Or if peace and diplomacy costly politically , because remember peace has a price . Some leaders don't want diplomacy for fear of appearing to "back down"
Im putting this out there because humans are monsters. If it saves the lives of a larger group, i would end someone's life. If you study history, you get that humans are really scary monsters, and as much as some hate being human, truth be told, the world dosent care. If you can solve problems peacefully, then do it, but if military force is the better option, use it. The argument then becomes, whats the better option here..
That's exactly the problem with giving independance to a new state governed by warlords and militias, hard to find solid foundation for a well functionning state since the separatist leadership only motivated by power and external sponsorship.
i wish your voice didnt put me into a hypnotic trance every time i watch one of your videos, because the content itself is incredibly interesting and relevant hahah
Thanks for the video gave more insight as to what is happening there. I'm from Sudan my self and I always just looked at it like it's just their second nature to keep fighting until they get tired without comprehending the scale of the conflict going on
Great video! very informative, put us up-to-date of what's happening in the world we live in and that we had no idea was happening. I find this matter of african civil wars very complicated and unfortunately we're not close of seeing this ends. The very creation of the countries caused the civil wars: the made-up boundaries, the colonialism of the 19th century and now who pay the price for it, is everyone who had absolutely nothing to do with it! All european nations profited from Africa and left them ruined. with made-up countries in which pressure built up and has been released into a series of civil wars. Honestly, at this point, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
News there wasn't finally a genocide and Riek Machar became again vice-president and Salva Kiir stayed president so basically they did seven years of war for nothing
UK: Divides India and Pakistan UK: Didn't divide Sudan and South Sudan Countries that hate each other are united and countries that love each others are divided by UK
It's in every single one :D Too bad that Generation Z is more and more inclined to the right wing. Figures... Kids are being born into this political correctness bullshit, people want to rebel, people want freedom, and so they go right wing. Suits me right ;)
Man O' War 💀Who lied to you? The Republican Party literally only makes up 27% of the country, the only way you people are physically able to win elections is through the electoral college. The Democratic Party percentages rises each year while the republicans lower. If you look up voting and race by statistics the majority of republicans are old white men in the middle of the country. When they die off that’s it, the reason why the right wing discourages immigration is because most immigrants become democrats. Generation z is highly liberal and the Republican Party is a dying minority. Democrats won the popular vote by over 8 million votes. The next generation is growing up in the trump era, in the next 60 years the Republican Party isn’t gonna be here, you do know that right? I mean just look at your party right now, I’ve talked to many republicans who are becoming independents because right wingers have seemed to have trump derangement syndrome.
“At the time, the World stood by and watched the slaughter of 800,000 people. It said it would never allow that to happen again, but it has” so sad how that is all too familiar
@@MustacheCashStash125The worst part wasn't even said. The UN DID send peacekeepers but they didn't allow them to properly protect the Tutsi victims because it wasn't seem as "important enough" to help. On average, five people died a second
Can't thank you enough for bringing light to these kinds of issues.
Lol Africans cant afford light
daniel117100 jesus dude
daniel117100 yes
shut up how would you like to live there with nothing?
daniel117100 honestly, good one. Rather there is none to afford in many cases.
To all African. Africa have a lot of resources. If you can put aside all of difference between tribes and religions, you can turn Africa into a very wealthy continent.
Jin Chuong Africa is the most ethnically diverse continent in the planet. The borders for the countries were drawn on a map by Europeans who cares very little for the ethnic make up of the continent. Europe went through two world wars and the forced migration of millions of Germans to find peace, yet we expect the people of Africa to be different.
Jin Chuong too much outside intervention and greed, Ethiopias monarchy was overthrown, Ethiopia did really really well as a monarchy but because of greed and the soviets I don't think our empire will ever be restored to its glory and might
Western nations exploited many of these resources during their imperialist conquest of the region, then left the Africans to solve the ethnic mess they caused.
It'll be a while before the continent stabilizes.
China is ethnically diverse, so is India, it is a bad argument. Are you saying people of different ethnicities by default cannot live peacefully together.
Jin Chuong these resources work against poor countries since armed militias as in Congo took them for themselves and enslaved the local population
Why must we always fight against one another because of ethnicity and race?
My Clever Nothing idk, because the trump and putin's of the world won't let humanity come together
Putin already did more to end the Syrian civil war than anyone else lul. I mean hastags won't kill terrorists unfortunately :(
SKM yeah two presidents of separate countries are keeping billions of people from coming together
Gage Vandeventer notice how I said the "trump and putin's" of the world, people who don't fit the progressive "let's all unite" attitude. Don't waste your sarcasm, you'll need it later.
+SKM that is not the issue. The true reason goes far before Trump and Putin were alive, before the British Empire, you would have known that if you paid attention. It's because of the tribal rivalries they had so long ago and still do.
Watching this now breaks my heart
@HailToTheHorse ;-;
so this one doesn't matter too?
Bumi nope
@@bumi8167 no
@Lazar Cvetkovic it does i just said no because i felt like it
@@gubadagoober contribute with something useful next time, please.
The Great Britain Independence Rule: Dividing countries that don't need a divide and uniting countries that should be divided!
Countries that should be divided? Tell mee
@@escapefr0mslender Ethiopia South Africa for example
@@escapefr0mslender Ethiopia is said that it might split soon same with South Africa due to all the issues. Ethiopia has Somalian living in their land there was a whole war which Somalia tried to get the land where their people lived.
Nigeria and India: *are we a joke to you?*
@@cczsus6513 you mean Ethiopia having piece of Somalia
Control control control, then withdraw and leave a power vacuum and watch the region implode. Why is this pattern so prevalent..?
If we weren't going into Rwanda to stop the fighting, then what would you do?
This happens because people like you would rather spend time on youtube instead of heading out to south Sudan and standing between the two clashing forces while singing kumbaya. That's right K. It's totally your fault.
byrne1et the usual suspects.
is this just another phase in relentless expansion drift?
BTW, the dividing of Sudan into North and South just left one nation with a lot more recourses and aid, and they never seem to have food for the people but do purchase an insane amount of weapons after manufactured social terror and chaos. after the slaughtering somebody has to rebuild, even if that standard wasn't needed in the first place. but it's already been set in motion, you let the devil in your home.. trans generational chokehold, where some leaders and their crew benefit maximally, donate minimally and jump to power by legislating outside presence. they just kill entire cultures, nations, ideologies. relentless expansion drift. a True cancer of the world
Awww, don't do that! Let's say the seeds were sown when the European governments in African nations (which were composed of elite, white, rich, powerful, life altering men) left, creating a power vacuum to a civilization that was unprepared for industrialization. And to also install a puppet government (1:21) of the most base, unrepentant, life-altering, mostly European schooled men makes for what we are witnessing now. Only a fool would believe that ordinary white people-like yourself-are to blame. Even the most humanitarian organizations are to be commended, but the seeds have been sown. And the harvest is large, but so bitter! Feel better?
ahm, i;m sudanese and it is a known fact that the divide between people in the north and south only came after the british colonization. British people used the "divide and conquer" strategy to divide sudan into closed states and separated the education and brohepeted south sudanese from coming into the north. Before that all people were living happily. It seems all the issues came with the white man.
to add: the US stood to separate south sudan to promote "democracy", yet where is the US now? Where are they from the war and all people dying?
True brother, the British did the same in India. Praying for your health.
@Rowan O'Mullane you are right but if us is not gonna help in sudan then why tf are they in afghanistan and middle east
@Rowan O'Mullane United states military will go to your house if it finds oil in your basement. It doesn't care about justice, terrorism, racism, democracy. If it cared about justice, it would've given native Americans their country back. If it cared about terrorism, it would never have sold assault rifles to white supremacists in USA. If it cared about democracy, it'd never have elected Trump and rigged election against Bernie Sanders.
@Rowan O'Mullane nobody gives a flying fk how you think you feel about these events. I could care even less about your struggle to justify illegal and illegitimate actions against the many many countries on the US hit list.
Kick rocks you hellhound mut.
@@rajadhirajmaharaj also who tf r u. U don’t even know politics
“The world stood by and watched the slaughter of 800,000 people”
Sounds about right
Nothing new unfortunately.
As long as the Europeans and far left UN get what they want nothing will change. They abandoned my country and will abandon many others
popcorn
And “it said it would never allow that to happen again. But it has”
obviously
>African country with more than one main ethnic group
>Peace and unity
choose one
I don't think it is as black as white as that. I live in the UK, but originally from Darfur where there was genocide due to the president Omar Al-Bashir. It's important to understand that North Sudan is an African country with only a small minority of Arabs. I consider myself as an african who speaks arabic.
For many people, there tribes are an important part of their identity and are not willing to let that go. We need to learn to live together and appreciate everybodies identities (including South Sudan) as at the end of the day we are all African Sudanese. The first step to achieve this is to remove Omar Al-Bashir as he is the cause of our problems
@@n.n4453 انشاء الله تجيكم حرية
@@n.n4453 arabs are not a minority we are Afro Arabs not africans
@@Shyhab afro Arabs are Africans
@@budomk9299 Afro Arabs are the result of arabs Intermixing with africans
South Sudan is like a Child who are in still in elementary that where givin freedom by her parents to live on his own.
This is correctly put y'all can't hand out countries to kids and expect them to not act violent, brash and childish.
Except that the parent is unrelated to the child, doesn't care about the child.
Ⲓⲉϣⲩⲁ Ⲏϣⲉⲣ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܝܚܝܐܠ I mean South Sudan wanted to be independent , what d o you expect , it’s there own fault
@@matnotyou really? If that's what the govt. Did then this is totally wrong. I'm a Muslim and I know Islam doesn't force anything on anyone. Idk how these people force other religions to follow their rules and laws.
@@matnotyou pardon me?
A little fact : President Salva Kiir's iconic black cowboy hat was offered as a gift by George W. Bush.
Capitaine
That's cute.
And he hasn’t taken it off since ... lol.
I C O N I C
Yeah dat ho cleeeeeeeean
Nanyal1 He said he’ll take it off when South Sudan separates from the North and there’s peace... Lol he’ll be wearing it for a minute
I didn't even know about this conflict, i feel super ignorant now.
vanar dnb Me to, western medias are so good at ignoring important stuff...
vanar dnb ehhh you're probably more informed than most Americans.
al jazeera is also excellent for international news.
vanar dnb you're not ignorant, the news around you is
vanar dnb I was to comment the same thing. But at the same time I ignore alot of it because it's so depressing, real life is depressing.
I'll never understand why ethnic groups fight it just doesn't make sense, and that's says alot because I'm from South Africa
Luke Anthony Lack of education. Why do you think in the US, it isn't as bad as other countries? The more educated you are, the more that you will see that other people aren't bad. In the US though, people force it with their click bait and also justify that one issue is all issue. Some people feel entitled and I'm guessing they're the ones not well educated.
ploianderson so you saying that in the US, the people that make problems bigger than what they are by using click bait and over exaggerating are the uneducated one's?
When a country is in civil unrest it's hard to unify and stabilize the country, add inequality, lawlessness and testosterone to the mix and you have civil war.
Genghis Hazara Lol testosterone?
Luke Anthony it's more a matter of who got what and us versus them, coupled together to make a situation that pits them against each other
USA: *I'mma just pretend I didn't see that*
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Any nation: *Has oil*
USA: *Y O U W E R E S A Y I N G ?*
Haha cheap oil for my car go brrrr
@@jierude267 more like, oil for their war machines
Oil is last century's fuel. Need a new meme.
@Sonic Phil Yeah I'm American and I don't know why he included it
This simply isn’t true... Sudan has oil yet the U.S. isn’t that interested, proving the point against it. Afghanistan didn’t have much oil, yet we helped them. It’s almost like there are good people in the government or something...
American ambassador : "the rights of all people to govern themselves bla bla bla"
Hawaii : 😀
and any country in south america that the united states has overthrown democratically elected leaders (operation condor)
Every country in the ME
Middle East aswell 😂 and what about Palestinians 😂😂
Puerto Rico: 😄
I mean they killed most of the Hawaiian people right?/
This is what happens when a country is created based on a racial and religious conflict ... once the "other" is not there anymore, we find another "other" to fight.... internally.
But that's fairly much how all countries are created
Yea it happened with lamia, now they don't have Hindus so they fight with shia and ahmadiyas
As a Nuer person, this breaks my heart. I can’t believe so many people are being killed that are the same as me, my family included.
I’m really sorry for you and your family. Love from the United States 🇺🇸 🇸🇸❤️❤️❤️❤️
We will do nothing just like in Syria
Conscious warrior No, it's the reverse, because the travesty in Sudan has been going on years before Syria. But I agree with the do-nothing. 😎
Conscious warrior except make it worse
Syria is different, it's even more complicated than Sudan so 'doing something' is very difficult for the US or the UN
We shouldn't do anything in Syria except give people aid.
agreed Jalen. We stayed neutral in WWII until Japan attacked us.
I'm South Sudanese, my parents came from the dinka tribe they left south sudan around 2000 and went to Egypt then in 2001 my parents came to america. Yeah, dinka and nuer mostly don't get along.
The exact same thing happened to my family too.
Why is it that they don't get along? What do they fight about?
@@jacobjohnson8686 Tribal stuff also I think religion also plays a part in it
Do you think they can or does the country need to be split in half?
@@anari234 personally I really don’t know how to answer that, but I guess yes. Sudan and South Sudan is split because of religion and all types of different reasons. Different languages, religions, skin color.
I bet you the UN will still watch this happen. again and again and again-
Because this will never end no matter how many times they intervene
Bureaucracy is to blame
Gilbert Beilschmidt Its because of the rivalry between the Veto powers, Russia against the US.
MrMeddyman well they can always intervene before it happens lol
Not only that, but the un doesnt really have a huge reason to fight :/
One of the best Vox videos yet: informative, educative and clear. Exactly what you want to be aware of such issues.
this will probably be Rwanda 2.0
Probably not. In Rwanda nearly a million people were killed in acts of ethnic cleansing within the first 100 days of the purely sectarian 1994 conflict. This is way different. The South Sudanese civil wars been going on for four years now. Although lots of people have died, this is in a political conflict with sectarian undertones. Plus as of last year the situation was winding down with only an estimated 3000 or so people dying of it in 2015. Ever since 1994 people have been worried about genocide (rightly so). But this doesn't have the potential like Rwanda did.
Rowan McMullan I sure hope not, I wish the UN would step in, and block arm sales to the country, and send peacekeepers to keep both sides in order, but then you would have people whining
"THE UN IS TRYING TO CONTROL THE WORLD, ITS STEPPING INTO OTHER COUNTRIES, NEW WORLD ORDER CONFIRMED" you can't do anything without having people whining
yup
Why don't we just let them duke it out? Wars are an innate part of any country's history. This UN thing is getting annoying.
Yay. A sequel is always nice...
As a Dinka I wish South Sudan to have peace ❤️🙏🇸🇸
We suffered a lot 😩🙏🙏
I wish the best for you guys. From Sweden 🇸🇪🤝🇸🇸
@Naruto_2008 tysm
I'm from tigray region I seen enough genocied I hope bright future for sudan &, south sudan. Corrupt politician r virus to africa.
"United we stand, divided we fall"
Who care? Many factions still fight each other, when their nation be invaded.
Divide and conquer
Very tru
“We are such fails we fall united aswell as divided”
Anyone else back watching this video after the genocide actually started happening?
DatJellyJedi yes I’d say everyone who see it now is
About 400,000 now, and there's still the Corona Virus...
can someone explain why dont they divide the country again?
gökçe arslan
great idea. you should become the next UN secretary.
how many times do you divide? until every village has it own government?
until every member of the each family is its own president
There is no geographical divide between the 2 ethnic group as South Sudan (and Sudan) are very diverse. (This would require mass migration and mobilization for the biggest 2 group). Also the other 40+ groups may start a domino effect all aiming for an independent State.
We (the world) did to them as we did to Palestine-Israel in 1948.
gökçe arslan they also probably fight over land because of resources. If enemy territory has resources you want, then youre gonna want to fight them for it
3:31 VP guy "I might run against you in the next election"
President: "can't run against me in the next election if there ain't another election" *starts a civil war again*
I mean not wrong but also he could run against him in a civil war but we don’t talk about that
These are the kind of videos I subscribed to Vox for! Great work on trying to make people aware of issues like this to get more people involved
They forgot to mention that the root cause of the first conflict between the north and the south was originally established by the British colonialism, they basically enforced segregation system via closed zones preventing travel and trade between north and south for a long period of time causing a sense of detachment which ignited social divide and race issues.
So south sudan is new new sudan! How about we split South Sudan into South-East Sudan and South-West Sudan?
Theoniix They need to get it together. India split into pakistan and india to seperate religion. Ethnicity was able to hold themselves together making it diverse. South sudan could do the same
@@DanksterPaws But it didn't work properly, there's a lot of violence in the kashmir part of India.
Vox the best channel in the world
John Bapple The work they put into is MUCH more then most channels do.
The most politically biased channel in the world
Thorlek Dithrow *"Anything that doesn't agree with my bias is biased!"*
Don't trust me, I'm crazy i
Is your view of the world L.A?
these places are poor enough without fighting 😢
Good Job Vox. Just 51M more subscribers away from overtaking Pewdiepie
Hi Jack 48.5
Hi Jack lol
Hi Jack VOX subscribers have higher IQs than those dumb teenagers subscribed to PewDiePie.
Random stranger I'm subscribed to both. Not all VOX subscribers are intelligent and not all Pewdiepie Subscribers are dumb teenagers.
SdoubleA What about the majority of PewDiePie subscribers?
I'm a high school student in the International Baccalaureate diploma program, which is an international curriculum that ignores local curriculums. While all my generally educated friends are learning about Abraham Lincoln, we're learning about how HORRENDOUS the Rwandan Genocide was. The biggest thing that disgusted me was the complacency of the international community and the media's lack of interest. I'm so glad that channels like Vox are here to get the word out about these rising conflicts, people underestimate just how powerful the right media coverage can be in a situation as dire as this.
People say if europe didn't colonize africa then they'd be better off but here they are literally doing tribal wars just like 500 years ago. Nothing has changed
Just like Ukraine & Russia, whites killing whites
Honestly why can't there be just peace
eisa alaskar Humans cause Chaos, there will never be a time where theres actual peace. After years of war and we still don't have a year of peace? We try to bring unity, but fail so miserably. It'll take a long time until finally we get a day or an hour or a minute of peace. All we can do is to accept it.
Monarch Dream sadly you are true it's just isn't hard to just stop fighting and hold hands and sing 😞❤
+Andrew W this is useless and baseless cynicism. you cant make blanket statements on all of humanity's "nature"
***** Oh idk, Culture, Religion, Capitalism, ethnic differences, Resources? How does one just skip to "Human Nature" over all the material conditions on the earth?
Think about all the humans who have ever participated in wars (fighting in them). Lets just assume that is 1 Billion (even though its probably not even close), that still leaves 19 Billion Humans who've never engaged in violent wars.
Think about all the violent warlords and criminals whove ever existed in the world, then think about how many people are not violent criminals.
Yes there are millions of violent, hateful, abusive, and selfish people, but there are billions of people who are not like that. A few bad apples DON'T Spoil the bunch. The majority of humanity is good.
***** but there is no proven "Human Nature" that you can trace all human behavior/relations to. No code of conduct all humans are inherently programmed to live by.
You're oversimplifying.
It's a similar to the story of India and Pakistan... both of them got independent with the genocide of Hindus and sikhs. .. Pakistan again got divided to form Bangladesh... genocide of Bengali Muslims and Hindus... Pakistan could have shattered again but they kept fighting wars against India which kinda boosts their national integrity... otherwise there will be no Pakistan
Brewing Oleum Since Forever except that here you don't have two separate Territorys
David Rodriguez I think there is nothing which holds South Sudan together... e.g. war against Sudan kept them together...same is with Pakistan..their hatred against India keeps them together
I like how you mention genocide of Hindus during separation of pak and ind while COMPLETELY ignoring deaths of Sikhs and Muslims as well. Everyone suffered.
Razy Ahmed I m sorry if I forgot to mention Sikhs, I will edit it...but in case of Muslims I don't think it was a genocide...it was Mohammed Ali Jinnah who declared direct action against Hindus and Sikhs...lakhs of Hindus and Sikhs were raped, killed, robbed in Muslim majority areas...contrary to that...in India, Gandhi and other Congress leaders were continuously trying to calm down the people including Muslims...the fact is Congress was trying to represent whole country as one...but Muslim league was just working for Muslims...that's the difference... and that's why Pakistan is way behind India in all areas....rightly said ...one country reached to Mars...other country is still trying to enter the neighbouring country...
MA1433 rightly said...Asia and Africa are loaded with oil and other natural resources ...but they don't know how to harvest them.. US and other countries take advantage of that..
Veto power sucks
Lucy Hunt yea
Perhaps, but without it major powers would probably leave the UN and it would collapse just like the League of Nations did. Likewise imagine a bunch of 3rd world countries got together and outvoted the US/EU and imposed some measure which was bad for the US/EU, would you be cool with that? Veto cuts both ways.
Neko Tamo
"Likewise imagine a bunch of 3rd world countries got together and outvoted the US/EU and imposed some measure which was bad for the US/EU, would you be cool with that?"
Yes, because that's what "Democracy" means. If you have even the SLIGHTEST problem with what you described, that's what being a corrupt dictator is.
not really. What sucks is China. China world cancer
For countries like India, veto sucks. Our neighbor China keeps misusing it.
I always like these videos because they shed a light on something I'd never even heard of, but they make me feel guilty and then don't tell me what I could help do to stop it.
Two Coups don't make a Sedan
bar
Sam' onella reference
Loving these current event videos you guys are releasing. I had no idea this situation was even going on.
One interesting question it made me ask was how do we define holocaust vs a civil or ethnic war? Are they considered the same thing as long as people are being killed based on their socio-cultural identity?
Not really. The holocaust was simply a government program of ethnic cleansing. Civil wars are different.
KONY 2012
jack mihoff largest scam ever
I wonder what happened to Kony. Did they ever catch him?
- Every former KONY 2012 "activist" right now.
2017 is gonna suck
Just think - 2016 was only the opening act.
The heroes are stepping out of the shadows this year. World is at stake, time to build our future.
Daniel Beck is 2020 the closing show?
Daniel Beck "gonna"
it already has.
These types of wars a ridiculous. I really hope they find a solution before it's too late
It would be interesting to see an update on this, Vox.
This is incredibly sad but I really feel that if a country decides to intervene or not, they'll be criticised. It's not a decision to take lightly and must be done right.
Who's here after the war ended?
It already ended? What happened?
@@asherayeras9200 oh u didn't know, in early 2020 riek machar and salva kiir signed a peace agreement which salva kiir would serve as president and riek machar would serve as vice president also there were 4 more VPs and they decided to start a camp to train all soldiers regardless together
@@asherayeras9200 also they expanded the legislature for equal representation for all parties
@Okie Doki not yet
Once a trouble maker, always a trouble maker. The south sudan started the chaos at the beginning. After they gained independent, they are fighting each other. It's the people.
"They are slightly different from us so let's fight them"
Basically Europe for most of its history.
@@NoCluYT Basically most of humanity
@@ReubenLL28 yeah pretty much
*_Who needs American Support when you got a Black Cowboy Hat, It’s just common sense_*
Just a few more days until this awful year is over 🎉🎉🎉
hallelujah
Life is going to be awful for years to come for these people in South Sudan.
Rey C. Yes, 2016 might end, but that doesn't mean that the problems that we face will.
yeah. and welcome the worst year to date: 2017.
Arbitrary numbers indicating the passage of time will do nothing to end those problems.
this is so distressing but I'm glad Vox covers these issues. thank u. now how can we help fix it?
“Anyway, that’s all for today. I’m Sam O’ Nella and thank you for watching.”
It’s disturbing how little information is coming out of the area now in 2024 still. There’s so much atrocities but even just trying to learn more about updates and how to help people if it has been difficult
They forgot to say the northerners are mostly arab and detested the very dark skinned black south sudanese (dinka, nuer, etc.)
This is about Sotuh Sudan though.
Yes exactly the north still mistreat the south sudanese because of their complexion and looks. Lets not forget they still enslave the south sudanese
well I guess "the very dark skinned black south sudanese (dinka, nuer, etc.)" treat each other very gently
After watching this, I feel proud to be an Indian. We are the most diverse populace in the world with over a thousand different languages and dialects. Dozen or more religious groups, and still we keep our differences aside and make it through every adversity coming our way. We have a lot of problems, but this is something that should make every Indian proud.
jumbovs I steal don't get it how you do that
jumbovs Are you going to disregard the caste system? It is one of the worst systems in the world.
jumbovs Are you sure about that? Are you telling me parents would approve of someone marrying someone in a lower caste in big cities? You are pretty much lying right now. As for job apportunities for someone in a lower caste is minimal to none. The caste system in India is ingraved into the culture. It doesn't matter whether it is a big city or not. India has a bigger GDP than South Sudan and the fact that South Sudan is a 5 year old country makes it ridiculous for you to compare it to India.
jumbovs
Is India even a peaceful place?
fay guled I think you are more clueless than I am. I wasn't comparing the economic prowess of the two nations. I was talking about the ethnic and religious disparity. India for several centuries has been open to all kinds of cultures and religions. It makes sense to compare both because of the ethnic turmoil South Sudan is going through with only two major factions whereas India continues to harbour a population which is exponentially more diverse.
Regarding the marriage quotient, you are right, but partially. Inter-caste marriage isn't very common but it's changing fast. People tend to marry into their own caste or religion, mostly because they have a certain amount of familiarity to the traditions and customs of their own caste. In India, tradition plays a huge role from birth till a man dies. People don't want to let go of that culture easily so they prefer someone from their own caste, so they can keep that going.
I'll give you some facts and you can make up your mind after that.
US: Interracial marriages - 8.4%
India: Intercaste marriages - 11.4%
Feel free to ask me for the source of these statistics. Though, I'm not someone who likes to belittle someone, according to surveys US actually fares worse than India. Despite being mostly homogenous in terms of religion, culture and language, still US fares a lot worse.
My advice to you: It's easy to point out problems but difficult to solve them. Don't be predisposed to make certain assumptions when you clearly are ignorant about what's going on. I, despite being an Indian am mostly ignorant about my own country. US despite being called the most progressive nation still fares worse than India on a similar quotient.
Caste system indeed is bad. But it's difficult to cleanse it easily from its roots because India is still less than 7 decades old and caste based discrimination started to become a taboo only after independence. The government gives more than ample opportunity to the people coming in lower caste category. 52.5 % of all government jobs and seats in educational institutions are reserve for lower caste category. Due to this, the lower caste sections who moved to cities and applied for reserved jobs enjoy a higher standard of living than a person from unreserved category. That's because it's relatively a lot easier to secure a job, if you belong to a reserved category as the cut off score is very low. I don't know what else to add. If you think I'm lying, you can look it up or I can provide the source of my info.
Adios!
P. S. I'd suggest you to talk to any friend who emigrated from India. And ask him about the situation. Perhaps you will get a better insight.
The civil war ended in February 2020 because of the ceasefire agreement, and now the two rivals formed together a coalition government. Least already now, it stopped from becoming another Rwandan genocide, but the damage has been done still...
@@ramenlover1727 It's just not very simple. There are many things that needed to be done, and it's all about disagreements that oftentimes erupt into violence.
2:36 60 ethnic groups in a place so small. It's incredible
Africa is more diverse than the universe kid That's why you should love it!!!
@@Elieditssportvids its also not a good thing tho. We suffer too much tribalism because of it
I really want my country and South Sudan to be one country again. We can live differently this time. We are not too different. There will be no racism or discrimination like before. We will build a mixture of Mosques and Churches across the new Sudan and live together in harmony. We can spread the oil across the country and be the biggest and mightiest African country. I hope Bashir and his cronies are given capital punishment so we can finally move on from that history. Dubai and London are examples of places that can live together in a multicultural and multi religious land. The same can happen for Sudan and SS and I really hope it does.
South Sudanese people : You have freed us!
Salva Kiir and Reik Machar : Oh I wouldn’t say “freed” more like “under new management”
As an African American I find it interesting that there are different ethic groups amongst Africans, in America Black is just one racial/ethnic group. Shows how much I know about my heritage.
The Visionary Africa is very diverse continent
African slaves were brought from around Africa to the Americas. Little regard was given to recording where those slaves came from. Few records were kept about slave lineages.
Doubly so when you consider how often slave owners, the slave master's employees and the slave master's guests interbred with the slaves, thus creating babies who were half European and half African.
Thus African Americans know little of where their ancestors came from.
It's the same with Asians. In Asia, they all hate each other, but in regions like Singapore, Malaysia, and the US where different Asian groups intermingle and just accept they all eat rice.
because you dont know where you from..an ethnicity is a folkloric identity not a national one...africa still doesnt understood that. civism over tribalism. its the solution.
I think I wanna worry more about safe spaces and sexist string cheese for a bit longer, those are the REAL problems.
Lighterz what's 'string cheese'.
Assuming this was sarcasm; you aren't taking into account that for much of our history the US has been isolationists except when they absolutely deemed it necessary (often financially) to intervene. We are also as a people insulated by our extremely large economy, from the sway and flux of the world around us. This issue in Sudan, for example, has absolute 0 effect on 99.9% of the US population. Weather there is a genocide or not, all that will happen is people will ignore it or they will post a picture/comment about their thoughts and prayers or whatever else people do on facebook these days.
see: straw man argument, false dichotomy
Son Goku Yeah, people used the same rhetoric back during ww2. "Who cares what hitler is doing all the way across the sea in europe? It doesn't affect me personally." I think there's a difference between pointless wars like the iraq and vietnam wars and stopping a genocide. People hid behind the monroe doctrine and isolationism in the events leading up to ww2 and its interesting to see they are still hiding behind it.
Henry Leopold
There is a difference - the difference is the economic impact it will have on the US. And Sudan has almost none, unlike the oil rich countries in the Middle East.
But Many people will say it is because Colonialism that this happened.
+Kev San it is in part because of colonialism, just look at India, it was a British colony as well, there seem to be a pattern here, and of course its also because people there can't resolve their differences and put their priorities right.
Kev San What Kodema and Skyshocke are explaining is the painfully obvious.
Well, no.
Fruitpunch That's why I had to mention the part where its also those people's fault. Its not either colonialism or those people's fault, such a false dichotomy.
One major cause of this was colonialism. More specifically, it was how the colonizers split up the continent. The borders they put down was wildly off from the many diverse ethnic groups there, many of which were enemies of each other. When the colonies gained independence, these bad borders still remained.
Peace is an illusion
Chris G thanks zenyatta for your insight
Humans are incapable of peace
2:34 Is my favorite part- "And then everything fell apart"
Fire nation attacked
Hey Vox, killer videos. But as much as I'm able to build a fighting war-machine-in-a-suit and program a home computing system that's witty, sometimes I have trouble making creative visualizations like the ones you do.
Are you considering putting out any courses on data visualization (or making infographics) in the future for us to check out?
Literally just watched this yesterday and now there seems like there is peace in South Sudan
South Sudan has a minister of peace? Double-plus-ungood.
Kah Weng Chok your ministry of truth is double-plus good
*somebody's* getting fired
somebody never existed, it is just a figment of your imagination, comrade. even big brother say so, and he is always right.
I am Sudanese and my relation with south Sudanese was playing in street all day with Barefoot and nothing called home since every house in the block is my home ,if you are African you probably understand what I mean, really love my brother and one day they had to leave by force of both governments, we all been crying . it started even before the independent of sudan from. the british was dividing the country just like the way it is now even in laws it was diffrent than the norh sudan wich was the spark of some reccemee, by the eurbian colonianesem that that in many countries in afriaca by purpose in inorder to make african alwayes in need for them. anyway Early early 1940s, from the last century groups of American missionsaries came to south sudan wich had had some local religions and they started to spread the Christianity and teaching them "thier rights" as they were claiming, wich was supeesd to be teaken from the northen goverment in case of undependent wich the northen ware lookedly looking for and most of them ware audocated and it was clear that they will teak power in case of indepenence, wich is exactly was the case. and since the firs day of our independent the they started asking for there right in resources and high position in goverment, that voice was by some political leader wich are now the leaders of south sudan and they ware alwayes armed and do not ask me where they got that arms from wich was enough to supplite the longest war in the history of africa wich is more than 50 years. US goverment was alwayes telling our southern brothers that after there independent the will be the swiss of africa and i am witing for that Swiss to become exist since have a lot of homes there in my country.
Division really does lead to more division.
y2 S Indeed
This is pretty bad, but I just went to Burger King and their grill wasn't working so I couldn't get a cheeseburger. Make a video about that Vox, you won't.
pointlessfailure Attention seeker.
Bandwagons are a Disease #L and you gave me exactly what I was looking for, thank you
As someone from South Sudan it breaks my heart how much hope is in my country yet that hope is perishing by this fighting. My parents and I left home when I was only one years old and currently live in the U.S. I wish I could be like other foreigners where they’re able to go back to their homeland for vacation but I cannot do that. 😓🇸🇸
cozy b4e hey 👋🏾 i’m from Darfur. what gets me about the whole situation was the separation in the first place. Why would you split when the real devils are Bashir and his kleptocrats-they’ve been the ones largely responsible for the horrible treatment of the south. A properly function democracy should have been installed as a opposed to just splitting the country and expecting results 🙁
Halim Adams Hi I’m from North Sudan I pray until Omar al bashit leaves Sudan. So a new man can lead and hopefully help the situation we are Sudan in the end no south north east or west we are one I hope someday we help you guys.
What’s your tribe
why doesn't youtube's shitty algorithm stop putting completely irrelevant and unimportant (not even trending videos) in the trending section and put this... or stop taking money from companies to put their videos in the section
Ohhh. You didn't know how on point you are
The things that people are talking about now are in Sudan and not South Sudan
Thank God there's peace in South Sudan now. All that is over
Diplomacy can only go so far political will for peace is required by combatants on the ground . This goes for every ongoing conflict
for peace we need...war????
explain this gnarly logic to me pls
rea goldson First I never said we need war for peace . Basically what I mean is that for diplomacy to work combatants or parties involved in a dispute must believe that the diplomatic way is to way forward. If any side believes that they can gain an advantage militarily than diplomacy won't work . Or if peace and diplomacy costly politically , because remember peace has a price . Some leaders don't want diplomacy for fear of appearing to "back down"
Im putting this out there because humans are monsters. If it saves the lives of a larger group, i would end someone's life. If you study history, you get that humans are really scary monsters, and as much as some hate being human, truth be told, the world dosent care. If you can solve problems peacefully, then do it, but if military force is the better option, use it. The argument then becomes, whats the better option here..
That's exactly the problem with giving independance to a new state governed by warlords and militias, hard to find solid foundation for a well functionning state since the separatist leadership only motivated by power and external sponsorship.
This was very informative to everyone we all wanted peace guys
It's officially done the rebel leader become vp again , but we have one problem , food crisis
i wish your voice didnt put me into a hypnotic trance every time i watch one of your videos, because the content itself is incredibly interesting and relevant hahah
2:21 the country shall be free
the guy then it fell apart
I came here from Sam o Nella academy.
My friend's mom was a teenager during the Rwanda genocide and his grandpa died in it:(
Thanks for the video gave more insight as to what is happening there.
I'm from Sudan my self and I always just looked at it like it's just their second nature to keep fighting until they get tired without comprehending the scale of the conflict going on
Why did you use the photo of the President of Argentina for Salva Kiir at 2:52?
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America wanted South Sudan to be independant? Get it back into Sudan, ASAP.
But that does not fix the civill waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
Namely George W Bush and George Clooney.
Great video! very informative, put us up-to-date of what's happening in the world we live in and that we had no idea was happening. I find this matter of african civil wars very complicated and unfortunately we're not close of seeing this ends. The very creation of the countries caused the civil wars: the made-up boundaries, the colonialism of the 19th century and now who pay the price for it, is everyone who had absolutely nothing to do with it! All european nations profited from Africa and left them ruined. with made-up countries in which pressure built up and has been released into a series of civil wars. Honestly, at this point, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
This was very informative, thank you!
News there wasn't finally a genocide and Riek Machar became again vice-president and Salva Kiir stayed president so basically they did seven years of war for nothing
UK: Divides India and Pakistan
UK: Didn't divide Sudan and South Sudan
Countries that hate each other are united and countries that love each others are divided by UK
India and Pakistan are literally the countries that hate each other the most
@@ayushthosar6005 yea because they were divided
African decolonialism was rushed which lead to the bad borders
This is so sad! I have a kid in my class who's parents came from Sudan :(
5:23 that headline looks too familiar😬😳
fr 💀
it was the russian hackers
Petek121 Classy, joking about genocide.
Pacific Alliance can't take an internet joke?
They basically created another India-Pakistan situation❗️🤦🏻♂️
@@anyaperceives this my dialect of english
you should rather focus on the topic or stop your butthurt comments
the moral of the story? the us wont intervene in south sudan unless it has oil
I'm an african and i fully admit tribalism is just a nightmare for the continent and it can lead to ethnic cleansing of different tribes.
"And then everything fell apart"
I am quite surprised as to how Vox can bash Trump, even on a video about an African country, they found a way.
It's in every single one :D
Too bad that Generation Z is more and more inclined to the right wing.
Figures... Kids are being born into this political correctness bullshit, people want to rebel, people want freedom, and so they go right wing.
Suits me right ;)
Man O' War 💀Who lied to you? The Republican Party literally only makes up 27% of the country, the only way you people are physically able to win elections is through the electoral college. The Democratic Party percentages rises each year while the republicans lower. If you look up voting and race by statistics the majority of republicans are old white men in the middle of the country. When they die off that’s it, the reason why the right wing discourages immigration is because most immigrants become democrats. Generation z is highly liberal and the Republican Party is a dying minority. Democrats won the popular vote by over 8 million votes. The next generation is growing up in the trump era, in the next 60 years the Republican Party isn’t gonna be here, you do know that right? I mean just look at your party right now, I’ve talked to many republicans who are becoming independents because right wingers have seemed to have trump derangement syndrome.
This is great. Thanks VOX.
I'd watch more of this and less of the comedic filler like 2016ish any day of the week.
We cannot force peace upon them. Let them do what they want.
“At the time, the World stood by and watched the slaughter of 800,000 people. It said it would never allow that to happen again, but it has” so sad how that is all too familiar
Last year 600,000 tigrayan where killed over ethnic and and issue as to remove them from history. War lasted 2y
The world doesn't care
@@A.D.540 That is just horrible. I hate how the International Community rarely intervenes in these problems
@@MustacheCashStash125The worst part wasn't even said. The UN DID send peacekeepers but they didn't allow them to properly protect the Tutsi victims because it wasn't seem as "important enough" to help. On average, five people died a second