I agree. Music have it's places, you can add some in some places for comical or dramatic effect. But generally these kinds of videos are far more enjoyable without music. Great videos otherwise. I enjoy them.
as a teenager I spun a rod bearing, over revved engine, was too poor to buy new motor, or used motor. so I pulled oil pan, & bought 1 rod bearing, back then you could get 1 bearing, 35+ years ago, I polished crank with wet/dry 600 grit paper, lubricated with kerosene, & used a shoestring wrapped around paper on rod journal. it worked. now when I put new rod bearing in, rod was loose on crankshaft, so I removed & took the cap & sanded cap on 400 grit paper, glued to a piece of glass, I know I only did 1 side, but I managed to tighten clearances, & I drove car for over 25k miles without issues, I was always afraid to mash throttle too hard, & it lasted until I was able to get another car & was a little more financially stable. the car was a 1964 Impala, & that engine is still in it, & it has been siting close to 30 years in my back yard.
I had a cam shaft bearing spin. Put new bearings in but they wouldn't hold. Ended up drilling a hole and pinning the bearings with rivets and smoothing them down. It worked and was still working 25k miles later when I sold it. Cam shaft bearings don't have to take anything like the punishment delivered to crank shaft bearings.
@@AccountSpace lol, not at moment, I also have another 64 that was bought after it, & a 1961, which I am working on, that my dad bought new, & I plan to drive soon, I also have a 1972 Nova for everyday car, & fixing a 1966C10 truck & have a 1961 Dodge dump truck I need to get on the road to haul gravel. I also drive a Roush truck as a daily driver, & my back & forth to work beater is just a Ford Festiva. lol. so I have enough cars on the road for the moment, plus 2 custom Harleys. I do have a few other cars, & not planning to fix at present, like 2 other Novas from my youth, a 68 Ford Thunderbird, a 1967 big block Dodge Polara my grandpa bought new. as well as a few others, like MGBs, Datsun 510s, & may old VW bugs & busses
@@randymack1782 What an inventory! Sounds like you have great stuff. Too many for a lifetime of restorations. Pick a half dozen of your favorites and pass the rest onto people that will give them the TLC they deserved. This will help fund the work on the ones you keep. Don't be the guy who dies with a lot full of rusted out relics who always thought some day . . . Should have, could have, would have. Nothing is worse than being a party to letting them rest away in the yard. Don't make your kids have to clean up that mess, have a few restored drivers to pass on to them.
Ive been a mechanic for 20 years and these are my favorite kind of jobs. Doing that deep engine work and getting positive results at the end. But nothing sucks worse after doing a job like this and then finding out the repair didn't work and the engine is garbage. Had plenty of those experiences too. Glad this one worked out.
I had a brother in law who had a busy garage,he stayed away from rebuild work he might replace a head gasket or even send them out,he was an experienced guy that worked for a ford dealer for many years.Then he went into his own business, He stuck to bread and butter work and made good money,too much of a headache replacing,overhauling engines.Brakes water pumps fuel pumps diag jobs thats what he did!Have to make money,not tie up the shop!He could do it but stayed away,got to put food on the table!Unfortunatly he passed away a while ago,I think he had the right idea for his shop.
I am so glad that I found Rainman Ray's Repairs. I am a backyard mechanic that learned from watching my dad and his friend since I was a kid. Rebuilt my first engine back in 1980 when I was 16. Having this knowledge helps understand what he is doing. But, I can honestly say that I have learned QUITE a bit since watching these videos. I really like how he takes you through everything step by step. NO ASSUMING that those of us watching knows what he is doing or about to do. These are easily, in my opinion the best videos on auto repair that I have seen throughout the years. Keep up the GREAT work and keep those videos coming. Rainman Ray, AWESOME JOB !!!
@@RainmanRaysRepairs Perfect! The music was just a huge annoyance, anyway. Being half deaf, I couldn't understand what you were saying over top of it because it sad so loud, AND it was obnoxiously repetitive.
A story from my childhood... I had a Maverick with a 250. I acquired a 302 that I wanted to swap in, but my Dad was against that until I had a bit more experience under my belt. I determined that I would run that 250 hard as I could, with very little oil in it, to speed up the upgrade. It took several months before it developed a slight knock. Not wanting to reveal my plan, I mentioned that I needed to borrow Mom's car that night for the school dance as my car was sounding a little funny, and I didn't want to risk damaging it or getting stranded with my date. Dad turned around and reached into the junk drawer (everyone's kitchen has one, right?) and pulled out a box of bearings and some plastigage. I ended up changing out the bearings, laying in our gravel driveway (we had 1 asphalt and 1 gravel drive) just in time to break them in on the drive to pick up my date for the dance. I went through several other cars, building and flipping (a self funding hobby for me back in the day), but kept the Maverick, with the 250 in it, for several years and many thousands of miles, until some kid that reminded me of me talked me out of it...
I remember the first car I owned it was a 1975 Mercury Grand Marquis. My dad and I bought it from the junkyard as a project car for my 16th birthday. The engine has blown. It originally has a 400 Ford engine, but we put the 351 Windsor in it. We had to special order the pressure hose for the power steering pump, modify the engine mounts by cutting through the Front crossmember, and change the bell housing (They are slightly different, could mount up, but my dad wanted me to have the experience.) but we got it done. Shortly after, I was working for the summer detassling corn. My brother was on the same crew. I went out to play a little bit, and was too confident in my abilities. I ran into the ditch and needed a pull out of it. I got a hole in the gas tank. By that time, my dad has died from a heart attack. My mom said to put some JB Weld on it and take her from Kahoka, MO to Muscatine, IA. I did. She called the police on me in Muscatine. I got arrested and lost my car.
you guys did a great job saving that old ford,I am a 40 year veteran in the field, hard to find guys like you willing to take a chance on a risky job, thanks for sharing!!!
I have done this kind of work several times many years ago but I'd only do it for my own vehicles because of the risk involved doing it for a customer who is going to pay dearly for this kind of rescue work and it's very hard to guarantee longevity of any sort if you're being realistic. Great job though!
You cannot possibly have any idea how much these videos have taught me. From having no idea what a crank bearing even looked like and wondering if I'd have to learn to pour babbitt to believing I might even be able to do a job like that myself even lying on my back under the car. You might call the videos long but they are worth every second. Thanks loads!
That should not teach you anything that is absolutely the wrong way to do something it's a Band-Aid at best at bearing spun on the crank and the rod and it will fail again without doubt so unless you just want to put a Band-Aid on something and get by for a bit longer do not do that
@@raymondholley1009 yeah obviously it's a bandaid if the bearing hadn't spun however this isn't a bad method. I've seen people get low oil pressure and just repair the rod bearing and it works out just fine, but yeah this is a repair to get you by until you can get another vehicle or engine.
@@raymondholley1009 I spun a bearing in my 1973 GTO on my way to work. It was a very ugly knock. After work, I stopped at a NAPA auto parts and picked up a set of standard size rod bearings. The next day I was under that old goat pulling the oil pan. I performed a plastigauage test to insure the new bearings would allow sufficient oil clearance. Then torqued in sequential specs as per the maual. That GTO flippin ran strong for years after that with no problems. How did I spin a rod bearing in the first place? I checked my oil the day before and noticed a quart low on the dip stick. But the next morning in a hurry to get to work, I hauled ass as i took the off ramp down shifting at high RPM’s and thats when the knocking began. Always maintain oil capacity.
I would have just changed out the whole engine with a good used engine from a junk yard. As I have done in the past. Just get an engine with half the mileage out of a wrecked car.
All well and good as long as you have the resources to pull an engine. Most people don't, and this is a job you can do with basic tools & some jack stands
I was a teenager when I heard about spun bearings. I asked what that meant and no one I knew could explain it, the closest answer was that it's really bad. Now, after all these years, it's crystal clear, thanks to this video.
Spinning a bearing means you are screwed. This customer must be a friend or family of someone at the shop. I wouldn't even consider this an option for a stranger; too much liability. And hopefully the customer understands that he is TOTALLY GAMBLING what i imagine is at least $600-$800 on this "repair". We did this in the 1980's, usually so the customer could immediately trade-in the car. Thus, we never knew how long before engine needed more internal work.
@@hightttech "Spinning a bearing means you are screwed." Indeed, lol. Looks like the decision to go ahead with this remedy was purely driven by financial reasons. I imagine for the customer, the choices were not too plentiful and this was the least financially painful way to have a running car in their possession. I'm not an advocate of kicking a problem down the road, however long or short that may be, but hopefully the customer will be in better financial standing to deal with this issue when it needs to be addressed again. Oh, and hope they learned it's far easier and cheaper to change/check the engine oil from now on.
Same frustration here, and finally understand the reason. The vast majority of people who work on cars are ‘math brains’… i.e. they are good at ciphering, but not so good at readin’ and rightin’. They don’t have the vocabulary to explain in words to a novice.
Spinning a bearing can just mean you need to dress the crank, then do what rays doing. It's based on what you actually find. If the bearing eats up the rod, then you have to pull the head to get that piston out.
It's refreshing to see a mechanic who actually takes the time to try to repair the engine, rather than just throwing up their arms and proclaim, "Nope, needs a motor."
I agree, in this case it was caught before irreparable damage was caused, so there's a lesson for all here.... if your car has a problem at least get it diagnosed so you don't make an expensive paper weight.
The total hours of labor for this would have probably covered an engine swap. If you knew for sure you were buying a good motor, the labor cost would ensure you are getting your money's worth. This might work, but long term is unknown.
And then there's the question of guarnatee: in this case, if the customer comes back after a week with the bushings spun again, now what? (on top of that, he will ask for his money back...)
@@brad3741 No, this WILL work. I've done it, and so have lots of other people. If the rods aren't damaged (they weren't) and the crank isn't totally hammered to death (it wasn't) just changing the bearings will get you many more years out of it. The bearings are deliberately the soft part of the system so they take almost all of the wear when things go bad, as long as you don't drive it so long that the bearings actually leave and the rod is hitting the crank. I've done the same thing on a Pontiac Grand Am with maybe a worse knock than this, and I didn't even smooth the crank like he did. 40k and 4 years later, it's still running and sounding like new. My neighbor is using it now.
Great job! The first time I did that exact same job was on a Humber Super Snipe back in the late 70s. It's generally always the end rod bearing furthest away from the oil pump that fails completely, as it's the last one in line for oil when the pressure drops due to starvation, but obviously get a set and change them all as you did. No point in worrying too much about the crank main (or axial) bearings, as they generally don't suffer so badly when there's oil starvation, and in any case it's often not possible to remove the ones at either end of the crank without major dismantling. That engine should go on for many more miles. Well done!
He didn't sand the journals very well. That would concern me. On my car it was the #3 rod that spun (3rd from the pump). And I was able to get all but 1 upper main bearing out because it didn't have an oil hole in the crank for me to rotate it out.
The "I'm mad because I didn't get enough oil" knock is a sign of a short-term life, I'd be highly surprised if it made it another 91k. Who knows where the next flake of bearing material will rear it's unwanted appearance. ✌✌
Oil did not look that bad. I've seen one that had black and clumpy oil in it, had to change twice in rapid succession because first change loosened all the gunk and blocked the oil filter (wonder where oil pressure went).
Great job! I think most mechanics would have told the customer you need a new motor instead of doing that work. Nice to see an honest mechanic doing an honest job.
Most of the time the crankshaft and connecting rod are way too gone. Easier and sometimes cheaper to just get a new/used engine unless doing modifications.
Maaaan, I could've died not knowing that this half general repair of the engine can be done from beneath the car. My eyes are opened! So happy I've found this channel! Great job Ray! And I just love those Too-Loo-Loo phone ring imitations.
Loved the video. Very professional. But noticed on first pass through that the pick up tube brace was only finger tightened. Maybe tightened off camera. Great to see a true mechanic at work.
excellent repair. Soooo refreshing to see someone take the time for proper analysis and then thorough process. People like you are so good for the industry and of course, the customer.
Man i did like this, I love that satisfaction of fixing something where you don't quite know if you are going to fix it and it is absolutely perfect when you are finished.
Great video. My only thing is that, when I'd watch my uncle rebuild a motor like this he'd take the caps off and push the pistons up with the spark plugs removed, then use high powered air to blow thru the journal oil holes to make sure no tiny particles of metal got into the crank oil system. I know this because that was what he'd put me doing so I got all nasty from it since he did all this laying on the concrete (no lift) and I'd look like an oil refinery exploded on me..lol. I do know that, sometimes there would be small metal filing come out those oil holes. And if they did he'd use a pressurized oil device (of his creation) to force oil thru the crank to make sure it was flushed inside completely. Not sure if this is needed anymore with today's engines as this was on old 60s and 70s engines from Chevy, Dodge, or Fords. He paid me in the early 70s around $10 for each one I blew air into and $15 for it if I had to use the pressurized oil thru it. Yeah, young kids for your dirty work was a great thing...haha. Anyway, only thing I saw you didn't do so wasn't sure if it's needed anymore. Love watching your vids. I learn a lot watching. Mostly you guys get paid more hassle than you should from people who think things are so easy to do and shouldn't take more than 10 to 15 minutes, not knowing you, sometimes have to remove half the topside or reach into spots that are tight and on hot engines. Keep it up, bro. Maybe the world will find out it's not a simple fix always and lay off your backs. Take care.
This is a really great video! Rarely do you see mechanics do an in-frame bearing change. That was a really smart idea you had. I've done that on a tractor before, and a few other times on cars, and people don't realize - it really works! Great job! 👍
I love your dilligence, you work as a surgeon on your jobs. I remember rebuilding engines under a shed or a pecan tree back in the 1970s on my Dodge Challenger R/T 383 and also on a Ford truck 300ci straight 6. I didn't have the luxury of a lift, only a chain hoist and rope slung over a tree limb or lying on my back on a piece of cardboard. I used STP to lube the crank bearings back then, but this brings back so many memories. Great job brother!
Love stuff like this. The “save it if possible” approach needs to be a standard across more shops. Takes more skills and knowledge to repair than just replace. Nicely done!
If a tech (today, they are not mechanics most of them anyway) cant hook up a computer to ur car n the computer say, change the bearings, they're not going to know its even possible to change em let alone how to do it.
A tech goes to school from his highschool auto shop where he learns general repair based on what's done that he can witness. What he can read, what he may be taught, to going to tech school at a voc tech class, to a college of automotive tech. Several teachers may show how to teardown and measure for repair and obtaining the parts list information and ways available to address the issues they find. Larger schools with engine lab and a whole department may demonstrate the machine work. If a technician takes the full program, he has to be able to do all the work of an engine rebuild. They get engines from a yard and assign them to lab teams. The team has to be able to fully fill out their lab requirements and produce a running engine at the close of the program. What they are limited on is parts. With no paying customer, it's reuse most of it having learned and reassembled. If it's gutshot, they teardown another one. Once a technician starts his apprenticeship, it all starts over again with night school. The teachers are mastertech from car dealers if he's in a union. There's alot of thought required and alot of hours, days, weeks, months, and years. The spouse spends alot of time at home without him. He comes home sometimes and collapses in his dinner. Other programs require more self study and don't have engineers for teachers. But mastertech can teach you what's not in any book. It's alot to learn. And alot of tools to buy. Then you learn from journeymen on the job. When you get a job like ray has been assigned here, there's judgement that enters in. That sparkly oil that was in the pan, has been run through that oiling system. The pump, the cam, the galleries, every orifice can be holding on to small pieces of catastrophic carnage making bits. He had best clean and inspect every aspect and know that engines bulletins. The customer may expect ray to use his crystal ball. There isn't one. Ray needs to be sure that guy understands, this is an in the pan set of bearings, hopefully an oil pump, and a gallery flush. The mains haven't been inspected. I hope he does that. Cross your fingers. If some other failure occurs, the customer needs to have that idea explained before saying fix my #6 rod bearing and dress my crank journal only. They need that paperwork with his signatures and initials. If a job like this goes haywire later, it can be a very bad day. Then somebody has to buy a shortblock . And about thirty hours. Or another combination of parts and labor. Because Taurus platform cars are so labor intensive, it could be why they did this instead of demanding a remanufactured engine. You don't want to pull that one. I've seen techs lose their ass on major power train repair on these.
Oh rats! You have displayed a new wrench type= ratcheting crows foot. Now I need to buy a set in Imperial and a Metric one. You can never have too many tools. More to the point, you're an excellent technician and I appreciate your videos. These two are great. Many thanks, Ray. Have a Great Day. If you're a father, Happy Father's Day.
I noticed those wrenches too. If I was still wrenching for a living I would be buying a set. Hell, I only work on my own stuff now and I am STILL contemplating it...
One of the strangest rebuilds I did was on a 50's GM 135 six cylinder engine that an old man used to haul empty metal barrels around in his truck. The old man didn't get over 45 mph and didn't want to spend much money on the engine. So I rebuilt the head, guides, ground the valves , seals etc. Then I used the crankshaft paper as you did in this video to polish the rod throws. When I started the engine up the oil gauge nearly pegged and even at running temp it had like 40 lbs of oil pressure which greatly puzzled me at first. Then I remember that the rod throws on the crank were egg shaped and the gap between the bearings and the crank created an oil pump effect! The old man drove that truck several more years before he gave out but the truck didn't! lol
You did a great job. I bet it makes you feel real good that you’re able to do that for someone and provide them with reliable transportation. I’m proud of you for taking the time and being honest about it not just trying to sell him a new engine.
Have to say, after watching the whole first part and this one. I was even glad to hear it run without a knock. Great vid and great job on the engine. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and posting your vids. Also shows you enjoy your job and take that extra step in care for each vehicle. That is a true mechanic. I might have been a crew chief on jets, but all crews like to say it is just another day in paradise. (1990 305th AFRES)
Wow old school mechanic here never thought any were left,guess that one went out the door with no guarantee, but A+++ for effort and it worked, I was a generator mechanic with the 101 Airborne in Vietnam I would take parts out of one to make another work sometimes because it was so hard to get a replacement never changed spun bearings though, we were good abought our oil changes mostly carb and electrical issues, you are an inspiration!
Most of the vids I watch are of very old cars being dragged out of a barn and just made to run again, which is great, but this fella goes right into the engine and explains everything great. He is a master at this stuff. Most enjoyable.
I was amazed at your skill and knowledge! Thanks for making these informative and highly interesting lessons in how it should be done. I hope they're paying you the big bucks!
Boy! This brings back memories for me. I was on a hunting trip in my 69 GTO when my engine spun a bearing. Put two cans of STP in and tried to nurse it home. Got ten miles down the road when a hand grenade went off in my engine. Saw a swath of oil and debris in my rear View mirror, but coasted to the side of the road. My buddy was a professional mechanic and he walked me through the rebuild. After I got the engine installed it was a real blast to hear it fire up perfectly the first time I turned the key!
I'm glad to had came across this 2 part video. I'm currently rebuilding a 4.3L v6 vortec and there's a couple little tricks you did that I've found useful, thanks again!
The owner of that car must have really loved it, because this work would be incredibly expensive. You sir are an artist, a mechanic who has a passion for what they do & not just a job, you really did take a lot of pride in that, much respect to you.
He said it was a kid who bought the car and never changed the oil. He rebuilt the bottom end for a few shop hours and some parts. Few hundred bucks maybe. I hope the kid was grateful and starts doing oil changes.
I'm so glad you performed this repair in this exact manner, it gives credence to an almost identical repair I performed a little over 18 months ago on my Toyota 1MZ-FE...
The bearings are deliberately much softer than the rod and crank so that when things go bad they take the vast majority of the wear. The crank is the hardest piece in the assembly. If the crank is seriously damaged, someone did something really stupid, like get this knock and just keep driving it that way. Knock knock quickly becomes BANG BANG as the bearing gets completely shredded and then the rod and crank start hitting each other directly, and that's when the real damage starts.
The crankshaft surface is hardened only a few thousands of an inch so it holds up and the bearing is a softer material. For that reason never have your crankshaft machined unless it's absolutely necessary. The hardening prossess is rarely done by machine shops so your left with a softer crank surface that'll score more easily.
You haven't even started it yet but I know it's going to work great. That's the type of confidence I have in you.. And I know the young man who's waiting for his car is going to be more pleased than I am. But I think equally as pleased as you are Ray. One can tell you take pride in your work.
I bet the customer was happy as a clam when you said, there was a good chance the engine was junk, but you got it repaired. Awesome job!! Learning a lot about engines!!
I have to say that you sir have definitely made me have an bigger admiration for mechanics! The work and knowledge you have to do is truly amazing! You make watching these videos fun to watch! I was glad you were able to save that Mercury! Have a great day ! Just AWESOME!
that is something I didn't think was possible . I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos... not like I will do it . just the amount of special tools is amazing.
this rebuild was satisfying to watch..and i have not seen this done since almost 20 years ago... needed to relearn how to do this work.. thanks! job well done!
What a great video. Every step recorded in real time. Thanks for putting everything you did in the video along with an actual explanation for what you were doing! Excellent!
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is just the word "extra" by going the extra mile you truly make a difference for your customers. I wish that more mechanics worldwide will follow your example, they'll get way more business and many more happy customers. Thanks Ray.
Great Video! Kudos to you! Just goes to show that there are still a few great mechanics w/ lots of knowledge & experience that can & are willing to help people out.!
What a great video. Thank you, Ray. I absolutely love watching you work and describe what you are doing. Thank you for not adding that annoying music. It is not needed. Your description of what you are doing and why is enough to satisfy us, your loyal followers. Ince again, Thank You. John
Wow! Great job Ray. I owned the Ford Contour V-6 version. Very, very tight spaces to get hands in! You did a fantastic job of helping this car owner! Thank you for what you do!
I am a recent viewer and while waiting for your new posts I went and looked at what I considered some of your more interesting older videos. You are much more relaxed in the newer videos than these older videos. Congratulations on creating really interesting videos. Not being a mechanic I cringed when you took these bearings out, I could never do it. More work for you.
NICE! So, 1-2 were bad along with starting to spin 6. I had my fingers crossed on both hands when you started bringing up the rpms. Good job Rainman! You can walk around with a bit of skip in your step after that one. Cheers!
In situations like this, all the bearings are bad. Same goes for high mileage motors. Now, in normal, well maintained motors, the crank journals will look new, and only the bearings will be worn down. Basically, what I am saying is not doing all of them is a bad call. They are easy to do.
@@goclunker Agree, plus on that motor, it is a dual over head cam, meaning there are four cams at the very top of the motor, and the very last thing to get oil, and the first to lose it if oil pressure drops. So if the bottom bearings look like those did, what do the cam journals look like, what do the main bearings look like?? Since clearances in the engine determine oil pressure, what was the oil pressure when the repair was finished?? Will the oil pressure be enough to last in this engine?? This was a patch job, that may work out or may just be putting of calling this engine dead until rebuild for a few months or a year. Without knowing the situation of the customer, I can't make any hard judgement, but to me this is a crap job to patch up a failed motor, and it should have been either pulled and rebuilt in house or have a rebuilt from supplier installed. Now maybe this was all the customer could afford, and then this would be a good repair for that customer, but in general practice, no.
I've never seen it done as you would normally polish/repair the crank, which is engine-out. I don't know how long this repair will hold personally. That crank needed some attention.
Very impressed as well! I didn't know something like this could be repaired with the engine still in it. The engine might have other damage but at least it keeps the owner driving the vehicle a while longer until his ready to buy another one.
Greetings: 1st- I commend U on such technique and respect of customer and Ur work. We R same in that respect. 2) - I remember in Pt 1 it was knocking. Finding the spun bearing and pieces, U now have a dilemma. Patch, rebuild or trash it. Remember, ' a round hole does not knock'. From the evidence it is a minimum if a crank / rod job. I understand the temporary ' patch job'. Just so the customer knows. Keep up the good work and ethics. There is so many disrespectful, unknowledgeable idiots attempting repairs which is, at best, mayB a temporary 'fix'. Bsafe. Thx 4 the share.
Never seen this level of deep engine repair. I had no idea that this was a possibility when metal shavings are in evidence in the oil pan. Pretty amazing....
I've done this job many times over the years. Only difference I usually replaced the mains while I was there, or checked them for scouring. You do right by your customers and love your content.
Ray, I love all your videos and you are a great mechanic! I was a little worried at 26:02 mins into the video you installed the nut for the oil pickup tube support but only hand tightened it on video.... I pray that you tightened it off camera and the nut for the pickup tube support isn't loose potentially jostling around in the oil pan! I am truly a fan of all your work and you have taught me so much and I am very thankful for your videos so please don't think I am criticizing you or your work and if I am wrong then I sincerely apologize! In either case I hope you have a wonderful day and thank you for all your hard work!
I have a old Jeep cj5 with a 304 V8. The crankcase was flooded with ethanol laden gas when it was in storage for 10 years. It only had 45k on the engine but the ethanol set up some weird galvanic reaction to the main bearings all along the big end. It ate ALL the zinc off the tri plate bearings from one end to the other. After running a Mic over the journals on the crank and making sure they weren't scored, I ordered a set of NOS Clevite Main and Rod bearings and rolled them in laying on my back over a few nights after work. It's been just like that for the last 8 or 9 years. Worked just fine even though it was a PIA to do. Probably didnt have to do the rod bearings but I was already under there you know! :)
That was fascinating to see inside the oil pan. It really helped me to understand how everything works. (And the importance of keeping oil clean and full). Thanks for sharing
I did the old Emory cloth-new bearings trick a bunch of times. Saved my butt pretty often. Works really well on low speed engines such as tractors & dozers, where 1100-1200 rpm is working speed.
Always a good day when you return the vehicle to the customer with positive results it feels good being In a position to help others in this way 👍🏻 good content
This reminds me of when I hand planed the cylinder head and block on my old horse truck, using sandpaper and a wooden block. To my surprise, the 'repair' fixed the warped parts, and gave me years of trouble free motoring :) .
Did something like this in my daily driver Subaru. Flat benchtop, then 1" marine plywood, 1/4" glass, then various grades of wet & dry paper. Hours of work, but 35K later and still running strong. Zero leaks, great gas mileage, no funky noises, what more could I ask for?
It's neat to see a real mechanic 🧰 show a video like this. Most of them won't do or show this or even acknowledge that it would work or that there is even a place for something like this. There not many quality videos of it out there. Thanks again! I did this on my small block Chevy K10 last year about this time. Put new rod and main bearings in it. Got me a good bit more running oil pressure as well. Which was my reason for doing it in the first place.
As a non-mechanic or a person who knows NOTHING about cars or the inner workings of them, i love this channel. I've learned things like: Engine. Gravitas. Circumventing. The list goes on. Imma open my own shop.
I had a customer with a Vortec V6 in a Hyster forklift that spun a bearing worse than this. I recommended doing a crank kit at min but he wanted to try cleaning it up first. I cleaned the crank, threw new bearings in it and cringed as I turned the key for the first time. It ran perfectly, every oil change I checked for any signs of problems and never found anything. 5 years later and 4000+ hours it's still running. I've done some sketchy stuff on my own vehicles knowing there's a minimal chance it'll work much less last and sometimes you get lucky.
@@Ender_Wiggin03 no the 2.4 twin cam is a 4 cylinder engine used in in smaller gm cars. Honestly better than the 3000 series if you ask me. Besides the 3800 wich didn't come in the grand am but can easily be swapped in
@@narwhal9852 I'm pretty sure you could get that 3800 (as the 3.8, later generation) in the Grand Am at some point. A lot of people had it and said it was really fast. The 2.4 was fast in that little tiny car, so I can only imagine the 3.8 lol
Can you imagine requiring this video footage for all repairs? Customers can watch the (unedited) video and see the amount of work that went into a repair.
You're the man. I've often wondered about this specific repair, replacing the rod bearings by taking off the oil pan. Every Negative Nancy on the internet says you should never do it, but it always seemed possible to me, and if you're other option is to pull the entire engine, why not try it? Good instructional video. Thank you.
My step dad told me stories of pulling spun bearings and replacing them with leather belt material. He said it didn’t last long and they would redo it. He would finish his story with “poor people have poor ways”
Yeah this was great..being young and inexperienced I had "friends" with that real "Can't Do" attitude..Glad I dropped those guys along time ago. This kind of pragmatic low cost ingenuity could've saved me a classic Dart that was lost to Pick n Pull.
I got my early training in mechanics and engines from a WWII veteran who was stationed in North Africa during the war and , being a mechanic, was called upon to improvise all sorts of repairs even using parts from destroyed German tanks and planes etc.. Whatever came his way, he fixed it. By the time I met him and worked with him, a running joke was that Roy, my mechanic mentor, learned everything he knew in "The Sahara School For Auto Mechanics". I learned from the best!
If only I had a hoist. I wouldn't have to pull the motor for what is a basically easy job. Next move I'll definitely put one in. Nice couple of vids. Subbed... =D
Un trabajo hecho a conciencia . Mis felicitaciones por tu paciencia y buen trato para con las piezas. Tal vez el valor de la reparación cueste más que el auto, pero si es para un amigo no tiene precio. Me acabo de suscribir a tu canal. Saludos de un argentino desde España
Great vid! At 26:05 (pick up tube install) you hand tightened the nut but I didn’t see it ratcheted down. There was a edited part that could’ve been done but not seen. I do like your thoroughness.
Only just now saw this video... and I was about to write this observation when I noticed your post here; I noticed the same thing: the nut holding the oil pick-up tube bracket was only hand tightened... And further down, you will see it has not moved any little bit from it's hand tightened position, so it was not torqued or even snugged down unfortunately... But hey I wish I had a mechanic like you Ray here in my neighbourhood... you are brilliant!!!
I noticed the same thing and came to join in on the comments. While I'm only a shadetree mechanic and only do small stuff of my vehicles and me friends, I'm always paranoid (concerned) about missing something so I always go over and over fasteners while I still have access. I have the utmost respect for this man and enjoy his channel quite a bit.
Ok good, I was not the only one that noticed this. 😂 I was telling you to go back and tighten it many times watching that video, 😖 but I guess I was not loud enough... 🤣🤣🤣 Oh, And the O2 sensor as well. No worries. That car would still be fine. It was only a support leg. Not a loss of suction point. So should be good. Great job still..!!
Not only do these videos entertain and educate, but could also serve as an insurance policy / documented proof of work, when a customer claims you did or didn't do something. Win, win WIN!!!
When the nut falls off, it will probably get knocked around a bit by the crankshaft and wind up in the pan, where it won't hurt anything. However, the pickup will start vibrating, and it will eventually crack or break off at the mounting flange, starving the engine for oil again. Bearings, take two!
@@edwatts9890 …..I doubt it. Other 2 bolts are tight. It will keep pickup secure for the life of that engine. If that nut comes off it’ll just drop in pan. No harm.
@@1320Jason: Nope. That pipe is long enough that I would estimate the first-mode vibratory response in axes "up-down" and "right-left" to be at about 15 to 100 Hertz. At frequencies at or about those numbers (900 to 6000 RPM, with additional input from ignition events at 45 to 3000 Hz.), the pipe will fail at its maximum displacement/stress point, and that will be in the heat-affected zone immediately adjacent to the weld which attaches the intake pipe to the flange which is bolted [relatively motionless] to the block's mounting point.
Thanks for NO music in this video. Much better.
Y do u hate music in videos
Music isn't always a bad thing, but it was just too much in the previous video. This video is so much better without it.
I agree. Music have it's places, you can add some in some places for comical or dramatic effect. But generally these kinds of videos are far more enjoyable without music. Great videos otherwise. I enjoy them.
It was just your choice of music that was bad- screeching trumpets!
Otherwise great two videos.
Especially on 2x playback speed.
as a teenager I spun a rod bearing, over revved engine, was too poor to buy new motor, or used motor. so I pulled oil pan, & bought 1 rod bearing, back then you could get 1 bearing, 35+ years ago, I polished crank with wet/dry 600 grit paper, lubricated with kerosene, & used a shoestring wrapped around paper on rod journal. it worked. now when I put new rod bearing in, rod was loose on crankshaft, so I removed & took the cap & sanded cap on 400 grit paper, glued to a piece of glass, I know I only did 1 side, but I managed to tighten clearances, & I drove car for over 25k miles without issues, I was always afraid to mash throttle too hard, & it lasted until I was able to get another car & was a little more financially stable. the car was a 1964 Impala, & that engine is still in it, & it has been siting close to 30 years in my back yard.
I had a cam shaft bearing spin. Put new bearings in but they wouldn't hold. Ended up drilling a hole and pinning the bearings with rivets and smoothing them down. It worked and was still working 25k miles later when I sold it. Cam shaft bearings don't have to take anything like the punishment delivered to crank shaft bearings.
Not an experienced mechanic by any definition so excuse me if this is a stupid question... What about the main bearings?
You should pull that 64 out of your backyard and get it back on the road
@@AccountSpace lol, not at moment, I also have another 64 that was bought after it, & a 1961, which I am working on, that my dad bought new, & I plan to drive soon, I also have a 1972 Nova for everyday car, & fixing a 1966C10 truck & have a 1961 Dodge dump truck I need to get on the road to haul gravel. I also drive a Roush truck as a daily driver, & my back & forth to work beater is just a Ford Festiva. lol. so I have enough cars on the road for the moment, plus 2 custom Harleys. I do have a few other cars, & not planning to fix at present, like 2 other Novas from my youth, a 68 Ford Thunderbird, a 1967 big block Dodge Polara my grandpa bought new. as well as a few others, like MGBs, Datsun 510s, & may old VW bugs & busses
@@randymack1782 What an inventory! Sounds like you have great stuff. Too many for a lifetime of restorations. Pick a half dozen of your favorites and pass the rest onto people that will give them the TLC they deserved. This will help fund the work on the ones you keep. Don't be the guy who dies with a lot full of rusted out relics who always thought some day . . . Should have, could have, would have. Nothing is worse than being a party to letting them rest away in the yard. Don't make your kids have to clean up that mess, have a few restored drivers to pass on to them.
I appreciate FINALLY learning what "spun bearings" means, over thirty years after first hearing the phrase.
Never seen bearings replaced without the motor being torn down, great job 👏!
Ive been a mechanic for 20 years and these are my favorite kind of jobs. Doing that deep engine work and getting positive results at the end. But nothing sucks worse after doing a job like this and then finding out the repair didn't work and the engine is garbage. Had plenty of those experiences too. Glad this one worked out.
this is very unreliable why to fix it but best wishes
You just ruined my suspense! Lol
I had a brother in law who had a busy garage,he stayed away from rebuild work he might replace a head gasket or even send them out,he was an experienced guy that worked for a ford dealer for many years.Then he went into his own business, He stuck to bread and butter work and made good money,too much of a headache replacing,overhauling engines.Brakes water pumps fuel
pumps diag jobs thats what he did!Have to make money,not tie up the shop!He could do it but stayed away,got to put food on the table!Unfortunatly he passed away a while ago,I think he had the right idea for his shop.
Did anyone notice that bird throw something at the car @44:43?
only thing I would have done different would have been replaced connecting rod bolts, on some engines they are one time use only bolts.
Very interesting repair. I'm sure the customer was extremely gratefully; you saved them from having to buy another car. You are the best Ray.
And the oil has now been changed for the next 17 years!
I highly doubt it he said was going guy. daddy prob paid bill.. he'll run the dog shit out of it now
Probably would've been cheaper to get another car
@@rsswga we have no way of knowing. Don't always assume the worst of people; it's unhealthy.
How much was that repair?
I am so glad that I found Rainman Ray's Repairs. I am a backyard mechanic that learned from watching my dad and his friend since I was a kid. Rebuilt my first engine back in 1980 when I was 16. Having this knowledge helps understand what he is doing. But, I can honestly say that I have learned QUITE a bit since watching these videos. I really like how he takes you through everything step by step. NO ASSUMING that those of us watching knows what he is doing or about to do. These are easily, in my opinion the best videos on auto repair that I have seen throughout the years. Keep up the GREAT work and keep those videos coming. Rainman Ray, AWESOME JOB !!!
Outstanding rescue of an engine which other shops would not have take on. Great work ethic, Ray. Knowledge is your forte.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!! we don't need music
Right!
We were getting the waiter experience in the lobby with the repair lol
I know I know. I had to…the background music was getting me copyright claims from TH-cam
@@RainmanRaysRepairs Perfect!
The music was just a huge annoyance, anyway. Being half deaf, I couldn't understand what you were saying over top of it because it sad so loud, AND it was obnoxiously repetitive.
@@Sman7290 Being half deaf myself, yea, the music was hinderance, I could not hear some stuff what OP was saying.
What a pro....I wish every mechanic were this diligent and honest
Nice to see a real old school mechanic get into an engine and fix the problem, nice job Ray! 👍
Same thing happen to my buddys 5.3 put another 200000 on it !
A story from my childhood... I had a Maverick with a 250. I acquired a 302 that I wanted to swap in, but my Dad was against that until I had a bit more experience under my belt. I determined that I would run that 250 hard as I could, with very little oil in it, to speed up the upgrade. It took several months before it developed a slight knock. Not wanting to reveal my plan, I mentioned that I needed to borrow Mom's car that night for the school dance as my car was sounding a little funny, and I didn't want to risk damaging it or getting stranded with my date. Dad turned around and reached into the junk drawer (everyone's kitchen has one, right?) and pulled out a box of bearings and some plastigage. I ended up changing out the bearings, laying in our gravel driveway (we had 1 asphalt and 1 gravel drive) just in time to break them in on the drive to pick up my date for the dance. I went through several other cars, building and flipping (a self funding hobby for me back in the day), but kept the Maverick, with the 250 in it, for several years and many thousands of miles, until some kid that reminded me of me talked me out of it...
Nice ❤
Haha. You learned a great lesson
@@doda7443- Weird to see your reply just now. He died 8 years ago, tomorrow, on Memorial day at 1:30, two hours ago.
@@Phantom0fTheRouter 😢😭
I remember the first car I owned it was a 1975 Mercury Grand Marquis. My dad and I bought it from the junkyard as a project car for my 16th birthday. The engine has blown. It originally has a 400 Ford engine, but we put the 351 Windsor in it. We had to special order the pressure hose for the power steering pump, modify the engine mounts by cutting through the Front crossmember, and change the bell housing (They are slightly different, could mount up, but my dad wanted me to have the experience.) but we got it done.
Shortly after, I was working for the summer detassling corn. My brother was on the same crew. I went out to play a little bit, and was too confident in my abilities. I ran into the ditch and needed a pull out of it. I got a hole in the gas tank. By that time, my dad has died from a heart attack. My mom said to put some JB Weld on it and take her from Kahoka, MO to Muscatine, IA. I did. She called the police on me in Muscatine. I got arrested and lost my car.
you guys did a great job saving that old ford,I am a 40 year veteran in the field, hard to find guys like you willing to take a chance on a risky job, thanks for sharing!!!
I have done this kind of work several times many years ago but I'd only do it for my own vehicles because of the risk involved doing it for a customer who is going to pay dearly for this kind of rescue work and it's very hard to guarantee longevity of any sort if you're being realistic. Great job though!
You cannot possibly have any idea how much these videos have taught me. From having no idea what a crank bearing even looked like and wondering if I'd have to learn to pour babbitt to believing I might even be able to do a job like that myself even lying on my back under the car. You might call the videos long but they are worth every second. Thanks loads!
That should not teach you anything that is absolutely the wrong way to do something it's a Band-Aid at best at bearing spun on the crank and the rod and it will fail again without doubt so unless you just want to put a Band-Aid on something and get by for a bit longer do not do that
@@raymondholley1009 yeah obviously it's a bandaid if the bearing hadn't spun however this isn't a bad method. I've seen people get low oil pressure and just repair the rod bearing and it works out just fine, but yeah this is a repair to get you by until you can get another vehicle or engine.
@@raymondholley1009
I spun a bearing in my 1973 GTO on my way to work.
It was a very ugly knock.
After work, I stopped at a NAPA auto parts and picked up a set of standard size rod bearings.
The next day I was under that old goat pulling the oil pan.
I performed a plastigauage test to insure the new bearings would allow sufficient oil clearance.
Then torqued in sequential specs as per the maual.
That GTO flippin ran strong for years after that with no problems.
How did I spin a rod bearing in the first place?
I checked my oil the day before and noticed a quart low on the dip stick.
But the next morning in a hurry to get to work, I hauled ass as i took the off ramp down shifting at high RPM’s
and thats when the knocking began.
Always maintain oil capacity.
I would have just changed out the whole engine with a good used engine from a junk yard. As I have done in the past. Just get an engine with half the mileage out of a wrecked car.
All well and good as long as you have the resources to pull an engine. Most people don't, and this is a job you can do with basic tools & some jack stands
Ray is a mechanic, not a fitter. Skills like these are hard earned.
It's great to see someone with integrity and a love and passion for his profession. Keep up making great videos.
I was a teenager when I heard about spun bearings. I asked what that meant and no one I knew could explain it, the closest answer was that it's really bad. Now, after all these years, it's crystal clear, thanks to this video.
Spinning a bearing means you are screwed. This customer must be a friend or family of someone at the shop. I wouldn't even consider this an option for a stranger; too much liability. And hopefully the customer understands that he is TOTALLY GAMBLING what i imagine is at least $600-$800 on this "repair". We did this in the 1980's, usually so the customer could immediately trade-in the car. Thus, we never knew how long before engine needed more internal work.
@@hightttech "Spinning a bearing means you are screwed." Indeed, lol. Looks like the decision to go ahead with this remedy was purely driven by financial reasons. I imagine for the customer, the choices were not too plentiful and this was the least financially painful way to have a running car in their possession. I'm not an advocate of kicking a problem down the road, however long or short that may be, but hopefully the customer will be in better financial standing to deal with this issue when it needs to be addressed again. Oh, and hope they learned it's far easier and cheaper to change/check the engine oil from now on.
Same frustration here, and finally understand the reason. The vast majority of people who work on cars are ‘math brains’… i.e. they are good at ciphering, but not so good at readin’ and rightin’. They don’t have the vocabulary to explain in words to a novice.
Spinning a bearing can just mean you need to dress the crank, then do what rays doing.
It's based on what you actually find.
If the bearing eats up the rod, then you have to pull the head to get that piston out.
It's refreshing to see a mechanic who actually takes the time to try to repair the engine, rather than just throwing up their arms and proclaim, "Nope, needs a motor."
Most of the time, especially with labor prices, it's cheaper just to replace the engine than to take the time to rebuild it.
I agree, in this case it was caught before irreparable damage was caused, so there's a lesson for all here.... if your car has a problem at least get it diagnosed so you don't make an expensive paper weight.
The total hours of labor for this would have probably covered an engine swap. If you knew for sure you were buying a good motor, the labor cost would ensure you are getting your money's worth. This might work, but long term is unknown.
And then there's the question of guarnatee: in this case, if the customer comes back after a week with the bushings spun again, now what? (on top of that, he will ask for his money back...)
@@brad3741 No, this WILL work. I've done it, and so have lots of other people. If the rods aren't damaged (they weren't) and the crank isn't totally hammered to death (it wasn't) just changing the bearings will get you many more years out of it. The bearings are deliberately the soft part of the system so they take almost all of the wear when things go bad, as long as you don't drive it so long that the bearings actually leave and the rod is hitting the crank. I've done the same thing on a Pontiac Grand Am with maybe a worse knock than this, and I didn't even smooth the crank like he did. 40k and 4 years later, it's still running and sounding like new. My neighbor is using it now.
It's really strange just how captivating it is to watch a mechanic do his thing. Thank you for the videos.
I know, it’s great to find success like this. So satisfying to see a save.
Great job! The first time I did that exact same job was on a Humber Super Snipe back in the late 70s. It's generally always the end rod bearing furthest away from the oil pump that fails completely, as it's the last one in line for oil when the pressure drops due to starvation, but obviously get a set and change them all as you did. No point in worrying too much about the crank main (or axial) bearings, as they generally don't suffer so badly when there's oil starvation, and in any case it's often not possible to remove the ones at either end of the crank without major dismantling. That engine should go on for many more miles. Well done!
He didn't sand the journals very well. That would concern me. On my car it was the #3 rod that spun (3rd from the pump). And I was able to get all but 1 upper main bearing out because it didn't have an oil hole in the crank for me to rotate it out.
If the owner doesn’t learn to check his oil it will be back.
Having had a GF who went thru this once the bill arrives they see Jesus over oil Changes and checks.
He was stupid enough to buy a Fraud, so I don't think he will learn anything.
The "I'm mad because I didn't get enough oil" knock is a sign of a short-term life, I'd be highly surprised if it made it another 91k. Who knows where the next flake of bearing material will rear it's unwanted appearance. ✌✌
Poor thing will be lucky if it makes to its 3rd oil change. Since each change interval will end up being around 15,000 miles
Oil did not look that bad. I've seen one that had black and clumpy oil in it, had to change twice in rapid succession because first change loosened all the gunk and blocked the oil filter (wonder where oil pressure went).
Great job! I think most mechanics would have told the customer you need a new motor instead of doing that work. Nice to see an honest mechanic doing an honest job.
Most of the time the crankshaft and connecting rod are way too gone. Easier and sometimes cheaper to just get a new/used engine unless doing modifications.
Man the feeling you must’ve had when revving the engine for the first time after all that work…. Amazing job brother! 👍🏻👍🏻
Maaaan, I could've died not knowing that this half general repair of the engine can be done from beneath the car. My eyes are opened! So happy I've found this channel! Great job Ray! And I just love those Too-Loo-Loo phone ring imitations.
Rookie
It's doo de doo de doo. Get it right
Depends on the car. Done it once before - but the bearings were nowhere near as bad as the ones in this engine.
Really?? I assume your new. Hay that's ok. The longer you do it the more you learn.
@@lawrencegrezlik2105 wow you're cool, what a helpful intelligent well refined adult we have here....
It is refreshing to watch a professional that can talk to his audience without dropping F bombs the entire time. Great video, Thanks
I haven't run into one of those... I'd be gone in a minute. Agree with you 100%.
You would hate to hear me work on my car then cause every other word is f this an f that why tf is it built like that lol 😂
I wish he would speak more like a mechanic lel
F#ck thats me sry brah
Fuckin' A
Loved the video. Very professional. But noticed on first pass through that the pick up tube brace was only finger tightened. Maybe tightened off camera. Great to see a true mechanic at work.
I was just going to comment on that. Probably done off camera. Right at 26:00.
Amazing repair work, would never have crossed my mind that this approach could be so successful! Brilliant job Ray :)
excellent repair. Soooo refreshing to see someone take the time for proper analysis and then thorough process. People like you are so good for the industry and of course, the customer.
Man i did like this, I love that satisfaction of fixing something where you don't quite know if you are going to fix it and it is absolutely perfect when you are finished.
That first start felt soooo good
Great video. My only thing is that, when I'd watch my uncle rebuild a motor like this he'd take the caps off and push the pistons up with the spark plugs removed, then use high powered air to blow thru the journal oil holes to make sure no tiny particles of metal got into the crank oil system. I know this because that was what he'd put me doing so I got all nasty from it since he did all this laying on the concrete (no lift) and I'd look like an oil refinery exploded on me..lol. I do know that, sometimes there would be small metal filing come out those oil holes. And if they did he'd use a pressurized oil device (of his creation) to force oil thru the crank to make sure it was flushed inside completely. Not sure if this is needed anymore with today's engines as this was on old 60s and 70s engines from Chevy, Dodge, or Fords. He paid me in the early 70s around $10 for each one I blew air into and $15 for it if I had to use the pressurized oil thru it. Yeah, young kids for your dirty work was a great thing...haha. Anyway, only thing I saw you didn't do so wasn't sure if it's needed anymore. Love watching your vids. I learn a lot watching. Mostly you guys get paid more hassle than you should from people who think things are so easy to do and shouldn't take more than 10 to 15 minutes, not knowing you, sometimes have to remove half the topside or reach into spots that are tight and on hot engines. Keep it up, bro. Maybe the world will find out it's not a simple fix always and lay off your backs. Take care.
This is a really great video! Rarely do you see mechanics do an in-frame bearing change. That was a really smart idea you had. I've done that on a tractor before, and a few other times on cars, and people don't realize - it really works! Great job! 👍
I love your dilligence, you work as a surgeon on your jobs. I remember rebuilding engines under a shed or a pecan tree back in the 1970s on my Dodge Challenger R/T 383 and also on a Ford truck 300ci straight 6. I didn't have the luxury of a lift, only a chain hoist and rope slung over a tree limb or lying on my back on a piece of cardboard. I used STP to lube the crank bearings back then, but this brings back so many memories. Great job brother!
You had the luxury of cardboard?
Love stuff like this. The “save it if possible” approach needs to be a standard across more shops. Takes more skills and knowledge to repair than just replace. Nicely done!
If a tech (today, they are not mechanics most of them anyway) cant hook up a computer to ur car n the computer say, change the bearings, they're not going to know its even possible to change em let alone how to do it.
A tech goes to school from his highschool auto shop where he learns general repair based on what's done that he can witness. What he can read, what he may be taught, to going to tech school at a voc tech class, to a college of automotive tech.
Several teachers may show how to teardown and measure for repair and obtaining the parts list information and ways available to address the issues they find. Larger schools with engine lab and a whole department may demonstrate the machine work.
If a technician takes the full program, he has to be able to do all the work of an engine rebuild.
They get engines from a yard and assign them to lab teams.
The team has to be able to fully fill out their lab requirements and produce a running engine at the close of the program.
What they are limited on is parts.
With no paying customer, it's reuse most of it having learned and reassembled.
If it's gutshot, they teardown another one.
Once a technician starts his apprenticeship, it all starts over again with night school. The teachers are mastertech from car dealers if he's in a union.
There's alot of thought required and alot of hours, days, weeks, months, and years. The spouse spends alot of time at home without him. He comes home sometimes and collapses in his dinner.
Other programs require more self study and don't have engineers for teachers. But mastertech can teach you what's not in any book.
It's alot to learn. And alot of tools to buy.
Then you learn from journeymen on the job.
When you get a job like ray has been assigned here, there's judgement that enters in.
That sparkly oil that was in the pan, has been run through that oiling system. The pump, the cam, the galleries, every orifice can be holding on to small pieces of catastrophic carnage making bits.
He had best clean and inspect every aspect and know that engines bulletins.
The customer may expect ray to use his crystal ball. There isn't one. Ray needs to be sure that guy understands, this is an in the pan set of bearings, hopefully an oil pump, and a gallery flush. The mains haven't been inspected.
I hope he does that.
Cross your fingers.
If some other failure occurs, the customer needs to have that idea explained before saying fix my #6 rod bearing and dress my crank journal only.
They need that paperwork with his signatures and initials.
If a job like this goes haywire later, it can be a very bad day.
Then somebody has to buy a shortblock .
And about thirty hours.
Or another combination of parts and labor.
Because Taurus platform cars are so labor intensive, it could be why they did this instead of demanding a remanufactured engine. You don't want to pull that one.
I've seen techs lose their ass on major power train repair on these.
What a mechanic! Really cares & take pride in his work. Great job & videos.
Good job I didn't think it would work out for you but your a great mechanic.. true professional...
I truly enjoyed watching both videos on this repair. You saved this engine from disaster for now.
Oh rats! You have displayed a new wrench type= ratcheting crows foot. Now I need to buy a set in Imperial and a Metric one. You can never have too many tools. More to the point, you're an excellent technician and I appreciate your videos. These two are great. Many thanks, Ray. Have a Great Day. If you're a father, Happy Father's Day.
I noticed those wrenches too. If I was still wrenching for a living I would be buying a set. Hell, I only work on my own stuff now and I am STILL contemplating it...
See, this is why I have no budget... Videos like this showing off tools like that.
"Now I need to buy a set in Imperial and a Metric one", but you can't get them in BSW/BSF though. . . . . . . :-)
Why not just get the plain crows feet, and use with a ratchet? Similar price + warranty tease I'm guessing
One of the strangest rebuilds I did was on a 50's GM 135 six cylinder engine that an old man used to haul empty metal barrels around in his truck. The old man didn't get over 45 mph and didn't want to spend much money on the engine. So I rebuilt the head, guides, ground the valves , seals etc. Then I used the crankshaft paper as you did in this video to polish the rod throws. When I started the engine up the oil gauge nearly pegged and even at running temp it had like 40 lbs of oil pressure which greatly puzzled me at first. Then I remember that the rod throws on the crank were egg shaped and the gap between the bearings and the crank created an oil pump effect! The old man drove that truck several more years before he gave out but the truck didn't! lol
I guess the old man needed a good hearth mechanic to fix him for few more years.
Brings back old memories of when I used to rebuild engines. Thanks for the memories Ray...
You did a great job. I bet it makes you feel real good that you’re able to do that for someone and provide them with reliable transportation. I’m proud of you for taking the time and being honest about it not just trying to sell him a new engine.
Nice job! Good to know there are still mechanics who would attempt something like this to help out a customer
Have to say, after watching the whole first part and this one. I was even glad to hear it run without a knock. Great vid and great job on the engine. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and posting your vids. Also shows you enjoy your job and take that extra step in care for each vehicle. That is a true mechanic. I might have been a crew chief on jets, but all crews like to say it is just another day in paradise. (1990 305th AFRES)
Love the channel Ray! Thank for being a REAL mechanic and not a scam artist. Props to you sir.
Wow old school mechanic here never thought any were left,guess that one went out the door with no guarantee, but A+++ for effort and it worked, I was a generator mechanic with the 101 Airborne in Vietnam I would take parts out of one to make another work sometimes because it was so hard to get a replacement never changed spun bearings though, we were good abought our oil changes mostly carb and electrical issues, you are an inspiration!
Thanks for the service brother, Welcome home.
Thank you for your service.
@@Lazerchicken69 You are welcome I love the USA!
@@leonarddichiara4863 thanks for your service man. I'm from Canada but anyone who served is an inspiration.
Thanks for Your service, Brother. Nam SGT:Kelly 68'/81
Enjoyed your video. Good to see a true mechanic at work and one who knows his stuff.
Regards from England. UK.
Most of the vids I watch are of very old cars being dragged out of a barn and just made to run again, which is great, but this fella goes right into the engine and explains everything great. He is a master at this stuff. Most enjoyable.
I was amazed at your skill and knowledge! Thanks for making these informative and highly interesting lessons in how it should be done. I hope they're paying you the big bucks!
Boy! This brings back memories for me. I was on a hunting trip in my 69 GTO when my engine spun a bearing. Put two cans of STP in and tried to nurse it home. Got ten miles down the road when a hand grenade went off in my engine. Saw a swath of oil and debris in my rear View mirror, but coasted to the side of the road. My buddy was a professional mechanic and he walked me through the rebuild. After I got the engine installed it was a real blast to hear it fire up perfectly the first time I turned the key!
Absolute epic footage mate. Very nice work. Love your antics, click and gravity 🤣. Keep up the good work
I'm glad to had came across this 2 part video. I'm currently rebuilding a 4.3L v6 vortec and there's a couple little tricks you did that I've found useful, thanks again!
The owner of that car must have really loved it, because this work would be incredibly expensive. You sir are an artist, a mechanic who has a passion for what they do & not just a job, you really did take a lot of pride in that, much respect to you.
Cheaper than today's used cars.
He said it was a kid who bought the car and never changed the oil. He rebuilt the bottom end for a few shop hours and some parts. Few hundred bucks maybe. I hope the kid was grateful and starts doing oil changes.
Does this work well long run?
@@great4ever845 if the damage is minimal/none, yes. Otherwise its a band aid.
I'm so glad you performed this repair in this exact manner, it gives credence to an almost identical repair I performed a little over 18 months ago on my Toyota 1MZ-FE...
I'm amazed at how resilient that crank journal is.
The bearings are deliberately much softer than the rod and crank so that when things go bad they take the vast majority of the wear. The crank is the hardest piece in the assembly. If the crank is seriously damaged, someone did something really stupid, like get this knock and just keep driving it that way. Knock knock quickly becomes BANG BANG as the bearing gets completely shredded and then the rod and crank start hitting each other directly, and that's when the real damage starts.
The crankshaft surface is hardened only a few thousands of an inch so it holds up and the bearing is a softer material. For that reason never have your crankshaft machined unless it's absolutely necessary. The hardening prossess is rarely done by machine shops so your left with a softer crank surface that'll score more easily.
You haven't even started it yet but I know it's going to work great. That's the type of confidence I have in you.. And I know the young man who's waiting for his car is going to be more pleased than I am. But I think equally as pleased as you are Ray. One can tell you take pride in your work.
I bet the customer was happy as a clam when you said, there was a good chance the engine was junk, but you got it repaired. Awesome job!! Learning a lot about engines!!
I have to say that you sir have definitely made me have an bigger admiration for mechanics! The work and knowledge you have to do is truly amazing! You make watching these videos fun to watch! I was glad you were able to save that Mercury! Have a great day ! Just AWESOME!
Nice Job Ray! It's a great feeling to take something that isn't working and breathe life back into it.
that is something I didn't think was possible . I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos... not like I will do it . just the amount of special tools is amazing.
this rebuild was satisfying to watch..and i have not seen this done since almost 20 years ago... needed to relearn how to do this work.. thanks! job well done!
What a great video. Every step recorded in real time. Thanks for putting everything you did in the video along with an actual explanation for what you were doing! Excellent!
Thanks for taking the feedback on the music!
This video is perfect, a great watch! Thanks!
I can appreciate what good mechanic does. Great job!!
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is just the word "extra" by going the extra mile you truly make a difference for your customers. I wish that more mechanics worldwide will follow your example, they'll get way more business and many more happy customers. Thanks Ray.
Great Video! Kudos to you! Just goes to show that there are still a few great mechanics w/ lots of knowledge & experience that can & are willing to help people out.!
What a great video. Thank you, Ray. I absolutely love watching you work and describe what you are doing. Thank you for not adding that annoying music. It is not needed. Your description of what you are doing and why is enough to satisfy us, your loyal followers. Ince again, Thank You. John
Wow! Great job Ray. I owned the Ford Contour V-6 version. Very, very tight spaces to get hands in! You did a fantastic job of helping this car owner! Thank you for what you do!
I am a recent viewer and while waiting for your new posts I went and looked at what I considered some of your more interesting older videos. You are much more relaxed in the newer videos than these older videos. Congratulations on creating really interesting videos. Not being a mechanic I cringed when you took these bearings out, I could never do it. More work for you.
NICE! So, 1-2 were bad along with starting to spin 6. I had my fingers crossed on both hands when you started bringing up the rpms. Good job Rainman! You can walk around with a bit of skip in your step after that one. Cheers!
In situations like this, all the bearings are bad. Same goes for high mileage motors. Now, in normal, well maintained motors, the crank journals will look new, and only the bearings will be worn down.
Basically, what I am saying is not doing all of them is a bad call. They are easy to do.
@@goclunker Agree, plus on that motor, it is a dual over head cam, meaning there are four cams at the very top of the motor, and the very last thing to get oil, and the first to lose it if oil pressure drops. So if the bottom bearings look like those did, what do the cam journals look like, what do the main bearings look like?? Since clearances in the engine determine oil pressure, what was the oil pressure when the repair was finished?? Will the oil pressure be enough to last in this engine?? This was a patch job, that may work out or may just be putting of calling this engine dead until rebuild for a few months or a year. Without knowing the situation of the customer, I can't make any hard judgement, but to me this is a crap job to patch up a failed motor, and it should have been either pulled and rebuilt in house or have a rebuilt from supplier installed. Now maybe this was all the customer could afford, and then this would be a good repair for that customer, but in general practice, no.
Most shops would have heard the rattle and said new engine. I’ve never seen bearings going into a motor still in a car. Pretty cool
I've never seen it done as you would normally polish/repair the crank, which is engine-out. I don't know how long this repair will hold personally. That crank needed some attention.
Very impressed as well! I didn't know something like this could be repaired with the engine still in it. The engine might have other damage but at least it keeps the owner driving the vehicle a while longer until his ready to buy another one.
It's a pretty easy job on a front wheel drive vehicle due to the fact that the oil pan comes off easily .
Greetings: 1st- I commend U on such technique and respect of customer and Ur work. We R same in that respect. 2) - I remember in Pt 1 it was knocking. Finding the spun bearing and pieces, U now have a dilemma. Patch, rebuild or trash it. Remember, ' a round hole does not knock'. From the evidence it is a minimum if a crank / rod job. I understand the temporary ' patch job'. Just so the customer knows. Keep up the good work and ethics. There is so many disrespectful, unknowledgeable idiots attempting repairs which is, at best, mayB a temporary 'fix'. Bsafe. Thx 4 the share.
Never seen this level of deep engine repair. I had no idea that this was a possibility when metal shavings are in evidence in the oil pan. Pretty amazing....
Excellent video thank you for showing me that you don’t always have to remove the engine to replace the rod bearings
I've done this too. Laying on my back. Not fun. But a lot cheaper than paying someone else to do it.
I've done this job many times over the years. Only difference I usually replaced the mains while I was there, or checked them for scouring. You do right by your customers and love your content.
Ray, I love all your videos and you are a great mechanic! I was a little worried at 26:02 mins into the video you installed the nut for the oil pickup tube support but only hand tightened it on video.... I pray that you tightened it off camera and the nut for the pickup tube support isn't loose potentially jostling around in the oil pan! I am truly a fan of all your work and you have taught me so much and I am very thankful for your videos so please don't think I am criticizing you or your work and if I am wrong then I sincerely apologize! In either case I hope you have a wonderful day and thank you for all your hard work!
You're correct, it never turned any more after the hand threading. This is what happens when you video stuff. Distraction!~
I have a old Jeep cj5 with a 304 V8. The crankcase was flooded with ethanol laden gas when it was in storage for 10 years. It only had 45k on the engine but the ethanol set up some weird galvanic reaction to the main bearings all along the big end. It ate ALL the zinc off the tri plate bearings from one end to the other. After running a Mic over the journals on the crank and making sure they weren't scored, I ordered a set of NOS Clevite Main and Rod bearings and rolled them in laying on my back over a few nights after work. It's been just like that for the last 8 or 9 years. Worked just fine even though it was a PIA to do. Probably didnt have to do the rod bearings but I was already under there you know! :)
That was fascinating to see inside the oil pan. It really helped me to understand how everything works. (And the importance of keeping oil clean and full). Thanks for sharing
I did the old Emory cloth-new bearings trick a bunch of times. Saved my butt pretty often. Works really well on low speed engines such as tractors & dozers, where 1100-1200 rpm is working speed.
Great video. This is something that a mechanic needs to keep in mind for his own cars. Something that mostly easy and save a ton of money
Always a good day when you return the vehicle to the customer with positive results it feels good being In a position to help others in this way 👍🏻 good content
This reminds me of when I hand planed the cylinder head and block on my old horse truck, using sandpaper and a wooden block.
To my surprise, the 'repair' fixed the warped parts, and gave me years of trouble free motoring :) .
Did something like this in my daily driver Subaru. Flat benchtop, then 1" marine plywood, 1/4" glass, then various grades of wet & dry paper. Hours of work, but 35K later and still running strong. Zero leaks, great gas mileage, no funky noises, what more could I ask for?
@@skjeflo1
Yup.
It is amazing what you can achieve, with even the simplest engine repair methods :) .
Great job! Around 26:50, never saw you tighten the nut for the oil pickup tube. You did tighten the two bolts.
I also noticed that. Especially because the nut did not change position in the image transition.
It's neat to see a real mechanic 🧰 show a video like this. Most of them won't do or show this or even acknowledge that it would work or that there is even a place for something like this. There not many quality videos of it out there. Thanks again! I did this on my small block Chevy K10 last year about this time. Put new rod and main bearings in it. Got me a good bit more running oil pressure as well. Which was my reason for doing it in the first place.
I can't believe you did that! It's great to see this work, awesome job.
As a non-mechanic or a person who knows NOTHING about cars or the inner workings of them, i love this channel.
I've learned things like:
Engine.
Gravitas.
Circumventing.
The list goes on. Imma open my own shop.
I had a customer with a Vortec V6 in a Hyster forklift that spun a bearing worse than this. I recommended doing a crank kit at min but he wanted to try cleaning it up first. I cleaned the crank, threw new bearings in it and cringed as I turned the key for the first time. It ran perfectly, every oil change I checked for any signs of problems and never found anything. 5 years later and 4000+ hours it's still running. I've done some sketchy stuff on my own vehicles knowing there's a minimal chance it'll work much less last and sometimes you get lucky.
@Green Mamba Games Cylinder 3? those 2.4L's were known for that.
@@Ender_Wiggin03 no the 2.4 twin cam is a 4 cylinder engine used in in smaller gm cars. Honestly better than the 3000 series if you ask me. Besides the 3800 wich didn't come in the grand am but can easily be swapped in
@@narwhal9852 I think @EnderWiggin meant cylinder number 3.
@@narwhal9852 I'm pretty sure you could get that 3800 (as the 3.8, later generation) in the Grand Am at some point. A lot of people had it and said it was really fast. The 2.4 was fast in that little tiny car, so I can only imagine the 3.8 lol
@@PassiveDestroyer I'm sure he did, and my 3 was the worst when I did mine.
Amazing, Ray, really appreciate your skill and knowledge in the field, great guy!
Can you imagine requiring this video footage for all repairs? Customers can watch the (unedited) video and see the amount of work that went into a repair.
And they can learn new curse words, too!
You're the man. I've often wondered about this specific repair, replacing the rod bearings by taking off the oil pan.
Every Negative Nancy on the internet says you should never do it, but it always seemed possible to me, and if you're other option is to pull the entire engine, why not try it?
Good instructional video. Thank you.
My step dad told me stories of pulling spun bearings and replacing them with leather belt material. He said it didn’t last long and they would redo it. He would finish his story with “poor people have poor ways”
Yeah this was great..being young and inexperienced I had "friends" with that real "Can't Do" attitude..Glad I dropped those guys along time ago. This kind of pragmatic low cost ingenuity could've saved me a classic Dart that was lost to Pick n Pull.
I got my early training in mechanics and engines from a WWII veteran who was stationed in North Africa during the war and , being a mechanic, was called upon to improvise all sorts of repairs even using parts from destroyed German tanks and planes etc.. Whatever came his way, he fixed it. By the time I met him and worked with him, a running joke was that Roy, my mechanic mentor, learned everything he knew in "The Sahara School For Auto Mechanics". I learned from the best!
If only I had a hoist. I wouldn't have to pull the motor for what is a basically easy job. Next move I'll definitely put one in. Nice couple of vids. Subbed... =D
Presto it is done. I like the way you involve the viewers, also explaining what you are doing.
Most guys would have seen the spun bearing and made the walk in to tell them it's TOAST! You saved it....and THEM!
Great job doing this, except you never checked the main bearings! With those large pieces you pulled out, that's the first place I would have checked!
Yes, those pieces he pulled out are to big for those bearings!!
exactly, those main bearings will need to be replaced as well since you there, this is not cheap job I don't think this car was worth.
Un trabajo hecho a conciencia . Mis felicitaciones por tu paciencia y buen trato para con las piezas. Tal vez el valor de la reparación cueste más que el auto, pero si es para un amigo no tiene precio. Me acabo de suscribir a tu canal. Saludos de un argentino desde España
Great job! Always nice to see a good outcome. I’m sure the customer was happy
Great vid! At 26:05 (pick up tube install) you hand tightened the nut but I didn’t see it ratcheted down. There was a edited part that could’ve been done but not seen. I do like your thoroughness.
Great eye...yes never got tightened, probably in the bottom of the pan by now where it will live out the remainder of it’s life. Should be fine lol
Only just now saw this video... and I was about to write this observation when I noticed your post here; I noticed the same thing: the nut holding the oil pick-up tube bracket was only hand tightened... And further down, you will see it has not moved any little bit from it's hand tightened position, so it was not torqued or even snugged down unfortunately...
But hey I wish I had a mechanic like you Ray here in my neighbourhood... you are brilliant!!!
I noticed the same thing and came to join in on the comments.
While I'm only a shadetree mechanic and only do small stuff of my vehicles and me friends, I'm always paranoid (concerned) about missing something so I always go over and over fasteners while I still have access.
I have the utmost respect for this man and enjoy his channel quite a bit.
I noticed that as well, I hope he re-tightened the 0-2 sensor as well, he loosened it before disconnecting the wiring.
Ok good, I was not the only one that noticed this. 😂 I was telling you to go back and tighten it many times watching that video, 😖 but I guess I was not loud enough... 🤣🤣🤣
Oh, And the O2 sensor as well. No worries. That car would still be fine. It was only a support leg. Not a loss of suction point. So should be good.
Great job still..!!
I wanted to stand up and give u a standing O when that engine turned over. Awesome.
Just came across this video. Honestly I didn't think it would work out. I am glad for the ower of the car that it all worked out. Awesome work.
Not only do these videos entertain and educate, but could also serve as an insurance policy / documented proof of work, when a customer claims you did or didn't do something. Win, win WIN!!!
Forgot to tighten 3rd nut on oil pick up. 26:12.
Great video Ray Ray!!
When the nut falls off, it will probably get knocked around a bit by the crankshaft and wind up in the pan, where it won't hurt anything. However, the pickup will start vibrating, and it will eventually crack or break off at the mounting flange, starving the engine for oil again.
Bearings, take two!
@@edwatts9890 …..I doubt it. Other 2 bolts are tight. It will keep pickup secure for the life of that engine. If that nut comes off it’ll just drop in pan. No harm.
@@1320Jason: Nope. That pipe is long enough that I would estimate the first-mode vibratory response in axes "up-down" and "right-left" to be at about 15 to 100 Hertz. At frequencies at or about those numbers (900 to 6000 RPM, with additional input from ignition events at 45 to 3000 Hz.), the pipe will fail at its maximum displacement/stress point, and that will be in the heat-affected zone immediately adjacent to the weld which attaches the intake pipe to the flange which is bolted [relatively motionless] to the block's mounting point.
@@edwatts9890 …….I disagree
@@1320Jason: Go ahead and do so. Bear in mind, though, that I am an aerospace engineer with a particular interest in shock, vibration, and acoustics.