LOL, that went right over my head, I thought of something else. So I clicked on the link. I haven’t worn a hat since 95 when I retired from the army. Except a few times when I forgot to wear a ponytail while working with power tools. I had to wear one to cover my shaved head while working outside. ;)
Hey Eric, bloody top video, as a diy-er and a Subaru owner, I really appreciate this. I have decided that this is a pivotal decision point, and with the confidence you've given me, I have decided to sell my car and never look back.
😂😂 it's not that bad granted I was working in a shop that was luckily in Florida and the ones I did I got lucky and they were almost to easy. At least give her a kiss good bye
@@RingZero you know what they say... The worst welders become the best grinders. People ask are you a welder? I say NO I can make two pieces of metal stick together but I'm not a welder
He's telling the truth. I changed my entire wheel assembly myself, and it was painful. I started at 1 PM and didn't finish until 9 PM. I had to fight to get the tie rod off, then had to fight to get the hub off the ball joint at the bottom. A pickle fork is the most valuable tool to have when doing anything with the wheel assembly. I learned that the hard way. Will I do it again? Absolutely. I now have the proper tools for the job and knowledge of what not to do. If the other bearing goes out, I think I can complete the job in an hour.
Eric O , u are the best my friend!!! I am a Subaru Mechanic and almost always just remove the knuckle and press the bearing out with a shop press. At our shop we always replace the backing plate with the bearing so we don’t care that the press mangles the backing plate. U are 100% correct it’s not a job for the timid. The bearing just laughs at the tool known as the hub buster. Your method was also very effective and faster than removing the knuckle. Thank You for this Video.
As much as I appreciate Eric's videos where he tracks down electrical or engine or other complicated problems using schematics and detailed logical troubleshooting, I have come to love these banging and crashing heavy tools videos changing out major parts. Sort of therapeutic for some reason.
It's therapeutic for me because I would never attempt a wheel bearing (I'm 74 and brake jobs are my specialty) -- and I own a Subaru Forester. Mine is getting up there (2009, 183,000 mi) and probably needs new bearings all the way around. Maybe I'll drive it cross country and ask Eric to have a look...
Nothing better than that moment you’re hitting something that’s seized with a big ass hammer or impact and it starts to move. I mean there are more enjoyable moments but you’re not wearing pants for those.
@@dchawk81problem is that Plastic ABS sensor is not cheap and won’t come out without another fight. Also can’t cook the axle boot. To remove the axle you need to remove the control arms and the bolts will be frozen in the sleeves. This is a huge can of worms if you start going too ham on it. 😂
I am a beginnerish DIYer. Tried to do this exact job with my buddy who has the same amount of experience. We used a slide hammer to successfully pull the front of the bearing off, but could not for the life of us get the housing separated. I called in support from my father in law, who is a big burly diesel mechanic. He brought air tools and an acetylene torch. Long story short, he couldn't get it off at my house, so he took the entire knuckle off and brought it back to his shop. He cut the housing in half with an acetylene torch and pressed the housing off with a press. I was out of a car for a week. He warned me TH-cam made it look easy but I wanted to try it myself...never again.
the night before- remove ABS sensor - flood with penatrating oil of choice and let that sucker soak. it will go much easier the next day. (might still need to slam it/ use a puller) but it will at least have some lube in there already. DO NOT! attempt front ball joints haha (also check out Mr Subaru)
A top flight diagnostician, a super sharp mechanic who figures out how to make things work, save time, and is willing to share his knowledge. That would be Eric O of South Main Auto. Well done sir.
Except he didnt take the ONE bolt out of the abs/wheel speed sensor, and probably didnt show the part where the dashboard lit up like a christmas tree from it breaking when the axle dist cover broke it, or the heat ruined it… trust me you should ALWAYS remove it before doing a bearing or hub on a subaru..
OK, being a welder for many years and working for caterpillar. I wanted to suggest some things that with that would help out the viewers. If you’re using a 110 V welder and you don’t have enough heat to make it,say welding that heavy of a metal piece. What you do is take your torch and heat up the wheel bearing side to red hot and then make your weld. I hope this helps someone. Great video!
Done many of these using every method you could think of except that.Last one I did was in my driveway for my son in law after I retired. Took about 2 hours and he was amazed how frozen it was. I have 3 welders and never thought of using them. Nice work/idea.
I did this with my buddy today, and was absolutely amazed how stuck that hub was. We beat the snot out of the hub with a sledge, did a couple hundred whacks with a 5lb slide hammer, and hammered in a chisel from the side. When we do the other side I’m breaking out the welder!
You are awesome. I love your video's. I'm almost 73, retired for 10 years, mechanic and shop owner for 50 years. You remind me of the fun I had doing what I loved.
I'm a Subaru tech and we use a similar tool to the bolt on hub bar. It's a giant metal tube with a flange welded to it to attach to the wheel studs. It's very heavy and a bit ackward to install but it works like a hot damn. Also, it sounds like a gong when you hit it so we stuff a shop fender cover into it. Fun and games!
I've done this recently and ended up resorting to using a set of chisels to separate the backing plate from the knuckle. It worked well and went quickly once I figured it out. All you need is a set of chisels of varying fatness and a small sledge. The suspension knuckle and the backing plate meet such that there is a V grove as the knuckle tapers to the meeting point of the backing plate. Find a chisel that is a bit larger in diameter than the V-groove. Spray the joint separation points both in back and front of the backing plate liberally with penetrating oil. Place the chisel on the side of the assembly opposite from the brake caliper mounting in that V-groove. Pound away with a small sledge until a gap appears. Insert fatter chisels as the joint opens and use additional chisels simultaneously along different points in the opening crack to provide more force overall without over stressing any single point. That joint won't take more than 5 minutes to crack open. And you won't damage the backing plate-it has a thick metal stiffener plate at the separation point that prevents bending. Be sure to grease or anti-seize the inner circumference of the bearing recess to make the job easier in the future.
Spot on. I actually have a set of cold chisels just for bearing removal. I also use SIL-Glyde for the pilot diameter just in case I end up doing it again.
You made a nightmare almost a walk in the park. I'm sharing this with my coworkers. These are about the bane of our existence. Always enjoy watching your knowledge.
Just wanted to say thanks. I've saved so much money learning from you. Also, I've left your channel on autoplay in my living room tv and its like working in my own shop! The sounds of the ugga duggas, the air tools blasting, the sound effects, it's pure asmr for me !
We've done 4 of these in the past year, one was really low miles garage kept and came apart easy by Subaru standards. The other was not and did not. We took both our big bore air hammers and ran them to rotate the bearing in opposite direction from the other to spin it in the knuckle. Pushed it back and forth a few times then lined up one behind the knuckle to push out on the hub and it pooped right out. Other side slide hammered out once we spun it with both air hammers. A good alternate method if your welder sucks. We have 3 498 hammers in the shop, such is Chicago life! A tip on keeping your 498 pointed punches from turning into flat punches, I case hardened mine crudely with the torch and some used oil, it's held it's point for a long time now.
If you don't have a welder, an even better way is to use an air chisel on the back side of the backing plate. Use the flat bit towards the top where there is a place to wedge the bit between the housing and the bearing hub which is about 3/8 of an inch wide. I fought one for several hours before going back to the drawing board and finding a TH-cam video which showed the procedure. MUCH quicker and easier than the welder!
Yeah I do the same. Chisel bit on an air hammer and get in between the bearing and the backing plate. The plate takes a bit of damage, but just hammer it out flat after and off you go!
Excellent video and strategy, Mr. O! I was a Subaru dealer tech for several years in the rust belt of Chicago... We did many of these, and that was only on dealer-age vehicles. It was rare to see a 10+ yr/old vehicle like the ones you're always working on. Our tool was the hub shocker type, bolted on to two of the lug studs, about a foot long striker plate hanging off the side of the car. You'd hit it with the "Purse" (read 4lb sledge) for upwards of 30 minutes sometimes, until it had finally started to budge, only to jam up unless you were gonna try to reset the tool onto another pair of studs somewhere. Yeah, good luck. Then, you'd go to town with Tha Dawg (air hammer) for another few minutes to punch it out the rest of the way and "selectively texture" the knuckle face as little as possible in the meantime.... Suffice to say, I am a big fan of your approach, Eric. I only wish they allowed us to have a welder for such things at the dealer...
For those who don't have a mig - If you only have a stick welder use a 6010 or 6011 rod and that will have so much penetration for the weld bead, even Tommy would be jealous.
@@feetfats1 why? Personally I wouldn't use 7018. Its not fast freezing. The bead is wide. Its a bitch to restart unless you file the tip every time. Also 7018 doesn't penetrate for a deep root. It's why we don't use it for a root, only a cap. Also unless it's fresh avocado, hydro rods go south and no one is buying a bundle of hydro rods for 2.
@@bstamand1985 You're obviously not aware that 7018 is used for root & cap in other countries because 6010/6011 isn't available. It takes more skill to run 7018 open root than using a fast-freeze electrode 😊
@@feetfats1 Yes, 6013/7014/7018 can be used (low/medium penetration) hence the reason his poor quality MIG welds worked just fine. Some people have no real world experience and apparently don't know that 6010/6011 welds are brittle when compared to 6013/7014/7018's ductility which comes in real handy when using brute force to remove things 😊 There's a reason 6010/6011 root passes are covered with a more ductile welding electrode material. Some people apparently think the world revolves around pipe welding 😉
When you have the Knowledge and the ability to share it. Makes you a master craftsman. Showing us your little secrets make it even a great pleasure. Thank You so much.
Kudos to you, Eric, for showing us how to "Do the Impossible" while maintaining your sense of humor and keeping it family friendly! We should contact Rainman Ray to see if he can adjust the "Tool Gravity" in you area 🙂
I Stumbled upon your channel. I am impressed and horrified with the amount of rust you mechanics in the North East have to deal with. You guys are just Tough up there in the Rust Belt! Adapting, Improvising, and Overcoming! Carry On Sir!
Yes doing a show & tell helps much toward what mechanics do and the issues they must overcome on daily basis. Yes, kudos for video presented and thank you. For both vehicle owners' and more so for mechanics dedicated to quality works: The issues are many, from design of mechanical assembly, how well it's made, redundancies for durability, serviceablilty, parts availability, mfgr/gov planned-obsolescence, costs of parts, etc. Then know-how, tools, equipment, critical thinking & creativity, patience to make reliable repairs / refurbishing works. As to "Rust Belt" area 80% of contiguous USA and 90% of CAN achieve Rust Belt by "Official Political Policies & Practises" by govs' Towns, Cities, Counties, States/Provinces, applying Salts, NaCl, CaCl, MgCl, KcL, CMA, in Crystal forms, blends & brines, etc during each winter season. Millions of tonnes applied each winter. They are all corrosive, deteriorate cars, trucks, roads, bridges, utilities, & all infrastructures causing hazards, perils, ruin, wastes, pollution, and massive costs/ debts plus interest / usury: aka Indentured servitude, serfdom, slavery. Coupled with requiring replacement of cars, trucks, etc sooner/ faster and faster. All under illusions of Salts assuring safety during travels. If you like, learn more about road Salts. They have migrated/flowed and are in freshwater ponds, creeks, rivers, lakes, reservoirs, aquifers, and in drinking water.
Takes me back to the Subi dealership. Guys were actually super happy to get these (assuming they were cash and not warranty, which they were for the most part) because they paid so well and because of the method. We just took out the speed sensor, didn't even move the parking broke, and basically hooked up a big L-shaped piece of steel to two of the studs, then proceed to whack the everliving **** out of it with a sledge until it came off. It was a badge of honor as a new kid to get one of these off yourself and the whole shop would start teasing you/cheering you/jumping in if you had one that was really stuck. GRANTED, this was in New Jersey and not on the coast so I could see some being impossible through this means depending on the amount of rust.
Just did my daughter’s 2015 a week ago. Stumbled on this video by coincidence. I have all the tools at work, but had to do the job in my driveway (long story). Used a sledge hammer and PB Blaster. Hub came out. I’ve done many jobs like this, but this was my first Subaru. Wasn’t that bad. Maybe I got lucky.
They salt here in the mountains of Asheville NC as well; I too was able to remove it with a small sledge fairly easily; one of the four bolts prior to that though was the problem area for me.
Having done about 4 sets myself, 2 on my own STi, and 2 on Customer vehicles, I'm gonna have to work on trying this. I'm absolutely convinced that the rust holds those in there. The bolts are nothing more than place-setters or holding fixtures. The rust is what holds those in there.
By far the worst rear wheel bearing that I ever did in my life! Just finished a 2014 Outback from Pennsylvania using your hack and still was hard to remove! Thanks for all your videos you have been a big help on more repairs than you'll ever know.
2014 Subaru Legacy. Home Mechanic. Rear hub removed on drivers' side. Will do Passenger side next weekend. Man was this stuck. Even my rotor wouldn't come off without a 2-pound persuasion tool. Tried 1/2-inch bolt and nuts twice. No go. Stepped up to 5/8 and finally broke loose. Hammer then jack it out. Did that several time and success. Tried heat, slide hammer, your way is Medieval but EFFECTIVE. Seen several videos of different ways to do this but yours was right up my alley. Yes, a welder is needed, and some good air tools, but I have those tools so no problem. My battery powered impact wouldn't touch it either. None of the videos I watched were going to work on my particular situation. 127,000 miles and corroded terribly. Was quoted just at $1000,00 dollars for replacing both rear hubs by a local shop. Not sure if they would have completed it successfully without a much higher bill. I will at about $500.00 with new rotors, hubs, and pads for both sides. Good video, great technique on using the KISS principle. Wish me luck on the passenger side. The "if you can't weld good, weld a lot technique will be used. Good job.
Just another demonstration of inventive thinking, and use of cheap materials to achieve a consistent result in adverse conditions. Eric, your thinking process is priceless, and thank you for sharing your experience and skill for all to learn from. Nothing wrong with your welding, it worked!
Eric I wished you posted this 3 weeks ago. I spent 5 hours trying to break loose the bearing in my 2009 forester. I used the bolt forcing trick, air hammer and lots of beating.. ended up taking the knuckle out and placing it on boards and hammering it out. Once the knuckle was out it wasn’t too bad to hammer out.. if I would have taken the knuckle out right away it would have saved me 4 hours… thanks for this trick adding it to my bag of tricks for next time
I just got done pulling a rear wheel bearing on my 2018 Subaru. I'm in Michigan so it was plenty rusty. I bought some M-12 bolts and bolted the slide hammer to the front of the wheel bearing and smacked it out (after pulling the hub like you do in the video). I don't have a welder, so I had to make do. Took about 10 minutes of running the slide hammer to pull it out. Now I'm watching the video again to figure out how to put together the parking break. Thanks for the great info. You saved me a bundle!
I did one once. Took the flange off with the slide hammer.. left the other part of the bearing stuck like the video.. Tried air chisel, didn't work. Did exactly what you did.. got some long M-12 bolts and used the slide hammer again. Came out in 5 hits. The rear bearing is now gone.. and I'm here looking for any different tricks.. (no welder here...). Live in Canada so lots of rust here.
Great video! I've had good success punching out a wheel stud and using the old bolt technique- but I weld the hub to the bearing case so it doesn't pull apart. Very similar
Diyer here ...I used the wheel hub removal tool where you attach remover to the hub then used a sledge hammer on it. Worked out in a few bonks. I pushed the CV axle on the second one and it came out in 2 hits. I'm in NYC where we got salt but this looked a lot worse than mine. Funny to see the exhaust hanger broke off . Subarus seem to have same common failures
@@shahsmerdis I'm here in NNY near the Canadian border. I have been wrenching for over 40 years and have to agree that these little high mileage rusty Subarus just keep going. But that just makes them harder than hell to work on. I decided to buy one of those hub shockers from snappy and used it a few times with success after a while of torture to the tool. I had a Subaru rear wheel bearing that was almost impossible to get loose with that damn tool. Every one of the mechanics took turns, making a game out of it till they bent the tool and snapped the wheel studs. I ended up taking the knuckle out and using the old hydraulic press and a torch.
For these, I use a slide hammer to pop the outer bearing race off, same as in the video, then use the slide hammer with bolts running through two of the four bolt holes that normally attach the bearing to the knuckle. Before sliding, cook the bearing housing with a hot torch to discombobulate the corrosion. If you left the speed sensor in (I don't), don't cook it, heat the opposite half - and make damn sure the axle is free floating or you'll rip the sensor in two. Slide hammer is weighted with two gym weights (total 24 pounds). A few HARD pulls and she's out. Wear leather gloves - weights like to pinch... Edited to add: If you're doing this in your driveway, support the knuckle with a jack until the suspension compresses somewhat; things won't bounce around so much when you use a slide hammer or hub tamer. Probably puts more force/shock into the corrosion.
@Slicerwizard, that sounds sensible. Frankly, I think I'd rather just dispose of this vehicle.🤣Seriously I wouldn't be surprise if the factory repair manual calls for removing the axle from the transaxle assembly, remove the knuckle from the vehicle and place it on the bench to perform the separation there. That way they can overcharge the customer for hours and hours of labor that really isn't necessary. I was once charged ~9 hours for "diagnostics & repairs" for what was less than 2 hours worth of work. Funny enough "new management/ownership" took over shortly after & they're trying to "re-earn my business". If you can help it, stay away from "stealerships" folks.
What area are you in? Slider hammers are usually a joke no matter how its placed on the part; the force he applied here with that bolt may be a ton at least. I think my solution would be to shift the wheel bearing by hitting it on the side and then use the bolts like to mention to apply the force against them. I'm sure Eric has done that but from my experience, it is easier to shift than to pull put as these wheel bearings tend to form ribs that won't allow it to come out.
I bet the heat from the welding plays an important part in the success of this method. Combined with the jacking force from the bolt it’s a knockout 1-2 punch. Great video! Thanks!
When I use a slide hammer I wrap and twist a tie down strap around the weight , leave some slack and pull on the tie strap , I get better leverage and force with out shocking my elbow and wrist.
Thanks for this. I knew I was in for a rough one doing this job tomorrow. I was ready to pull the whole knuckle off, but in the rust belt, the fewer fasteners you have to touch, the better. So I'm going to go straight for this method without trying anything else. Will report back to say how it goes.
Reporting back as promised. This method worked great. On the first side my welds started to fail and the bolt started going askew, but it was enough to break the rust union anyway. I took what I learned from that near failure and on the otherside I preheated the bearing , welded two nuts as before, and used a broken bolt beneath them instead of a third nut. This time it came off like butter. Super easy. 110v flux core. Thanks South Main.
I generally use the Queen Mary and a chain to remove those Subaru bearings, but thanks to Eric O's ingenuity, I can do it the easy way!🤣 All kidding aside, GREAT JOB Eric and thanks!
I've seen this done so many ways and it never works out well but your way was absolutely the best, there was no trauma to the knuckle like I seen with other mechanics doing this.
I followed this just as shown, it went just like yours, initial pressure broke the front weld, I added more weld and turned the bolt and it started coming out. I would leave pressure on the bolt and smack the bearing housing with a 1 lb hammer and give the bolt a couple more turns. Smack turn smack turn, this was a little scary but it came out pretty straight forward. Big Thank You!
This is the same method grandpa c dub teached us youngsters growing up around the junkyard fixing all our own cars and trucks love it always remember the lessons from your elders! Love ya grandpa thank u !
Great tip, Eric O! I work at a Subaru dealership. We just replace the entire knuckle. I'm gonna try this trick and hopefully save my customers some money.
The new knuckle approach would be the fastest and cleanest is my opinion and least chance of a call back. I’m reading all the posts on the hammering and the bushings on the upper control and the trail arm will only take so much pounding . Thanks !
But with this method it drastically reduces the amount of vibration from the pounding on the bushings (However they are designed to take years of pothole punishment with a couple thousand pounds on top of them). And not all of my customers have the extra money to needlessly throw at the job, if it's not absolutely required, as well as the satisfaction that the mechanic gets knowing that he has just earned a satisfied customer that will be back for future repairs.
I noticed you placed the bolt opposite the speed sensor, excellent man you think of everything, most of the time. Another excellent labor saving video as usual!
living in the PNW i dont have any rust issues, but this is a good tip to consider if i ever have to re do the rear bearings again. i was able to sucessfully use two of the mounting bolts to hammer out both sides of my rear bearings with ease. the hardest part on one side for me was getting the dang brake rotor off. i did not have access to air or an air hammer when i replaced it in my uncles garage the last time i did a rear bearing on my 09 outback.
Doing them in my garage at home without an air hammer, welder or torch in the rust belt i used a can of pb blaster, a 10 lbs sledge and about 2 hours of swinging at it for one hub to finally pop loose. Fun times.
Interesting approach. I do many of these Subarus. I bought the bar that bolts onto the hub face. I count the blows with the 8 lb sledge hammer and I have never exceeded 20. I was a bit surprised that the bearing came out of the backing plate with so little work. I usually have to resort to heat and hammering. I found out about the bar from a friend who is a Subaru service manager.
@Paopolomololl Hi, I was actually asking eldoradony the question since he's the one that mentioned the bar. After thinking about it for a minute I think he was referring to the Hub Buster bar which I already have.
DIYer here from Canada (Manitoba so we see alot of snow). Did this job a few years ago in my apartment parking lot with basic hand tools after watching you and a few others do it. A mechanic saw me struggling with it and suggested I use a chisel to wedge it between the hub and the back plate. Got it out after several hours and ended up mangling the back plate a bit but nothing a hammer couldn’t flatten out. Was the first “real” job I ever did on my car other than an oil change so it was definitely a struggle but I felt pretty damn good about myself when I took it on a test drive and stopped hearing that damn bearing roar.
I am really glad that I watched this after I changed mine on my Subaru. I was really lucky. I live in West Michigan also. Thanks for your wisdom, Eric.
@stevemurray710 I would say the newer are harder to get out. If you end up having to remove the whole knuckle on that 2000 though be ready to fight those long knuckle bolts. Having a hub remover/installer like the astro 78825 will make quick work of the older ones.
Dear Eric - at 6:11 you mentioned my way. But said it doesn't work. I actually partially got this idea - from YOU. Because I've seen you use a very large Impact Hammer on the front - trying to get a Subaru Bearing off. I live just outside of Seattle - so a LOT of stuff is readily available. For example - Tacoma Screw is just a couple of miles down the road. But hey - HD's and Lowe's are all over - and they also sell BOLTS. So - this works like a charm. FOUR - longer bolts of the same thread as the Bearing assembly. About 2" longer. Plus an air hammer socket adapter such as the 3715; or 37316; Remove the 4 bolts holding the Bearing Hub in. Thread in your four LONGER same thread bolts into the Hub Assembly from the rear. Just so the threaded part of the bad bearing is filled. Install your Socket Adapter onto your Air Hammer. Put an impact socket onto the adapter. Air Hammer to the Rear - start driving out the Hub. Just alternate so you don't go cattywampus. Works. And easy peasy. No welding required. You can also purchase the 8629 Universal Wheel Bearing Hub Removal Tool; and that works - but is more work than just the 4 longer bolts and the Air Hammer - which quickly make the Bearing Hub on any Subaru or other car - come out.
@@LesReeves That’s a shame that you had to throw it away. If it was submerged in fresh water there might have been a chance to clean it up, dry it out, and use it again. Of course MIG welders span a wide range of prices. There are some ridiculously cheap units sold at the big box stores and they might not be worthwhile trying to repair. But the commercial units like I have in my shop are probably worth taking in for service or even drying it out yourself if you or someone you know is comfortable with electronics.
No kidding! I had on a cheap black set of I assume we're nitro maybe and struck a spot weld a few years back and one of those damn gloves went up in flames so damn fast that I almost needed new underwear. 😅
Eric nice repair if I may suggest for the next one is "make a tool" that can be reused and only weld the facing nut of the back plate to the bearing hub. Make a collar welded to that nut you use which looked like grade 8, then use a bolt that goes thru collar nut tool to the flange thread. You got a great way and to have a pre made tool will make every job easier from that point. Savings is the point but you have the idea just tweak it to make it better. I just loved making tools working for MB repair and my tools helped the whole shop. I left some of them when I retired, very happy guys.
I did the rear wheel bearing on my 05 Legacy, and for some reason, I don't remember it being difficult. I live in the northeast so lots of rust. I think I just used a BFH and beat on the outer hub flange and used a little heat and of course, the WD40. Thanks for the videos, you are a very talented mechanic.
Those snap on needle nose pliers are awesome. Love mine. Those Subaru rear bearings are easier than the older explorers with independent rear suspension. No one changes them till they have baked onto the axles
I have just recently come across your videos 2 months ago. It is a joy to watch and thanks for sharing your experiences. Good to see you truly troubleshoot vehicles.
Here in Australia, we don't have too many issues with rust, unless the vehicle is a 4×4 driven on the beach, or cars that live near the ocean. All we need to do is show the old bearing a Kangaroo or a Drop Bear and the bearing gets the F outta there all by itself🤣🤣🤣👍🇦🇺
I did one of mine a couple years ago, and it started out just like this video, to include the slide hammer and the front half of the hub falling off. Then I went through about 5 days of hammering, three cans of penetrating fluid, a whole can of map gas, several chewed up and broken bolts. I finally said "f*** it," took off the whole knuckle, and paid someone to get it out. Great video!
I noticed your braces or retainer I havent been watching as much recently as I have been the last year or so and I gotta say I think thats the greatest indicator of your success. dental work isnt cheap and when you're paying for, possibly, cosmetic work that really shows how far you have come. congratulations on your success on youtube and in your shop you deserve it!
Damn that was impressive. Never thought of doing that. Last time i did that for my wife’s car i just used a torch and hammer until it cracked loose. Took forever though. This is way cleaner, deff doing this next time 😁
Great video, Eric! I just finished replacing the rear hubs on a 2018 Crosstrek with very little rust, and it was still an absolute bear. Ended up knocking out a stud and using the bolt and nut technique (to anyone considering this: you’ll want a 4+” long fully threaded 1/2” bolt that is at least grade 5). Like in the video, only the outer half of the hub came off, with the inner part still fused to the backing plate and knuckle. So I threaded the four hub mounting bolts in about 3/4 the way, then pounded on each bolt head from the inside with a socket, extension and sledge hammer while shouting obscenities. When they finally cracked loose, a few hits from a sledge and cold chisel wedged between the knuckle and backing plate got them the rest of the way out. Had to file down a few spots on the mounting face of the knuckle where the chisel had buggered the metal a bit. It was not a fun job, but definitely learned a lot from it 🤙
Here's one more hug for you from Northern Ohio 🤗. Wish I'd tried this method first, but it seemed a little extreme so I tried about 5 or 6 other methods first and all I got was bloody, bruised and exhausted. finally tried this one and was immediately victorious (although I doubled it up and put one bolt on either side). 3 bucks worth of nuts and bolts from home depot was all it took. Thank You Thank You Thank You.
I had the extreme fortune to do a set of rear bearings on a 2015 legacy. Im a shad tree mechanic and quite luckily the car only had about 80k in miles. It took me a total of 3 hours for both rear bearings and after watching numerous horrendous videos in the subject i was really surprised how lucky i got. Now all i have to do is replace them about every 5 years to make sure i dont have a nightmare scenario. Have a great day folks.
You should have checked for warranty. I’ve sent a few to the dealer and so far so good for the customer. It’s a quiet Warranty, not a recall and dealer might fight you on it but google it. Not all Subarus but worth the look to anyone watching that hasn’t done the job already. Shop may lose the work but gained more trust and thanks from customers
After trying this and many other techniques I finally pulled the knuckle off the car. Then the slick trick is to put a heavy bead of weld INSIDE the rear portion of the bearing, let it cool and then the thing pops right out. The heavy held shrinks as it cools and pulls the rest in the thing inward. I couldn't believe how well that work. Hat tip to my farmer friend Frank for demonstrating this bit of magic.
Love your channel and "can do" attitude! Also your willingness to share your shop adventures. Besides the welder one very useful tool for jobs like this is a butchered C-clamp. Preferably a good forged one with rugged square threads. Cut it off in the middle of the C and grease the threads so weld spatter doesn't stick to the threads. Weld it on to the housing surface on the side toward the thread. Tighten against the backing plate and if you have to hit the back of the thread with the air hammer. Once done back it off and snap it over toward the weld. Have used this many times to hold crap tight or move it. Works as a temporary fixture.
@@cyrusmoser1090 you are correct, a welding dog is a handy tool. I prefer the C-clamp for one because the one I use has a square thread, can be tightened without a wrench, is of quality forged steel and can be used over and over. Just snap it forward with it backed off - you may not get enough throw and leverage to back break the weld with a nut and plate.
Neat welding trick! You can also weld yourself a custom slide hammer adaptor from old wheel studs. Those wheel bearing bolts are the same pitch as the wheel studs. The bearing accepts the stud from the wrong side and you can just whack it out! No need to dissasemble the parking brake shoes. Here in north those subies rust a lot and haven't yet lost to a single bearing with this trick. You need a hefty slide hammer though.
he said, using the wheel bearing threads to push or pull the bearing out will just push or pull the threads out also, which is why he did this trick/method. Did you not catch the bit where Eric said he's tried everything there is and only this works. Well, this works without fucking up any threads or without taking several hours. You'd probably need a slide hammer about 4x bigger than the one he used to take the hub face out. Which I imagine is not cheap and rather expensive. Again, he mentioned a puller that's been made for this exact job and how it takes a long time to set up and costs about $900 which isn't worth the time, or money when this method took less than 30 minutes.
@@mrtickles5982 Oh, I'm not upset. You made a suggestion, you could've said "this is what I've done, specifically on these wheel bearings) Then I honestly wouldn't have said anything as you were basically just making a suggestion that he said he's already done. Did you do it on one of these wheel bearings? Or a different car?
Mr. Eric, love your videos and you're an amazing mechanic! I've learned lots from you. Hopefully I can return the favour. I'm in Canada so maybe geographical we deal with different challenges but I've been working on subaru for 15 years now and done dozens of these bearings. I've tried every trick too and I've got it down to a science now!! Here's what you do .... get your big air hammer with a long chisel bit and you take it from the back sides of the backing plate and wedge it between the hub and the backing plate. If you get it in just the right spot you can wedge the whole backing plate and bearing away from the hub if you work it in like a wedge slowly from either side. I've done it many times now. Never broken an ABS sensor never taken the ebrake shoes off. The backing plate will separate from the hub attached to the cable still and then you just have to use a small sledge and beat the bearing out of the backing plate from the back side. Out of all the methods I've ever tried this is the only way I have success every time. Sometimes you squish the metal on the hub a little bit but I just smooth it out after with a roloc disc on my die grinder!! Give it a shot next time and keep up the videos I could watch you work all day! Love the honest humble approach 👌
Great technique and excellent video. I have absolutely no need to change a wheel bearing on a Subaru or on any car for that matter, yet I watched the entire video and found it very therapeutic, so thanks for posting it. AI must have reached a new level of intelligence - the TH-cam algorithm seems to have correctly anticipated what I needed. 😊
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Great tip Eric. I admire the fact that your able to keep the "G" rating even when frustrated. Mine unfortunately is still rather "x" rated...lol👍
LOL, that went right over my head, I thought of something else. So I clicked on the link. I haven’t worn a hat since 95 when I retired from the army. Except a few times when I forgot to wear a ponytail while working with power tools. I had to wear one to cover my shaved head while working outside. ;)
@@kenj.8897 well, at least you wouldn't have to feed the hat.
Hey Eric, bloody top video, as a diy-er and a Subaru owner, I really appreciate this. I have decided that this is a pivotal decision point, and with the confidence you've given me, I have decided to sell my car and never look back.
this guy...
lmfaooo
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 it's not that bad granted I was working in a shop that was luckily in Florida and the ones I did I got lucky and they were almost to easy. At least give her a kiss good bye
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I thought the most feared job of all-time was working the complaint desk at Dorman auto parts
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I thought it was working the service desk at the Kia/Hyundai dealership.
That bearing puler is a crazy price I will never buy one
You buy crappy Chinese parts you should be expecting crappy Chinese parts.
Man I could only imagine! What do you expect when you buy those dog shit parts but people are ignorant as hell so I could see that job being horrible!
"if you can't weld good, weld a lot" Best line.
I liked the line as well, but that could also give birth to a lot of bad welders 🙂
@@RingZero you know what they say... The worst welders become the best grinders. People ask are you a welder? I say NO I can make two pieces of metal stick together but I'm not a welder
Measure with a mic, cut with an axe, beat to fit, paint to match.
The bigger the blob the better the job.
applies to tying knots too.
Damn!!! Finally real world mechanic issues in a TH-cam video that’s short and sweet and to the point. Love it!
Its a good video but he should have put some anti seize in the bore before installing the hub bearing Assembly.
@ for the new to mechanic types yeah I agree I guess. But us regular techs don’t need exact procedures all I was thinking.
He's telling the truth. I changed my entire wheel assembly myself, and it was painful. I started at 1 PM and didn't finish until 9 PM. I had to fight to get the tie rod off, then had to fight to get the hub off the ball joint at the bottom. A pickle fork is the most valuable tool to have when doing anything with the wheel assembly. I learned that the hard way.
Will I do it again? Absolutely. I now have the proper tools for the job and knowledge of what not to do. If the other bearing goes out, I think I can complete the job in an hour.
Those eight-hour learning curves Every. First. Time.🕰
Eric O , u are the best my friend!!! I am a Subaru Mechanic and almost always just remove the knuckle and press the bearing out with a shop press. At our shop we always replace the backing plate with the bearing so we don’t care that the press mangles the backing plate. U are 100% correct it’s not a job for the timid. The bearing just laughs at the tool known as the hub buster. Your method was also very effective and faster than removing the knuckle. Thank You for this Video.
You're going to look like a rockstar next week at work..😂
PUT THE TORCH TO THE HOUSING AND PUT 4 BOLTS ON LOSELY AND HAMMER IT OUT AINT ALL THAT HARD JUST GOT TO STOP AND THINK
@@allanfranco4464 Ope, we got us a thinker! And he loves to yell!
Lisle literally makes a hub pressing tool very similar to what he just welded.
Lisle 40100 Hub Remover was a fail. As was the hub buster .
My welding motto (13:10) is "The bigger the blob, the better the job". :)
"Grinder and paint make me the welder I 'aint"
@@iskandertime747 yea real welders are proud of them beads .. not me
i use Dobby Don's welding and dog kennel .the bigger the gob the better the job.
My brother said that about a girl he took home one night.
YOU CAN WELD ALL THE BIRD SHIT YOU LIKE ,BUT ITS NOT HOW NICE THE WELD ITS HAVING GOOD PENETRATION THATS THE QUALITY OF WELD
As much as I appreciate Eric's videos where he tracks down electrical or engine or other complicated problems using schematics and detailed logical troubleshooting, I have come to love these banging and crashing heavy tools videos changing out major parts. Sort of therapeutic for some reason.
I'm disappointed if he doesn't use fire.
When I replaced the 5th wheel bushings on my Mack today it made me sad that fire wasn't required.
It's therapeutic for me because I would never attempt a wheel bearing (I'm 74 and brake jobs are my specialty) -- and I own a Subaru Forester. Mine is getting up there (2009, 183,000 mi) and probably needs new bearings all the way around. Maybe I'll drive it cross country and ask Eric to have a look...
Nothing better than that moment you’re hitting something that’s seized with a big ass hammer or impact and it starts to move. I mean there are more enjoyable moments but you’re not wearing pants for those.
@@dchawk81problem is that Plastic ABS sensor is not cheap and won’t come out without another fight. Also can’t cook the axle boot. To remove the axle you need to remove the control arms and the bolts will be frozen in the sleeves. This is a huge can of worms if you start going too ham on it. 😂
Truly an awesome method. I wish I searched up this solution *BEFORE* I tackled the job. Oh well, we got it done with your help. Thank you, sir!
I am a beginnerish DIYer. Tried to do this exact job with my buddy who has the same amount of experience. We used a slide hammer to successfully pull the front of the bearing off, but could not for the life of us get the housing separated. I called in support from my father in law, who is a big burly diesel mechanic. He brought air tools and an acetylene torch. Long story short, he couldn't get it off at my house, so he took the entire knuckle off and brought it back to his shop. He cut the housing in half with an acetylene torch and pressed the housing off with a press. I was out of a car for a week. He warned me TH-cam made it look easy but I wanted to try it myself...never again.
Good on your for giving it a go. Don’t know til ya try it. Next time it’ll go twice as fast! Don’t be a quitter!!
Subaru wheel bearings are well known in the shop, the rear ones will never come apart
the night before- remove ABS sensor - flood with penatrating oil of choice and let that sucker soak. it will go much easier the next day. (might still need to slam it/ use a puller) but it will at least have some lube in there already.
DO NOT! attempt front ball joints haha (also check out Mr Subaru)
Do they not have rear complete knuckles? Cost prohibitive? Might be easier and cheaper than a shop to go all new
Lol just replace the hub next time it costs less.
Thank you for continuing to share these videos, you’re a busy man and it’s appreciated that you take the time to record for the masses.
TH-cam pays more than the repair. he is a genious. in cars and in business.
A top flight diagnostician, a super sharp mechanic who figures out how to make things work, save time, and is willing to share his knowledge. That would be Eric O of South Main Auto. Well done sir.
Except he didnt take the ONE bolt out of the abs/wheel speed sensor, and probably didnt show the part where the dashboard lit up like a christmas tree from it breaking when the axle dist cover broke it, or the heat ruined it… trust me you should ALWAYS remove it before doing a bearing or hub on a subaru..
OK, being a welder for many years and working for caterpillar. I wanted to suggest some things that with that would help out the viewers. If you’re using a 110 V welder and you don’t have enough heat to make it,say welding that heavy of a metal piece. What you do is take your torch and heat up the wheel bearing side to red hot and then make your weld. I hope this helps someone. Great video!
Done many of these using every method you could think of except that.Last one I did was in my driveway for my son in law after I retired. Took about 2 hours and he was amazed how frozen it was. I have 3 welders and never thought of using them. Nice work/idea.
I did this with my buddy today, and was absolutely amazed how stuck that hub was. We beat the snot out of the hub with a sledge, did a couple hundred whacks with a 5lb slide hammer, and hammered in a chisel from the side. When we do the other side I’m breaking out the welder!
You are awesome. I love your video's. I'm almost 73, retired for 10 years, mechanic and shop owner for 50 years. You remind me of the fun I had doing what I loved.
I'm a Subaru tech and we use a similar tool to the bolt on hub bar. It's a giant metal tube with a flange welded to it to attach to the wheel studs. It's very heavy and a bit ackward to install but it works like a hot damn. Also, it sounds like a gong when you hit it so we stuff a shop fender cover into it. Fun and games!
Lisle also makes this similar hub pressing tool as well.
Very courteous of you to Fluid Film the new bearing, that'll make it easier for the next guy at Wilbert's to remove it.
Heh, given the rust most cars he works on don't last long enough to need this repair twice anyway.
@@jaturnley That's the joke. The next guy pulling this will be at the junkyard removing it for it's own car.
@@sebastien4565 Yep, Wilbert's is the junkyard - you have got to be hungry to use junkyard bearings ...
@@scottbaker9066 Hope I'm never that desperate (using secondhand wheel bearings.)
And still not a sponsor.
I've done this recently and ended up resorting to using a set of chisels to separate the backing plate from the knuckle. It worked well and went quickly once I figured it out. All you need is a set of chisels of varying fatness and a small sledge. The suspension knuckle and the backing plate meet such that there is a V grove as the knuckle tapers to the meeting point of the backing plate. Find a chisel that is a bit larger in diameter than the V-groove. Spray the joint separation points both in back and front of the backing plate liberally with penetrating oil. Place the chisel on the side of the assembly opposite from the brake caliper mounting in that V-groove. Pound away with a small sledge until a gap appears. Insert fatter chisels as the joint opens and use additional chisels simultaneously along different points in the opening crack to provide more force overall without over stressing any single point. That joint won't take more than 5 minutes to crack open. And you won't damage the backing plate-it has a thick metal stiffener plate at the separation point that prevents bending. Be sure to grease or anti-seize the inner circumference of the bearing recess to make the job easier in the future.
Spot on. I actually have a set of cold chisels just for bearing removal. I also use SIL-Glyde for the pilot diameter just in case I end up doing it again.
You made a nightmare almost a walk in the park. I'm sharing this with my coworkers. These are about the bane of our existence. Always enjoy watching your knowledge.
Just wanted to say thanks. I've saved so much money learning from you. Also, I've left your channel on autoplay in my living room tv and its like working in my own shop! The sounds of the ugga duggas, the air tools blasting, the sound effects, it's pure asmr for me !
I’ve spent 40 years turning wrenches……. You provide endless entertainment 😂👍
This September I will have 40 years as well and yes I find his videos both entertaining and sometimes I learn a new trick.
We've done 4 of these in the past year, one was really low miles garage kept and came apart easy by Subaru standards. The other was not and did not. We took both our big bore air hammers and ran them to rotate the bearing in opposite direction from the other to spin it in the knuckle. Pushed it back and forth a few times then lined up one behind the knuckle to push out on the hub and it pooped right out. Other side slide hammered out once we spun it with both air hammers. A good alternate method if your welder sucks. We have 3 498 hammers in the shop, such is Chicago life! A tip on keeping your 498 pointed punches from turning into flat punches, I case hardened mine crudely with the torch and some used oil, it's held it's point for a long time now.
Would think all Master Mechanic's have their own method. Great video.
I do what you described. Works well.
@@robertfitzgerald3432 Absolutely
The most entertaining mechanic on the Internet! Great video, thanks!
If you don't have a welder, an even better way is to use an air chisel on the back side of the backing plate. Use the flat bit towards the top where there is a place to wedge the bit between the housing and the bearing hub which is about 3/8 of an inch wide. I fought one for several hours before going back to the drawing board and finding a TH-cam video which showed the procedure. MUCH quicker and easier than the welder!
Yeah I do the same. Chisel bit on an air hammer and get in between the bearing and the backing plate. The plate takes a bit of damage, but just hammer it out flat after and off you go!
Thank you! I'm about ready to flatbed my car to the shop. I'll try that!
How’d it go?
@@liberalsockpuppet4772 Did it work for you?
@@martyc5674 I ended up using a torch and 3 lb sledgehammer. Tbat did it.
Excellent video and strategy, Mr. O!
I was a Subaru dealer tech for several years in the rust belt of Chicago... We did many of these, and that was only on dealer-age vehicles. It was rare to see a 10+ yr/old vehicle like the ones you're always working on.
Our tool was the hub shocker type, bolted on to two of the lug studs, about a foot long striker plate hanging off the side of the car. You'd hit it with the "Purse" (read 4lb sledge) for upwards of 30 minutes sometimes, until it had finally started to budge, only to jam up unless you were gonna try to reset the tool onto another pair of studs somewhere. Yeah, good luck. Then, you'd go to town with Tha Dawg (air hammer) for another few minutes to punch it out the rest of the way and "selectively texture" the knuckle face as little as possible in the meantime....
Suffice to say, I am a big fan of your approach, Eric. I only wish they allowed us to have a welder for such things at the dealer...
I was skimming the comments for references to this method. Now I know it doesn't work on Subies.
For those who don't have a mig - If you only have a stick welder use a 6010 or 6011 rod and that will have so much penetration for the weld bead, even Tommy would be jealous.
And Bob's your uncle😄
7018 would be better for this application but your choice would work good to.
@@feetfats1 why? Personally I wouldn't use 7018. Its not fast freezing. The bead is wide. Its a bitch to restart unless you file the tip every time. Also 7018 doesn't penetrate for a deep root. It's why we don't use it for a root, only a cap. Also unless it's fresh avocado, hydro rods go south and no one is buying a bundle of hydro rods for 2.
@@bstamand1985 You're obviously not aware that 7018 is used for root & cap in other countries because 6010/6011 isn't available. It takes more skill to run 7018 open root than using a fast-freeze electrode 😊
@@feetfats1 Yes, 6013/7014/7018 can be used (low/medium penetration) hence the reason his poor quality MIG welds worked just fine.
Some people have no real world experience and apparently don't know that 6010/6011 welds are brittle when compared to 6013/7014/7018's ductility which comes in real handy when using brute force to remove things 😊
There's a reason 6010/6011 root passes are covered with a more ductile welding electrode material. Some people apparently think the world revolves around pipe welding 😉
You're the man. You're one of the few mechanics calling themselves mechanics.
When you have the Knowledge and the ability to share it. Makes you a master craftsman. Showing us your little secrets make it even a great pleasure. Thank You so much.
Love watching a mechanic that knows his job inside out and works fast. Thumbs up !
The man making it easy and sharing his knowledge! Thank you for the entertainment and sharing da nuttiest way to get the job done!
Kudos to you, Eric, for showing us how to "Do the Impossible" while maintaining your sense of humor and keeping it family friendly! We should contact Rainman Ray to see if he can adjust the "Tool Gravity" in you area 🙂
while welding on deez nuts
I Stumbled upon your channel. I am impressed and horrified with the amount of rust you mechanics in the North East have to deal with. You guys are just Tough up there in the Rust Belt! Adapting, Improvising, and Overcoming! Carry On Sir!
And this isint even really rusted. Thats like standard everyday normal rust.
"An easy one"
Yes doing a show & tell helps much toward what mechanics do and the issues they must overcome on daily basis.
Yes, kudos for video presented and thank you.
For both vehicle owners' and more so for mechanics dedicated to quality works:
The issues are many, from design of mechanical assembly, how well it's made, redundancies for durability, serviceablilty, parts availability, mfgr/gov planned-obsolescence, costs of parts, etc. Then know-how, tools, equipment, critical thinking & creativity, patience to make reliable repairs / refurbishing works.
As to "Rust Belt" area 80% of contiguous USA and 90% of CAN achieve Rust Belt by "Official Political Policies & Practises" by govs' Towns, Cities, Counties, States/Provinces, applying Salts, NaCl, CaCl, MgCl, KcL, CMA, in Crystal forms, blends & brines, etc during each winter season. Millions of tonnes applied each winter.
They are all corrosive, deteriorate cars, trucks, roads, bridges, utilities, & all infrastructures causing hazards, perils, ruin, wastes, pollution, and massive costs/ debts plus interest / usury: aka Indentured servitude, serfdom, slavery.
Coupled with requiring replacement of cars, trucks, etc sooner/ faster and faster.
All under illusions of Salts assuring safety during travels.
If you like, learn more about road Salts. They have migrated/flowed and are in freshwater ponds, creeks, rivers, lakes, reservoirs, aquifers, and in drinking water.
If only a smattering of grease or Cooperslip was used while assembling at the factory, would save future humanity so much time...
@@okkromyep😊
Takes me back to the Subi dealership. Guys were actually super happy to get these (assuming they were cash and not warranty, which they were for the most part) because they paid so well and because of the method. We just took out the speed sensor, didn't even move the parking broke, and basically hooked up a big L-shaped piece of steel to two of the studs, then proceed to whack the everliving **** out of it with a sledge until it came off. It was a badge of honor as a new kid to get one of these off yourself and the whole shop would start teasing you/cheering you/jumping in if you had one that was really stuck. GRANTED, this was in New Jersey and not on the coast so I could see some being impossible through this means depending on the amount of rust.
Just did my daughter’s 2015 a week ago. Stumbled on this video by coincidence. I have all the tools at work, but had to do the job in my driveway (long story). Used a sledge hammer and PB Blaster. Hub came out. I’ve done many jobs like this, but this was my first Subaru. Wasn’t that bad. Maybe I got lucky.
Do you live in an area where they salt the roads often in winter?
Yes. NJ.
They salt here in the mountains of Asheville NC as well; I too was able to remove it with a small sledge fairly easily; one of the four bolts prior to that though was the problem area for me.
You make hard jobs look so easy. I miss older cars so much. Was so simple to work on.
Having done about 4 sets myself, 2 on my own STi, and 2 on Customer vehicles, I'm gonna have to work on trying this. I'm absolutely convinced that the rust holds those in there. The bolts are nothing more than place-setters or holding fixtures. The rust is what holds those in there.
I love this guy. He is so damn funny. He is also one hell of a great mechanic too. Thanks Eric O.
By far the worst rear wheel bearing that I ever did in my life! Just finished a 2014 Outback from Pennsylvania using your hack and still was hard to remove! Thanks for all your videos you have been a big help on more repairs than you'll ever know.
2014 Subaru Legacy. Home Mechanic. Rear hub removed on drivers' side. Will do Passenger side next weekend. Man was this stuck. Even my rotor wouldn't come off without a 2-pound persuasion tool. Tried 1/2-inch bolt and nuts twice. No go. Stepped up to 5/8 and finally broke loose. Hammer then jack it out. Did that several time and success. Tried heat, slide hammer, your way is Medieval but EFFECTIVE. Seen several videos of different ways to do this but yours was right up my alley. Yes, a welder is needed, and some good air tools, but I have those tools so no problem. My battery powered impact wouldn't touch it either. None of the videos I watched were going to work on my particular situation. 127,000 miles and corroded terribly. Was quoted just at $1000,00 dollars for replacing both rear hubs by a local shop. Not sure if they would have completed it successfully without a much higher bill. I will at about $500.00 with new rotors, hubs, and pads for both sides. Good video, great technique on using the KISS principle. Wish me luck on the passenger side. The "if you can't weld good, weld a lot technique will be used. Good job.
Just another demonstration of inventive thinking, and use of cheap materials to achieve a consistent result in adverse conditions. Eric, your thinking process is priceless, and thank you for sharing your experience and skill for all to learn from. Nothing wrong with your welding, it worked!
Most impressive wheel bearing hub removal I've seen. Another tool in my forever hate relationship with wheel bearing hub replacements. Thank you!!
Eric I wished you posted this 3 weeks ago. I spent 5 hours trying to break loose the bearing in my 2009 forester. I used the bolt forcing trick, air hammer and lots of beating.. ended up taking the knuckle out and placing it on boards and hammering it out. Once the knuckle was out it wasn’t too bad to hammer out.. if I would have taken the knuckle out right away it would have saved me 4 hours… thanks for this trick adding it to my bag of tricks for next time
I just got done pulling a rear wheel bearing on my 2018 Subaru. I'm in Michigan so it was plenty rusty. I bought some M-12 bolts and bolted the slide hammer to the front of the wheel bearing and smacked it out (after pulling the hub like you do in the video). I don't have a welder, so I had to make do. Took about 10 minutes of running the slide hammer to pull it out.
Now I'm watching the video again to figure out how to put together the parking break. Thanks for the great info. You saved me a bundle!
I did one once. Took the flange off with the slide hammer.. left the other part of the bearing stuck like the video.. Tried air chisel, didn't work. Did exactly what you did.. got some long M-12 bolts and used the slide hammer again. Came out in 5 hits. The rear bearing is now gone.. and I'm here looking for any different tricks.. (no welder here...). Live in Canada so lots of rust here.
Great video! I've had good success punching out a wheel stud and using the old bolt technique- but I weld the hub to the bearing case so it doesn't pull apart. Very similar
Another great job. I wish every mechanic was as professional, educated, and honest as you!!!! You amazingly make everything look easy!!!!
Diyer here ...I used the wheel hub removal tool where you attach remover to the hub then used a sledge hammer on it. Worked out in a few bonks. I pushed the CV axle on the second one and it came out in 2 hits. I'm in NYC where we got salt but this looked a lot worse than mine.
Funny to see the exhaust hanger broke off . Subarus seem to have same common failures
@@shahsmerdis I'm here in NNY near the Canadian border. I have been wrenching for over 40 years and have to agree that these little high mileage rusty Subarus just keep going. But that just makes them harder than hell to work on. I decided to buy one of those hub shockers from snappy and used it a few times with success after a while of torture to the tool. I had a Subaru rear wheel bearing that was almost impossible to get loose with that damn tool. Every one of the mechanics took turns, making a game out of it till they bent the tool and snapped the wheel studs. I ended up taking the knuckle out and using the old hydraulic press and a torch.
For these, I use a slide hammer to pop the outer bearing race off, same as in the video, then use the slide hammer with bolts running through two of the four bolt holes that normally attach the bearing to the knuckle. Before sliding, cook the bearing housing with a hot torch to discombobulate the corrosion. If you left the speed sensor in (I don't), don't cook it, heat the opposite half - and make damn sure the axle is free floating or you'll rip the sensor in two. Slide hammer is weighted with two gym weights (total 24 pounds). A few HARD pulls and she's out. Wear leather gloves - weights like to pinch...
Edited to add: If you're doing this in your driveway, support the knuckle with a jack until the suspension compresses somewhat; things won't bounce around so much when you use a slide hammer or hub tamer. Probably puts more force/shock into the corrosion.
That would be my plan if I were to do one without knowing anything about them
@Slicerwizard, that sounds sensible. Frankly, I think I'd rather just dispose of this vehicle.🤣Seriously I wouldn't be surprise if the factory repair manual calls for removing the axle from the transaxle assembly, remove the knuckle from the vehicle and place it on the bench to perform the separation there. That way they can overcharge the customer for hours and hours of labor that really isn't necessary. I was once charged ~9 hours for "diagnostics & repairs" for what was less than 2 hours worth of work. Funny enough "new management/ownership" took over shortly after & they're trying to "re-earn my business". If you can help it, stay away from "stealerships" folks.
What area are you in? Slider hammers are usually a joke no matter how its placed on the part; the force he applied here with that bolt may be a ton at least. I think my solution would be to shift the wheel bearing by hitting it on the side and then use the bolts like to mention to apply the force against them. I'm sure Eric has done that but from my experience, it is easier to shift than to pull put as these wheel bearings tend to form ribs that won't allow it to come out.
I bet the heat from the welding plays an important part in the success of this method. Combined with the jacking force from the bolt it’s a knockout 1-2 punch. Great video! Thanks!
When I use a slide hammer I wrap and twist a tie down strap around the weight , leave some slack and pull on the tie strap , I get better leverage and force with out shocking my elbow and wrist.
Thank you for everything you do and show us. I think anybody that comes here for your guidance and wisdom is truly thankful! 😊
Thanks for this. I knew I was in for a rough one doing this job tomorrow. I was ready to pull the whole knuckle off, but in the rust belt, the fewer fasteners you have to touch, the better. So I'm going to go straight for this method without trying anything else. Will report back to say how it goes.
Reporting back as promised. This method worked great. On the first side my welds started to fail and the bolt started going askew, but it was enough to break the rust union anyway.
I took what I learned from that near failure and on the otherside I preheated the bearing , welded two nuts as before, and used a broken bolt beneath them instead of a third nut. This time it came off like butter. Super easy. 110v flux core. Thanks South Main.
@@arealsourapple nice!
I generally use the Queen Mary and a chain to remove those Subaru bearings, but thanks to Eric O's ingenuity, I can do it the easy way!🤣 All kidding aside, GREAT JOB Eric and thanks!
STILL, one of the very best channels. He's the real Dominator. HUGE respect to Eric and family. :-)
I've seen this done so many ways and it never works out well but your way was absolutely the best, there was no trauma to the knuckle like I seen with other mechanics doing this.
I followed this just as shown, it went just like yours, initial pressure broke the front weld, I added more weld and turned the bolt and it started coming out. I would leave pressure on the bolt and smack the bearing housing with a 1 lb hammer and give the bolt a couple more turns. Smack turn smack turn, this was a little scary but it came out pretty straight forward. Big Thank You!
This is the same method grandpa c dub teached us youngsters growing up around the junkyard fixing all our own cars and trucks love it always remember the lessons from your elders! Love ya grandpa thank u !
Great tip, Eric O! I work at a Subaru dealership. We just replace the entire knuckle. I'm gonna try this trick and hopefully save my customers some money.
The new knuckle approach would be the fastest and cleanest is my opinion and least chance of a call back. I’m reading all the posts on the hammering and the bushings on the upper control and the trail arm will only take so much pounding . Thanks !
But with this method it drastically reduces the amount of vibration from the pounding on the bushings (However they are designed to take years of pothole punishment with a couple thousand pounds on top of them). And not all of my customers have the extra money to needlessly throw at the job, if it's not absolutely required, as well as the satisfaction that the mechanic gets knowing that he has just earned a satisfied customer that will be back for future repairs.
I noticed you placed the bolt opposite the speed sensor, excellent man you think of everything, most of the time. Another excellent labor saving video as usual!
As the official bearing aficionado of this channel, I love this bearing video. Thanks for bringing us along, Eric!
living in the PNW i dont have any rust issues, but this is a good tip to consider if i ever have to re do the rear bearings again. i was able to sucessfully use two of the mounting bolts to hammer out both sides of my rear bearings with ease. the hardest part on one side for me was getting the dang brake rotor off. i did not have access to air or an air hammer when i replaced it in my uncles garage the last time i did a rear bearing on my 09 outback.
been doing this trick for a couple of years and never fails!
Doing them in my garage at home without an air hammer, welder or torch in the rust belt i used a can of pb blaster, a 10 lbs sledge and about 2 hours of swinging at it for one hub to finally pop loose. Fun times.
Interesting approach. I do many of these Subarus. I bought the bar that bolts onto the hub face. I count the blows with the 8 lb sledge hammer and I have never exceeded 20. I was a bit surprised that the bearing came out of the backing plate with so little work. I usually have to resort to heat and hammering. I found out about the bar from a friend who is a Subaru service manager.
Hi, please can you put a link where to buy the bar, I'll like to have it handy in my arsenal incase I run into one, thanks in advance.
What bar!?
@Paopolomololl Hi, I was actually asking eldoradony the question since he's the one that mentioned the bar.
After thinking about it for a minute I think he was referring to the Hub Buster bar which I already have.
Tech like us and u are what this industry needs. Love your channel keep it up you are awesome
Man, I watch your videos and it is so relaxing. You know your stuff and nothing shakes your confidence.
DIYer here from Canada (Manitoba so we see alot of snow). Did this job a few years ago in my apartment parking lot with basic hand tools after watching you and a few others do it. A mechanic saw me struggling with it and suggested I use a chisel to wedge it between the hub and the back plate. Got it out after several hours and ended up mangling the back plate a bit but nothing a hammer couldn’t flatten out. Was the first “real” job I ever did on my car other than an oil change so it was definitely a struggle but I felt pretty damn good about myself when I took it on a test drive and stopped hearing that damn bearing roar.
I am really glad that I watched this after I changed mine on my Subaru. I was really lucky. I live in West Michigan also.
Thanks for your wisdom, Eric.
Yeah I get these almost weekly here in CT. No welder aloud at firestone but the sledge and air hammer always gets it done.
Is it just as difficult on a 2000 outback?
@stevemurray710 I would say the newer are harder to get out. If you end up having to remove the whole knuckle on that 2000 though be ready to fight those long knuckle bolts. Having a hub remover/installer like the astro 78825 will make quick work of the older ones.
@@RulethenightGaming I don't think the 2000-2004 has the long knuckle bolts so I might be lucky there.
Dear Eric - at 6:11 you mentioned my way. But said it doesn't work. I actually partially got this idea - from YOU. Because I've seen you use a very large Impact Hammer on the front - trying to get a Subaru Bearing off.
I live just outside of Seattle - so a LOT of stuff is readily available. For example - Tacoma Screw is just a couple of miles down the road. But hey - HD's and Lowe's are all over - and they also sell BOLTS.
So - this works like a charm.
FOUR - longer bolts of the same thread as the Bearing assembly. About 2" longer. Plus an air hammer socket adapter such as the 3715; or 37316;
Remove the 4 bolts holding the Bearing Hub in. Thread in your four LONGER same thread bolts into the Hub Assembly from the rear. Just so the threaded part of the bad bearing is filled. Install your Socket Adapter onto your Air Hammer. Put an impact socket onto the adapter. Air Hammer to the Rear - start driving out the Hub. Just alternate so you don't go cattywampus. Works. And easy peasy. No welding required.
You can also purchase the 8629 Universal Wheel Bearing Hub Removal Tool; and that works - but is more work than just the 4 longer bolts and the Air Hammer - which quickly make the Bearing Hub on any Subaru or other car - come out.
Great commentary , a skilled dude , sharing his knowledge freely. 👏 that's how it's done.
Clever trick my friend. And some of the best welding I've seen today.
Yup. The MIG welder is a most useful tool for enabling out-of-the box solutions like this. I’ve used mine for similar tasks on multiple occasions.
I used to use my mig until it got flood water over it threw it uot after that didn't want to run the risk of being welded to it myself LOL.
@@LesReeves That’s a shame that you had to throw it away. If it was submerged in fresh water there might have been a chance to clean it up, dry it out, and use it again. Of course MIG welders span a wide range of prices. There are some ridiculously cheap units sold at the big box stores and they might not be worthwhile trying to repair. But the commercial units like I have in my shop are probably worth taking in for service or even drying it out yourself if you or someone you know is comfortable with electronics.
If I still had a Subaru I would drive the hour and a half just to have your expertise do it and knowing how much joy you get from it
I'm 5 hours away, and contemplating driving out there for Eric to have him work on my Subaru!
He won’t work on your car. Doesn’t take new customers.
I’m only 36 hrs straight, I’ll just have to show my local mechanic the video, do it Eric’s way.
@@Paopolomolollhe doesn't take TH-cam customers
i will say this..those gloves your wear are AMAZING!! all that heat..no melt!
No kidding! I had on a cheap black set of I assume we're nitro maybe and struck a spot weld a few years back and one of those damn gloves went up in flames so damn fast that I almost needed new underwear. 😅
Refreshing to find someone that gets straight to the point with very good knowledge and proper advice. 👌
This is one DIY guy that will let you do it!! Great video!! Never seen you so excited to show your technique!!
Eric nice repair if I may suggest for the next one is "make a tool" that can be reused and only weld the facing nut of the back plate to the bearing hub. Make a collar welded to that nut you use which looked like grade 8, then use a bolt that goes thru collar nut tool to the flange thread. You got a great way and to have a pre made tool will make every job easier from that point. Savings is the point but you have the idea just tweak it to make it better. I just loved making tools working for MB repair and my tools helped the whole shop. I left some of them when I retired, very happy guys.
I did the rear wheel bearing on my 05 Legacy, and for some reason, I don't remember it being difficult. I live in the northeast so lots of rust. I think I just used a BFH and beat on the outer hub flange and used a little heat and of course, the WD40. Thanks for the videos, you are a very talented mechanic.
05 is different. These are the 13+
geez - i love the "the welding setting is NUCLEAR" very cool of you to share hard earned methods
"Do you wanna go to war, Balake ??!!??" Mr. Garvey is now a mechanic. Amazing.
@@gvlowe75 lol, now I have to search for the video!!! Hahaha
Those snap on needle nose pliers are awesome. Love mine. Those Subaru rear bearings are easier than the older explorers with independent rear suspension. No one changes them till they have baked onto the axles
I have just recently come across your videos 2 months ago. It is a joy to watch and thanks for sharing your experiences. Good to see you truly troubleshoot vehicles.
Here in Australia, we don't have too many issues with rust, unless the vehicle is a 4×4 driven on the beach, or cars that live near the ocean.
All we need to do is show the old bearing a Kangaroo or a Drop Bear and the bearing gets the F outta there all by itself🤣🤣🤣👍🇦🇺
I did one of mine a couple years ago, and it started out just like this video, to include the slide hammer and the front half of the hub falling off. Then I went through about 5 days of hammering, three cans of penetrating fluid, a whole can of map gas, several chewed up and broken bolts. I finally said "f*** it," took off the whole knuckle, and paid someone to get it out. Great video!
I noticed your braces or retainer I havent been watching as much recently as I have been the last year or so and I gotta say I think thats the greatest indicator of your success. dental work isnt cheap and when you're paying for, possibly, cosmetic work that really shows how far you have come. congratulations on your success on youtube and in your shop you deserve it!
Eric, you are sure a conscientious mechanic. I sure wish I lived close to you so you could do all my vehicle work. Keep it up!😊
I just did a 14 outback a few weeks ago. I left brake shoes on and I think I used the hammer the bolt method. Also I am in north western PA
Damn that was impressive. Never thought of doing that. Last time i did that for my wife’s car i just used a torch and hammer until it cracked loose. Took forever though. This is way cleaner, deff doing this next time 😁
Great video, Eric! I just finished replacing the rear hubs on a 2018 Crosstrek with very little rust, and it was still an absolute bear. Ended up knocking out a stud and using the bolt and nut technique (to anyone considering this: you’ll want a 4+” long fully threaded 1/2” bolt that is at least grade 5). Like in the video, only the outer half of the hub came off, with the inner part still fused to the backing plate and knuckle. So I threaded the four hub mounting bolts in about 3/4 the way, then pounded on each bolt head from the inside with a socket, extension and sledge hammer while shouting obscenities. When they finally cracked loose, a few hits from a sledge and cold chisel wedged between the knuckle and backing plate got them the rest of the way out. Had to file down a few spots on the mounting face of the knuckle where the chisel had buggered the metal a bit. It was not a fun job, but definitely learned a lot from it 🤙
Here's one more hug for you from Northern Ohio 🤗. Wish I'd tried this method first, but it seemed a little extreme so I tried about 5 or 6 other methods first and all I got was bloody, bruised and exhausted. finally tried this one and was immediately victorious (although I doubled it up and put one bolt on either side). 3 bucks worth of nuts and bolts from home depot was all it took. Thank You Thank You Thank You.
Those disposable welding gloves work a treat
I had the extreme fortune to do a set of rear bearings on a 2015 legacy. Im a shad tree mechanic and quite luckily the car only had about 80k in miles. It took me a total of 3 hours for both rear bearings and after watching numerous horrendous videos in the subject i was really surprised how lucky i got. Now all i have to do is replace them about every 5 years to make sure i dont have a nightmare scenario. Have a great day folks.
You should have checked for warranty. I’ve sent a few to the dealer and so far so good for the customer. It’s a quiet Warranty, not a recall and dealer might fight you on it but google it. Not all Subarus but worth the look to anyone watching that hasn’t done the job already. Shop may lose the work but gained more trust and thanks from customers
Spray them to protect from rust to make it easier in the future
Great job I’ve been a mechanic for years I have welders. I have torches enjoy watching your video. You’re awesome.👍
After trying this and many other techniques I finally pulled the knuckle off the car. Then the slick trick is to put a heavy bead of weld INSIDE the rear portion of the bearing, let it cool and then the thing pops right out. The heavy held shrinks as it cools and pulls the rest in the thing inward. I couldn't believe how well that work. Hat tip to my farmer friend Frank for demonstrating this bit of magic.
Love your channel and "can do" attitude! Also your willingness to share your shop adventures. Besides the welder one very useful tool for jobs like this is a butchered C-clamp. Preferably a good forged one with rugged square threads. Cut it off in the middle of the C and grease the threads so weld spatter doesn't stick to the threads. Weld it on to the housing surface on the side toward the thread. Tighten against the backing plate and if you have to hit the back of the thread with the air hammer. Once done back it off and snap it over toward the weld. Have used this many times to hold crap tight or move it. Works as a temporary fixture.
Google welding dog on TH-cam and there's a video on how to make one easily out of scrap steel plate and a nut & bolt
@@cyrusmoser1090 you are correct, a welding dog is a handy tool. I prefer the C-clamp for one because the one I use has a square thread, can be tightened without a wrench, is of quality forged steel and can be used over and over. Just snap it forward with it backed off - you may not get enough throw and leverage to back break the weld with a nut and plate.
Eric
you are a legend!
keep being awesome!
Glad to see I’m not the only one that has trouble with anti-rattle springs !
Neat welding trick! You can also weld yourself a custom slide hammer adaptor from old wheel studs. Those wheel bearing bolts are the same pitch as the wheel studs. The bearing accepts the stud from the wrong side and you can just whack it out! No need to dissasemble the parking brake shoes. Here in north those subies rust a lot and haven't yet lost to a single bearing with this trick. You need a hefty slide hammer though.
he said, using the wheel bearing threads to push or pull the bearing out will just push or pull the threads out also, which is why he did this trick/method. Did you not catch the bit where Eric said he's tried everything there is and only this works. Well, this works without fucking up any threads or without taking several hours. You'd probably need a slide hammer about 4x bigger than the one he used to take the hub face out. Which I imagine is not cheap and rather expensive. Again, he mentioned a puller that's been made for this exact job and how it takes a long time to set up and costs about $900 which isn't worth the time, or money when this method took less than 30 minutes.
@@jonnywilson9117 It has worked with me though. No need to be upset dude.
@@mrtickles5982 Oh, I'm not upset. You made a suggestion, you could've said "this is what I've done, specifically on these wheel bearings) Then I honestly wouldn't have said anything as you were basically just making a suggestion that he said he's already done.
Did you do it on one of these wheel bearings? Or a different car?
@@jonnywilson9117 I've used this method and has worked with me on several legacys, outbacks, imprezas, XVs and foresters. Just giving my 2 cents here.
@@jonnywilson9117The video literally ends with Eric O asking how we’ve managed to get them out.
Mr. Eric, love your videos and you're an amazing mechanic! I've learned lots from you. Hopefully I can return the favour. I'm in Canada so maybe geographical we deal with different challenges but I've been working on subaru for 15 years now and done dozens of these bearings. I've tried every trick too and I've got it down to a science now!!
Here's what you do .... get your big air hammer with a long chisel bit and you take it from the back sides of the backing plate and wedge it between the hub and the backing plate. If you get it in just the right spot you can wedge the whole backing plate and bearing away from the hub if you work it in like a wedge slowly from either side. I've done it many times now. Never broken an ABS sensor never taken the ebrake shoes off. The backing plate will separate from the hub attached to the cable still and then you just have to use a small sledge and beat the bearing out of the backing plate from the back side. Out of all the methods I've ever tried this is the only way I have success every time. Sometimes you squish the metal on the hub a little bit but I just smooth it out after with a roloc disc on my die grinder!! Give it a shot next time and keep up the videos I could watch you work all day! Love the honest humble approach 👌
Great technique and excellent video.
I have absolutely no need to change a wheel bearing on a Subaru or on any car for that matter, yet I watched the entire video and found it very therapeutic, so thanks for posting it. AI must have reached a new level of intelligence - the TH-cam algorithm seems to have correctly anticipated what I needed. 😊