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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
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MY THOUGHTS:
If you've heard of the Join65 before in the keeb world, then meet it's "upgraded" sibling the Choice65. It not only has a pretty weight on the bottom without the ugly text, but they've change it to be a mounting style similar to the Simpler keyboard where it uses the foam in between the plate and PCB as it's mounting gasket. This creates a rather limiting experience but still a pleasent sounding board with a comfy typing experience. If this was priced anywhere above 200 dollars, I would suggest other options, but it's not. It's priced at $120 USD and for that reason alone this may be EXACTLY what some people are looking for if you're a fan of that marbly foamy sound.
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They are called KTT Iwaicha switches! I have a batch from last year but couldn't get any more after because the seller told me they stopped restocking. I absolutely love them. Good to know they are back!
Someone in his chat while he's streaming this said that too
love the coice
SAME BRO
jelous of new comers to the hobby wish i hd some of theese budget/entry boards when i first started i was ouit here with a id67
Agreed! First board was the id80, so many great options now
So that silicone that goes on top of the plate is actually the top gasket for the keyboard. It is intended to be built with and not using it makes the assembly rattle around a bit in the case.
I believe as long as you use the poron foam layer/gasket that goes underneath the plate it shouldn't rattle around, but I'm not entirely sure. From the teardowns and assemblies, I've seen the bottom foam protrudes past the plate/PCB assembly and it what fits into the CNC grooves in the bottom half of the case. The top gasket I think also extends past the plate/PCB and fills the gap in the top half of the case. If you don't include both pieces of foam, then the plate/PCB isn't held in at all and will just flop around. If you include at least 1 of the pieces, it should prevent the assembly from shifting in the x and y axis. However, with only 1 piece of the foam gasket, I guess it's likely that this would leave a gap between the top and bottom halves of the case leading to the plate/PCB assembly free to move along the Z axis. This could probably cause unintended "bounce" and ultimately noise.
FYI, the Join65 said that the silicone on top of the plate was "optional" but the foam between the plate and PCB was NOT optional as it provides the mounting mechanism.
This is why I really wish these "content creators" (youtube, livestream, reviewers, whatever) would follow the instructions and build the keyboards AS DESIGNED! If they want to alter it after the fact that is fine, but it should always be built as designed at least to start. Even if it's not their preference. Don't assume you know better than the people that designed it, I guess. There is an actual reason they used this mount style instead of the typical poron foam strips or silicon socks. They believe it provides a more consistent feel across the entirety of the board, and that idea conceptually has merit. It provides a mounting point around the ENTIRETY of the PCB/plate similar to an o-ring mount. This is certainly something that you can FEEL if you've ever typed on a traditional gasket mount so I'm open to new ideas. Remember people how a keyboard FEELS is sort of important to a keyboard. Not just sound.
Also, while it might be more difficult, I think you could alter this to be a more traditional poron gasket mount. You'd have to cut up the foam or get some wider poron strips so that it is attach to the plate but extend out enough past it to fit in the provided grooves. Probably not worthwhile but possible.
EDIT: FYI, according to the geekhack thread the top gasket is a 2mm poron pad, not silicone like the Join65 was.
@@JustSomeGuy009 woah, what a long-ass bulsh*t, can't believe you wrote that long useless pov
forest green looks hot
buying it rn
FYI, the green and blue aren't 2 tone. I was drawn in by the green and sort of wish they had a similar 2 ton up the front/back as well.
You’ll probably fix this already by the time ya see this but this is titled Coice65 not Choice. Hahahah. Love your work btw broski 😊
My bad! FIXED
@@alexotos no worries! Just want ya to get that algorithm bump because your content is fire 🔥
What are the keycaps on the mode Envoy at the beginning
Keykobo Retro Mixed Lights?
title typo mr toes hehe
Can anyone point me towards the clear twisted cable that Alex has?
Never seen any custom cable maker offer that and really want one now ahaha
Looks like a custom lindy LEMO cable from Space Cables
That’s nice though.
what keyboard is that cream one above
Mode envoy alexotos edition
Looks great, but doesn't support ISO so no thanks.
delicious
after trying the choice 65, what do you prefer the mode envoy or the choice 65 ?
The envoy is obviously going to be better unless you really love the thocky/marble sound of the choice because it costs 100 more and is from a better manufacturer
cycle 7
Would you recommend this better that the cycle7? if you guys have any other recommendations for 65% keebs you tell me
Cycle7 is a very different keyboard. Different layout (IMO undesirable), more customizable color options, option for tri-mode PCB (although wireless doesn't support VIA), different mounting options. I would say if you like the aesthetics and layout of the Cycle7 then it offers more. Just take note of final total cost after shipping for whatever you are looking to buy. When shipping and taxes are accounted for you might find that you could buy something else you really want or of higher quality instead because you aren't dropping an extra $50+ (1/3 the total cost) on shipping fees. Personally, I just don't like the aesthetics or layout of the Cycle7 so I can't justify the final cost of close to $220 on it.
2 notable other boards coming in the near term off the top of my head;
Neo65 - 65% being released by Qwertkeys, supposedly in August. O-ring and/or gasket mount. Looks like they will have a wireless option (battery compartments).
MKC75 -75% being released by MyKeyClub. Preorder pages went up, but I think they're showing sold out and orders aren't being taken until August. Tons of options for case color, weight, plate, and wired/wireless PCB. Price is really good.
I know there are 1 or 2 others that I'm just forgetting right now. There are always the other common ones that you MIGHT find available but not likely (Zoom65/75, QK65/75, JRIS65/75, etc).
One thing to note about the Choice65 is that this is far more of a "preorder" than a group buy. It's already in production and CNC work has been done. Once the preorder is over shipping will happen within 15 days. Most other boards will take many months before they even ship. If they had offered a tri-mode PCB for this, I think I'd have bought it. I like at least 2, maybe 3, color options and overall think it's aesthetically pleasing and the cost is decent.
Personally, I don't mind the mounting method. It's essentially a poron gasket mount but integrated into the plate foam layer. The REASON they do this is they think it makes for a more CONSISTENT feel and typing experience vs only having a small strip of gasket material around the borders of the plate/PCB like other keyboards do. That idea has merit IMO. Also, while it might seem like you simply couldn't build this without that entire poron foam sheet/gasket and that might be limiting, you COULD cut the gasket up or otherwise attach a gasket material to the edges of the PCB/plate that extend past it so that you have a more "traditional" gasket mount. Certainly, would be more difficult than boards designed for that but from what I've seen it would be entirely possible to do.
I will also recommend something that isn't entirely "custom" but IMO really good. The CIDOO v65 v2 and CIDOO v75 (sold as a few other names as well). You can buy these from CIDOO directly, on Amazon, AliExpress, and Epomaker. They are very affordable, I bought my v65 v2 for a hundred as a fully built keyboard and the included switches and keycaps are actually really nice as well so IMO it's a steal. Full CNC aluminum case, wireless (v65 has bluetooth, v75 has 2.4 and bluetooth), gasket mount, south facing RGB, VIA compatible, knob, comes with all the typical foams, PC plate. IMO it's the best sounding and feeling keyboard I've used right out of the box. It's extremely well built and heavy. It does 95% of what I'd get out of a custom board. Biggest downsides are limited plate options (there is a FR4 plate out there from the original Finalkey v65 release), limited case colors (beige and white, I like white), poron gasket mount the only option (lots of customs offer at least 2 mount options like silicon socks, tadpoles, top mount, etc), and finally no full QMK support (meaning they don't make the firmware available for download, they flash firmware to the board before shipping and only make the JSON available for VIA support).
@@JustSomeGuy009 thanks for all the information I’ll make my decision off of this thanks agian
@@JustSomeGuy009 Excellent write up
Box stem KTT switches... sign me up! With double stage spring extended spring please!
May I ask for the keycaps of the other keyboard?
KEYKOBO Retro Mixed Lights :)
@@시계는와치-d2e thx... Sorry my enghish i italian follower 😁😁
@@시계는와치-d2e Order executed thx 😁😁
u werent lying 😭the cable is very short
Anyone know what the keycaps on the other board on his desk are called?
Retro mixed lights
This or Cycle7?
cycle7
what iems do you use?
I believe he uses Emerald Sea Campfire Audio Andromedas
@@alex3012cNo, he just uses normal campfire andromedas. I don’t know if its the 2019 or 2020 though.
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