Thank you so much for testing this! I'm not buying anything these days without checking out what especially you and some other creators have to say about it. Getting definitely suspicious when a company won't (or really late) send out review units. The sound tests they did all sounded mediocre at best. I would have loved to see, how this sounds with Alu bottom and plate. Thank you so much again for you work!
It sounds great, the spacebar is very sharp and clean and the alphas have enough punch to fit in with the spacebar and sound relatively balanced across the board. HG sides look classy, nice design overall, but I gotta say, Monokei must be smoking some serious product if they have the gall to offer a $300AUD copper top addon, which really has no positive impact on acoustics to speak of, but no copper bottom, which IS proven to have a positive impact on acoustics. If they just wanted a copper colour, they could've just done a faux copper ano and it would've been much more sensible
It feels wierd that they wont reply to customer concerns and wont send out more reviews until its too late, this feel like a money grab by using the kohaku backplate to entice people who did not win the raffle.
Beautiful with this copper top case cover and the screwless magnetic design looks amazing, so easy and safe to swap anything. I think it's the first one which actually surprises me.
VERY SUS of monokei sending same exact config they already shown. They deliberately scheduled the gb where reviewers only get to build and only use it for 1-2days before gb closes. They also chose to only send very specific materials and plates which left alex no choice but to build it with same exact config they already shown, sus again. They chose to ignore buyers request of a full alu build/sound test throughout the gb period with little to non indepth reviews from ytbers. Very sus. For this price, buyers need to fully see the sound capability of the kei with every available configuration. As much as I want to cop one. These consecutive poor choices of monokei deliberately avoiding to give consumers proper review/ requested soundtest config of kei from respected streamers, is very frustrating and begs to question their integrity. This is just very SUS and a hard pass for this manufacturer.
Ive actually already voiced this to them as well, Im glad I got to look at it at ALL and see what it sounded like without the silicone insert. I dont think it's SUS personally, I think it was just pretty bad planning from their marketing department and clearly it's a fumble to anyone who wanted to see different configs. It most likely costed them some sales.
@@alexotos hey alex we appreciate you featuring it, given you got it so late, you still squeezed it in your stream sched to show berore gb closes. I’m just so frustrated as I’m so hyped with this board and waited so long for a simple sound test and it’s not just me or few people.. there’s actually a lot of us who waited and just wanted a simple classic build for a soundtest. It’s not a cheap board for someone like me so I want to know what I’m actually getting if that makes sense. I’m just really frustrated they cant provide even just a simple “yt shorts” sound test given how many people asking for it in comment sections of previous kei v2 vids they posted.
Kei v2 makes note of how they are partially building this in honor of the Kohaku. You can buy the Kohaku backplate for the Kei. So I think will all of that said, Id really~ be interested in hearing what you think about this board compared to the PC Kohaku.
@@ChiefBrianIrons Speaking of raffles I really hate that system. The chances I get a high-end board via fcfs is way higher than winning a raffle. That's my experience at least.
No WKL option, no polished SS bottom option because "probably won't hit MOQ" but they're fine with running a solid copper top piece as an option? Is that really more likely to hit MOQ than WKL? Why are they so stubborn??? It's not like it's an in stock sale, they don't start production until they've taken our money anyway so why wouldn't they just have those options available to actually gauge demand? How would a solid copper top sell more than WKL tops? Makes no sense to me
They said in past experience there not enough demand for it making not worth while to make a WKL. Fully understand that its all about supply and demand
Please let me know what those coffee themed keycaps in the first build were called. Didn't here the name of them anywhere in the video and those looked amazing. Kind of looked like GMK Tiramisu and kind of didn't. Great video as always Alex!
neo65 on qwertykeys; zoom65 and wind sin65 on cannonkeys are currently available for groupbuy. there's a keyboard youtuber named kirin that i came across a couple months ago that posts bi-weekly updates on upcoming, current, and ending gbs on keycaps and boards.
inks are so weird to tune. they need to be lubed but not overlubed, as minimal as you can. and even then they need to be broken in afterwards. those inks sounded like ass
I would go for both. I'm getting the copper build though and nixing more of the expensive copper options on my original Tempo plan to have it even out financially.
its more like alot of people wont get copper plate because its a extra plate and is the most expensive same with the copper top, he just wanted to review a more "realistic" config of the board :D
@@martintheiner5779 Unless I am misunderstanding something he says in video description "They sent me one of the most expensive configs out there and honestly one that *I was not expecting much out of because the plate being copper*."
I dont like copper plays well with a lot of switches and it's super pricey. ALU, FR4 and PC are the safest choices for a wider variety of switches in most cases.
@@alexotos I like copper because its heavier and beautiful. You can even see the orange between the keys when its on a plate. I haven't noticed (in my limited experience) much difference in terms of sounds between alu and copper, my understanding is that they are very similar material wise. I also find that not many designers offer copper plates so despite the cost I think twice given how rare it is. It's cool they sent the copper for a change, alu is too generic.
i’m not sure any hhkb versions of these keebs exist. But your best best is a 60XT with the f row on the left side of keeb. Keep in mind 60XT keyboards are usually smaller run group buys and will be pretty pricey
that would be nice...but I think that would be another new named layout, I mean we all knew how original hhkb layout looks like, and if has F-row then it won't be a hhkb
I know Alexotos is running a relaxed and chill stream and mentality and overall it is very enjoyable but his unpreparedness keeps coming up. He tends to not know about (important) features or material choices of the board he reviews, keeps stating wrong prices etc*. I am not sure if this is partially the manufacturers fault for not providing these information to Alexotos but I feel the production quality would feel noticably higher if those things were adressed correctly. Please find a way to be given proper instructions about a board and prepare better for the live sessions. *These errors usually are adressed in post production via text on screen or later because chat corrects Alexotos but it's still lowering the perceived performance and quality of the video.
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Thank you so much for testing this! I'm not buying anything these days without checking out what especially you and some other creators have to say about it. Getting definitely suspicious when a company won't (or really late) send out review units. The sound tests they did all sounded mediocre at best. I would have loved to see, how this sounds with Alu bottom and plate. Thank you so much again for you work!
It sounds great, the spacebar is very sharp and clean and the alphas have enough punch to fit in with the spacebar and sound relatively balanced across the board. HG sides look classy, nice design overall, but I gotta say, Monokei must be smoking some serious product if they have the gall to offer a $300AUD copper top addon, which really has no positive impact on acoustics to speak of, but no copper bottom, which IS proven to have a positive impact on acoustics. If they just wanted a copper colour, they could've just done a faux copper ano and it would've been much more sensible
It feels wierd that they wont reply to customer concerns and wont send out more reviews until its too late, this feel like a money grab by using the kohaku backplate to entice people who did not win the raffle.
it is, considering the kohaku GB raffle ended shortly after
Relax they're planning to release new tops and bottoms so you can wait for R2 if you not convinced
@@ChiefBrianIrons Is it R2 for Kei v2 or Kohaku?
@@valorforall kei V2, you won't see PC kohaku GB for long time. While kei V2 will be a regular stock board with new tops and bottoms released
@@ChiefBrianIrons I see, thanks for the reply. Guess I'll wait for the new tops and bottoms
Beautiful with this copper top case cover and the screwless magnetic design looks amazing, so easy and safe to swap anything. I think it's the first one which actually surprises me.
Copper top is steep, but the Mode Sonnit with copper bottom also gets into a similar price range.
VERY SUS of monokei sending same exact config they already shown. They deliberately scheduled the gb where reviewers only get to build and only use it for 1-2days before gb closes. They also chose to only send very specific materials and plates which left alex no choice but to build it with same exact config they already shown, sus again.
They chose to ignore buyers request of a full alu build/sound test throughout the gb period with little to non indepth reviews from ytbers. Very sus. For this price, buyers need to fully see the sound capability of the kei with every available configuration.
As much as I want to cop one. These consecutive poor choices of monokei deliberately avoiding to give consumers proper review/ requested soundtest config of kei from respected streamers, is very frustrating and begs to question their integrity. This is just very SUS and a hard pass for this manufacturer.
Ive actually already voiced this to them as well, Im glad I got to look at it at ALL and see what it sounded like without the silicone insert.
I dont think it's SUS personally, I think it was just pretty bad planning from their marketing department and clearly it's a fumble to anyone who wanted to see different configs. It most likely costed them some sales.
@@alexotos hey alex we appreciate you featuring it, given you got it so late, you still squeezed it in your stream sched to show berore gb closes.
I’m just so frustrated as I’m so hyped with this board and waited so long for a simple sound test and it’s not just me or few people.. there’s actually a lot of us who waited and just wanted a simple classic build for a soundtest.
It’s not a cheap board for someone like me so I want to know what I’m actually getting if that makes sense. I’m just really frustrated they cant provide even just a simple “yt shorts” sound test given how many people asking for it in comment sections of previous kei v2 vids they posted.
I remember when wireless used to be looked down on in the community. Happy to see that is changing.
Like wise, it's a nice change
LMFAO your reaction to re-building the board with the Nixies 😅. A wise choice, gawd the board actually sounds like something now!
Do you suggests some switch for space bar only ? do you have any recommanded list for space bar only ?
Kei v2 makes note of how they are partially building this in honor of the Kohaku. You can buy the Kohaku backplate for the Kei. So I think will all of that said, Id really~ be interested in hearing what you think about this board compared to the PC Kohaku.
fun fact, copper kei with kohaku backplate might be more expensive than an actual kohaku lmao
Don't compare PC kohaku with this board no where near the same level. Still crying that I didn't win the lottery for the kohaku
@@kenguru_kbdyou don't often get an entire top case made of copper
LOL HI KEN @@kenguru_kbd
@@ChiefBrianIrons Speaking of raffles I really hate that system. The chances I get a high-end board via fcfs is way higher than winning a raffle. That's my experience at least.
Why doesn't any of the nice boards come with ISO hot-swap...
No WKL option, no polished SS bottom option because "probably won't hit MOQ" but they're fine with running a solid copper top piece as an option? Is that really more likely to hit MOQ than WKL? Why are they so stubborn???
It's not like it's an in stock sale, they don't start production until they've taken our money anyway so why wouldn't they just have those options available to actually gauge demand? How would a solid copper top sell more than WKL tops? Makes no sense to me
They said in past experience there not enough demand for it making not worth while to make a WKL. Fully understand that its all about supply and demand
Sounds nice. I’m gettin’ this one with the copper plate and some long stem switches.
It’s just ridiculous for an hhkb keyboard to not support split backspace… Do they even know anything about hhkb layout at all?
would long pole or normal ones be better for the kei?
Where did you get that mini deskmat? Gorgeous and cute.
alex would you go for the alu plate or pc plate in your preferred config?
Thanks for the video. I have a quick question, which one would you recommend, Kei V2 or Tempo?
:b kei if i have to choose but v1
@@SonnTypes21 why v1?
A bit heavier 😂 i like the hefty side
Is this the new nixie switches or the old ones? Please let me know asap
Does anyone know where his green kbd mat is from? That looks awesome
keebmat
@@toh787 Do you happen to know the White Keycaps showcased at the end of the video on the Kei V2? For the life of me I can't figure it out!
this should be the standard for assembly tbh. i do think a different config would do this more justice though
i love you alex
I love you too
Please let me know what those coffee themed keycaps in the first build were called. Didn't here the name of them anywhere in the video and those looked amazing. Kind of looked like GMK Tiramisu and kind of didn't. Great video as always Alex!
GMK sloth
@@sh0ebox21 thank you:)
Is there a video of the other grey keyboard in the video?
I think it's this one: th-cam.com/video/YRiVFVc2dRI/w-d-xo.html
Hey What are the keycaps on the board at the top in the beginning of this? They look sharp!
gmk dualshot
no
Yea they are the Dualshot 2's. I think it would have looked nice on this board.
I just got an f2-84 brand new in box from keebsforall with switches for like $400 shipped. best deal of my life.
Anyone know any 65% keyboards that are coming up on group buy?
neo65 on qwertykeys; zoom65 and wind sin65 on cannonkeys are currently available for groupbuy. there's a keyboard youtuber named kirin that i came across a couple months ago that posts bi-weekly updates on upcoming, current, and ending gbs on keycaps and boards.
There’s the Loki 65 rerun, this keyboard has a 65 version as well. You can never go wrong with a mode envoy either
@@ygosoccer thank you the Loki 65 is exactly what I was looking for in terms of shape and design, tho I wish there was a light blue color way.
what is that silver usb c cable you are using?
If I’m not mistaken, they’re from Lindy Cables.
thanks! @@g_uioliveira
lindy x lemo cable
inks are so weird to tune. they need to be lubed but not overlubed, as minimal as you can. and even then they need to be broken in afterwards. those inks sounded like ass
This or mode tempo Alex, great review by the way
I would go for both. I'm getting the copper build though and nixing more of the expensive copper options on my original Tempo plan to have it even out financially.
@@furnitureandbedding776going for both? Why would someone get 2 separate overpriced HHKBs?
@@DvineDragoonbecause some ppl in this community are just rich af as it seems lmao
@iflowlee yeah lmao how out of touch is that
@@DvineDragoon the original HHKB keyboard are expensive and that's just all plastic.
what is the point of a keyboard review when it's a very early prototype?
Whats wrong with copper plate?
its more like alot of people wont get copper plate because its a extra plate and is the most expensive same with the copper top, he just wanted to review a more "realistic" config of the board :D
@@martintheiner5779 Unless I am misunderstanding something he says in video description "They sent me one of the most expensive configs out there and honestly one that *I was not expecting much out of because the plate being copper*."
he also mentioned copper isnt his favourite plate material in the stream @@shynnsup8383
I dont like copper plays well with a lot of switches and it's super pricey. ALU, FR4 and PC are the safest choices for a wider variety of switches in most cases.
@@alexotos I like copper because its heavier and beautiful. You can even see the orange between the keys when its on a plate. I haven't noticed (in my limited experience) much difference in terms of sounds between alu and copper, my understanding is that they are very similar material wise. I also find that not many designers offer copper plates so despite the cost I think twice given how rare it is. It's cool they sent the copper for a change, alu is too generic.
That spacebar sounds really flat like a tray mount tofu.
sup Alex !
sound this standard not specialy but keyboard interesting more config
Bruh, I just desperately want an HHKB but with f key option. Like so many programmers play games that use f keys, why doesn't this exist
i can’t believe i haven’t thought of this. would rock
@@hrolvnir right? Like RuneScape and league of legends are so much harder without f keys :(
U can check out the MK72 from MIKIT. It's a Gameboy inspired prebult HHKB with the F row.
i’m not sure any hhkb versions of these keebs exist. But your best best is a 60XT with the f row on the left side of keeb. Keep in mind 60XT keyboards are usually smaller run group buys and will be pretty pricey
that would be nice...but I think that would be another new named layout, I mean we all knew how original hhkb layout looks like, and if has F-row then it won't be a hhkb
lol this sounds awful. wish you tried the other plates
besides the magnetic assembly, its kinda meh tbh
I didnt receieve any other plate other than the copper. And i thought with the right switches it sounded good! The inks were an awful combo imo
@@maniee8995 this supports bluetooth and can use electrocapacitive switches; this is unique among custom keyboards
I know Alexotos is running a relaxed and chill stream and mentality and overall it is very enjoyable but his unpreparedness keeps coming up. He tends to not know about (important) features or material choices of the board he reviews, keeps stating wrong prices etc*. I am not sure if this is partially the manufacturers fault for not providing these information to Alexotos but I feel the production quality would feel noticably higher if those things were adressed correctly.
Please find a way to be given proper instructions about a board and prepare better for the live sessions.
*These errors usually are adressed in post production via text on screen or later because chat corrects Alexotos but it's still lowering the perceived performance and quality of the video.