Battle Of The $100ish Custom Keyboards... And The Winner Is?!
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- #keybored Battle Of The $100ish Keyboards... And The Winner Is?!
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So... nowadays, you don't have to spend an arm and leg to get a good keyboard... infact, a $100 keyboard is sooo good that it makes you wonder if you have to spend anymore than that for a legit custom. Today, we're gathering 4 amazing new keyboards to see which one of these is the king of the $100ish category! Let's check it out!
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Choice65 by Velocifire
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Haimu Raw Linears (Shown in NEO65)
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Mito Keysterine Keycaps (Shown on Cycle7)
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As much as I like your individual reviews, I do really like the comparison ones, it really helps put into perspective the different keyboards, especially for those of us looking at these keyboards and trying to better figure out what we want to invest in! I'm not about to have 20 keyboards, lol, have to be selective and when individual reviews tend to be very hype hype hype, it gets hard to understand what makes one different from another~! So thank you for this review! Is very helpful!
The Neo65 should get WAY more points simply for being the only keyboard here that supports VIA with the tri-mode PCB. That alone makes it 100x better.
Thanks a lot for this video. We see lots of isolated reviews on specific recent boards but aggregating everything into a top for 1 usage / budget is VERY useful. I was in the process of merging info for a new board I'm looking into, so this video is both on point and on time for me!
Thank you so much! I'm glad it's of help, and I'll plan on doing more of these in the future as well!
REAL ONES KNOW ITS A REPOST
The original post got corrupt... ended at 1:50. The video supposed to be 20 min long haha
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YES
yes lol
@@Keyboredi thought the 1:50 vid was just a teaser or something
Sound test time stamps for my and your convenience
Choice65 - 8:30
MKC75 - 11:36
Neo65 - 15:07
Cycle7 - 18:35
Thanks for the help!
Think Keybored is the first YTer to test the Neo!
This is the exact video I needed xD
Thank you for this
@@MrBeeastFan Idk why Keybored hasn't pinned it
Thanks!
I really like your videos, but watching them a bit later puts me in a strange position. Honestly, I'm sick of all these group buys already as a newbie in this hobby. Whenever I like a keyboard from your video it seems to be not available anymore (sold out).
IMO i think the haimu raw's sound is pretty mild it self! Maybe you should try different switches on the neo65 to get a different result?
Exactly. He states he used these switches as if he thought they were a good choice if looking for a pronounced sound. But everything I've ever seen says they are muted sooo why the surprise? Doing sound tests where literally every factor is different just seems dumb at best and disingenuous at worst.
Press F to pay respects for the lost history of keybored's 1.50 mins video :O *Press F*
hahaha... yes, the first one went boom
I would've pre-ordered the cycle7 IMMEDIATELY if it wasn't for the $40 SHIPPING FEE......
I feel shipping costs (or at least an average) should really be factored into discussions on pricing. Also, the only Neo65 that goes for 80 (before shipping) is soldered and plateless, and I have a feeling that will be one of the least popular options.
@@GlitteratiLobotomy808very true. Although even with options the neo65 is probably going to be a 120 or less board plus shipping. There's not much that actually ships under $150 in the custom space it seems. The cycle7 is easily a $200-220 board shipped in the US.
Still makes it a great sub 200$ board.
@@Th0rNe true, but the main attraction of this board is, especially on youtube, that it's a sub $150 board. Would've been more understandable if it's around $20, or max $25 to the US like the zoom75.
@@noddy5 40-80€ unfortunately is the regular shippingrate to ship from US to Europe. 40 is actually a good price considering it's a keeb. I've had keysets that cost that much.
Don't ever think about Pre-pandemic shipping rates, they won't come back.
Do you have the alu plate for the Neo65? Would love to know how it sounds with an alu plate!
Also for science you should have kept as many variables the same as possible between the boards: same switches, same plate material, same keycap set etc.. but nonetheless interesting video!
yes, please an alu plate build
Honestly QK's quality/price ratio is extremely hard to beat. I've been rocking the QK75 since its release and every time I put my hands on it it's always a pleasure. I have it in mint with long pole tactiles and osume mochi mint caps and it not only sounds and feels amazing, it looks great. Honestly they're probably my go-to company for anyone that wants a bit more hands-on and premium experience from a keyboard without breaking bank.
The only problem I have seen is that all the boards I have seen in reviews have their weight either scratched or damaged in someway.
@@luckykari9448 mine came in spotless and still is months later
I like the concept of this video, but I don't quite agree with how the ranking/scoring system was implemented. I think it would be better to give them each an independent score because sometimes the gap between X and Y keyboard can be really tiny in one aspect, and huge in another. Making each delta always equal to 1 removes a lot of the nuance (and also, doesn't allow for ties)
If you gave every board some arbitrary score out of 5 (which you could still isolate to the boards, switches etc. being compared where your favorite was 5 and the worst was 0 or 1, there would be a lot more room for comparisons in a hobby whose foundation is built on preference and small differences
i now really want that neo65 ;-;
Even if you like one of these more than the other, you have to admit that boards in this price range are significant improvements than boards in this price range in the past.
We were amazed at the QK65 for what it brought for the price, same with the Frog TKL, and now, we're seeing real competition with the Neos and Cycles of the world. All for affordable kits! Thanks for the vid as always, Scott.
A few years ago when I bought my first non-prebuilt board I had sub 100 dollar budget and it seemed like the only two options for a full hotswap board were a GMMK or a GK61, so the idea of a full metal 65% with a weight for 80 dollars just shows how much the hobby has innovated in a couple of years.
It's so wild! I can't believe the the NEO65 can be had at the same pricepoint as a GK61...
@@Keyboredcan't forget about the XinMeng A66 or M71!!
The different switches and keycaps do affect the typing sound, but honestly, I really dig the sound of Choice65. It reminds me of some of my other keyboards that cost over $200. Plus, they seem to ship it out just 15 days after the group buy ends, which is pretty awesome for an in-stock sale!
not to mention all of them have foam, ot ideal for comparing sound.
i love the timing of this video esp considering these are entering or are in pre order! i also hellaaa enjoy this comparison bc it really hits so many details abt one board that might otherwise be too short a video for just an individual board on its own! i would like thi to see a shoobs style comparison where the builds are as similar as posisboe in terms of the switches and caps so we can get a one to one conparison in sound tests! esp if were using a comparison as a pseudo buyers guide
great video, however, i do have some feedback for this sort of comparison i feel you should give a fairer comparison and use the same switches for each board and if possible the same plate material.
Unrelated, but do you think that UHMW tape would help the link 65 hollowness from the cuts?
For us SEA the cycle7 is having a gb with an delivery time of… December… :(
You should have given points for availability also, whats a good keyboard if you can’t buy it ?!
we hope neo65 can stay in stock as much as possible!
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES CHOICE65 MOST???😂
If they would have offer a tri-mode VIA compatible version I'd have bought it. Even with the $30 shipping making it a $150 board.
1:50. If you know, you know.
Haha, insiders club
It is undeniable that C7 has a superior appearance design and playability, but if you enter the purchase page and settle the payment, it will cost around $200, and you will have to wait for about 3 months to receive the product. On the other hand, CHOICE65 has a significant advantage over other keyboards in that it is available for immediate purchase, and I also like its easy-to-install structure.
didn't expect to see AHP method for keyboard review lol, miss me those thesis time.
Lol glad you liked it!
In my experience with bakeneko boards, it sounds the best with alu plate or fr4 plate. I tried pom plate on the bakeneko and it sounded dull just like from your experience.
he should def do an alu build
I just got my Neo65. Blows me away that we can get this kind of quality of board for $100 now.
i highly recommend the neo 65 plateless witch the gasket pins or at least witch plate but with the gaskets instead of the o ring, the gaskets provide a much better sound profile
From what I’ve heard the Neo65 sounds a lot better using the gasket mount instead of the o-ring
The true winner is the sugar65
I’d love to see your comparison of the budget boards a tier higher like the JRIS75, QK75, and the Zoom75
As someone who came from gaming keyboards, to then dreaming about getting a Tofu60 because I thought they were great, to then getting one and realising their kind of bad all round. Its good that the Tofu is being pushed out of relevance and there are some much better keyboards that are now cheaper then the Tofu was.
You already had me with the 1min 50s video ;)
The wireless version of monsgeek M1 was released on taobao for 400rmb (55.78usd). I think it should definitely make it on the list😅
As someone who's been in the hobby for a while who tries to be responsible with money i love the invitation that is trickling down to the budget boards
It's pretty insane how the new keyboards are... they're like the premium/luxury boards of a few years ago
I just bought a Tofu60 a month ago before the wave of cheap keebs, It hurts
Scott! I usually love your scientific approach in your keyboard content, but I believe you missed the mark on this one. It would've been great to hear all 4 boards with the same switches and plate material in attempt to eliminate all variables. Still very entertaining as always!
I think having the 4 boards with the same switches and plate material would introduce a major variable, which is that boards are generally designed to sound a specific way, and a board might get dinged for being designed for a sound that didn't get tested.
For example, the choice65 seems intended to be used with some foam. But if someone only wants to buy a board that sounds good foam-less, then Scott doing all the sound tests with foam would make this entire review useless
Since you just tried the recommended setup, which is highly subjective, its difficult to draw a specific conclusion regarding sound right? Maybe you are missing one extra category like sound flexibility, how good it can be customized to your liking soundwise? Otherwise great video also i like the comp aspect.
I want to go foamless or maybe with plate and case foam. Im still wavering between qk75 and neo65, which one is better in term of sound and feel. Could you give me your thought on this ? Thank you
Nice review format. It's my 2nd preferred after modding tips.
I like this new format but I can see it being more demanding to make compared to looking at just a single keyboard, I'm fine with either though, thanks for all the good work and funny skits scott
Why would you give us a sound test with anything but gmk keycaps. What are these rgb caps?..
Neo65 should be built plateless. It sound completely different.
Nice vid! Can you update this list since a lot of keyboards around this price again are really good now
What's color of your Neo65? I think it seems to be navy or black.
This is great! How do you think these compare to the Tofu 65 2.0?
Part2 lets goo
Let's go!
The Neo65 gasket mounted blows all of the others out of the water in terms of sound, shame the o ring sucks so much
Building a KBDFans Pluto because Cycle7 GB is sold out 😕
Neo 65 vs Jris 65 vs qk65 R2, which would you pick?
great video! Was waiting for the neo65, i think maybe if u were to use an alu plate, it would help produce a livelier sound
I think so too! I think the POM plate is what also made this keyboard more quiet as well!
Its just sad that not a single one of those boards is available in my region anymore, and this video is not even 2 months old, I kinda wish this space was not this fast paset...
damn I really like this kind of videos, very good comparison point of view
Next please do non group buy $100ish keyboard
I can't make any choice before I see this video. I just know I need try something different because I have used my old keyboard VM01 for over 6 years. I can't say any difference of the sound between MKC 75 and Choice 65. I like both. Considering that small size will save more space, and I can move my hands more freely, I will choose Choice 65. Fast delivery is a plus.
Neo the kinda keyboard that sounds insane with mx blacks on alu and is mid with any other config
Please do a video on good budget 1800 layouts, pre builds.
To spice up keyboard videos, content creator should do Monkeytype pink slips for keyboards 😍
Fixed video, nice.
Finally! Thanks for the heads up!
I love the layout of the cycle7 and seeing how good it is in this video, I'm definitely gonna get it!
Glad to see you did a roundup type of video :)
:) first time, but hope it's helpful!
@@Keybored yessir it is, and just always nice to see more vids from u
Have a Neo65 on the way, still trying to decide on what switches but have a few weeks to figure that out. I loved the comparison review!
What pcb plate does he have on his neo65? I don't think he mentioned it
Please do a video on the Keychron Q6 Pro and mods you might do on it.
I made the king of all Frankenswitches: Durock L5 linear and Gateron Oil King mash. Used the bottom housing and leaf from the Durocks, then used the upper housing, stem, and spring from the Oil Kings. Resulted in a fast-actuating, smooth, heavy, deep-sounding switch with muted RGB. They do REQUIRE films due to the nature of fitting two different housings. Used Krytox 205g0.
Can you make a few to show on the channel? they are truly something spectacular!
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Hey Scott, I think I found the answer to why the NEO65 sounded so dull. Its because of the Haimu raws. They are surprisingly muted despite being long pole and it made a lot of my board sound dull. Maybe try giving it a try with something more traditional like a JWK would be better.
Can I ask how we can find out what's the ideal config for the boards? He mentioned for example, Neo65 was intended to be built with no foam. I tried googling about this but came up empty. Hence the question. I'm new to the hobby and would like to try building my board how the designer intended first.
I love this review format, it makes it way easier for people to make a purchase decision when they can see how a product excels and decide if they value that aspect of the product.
is it better to choose flex cut or non flex cut pcbs?
'$99 starting'
yeah, if you want to solder.
The price listing is so dishonest, because most people will buy it in hotswap. Which is not $99
I fking love you steve. Your reviews are hands down the best. Nobody even comes close. Can i call you keygod instead???
hate to be that guy, but add like $30-$50 on all the price tags here if youre in the US. thats how much i found shipping to be, although some of these boards seem like great value even after the shipping cost
If you try the gasket mount on Neo65, the sound and feel maybe surpass the cycle7. The oring is just for a new experience - an innovation point which non of the others have.
This might have just cemented my decision to join the Cycle7 GB.
I was hoping for an Asian Neo cameo... How does the volume of the Neoneko compare to the Cub 65?
no mode envoy review?
That subtle vibrating sound in the background music in the intro kept making me think my phone was vibrating, not sure if anyone else experienced that or just me lmao.
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:) Thanks!
Have you tried the Neo 65 with foams? Curious to hear how it compares to the Cycle7 since all the sound tests I'm seeing for it are foamless.
Can someone recommend best wireless custom keyboard? Preferably bluetooth.
Oh it's sad that you didn't try Molly60, that thing looks amazing for $100
The fact that their groupbuys are all happening is really good for viewer looking to get one of these.
A nice followup comparison would be something from the in-stock choices that are out there just to give folks an idea of what they might be sacrificing over waiting for a board. The Akko M1W, Leobog Hi75, and Xinmeng M71 seem to be the latest in stock competition.
CIDOO V65 v2 (or other names) and V75 (LMK81). None of these channels want to cover them because they need to push the group buy scarcity boards. These other boards threaten that world.
@@JustSomeGuy009 Creators are covering those boards but some that I mentioned are too new for creators outside of East Asia to cover them. I don't feel they really don't threaten these groupbuy boards... the groupbuys offer way more customization and choice than these products. While I enjoy those products for their availability, they are definitely not perfect and do have tradeoffs (the V65's low typing angle and crappy stabs), I feel it's still good to talk about them since no everyone can afford to wait or buy a more expensive groupbuy custom.
I have joined choice65 GB, so excited to get it before September!!!
I really appreciate all the finer points you made in this video. Thank you for sharing.
Cheapest shipping option on cycle7 is over 50 dollars to north america.
I bait it is Cycle 7❤. The boi born from Vertex + Equalz
I was so surprised by its sound!
@@Keybored let’s looking forward to Angle65 another big boy from Vertex🤩
@@Keyboredbtw I think we can try some Vertex V1 switch on Cycle 7 and Neo65, which will give u more surprise👍
angle is hella expensive though, i'm looking forward to their arc60 restock
Jucy Video
Thanks!
Would love to see how the Womier S-K71 keyboard compares against these ones
how about monsgeek m1w
Looking into those raw switches you used in the neo 65 it sure seems like they are noted to have a less pronounced and lower subdued sound. More proof that sound tests are pointless especially when things are completely inconsistent between boards.
Thank you for this! Just got a new work from home job. Great timing on the video.
any recommendations for a 65% keyboard kit with knob?
i like your both video format tho 😭, as individual video for each keyboard is more detailed, and i love it
Keybored be like every keyboard is great, cant criticize anything lmao
This is a fantastic video.
The neos already has protos out? Also have you been wanting to expand outside of keyboards?
This cycle 7 is so Nice !!!!
POV the video went from 2 minutes long to 20. 🎉
I don't think that having foam for the sound tests is a good idea, maybe i'd be better without foam so the characteristics of the board stand out.