@@calvincalvinify the lsd, the suspension, bigger brakes, more tunability, just with ecu tune from tsp it's around 234hp. The lsd makes the car. Until you drive one, you won't know.
@@calvincalvinify much much different, even though it's labeled a civic, most of the things that affects handling is changed. Steering rack is controlled differently, stiffer sway bars, bigger wheels, stiff suspension, different control arms and everything else the guy above me has mentioned.
Al J exactly how it works lol I bought one once and for hat same reason it was a civic that was with all the things that the civic didn’t have this I wanted and didn’t have all the things the civic I had that I hated it’s the non civic civic the best way to describe it
@@HarryTwatter different turbo, cams, and other engine compartments. The SI block can handle more boost. Higher tuning potential. Plus the adjustable dampening.
What do you mean by exterior falling apart? Nothing on either (or really any) vehicles exterior should, by any means, "fall apart" in even close to 5 years.. But I do like the civic better ;)
So true about telling people what car you drive. I tell them I have a focus st and all they can think is "it's a focus". But when they see it in person they get it.....most of the time.
Lol I know right! I'm like Yea but when you see it n I take you for a ride you'll get it. Then when they do see it they're like Yea it looks fast n when I take them for a ride n they piss a little they're like Yea it really is fast n can seriously handle.
I get what you're saying but your problem is you care what other people think about your car. That's the equivalent of caring what people think about your girlfriend dude
I don’t feel this is a fair comparison. The Honda is a much newer design, the MK3 chassis is from 2012! I am a 2013 ST3 owner with 75K on my car. I love it don’t get me wrong but I find it hard to believe that I would chose my ST3 over this Honda Si. I was a 2006 Acura TL 6 Speed Manual owner for 10 years, 158K miles, and Honda’s are just really, really great. I will say this though. The shift linkage and clutch were fair stock. Only 4% of TL’s sold were manual and Honda never did a proper recall to fix the fucked up manual. Still that VTEC 3.2 was a hell of a motor.
The 3.2 is a monster but those automatic transmissions were recalled cause they were absolute junk. My one friend's went at 55k miles and another friend at 70k miles. Otherwise nice cars. But my Focus still smoke it lol.
I feel like the si is a very well built sturdy little sports car and can actually get the power up a bit to meet the focus ST but as far as it being better than the focus ST from factory, it really can’t compare to the ST
It does compare in terms of speed. It might not have the same feel but it beats the ST around a track on virtually all the media publications stock for stock.
its not a sports car. Si stand for "Sport injected", meaning is a sporty car. That civic will never be a sports car. hell the BRZ/FRS/GT86 is a sports car.
The coupe has a rear window where the headspace should be. If you want other people to enjoy your car, get the sedan. You'll have less reasons to take a different vehicle, and you may have to take coworkers around sometime. Considering it's only 2 inches longer, but has a ton of more interior head space and legroom, get the sedan.
I've had an ST3 for about five years now with that said.... The SI is the better platform lol the adaptive suspension and LSD are just a few of the reason let alone build quality
Gjeebs on a roll....they pull super hard. Depends on the tune...how much more the stock block can take is the question. Gotta do some reading....on the fence about what to get next. Leaning towards the Fiesta ST right now but I could wait a bit after I let go of my NC.
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn new otd in vegas bro. Hit the dealership up at the end of the month. They'll practically give you the car lol. I initially left and they called me back 2 days later with what I wanted. All about haggle and not taking no for an answer pretty much.
If I were to choose a Civic from this generation for a daily driver, it would definitely be an SI. Like you said, all tasteful mods to the vehicle! In my opinion, I just can't justify a car that looks like the Type R, no matter the performance. Great review!
My son fits perfectly behind me with his car seat, and I'm 6ft tall . I feel that his sitting position is what made it seem small. From the passenger seat being pushed back, I feel that he sits real back when driving also.
I'm probably just old but I only like loud exhaust on a Harley or a V8. Although I did have some bad ass loud exhaust on my 1st car my 1985 Cutlass Cierra Brougham 3.8L V6. I really want to get a new Si but I will probably leave the muffler alone. Just personal preference. I wouldn't mind doing the intake and downpipe and stuff like that. I would consider K-Tuner but am leaning more towards Hondata. I'll have to look up some more videos on the pros and cons of both. And of course I GOT to get my that RED H like the Type R! 😉
Is a stock ST faster than one of these non v-tech turbo SI’s? I traded my v-tech 2013 SI for a 2018 ST... I kinda miss my Honda a bit after watching this...
At the end of the day on driving on the street, power is not what is important. Having something you enjoy and makes you smile will out shine any car, why do you think the mx5 is such a beast in selling?
civic owner....when you pay top dollar for a fucking badge and fake hood...i myself would have taken the ST, because more performance and i would not be included in the other civic i see driving around wich are all riced out n stanced....
I just bought my Si 3 weeks ago and there were plenty of Focus ST new for sale marked down to 20-21k. In the end they were both slower than my wrx. The Si has a much better interior and gauges that make the car feel special. Plus the transmission and helical diff just felt a lot better. I didn’t really notice an acceleration difference and they’re pretty close regardless. Plus the Si blows it away in fuel efficiency and is the leader for residual value in its class.
Go to this link before you buy a Civic Si with a turbo 1.5L: www.autoblog.com/2019/05/24/honda-cr-v-civic-engine-warranty-extended/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000021&yptr=yahoo Honda extends engine warranty for 2017-2018 CR-Vs and 2016-2018 Civics with the 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine due to "rising" oil levels caused by gasoline that hasn't been vaporized in combustion washing down the cylinders and mixing with the oil.
I test drove both and the SI didn't even compare. The Rev hang made it almost undrivable. It's a beautiful car and I love Honda's but the Civic ain't got shit on the Focus ST, it has no torque and the interior felt super cheap. It looks cool though, I love the mods.
I would chose a bicycle over a ford st or and ford car lol. Not bagging on honda. I work on fords and and the focus line has been nightmares for customers.
When it comes to the Focus st3 seats, remove the plastic molding under the seat and it will be way more comfortable, no more digging into your thighs, no more complaints. Just be careful when removing, a lot easier to break it than it is to remove it the right way
I didn't want a Honda. I looked at many other cars. Most were automatically rules out because of money. Everyone has a Honda and I just didn't want one. Until I decided to just check it out. I can always walk away. And there it was: a 2006 Civic Si. Black. Off the truck. Plastic bags still on the interior. Mine the next day. Still have it today. It's not the best quality interior as far as material goes, but it is awesome everywhere else that matters.
Lol I hope you're wrong! Have a 17 ST but got the 84 month 100k warranty cause it was cheap. Hopefully they fix the damn thing if it breaks. 23k happy miles so far. Only time will tell!
Yeah because they dont have the vtec noise if you want noise thou just buy a cold air intake lol si sucks thou it doesnt sound better but everything else makes up for it
My wife and I cross shopped the Civic Si with the Focus ST. The difference is night and day. Driving the SI felt like every other economy hatch back out there with a nice interior. The Focus ST feels like it was built for drivers by people with passion and enthusiasm for driving. The SI felt like it was built by bean counters.
Adaptive dampers, g meter, stiffer steering on the fly, lap timer, etc that makes it a drivers car lol my si makes me feel like it wants me to have fun every day and go fast around a track if there is one
I bought my 2020 in November. It’s by far the best Honda I’ve ever owned. Bang for buck the Si stands above the Type R. If Honda has made the type R a all wheel drive I would have bought it. But I had a k20 in 2002.....like $40,000 too much bruv lol.
I had both. St has a stronger motor stock. Sounds great. And yes the back seats were horrible for kids. My kids (3&4) had to get out side stepping and ducking because of the recaro seats curve farther back. Si seats are perfect. Overall the Si is overall well refined and gives a great driving experience and more daily friendly. ST youre always in racer mode cuz those recaros and positioning. Both great cars but the Si is more reliable and refined. More tech on the Si with sport mode. Good choice!
I get the feeling this car is really more about the intangibles. Can't say until Ive driven one though. If you consider the FiST is widely regarded as more fun to drive than the FoST, it starts to make more sense. The Si has only about 150lbs extra weight, but has an LSD and adaptive dampers that more than compensate.
Bro my 2012 si was 2857 on the rack how is this new version lighter Honda is just saying things now hopeful that no one will remember the past generations the previous civic was lighter and safer Han this one I would know I had a bus hit me at highway speeds and lived so with that said fuck yes I would get another si but this one for me doesn’t represent the Honda spirit maybe next time Honda currently I feel they have lost their way now to me they make cars that are like everyone else’s used to not be that way sadly it is now hopefully they go back to higher revving n/a motors and place emphasis on balance of the vehicle as a whole and not just the power point as a main focal point
I actually traded my 16 ST for an 18 Si. I loved my St and it was a great car but because of my job I put on 72k in 2 years and once I got past 65k miles I started running into issues. And it seemed to come one right after another. The second I fixed something something else started having issues. It got to the point to where if I turned off the car I wouldn't know if I'd turn back on. And because I was on the extended warranty at this point Ford would find a way to deny the claims on my completely stock ST. It was starting to turn into a money pit so I traded for an 18 Si. I'm happy with my choice and the si has been nothing but reliable! I do at times miss how much of a hooligan the ST was and I remember it fondly despite the way it ended. Both are great cars and I recommend ST's to those looking for cheap used cars because the depreciation on them are nuts. You can get a lot of car for mid to low teens!
Jacob Martinez I had an ST for a sec and got rid of it asap. It just wasn't what i expected it would be. I was thinking about getting a Si, but Imo, Honda made it look too flashy for me. So I opted and got a GTI. So far, I'm happy with my GTI.
Illl give everyone one reason not to buy the ford st every week when I drive to work I see one dead on the high parked up and police place their inspection sticker on it which means its been sitting there for a while
No way, all of the gen 10 civics look amazing and have incredible driving mechanics. Gen 9 civics barely look different than gen 8 civics and have cheap interiors.
I was also comparing the Si vs ST when I was shopping for a car. Ended up going with the Si because I got a better price on it and the infamous Honda reliability. Both really fun and really capable cars.
With all those civic mods, is it required that you go premium fuel or can you run regular only those gas saving trips across the states? I'm new to this stuff and am trying to learn as much as i can before buying one of those civics myself.
@@itsfinn9644 I know they recommend it, but it's not required, I am wondering if that is the same for cars that have been modded a bit. I am essentially thinking "What if I lose my job suddenly, because large employers can let people go any time for dumb reasons"
The lap timer, g meter, shift light, adaptive dampers, the spoiler, and the stiffer steering on the fly was a win for me when i choose my civic si coupe
Just push it.. 😒what you mean you don’t wanna cut it loose.. if you got good tires and suspension the Honda will hold the corner, don’t be scared its not a ford
I own this car and daily it (all stock) and I am a spirited driver and there is NO WAY he is getting 30 MPG driving 'spirited' - I get about 20-25 if I am lucky driving spirited around town - On HWY I can hit 30mpg NP and on road trips about 36-42mpg....but 30 while being spirited? Unless the tune has something to do with it, it's not possible...(unless he isn't driving as 'spirited' as he says lol) But def Si over an ST, I know the ST has more power but - on reliability alone, Honda will outshine the ST any day - let's see the ST get over 100K without a hiccup lol - His car looks great tho, I love the wheels and the blacked out head lights and tail lights!
Si = when you want a Civic but you don't want a Civic.
Right !? like I want to upgrade my lx but its still a civic just 205hp is it really worth it.
@@calvincalvinify the lsd, the suspension, bigger brakes, more tunability, just with ecu tune from tsp it's around 234hp. The lsd makes the car. Until you drive one, you won't know.
@@calvincalvinify much much different, even though it's labeled a civic, most of the things that affects handling is changed. Steering rack is controlled differently, stiffer sway bars, bigger wheels, stiff suspension, different control arms and everything else the guy above me has mentioned.
Bro Idek what I want either a 2017 Infiniti Q50 3.0t or a 2018 Honda Civic Si like they’re both great cars ughh idk man
Al J exactly how it works lol I bought one once and for hat same reason it was a civic that was with all the things that the civic didn’t have this I wanted and didn’t have all the things the civic I had that I hated it’s the non civic civic the best way to describe it
They should make a civic hatch si
I agree
every hatch has the same engine as the Si, just a tune away from being the same thing
@@HarryTwatter No lsd though, but some ppl wouldn't care about that. Like you said though, just a tune away from the same power.
@@HarryTwatter different turbo, cams, and other engine compartments. The SI block can handle more boost. Higher tuning potential. Plus the adjustable dampening.
@@rahimdamji29 where do you get this info? Do you know the difference between the si and touring
at the end of the day still a ford focus with no resale value...after 5years interor start falling apart.civic has way better interior and looks...
Everything about the Civic So is better than the ST
What do you mean by exterior falling apart? Nothing on either (or really any) vehicles exterior should, by any means, "fall apart" in even close to 5 years..
But I do like the civic better ;)
@@auston.e8493 i think he ment interior 😂
bigG low and mpg
@@auston.e8493 I think he means it'll look bad over time
So true about telling people what car you drive. I tell them I have a focus st and all they can think is "it's a focus".
But when they see it in person they get it.....most of the time.
Lol I know right! I'm like Yea but when you see it n I take you for a ride you'll get it. Then when they do see it they're like Yea it looks fast n when I take them for a ride n they piss a little they're like Yea it really is fast n can seriously handle.
ya they get it... dont they ? more than you can afford, pal.
Focus is a piece of shit dude. Don’t focus on ST , Focus on Ford Focus haha 😂
I get what you're saying but your problem is you care what other people think about your car. That's the equivalent of caring what people think about your girlfriend dude
@@ADDwithJTC You need a thesaurus
Is it just me or do all Honda owners drink Arizona tea? Ever since I got my Integra I’ve been drinking Arizona like crazy😂
if Integra lol it’s a conspiracy
When I get one I'm totally going to start drinking that every time I drive.
Just get a type r if you’re going to throw on a fake engine cover. Wtf.
Firestarter honestly smh. Why do base/si owners always try to replicate the type r 🙄
carbon fiber wrap, random wheel, "type r" front bumper, tasteful mods
I don’t feel this is a fair comparison. The Honda is a much newer design, the MK3 chassis is from 2012! I am a 2013 ST3 owner with 75K on my car. I love it don’t get me wrong but I find it hard to believe that I would chose my ST3 over this Honda Si. I was a 2006 Acura TL 6 Speed Manual owner for 10 years, 158K miles, and Honda’s are just really, really great. I will say this though. The shift linkage and clutch were fair stock. Only 4% of TL’s sold were manual and Honda never did a proper recall to fix the fucked up manual. Still that VTEC 3.2 was a hell of a motor.
The 3.2 is a monster but those automatic transmissions were recalled cause they were absolute junk. My one friend's went at 55k miles and another friend at 70k miles. Otherwise nice cars. But my Focus still smoke it lol.
Idk how you can take yourself seriously for driving an si with wanna be type R parts😂
Joseph Harding all good man your the minority
Freakin haters man lol.. maybe he appreciated things about the type R without wanting to drop the extra 15k
It looks good to be honest. On the other hand, if he threw on Type R badging/stickers then I’d understand your viewpoint more.
Because he wanted the styling without the midlife crisis spoiler
I feel like the si is a very well built sturdy little sports car and can actually get the power up a bit to meet the focus ST but as far as it being better than the focus ST from factory, it really can’t compare to the ST
Yea out of the factory they aren’t on the same level. I talk about that in my next video tomorrow
It does compare in terms of speed. It might not have the same feel but it beats the ST around a track on virtually all the media publications stock for stock.
Do you mechanic?
@Sloonz Lel it's little because its incredibly light.
its not a sports car. Si stand for "Sport injected", meaning is a sporty car. That civic will never be a sports car. hell the BRZ/FRS/GT86 is a sports car.
Damn. Those rims are so nice 👍
Si looks really good. I been in the market for a new car for a while now. I think I finally decided to go with the Si coupe
get the 4 door so when you have kids you can actually drive with a car seat
@@calvincalvinify Let the misses have the 4 door or SUV.
@@calvincalvinify lol i have two kids and they fit nicely in the coupe
The coupe has a rear window where the headspace should be. If you want other people to enjoy your car, get the sedan. You'll have less reasons to take a different vehicle, and you may have to take coworkers around sometime.
Considering it's only 2 inches longer, but has a ton of more interior head space and legroom, get the sedan.
@@sheldonsplace4511 won't be kids forever, and eventually they won't enjoy hitting their heads on your rear window when you downshift
Lol, this dude was scared he was going to be allergic to reliablity coming from vw. Hahahaha
I've had an ST3 for about five years now with that said.... The SI is the better platform lol the adaptive suspension and LSD are just a few of the reason let alone build quality
Did you got to try all 3 stages of the TSP stage 1 tune? There’s big difference between all 3.
"All tasteful mods" has an apple logo on window.
Hitoshi Takumi Gotta let everyone know you overspend
😂
I was so hyped for this video!!! Hell yeah gjeebs this video was sick
Your si is the neatest 10th gen ive ever seen, exterior wise ofcorse !
Nick Name thanks a lot!
Newer SI are nice BUT the one from the video is not. Owners desperately wanted a Type-R so much that he murdered the SI.
malakius let’s see your ride
@@georgea.sanchez2135 Just find a picture of a regular 18 SI Sedan. That's mine. No extra bullshit added
Earth Dreams 1.5L Turbo Honda CRV, Accord, Civic Oil Dilution problem
Do a search on Honda service bulletins (18-114 and 18-224)
Free reflash from Honda under recall to fix the problem
They say with the full synthetic oil to change it every 7,500-10,000 miles. Just change it every 5,000 miles and you'll be fine.
I sure hope your not saying the ford engine is more reliable.
Has anyone had the reflash performed?
Those turbo 1.5’s are quite capable when tuned!
Yea I got to experience that first hand
Gjeebs on a roll....they pull super hard. Depends on the tune...how much more the stock block can take is the question. Gotta do some reading....on the fence about what to get next. Leaning towards the Fiesta ST right now but I could wait a bit after I let go of my NC.
@@piemanpokey theres a guy pushin 465whp on a stock block if you're curious
@@churrolini3084 is there a dyno video for that? I am curious of what the 1.5 can hold.
@@civicpride1986 th-cam.com/video/GdMZ2fpVn4c/w-d-xo.html
Curious how much money he has into it. Seems like he could be close to just buying the Type R.
AceStroup not anywhere close to what a type R price tag brings! Just over about 2k invested with everything being done by me! 😃
Got my 18 si for 20k new otd. Have about 2k into mods and pushin 280 whp 320 tq
@@churrolini3084 20k ?? Really where ?? Used maybe in California but not new. Jesus thats a steal lol
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn new otd in vegas bro. Hit the dealership up at the end of the month. They'll practically give you the car lol. I initially left and they called me back 2 days later with what I wanted. All about haggle and not taking no for an answer pretty much.
@@churrolini3084 thats awesome lol
If I were to choose a Civic from this generation for a daily driver, it would definitely be an SI. Like you said, all tasteful mods to the vehicle! In my opinion, I just can't justify a car that looks like the Type R, no matter the performance. Great review!
This dude murdered his new civic si . Poor car .
Mr. Dude hahaha 😂
Which engine can last more is the real question . I have a kseries but don’t know much about these new Honda engines .
Stock clutch ?
Yep
My son fits perfectly behind me with his car seat, and I'm 6ft tall . I feel that his sitting position is what made it seem small. From the passenger seat being pushed back, I feel that he sits real back when driving also.
Fake carbon fiber is ricer tacky
No it's not. noob comment...
Kevin McClelland yes it is. Noob reply.
I'm probably just old but I only like loud exhaust on a Harley or a V8. Although I did have some bad ass loud exhaust on my 1st car my 1985 Cutlass Cierra Brougham 3.8L V6. I really want to get a new Si but I will probably leave the muffler alone. Just personal preference. I wouldn't mind doing the intake and downpipe and stuff like that. I would consider K-Tuner but am leaning more towards Hondata. I'll have to look up some more videos on the pros and cons of both. And of course I GOT to get my that RED H like the Type R! 😉
Why do people always show us their faces when driving cars, like we need to see the roads bro
That’s a fair point. I can always add another camera to show the road
Noticed you guys are in Az. Tucson local here.
That car does not deserve a red Honda badge
Is a stock ST faster than one of these non v-tech turbo SI’s? I traded my v-tech 2013 SI for a 2018 ST... I kinda miss my Honda a bit after watching this...
Stock to stock the ST is faster
My stage 1.5678888 st has way more power than his stage 1.48998776 si
At the end of the day on driving on the street, power is not what is important. Having something you enjoy and makes you smile will out shine any car, why do you think the mx5 is such a beast in selling?
Gotta respect Honda's. Reliable, good performance, good interior and not overly expensive.
Riccardo I’m a VW fanboy but the coupes don’t look terrible.
"Gets a replica Type R bumper and bits to put on his SI" just buy a Type R and stop being a wannabe.
That's an HFP thing
My thought exactly.
civic owner....when you pay top dollar for a fucking badge and fake hood...i myself would have taken the ST, because more performance and i would not be included in the other civic i see driving around wich are all riced out n stanced....
I just bought my Si 3 weeks ago and there were plenty of Focus ST new for sale marked down to 20-21k.
In the end they were both slower than my wrx. The Si has a much better interior and gauges that make the car feel special. Plus the transmission and helical diff just felt a lot better. I didn’t really notice an acceleration difference and they’re pretty close regardless. Plus the Si blows it away in fuel efficiency and is the leader for residual value in its class.
Go to this link before you buy a Civic Si with a turbo 1.5L:
www.autoblog.com/2019/05/24/honda-cr-v-civic-engine-warranty-extended/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000021&yptr=yahoo
Honda extends engine warranty for 2017-2018 CR-Vs and 2016-2018 Civics with the 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine due to "rising" oil levels caused by gasoline that hasn't been vaporized in combustion washing down the cylinders and mixing with the oil.
I test drove both and the SI didn't even compare. The Rev hang made it almost undrivable. It's a beautiful car and I love Honda's but the Civic ain't got shit on the Focus ST, it has no torque and the interior felt super cheap. It looks cool though, I love the mods.
The Civic has a diff, that's something pretty important.
Idk what kind of Si you've been in, but the interior of the new Si is much better than the ST. I've had both.
Type R beat the st. You do know that. Right?
Rev hang sucks
@@josueacevedo5142 no way is the SI's interior better than an ST3 Focus.
What’s the roof rack on this Honda?
all that money spent could have got you a better car, the type R with all the flare and real ballzz
man they fucked up the back of the si. not smooth or clean at all lol
Agree 100%
@@Tcho2100 they do look good though when they lowered. way nicer then i expected, i hated them til i seen one that was stupid low
I would chose a bicycle over a ford st or and ford car lol. Not bagging on honda. I work on fords and and the focus line has been nightmares for customers.
My '09 Si is still a fucking rock star at 231k miles. With minimal mods, I still can smoke 9 out of 10 drivers out there. When vtec hits.... c-ya
When it comes to the Focus st3 seats, remove the plastic molding under the seat and it will be way more comfortable, no more digging into your thighs, no more complaints. Just be careful when removing, a lot easier to break it than it is to remove it the right way
I didn't want a Honda. I looked at many other cars. Most were automatically rules out because of money. Everyone has a Honda and I just didn't want one. Until I decided to just check it out. I can always walk away. And there it was: a 2006 Civic Si. Black. Off the truck. Plastic bags still on the interior. Mine the next day. Still have it today. It's not the best quality interior as far as material goes, but it is awesome everywhere else that matters.
I had a 2011 Si coupe. That’s a great car and great motor
The standard LSD is the only reason I need. Overall transmission quality is the only other reason.
Facts
OK OK YEAH OK WOW OK OK YEAH
What you FORD GUYS also say at the dealer ship when they explain all the repair costs LMAO!
Lol I hope you're wrong! Have a 17 ST but got the 84 month 100k warranty cause it was cheap. Hopefully they fix the damn thing if it breaks. 23k happy miles so far. Only time will tell!
Do they honor the warranty with a specific reflash/ recalibration, like the St does?
Probably not but I don’t know for sure
There is not a tune offered from dealer as of yet.
"Definitely Not" but, if you have a warranty issue, just uninstall the. " Tune " Hondata or Ktuner.
I think the last time I’ve seen a tree air freshener, was back in the 80’s.🤪🇨🇦
what wrap did they use?
40!!! 40mpg!!!??? If you have a 10th gsn Si and get 40 mpg you're not driving your car right
not a honda fan I like the focus st or rs more honda's interior is always better quality but i do like the focus interior it's just really cheap
Civic has bad engine design. Oil dilation big problem. Stay away from this engine
Ford Focus ST don’t hold value for shit. Lol, cool cars, but I’m glad I got a Civic Si
Because ford sux and Honda doesn't.
By far the dopest civic si I've seen
Sounds terrible when accelerating compared to your ST
Yeah because they dont have the vtec noise if you want noise thou just buy a cold air intake lol si sucks thou it doesnt sound better but everything else makes up for it
I have those rims on my 2013 st! You planning on getting any rims for yours gjeebs?
Seriously considered a new SI for my daily, but can’t get past the no LED headlights in 2019. Even my shitty, cheap Prius C one has LED headlights.
Didn’t even think of that. Surprised they don’t
Boosted 9th gen Si all day baby.
car owner @10:42 looks scared as hell lol prob thinking, bitch better not crash!
My wife and I cross shopped the Civic Si with the Focus ST. The difference is night and day. Driving the SI felt like every other economy hatch back out there with a nice interior. The Focus ST feels like it was built for drivers by people with passion and enthusiasm for driving. The SI felt like it was built by bean counters.
Adaptive dampers, g meter, stiffer steering on the fly, lap timer, etc that makes it a drivers car lol my si makes me feel like it wants me to have fun every day and go fast around a track if there is one
Yet the Si has a differential, and the ST does not.
Civic SI felt slow, had nasty rev hang and overall didn't impress me I drove a 2.0l Civic that felt better
Where u got those type r bumper from?
Edwin Sutanto +1 I need to know, too
Motorway in eco with cruise control will get 50mpg all day
Change out the turbo inlet pipe, doing just the intake does nothing
I bought my 2020 in November. It’s by far the best Honda I’ve ever owned. Bang for buck the Si stands above the Type R. If Honda has made the type R a all wheel drive I would have bought it. But I had a k20 in 2002.....like $40,000 too much bruv lol.
the civic is way better car for your money even if it not an si eversion
I had both. St has a stronger motor stock. Sounds great. And yes the back seats were horrible for kids. My kids (3&4) had to get out side stepping and ducking because of the recaro seats curve farther back. Si seats are perfect. Overall the Si is overall well refined and gives a great driving experience and more daily friendly. ST youre always in racer mode cuz those recaros and positioning. Both great cars but the Si is more reliable and refined. More tech on the Si with sport mode. Good choice!
I get the feeling this car is really more about the intangibles. Can't say until Ive driven one though. If you consider the FiST is widely regarded as more fun to drive than the FoST, it starts to make more sense. The Si has only about 150lbs extra weight, but has an LSD and adaptive dampers that more than compensate.
Hey not true. You drove my NSX and it is turbo 😎
Can’t wait to drive it again
@@Gjeebs same (wink wink)
Bro my 2012 si was 2857 on the rack how is this new version lighter Honda is just saying things now hopeful that no one will remember the past generations the previous civic was lighter and safer Han this one I would know I had a bus hit me at highway speeds and lived so with that said fuck yes I would get another si but this one for me doesn’t represent the Honda spirit maybe next time Honda currently I feel they have lost their way now to me they make cars that are like everyone else’s used to not be that way sadly it is now hopefully they go back to higher revving n/a motors and place emphasis on balance of the vehicle as a whole and not just the power point as a main focal point
Im sorry to say it but this is lowkey rice
Not a fan of the fake carbon wrap.. barf. Sry not sry.
I actually traded my 16 ST for an 18 Si. I loved my St and it was a great car but because of my job I put on 72k in 2 years and once I got past 65k miles I started running into issues. And it seemed to come one right after another. The second I fixed something something else started having issues. It got to the point to where if I turned off the car I wouldn't know if I'd turn back on. And because I was on the extended warranty at this point Ford would find a way to deny the claims on my completely stock ST. It was starting to turn into a money pit so I traded for an 18 Si. I'm happy with my choice and the si has been nothing but reliable! I do at times miss how much of a hooligan the ST was and I remember it fondly despite the way it ended. Both are great cars and I recommend ST's to those looking for cheap used cars because the depreciation on them are nuts. You can get a lot of car for mid to low teens!
Jacob Martinez I had an ST for a sec and got rid of it asap. It just wasn't what i expected it would be. I was thinking about getting a Si, but Imo, Honda made it look too flashy for me. So I opted and got a GTI. So far, I'm happy with my GTI.
Illl give everyone one reason not to buy the ford st every week when I drive to work I see one dead on the high parked up and police place their inspection sticker on it which means its been sitting there for a while
links on the carbon fiber wrap and type r bumper please.
Aeson +1
YEA repping that PRL intake!
9th Gen 15’ Si coupe is the best Looking Si made!!! I hope 11th Gen goes back to 9th Gen Si coupe styling
Agree!
No way, all of the gen 10 civics look amazing and have incredible driving mechanics. Gen 9 civics barely look different than gen 8 civics and have cheap interiors.
I own an 18 Si. With 1000$ upgrades on my Si I beat St all day bud!
Good job Doug!
Gjeebs I LOVE the fiesta Sts tho. The focuses are nice but I’ve always been a Honda person. But, Next car will be rwd!
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I was also comparing the Si vs ST when I was shopping for a car. Ended up going with the Si because I got a better price on it and the infamous Honda reliability. Both really fun and really capable cars.
Such as rice car
Really love the Si but that rear end just f##ks it all up 😩
Answer can be found as easily as considering which is worth more after 5 years? There's a reason for that.
With all those civic mods, is it required that you go premium fuel or can you run regular only those gas saving trips across the states? I'm new to this stuff and am trying to learn as much as i can before buying one of those civics myself.
Gasher70 they recommend premium anyway
@@itsfinn9644 I know they recommend it, but it's not required, I am wondering if that is the same for cars that have been modded a bit. I am essentially thinking "What if I lose my job suddenly, because large employers can let people go any time for dumb reasons"
Honda fanboy here but there’s no words to describe how bad the back of the new si’s is!
was considering a ST, almost forgot about the xgen SI, SI here we go!
hi ,the car look very nice....can you tell me please what kit for the roof rack you have the part number s for every thing
The lap timer, g meter, shift light, adaptive dampers, the spoiler, and the stiffer steering on the fly was a win for me when i choose my civic si coupe
You know the feeling when you see a base or touring civic and just pass by them..... pshh peasants 😭
ST > Si ;) just my opinion
You should drive bmw 330i at moment I’m pushing 300hp dream car!!!
I have a stock FBO 8th gen Si coupe and no ST has beaten me 😉 I don't like the look of the new Si though 😔
Even w all the mods n tunes is it still pretty reliable?
Focus st are slow can't handle twisty roads like Ford fiesta St
In the words of the templar knight from "The Last Crusade" .... He chose poorly....
Just push it.. 😒what you mean you don’t wanna cut it loose.. if you got good tires and suspension the Honda will hold the corner, don’t be scared its not a ford
No it wasn’t that, the road is very tight and blind and there are sometimes cyclists around the turns
Ohhh, well in that case..🤔🤔5 points a piece 🤷♂️🤷♂️😂😂Jk
Should've stayed with the Volkswagen instead of ricing the si
Focus is a 🍋
I own this car and daily it (all stock) and I am a spirited driver and there is NO WAY he is getting 30 MPG driving 'spirited' - I get about 20-25 if I am lucky driving spirited around town - On HWY I can hit 30mpg NP and on road trips about 36-42mpg....but 30 while being spirited? Unless the tune has something to do with it, it's not possible...(unless he isn't driving as 'spirited' as he says lol) But def Si over an ST, I know the ST has more power but - on reliability alone, Honda will outshine the ST any day - let's see the ST get over 100K without a hiccup lol - His car looks great tho, I love the wheels and the blacked out head lights and tail lights!
Mike Normandy I guess spirited driving is all relative to ones foot?! 🤷🏼♂️. Also thanks 😀
@@georgea.sanchez2135 Touche my man!
Yeah it depends on the person. I gun it every now and again, usually always chirp it out and get 31 mpg
I have a 2018 SI. I average about 24mpg
Only way to 30mpg is to do at least 50% highway with lots of coasting.
30mpg with a heavy foot? Impossible.