Jagdpanther Loaded Into Transport Ahead of Event

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  • @andrasbrnk7863
    @andrasbrnk7863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Driver - luckiest man on earth.

    • @stephenduffy5406
      @stephenduffy5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Final drive repairman- unluckiest man on earth 🤬

  • @johnedwards1685
    @johnedwards1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I came across this predator some years ago at Beltring Military Show in Kent, England. I believe it was the first time it was exhibited after restoration.
    Beltring was/is a unique immersive experience. Participants are granted unique access to the vehicles. This tank destroyer was factory-fresh, it smelled of warm oil, fresh paint and petrol, oh and money, lots and lots of money. I can scarcely dare to guess how much treasure the Weald Foundation had to part with in order to bring this vehicle back from the dead. The staggering quality of both restoration and indeed the German design was very evident. It was as if the destroyer had driven out of the factory straight to some exclusive Knightsbridge showroom. Every track link was newly cast, crisp and bright metal, the rubber roadwheel tyres were freshly moulded, just beautiful.
    When the team drove the destroyer down to the main exhibition ring, I walked beside it, filming for a friend on his phone. It made the ground shake underfoot, the impression of extreme weight and power was quite startling. The tracks and running gear are vociferous, snarling and complaining loudly at changes of direction. That gigantic V12 was competing with track noise, transmission whine and the cooling fans. It was ear overload.
    I think the driving team were still carrying out shakedown tests at the time, I didn’t hear a single gearchange after it first engaged drive so they were being very careful with it.
    But above all, the destroyer had lost none of its sheer and absolute menace.

    • @Wally-H
      @Wally-H 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least it didn't have to travel far to that show from their HQ - only about four miles or so I'd say.

  • @turkey0165
    @turkey0165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad these machines of war are being collected from the former battlefields of Europe and restored back as a reminder of the horror and tragedy of World War!

  • @TheArendt1
    @TheArendt1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an impressive beast... 😮, even the tracks look aggressive 🫣🫡

  • @markdahl9831
    @markdahl9831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE THIS TANK/DESTROYER.....OMW......such a beautiful beast....

  • @firefightergoggie
    @firefightergoggie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They even look modern in 2019. Always loved these since I was a kid and seen a photo in the school library.

  • @johnk6324
    @johnk6324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of, if not the best looking vehicle of ww2.

  • @eduardoteran1174
    @eduardoteran1174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One beautiful deadly tank destroyer, one of my favorites , that 88mm pak 43 was really powerful and impressive

  • @manuelaguilar1588
    @manuelaguilar1588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love this panther the mos beautiful tank of WWll

  • @t.jjohnson6317
    @t.jjohnson6317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a sweeeeeeeeeet machine... love it

  • @horrido666
    @horrido666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just realized the driver is periscope only in this thing. What a beast!

  • @treadheadpete4770
    @treadheadpete4770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Beautiful sight to see the old beast still running!

  • @Vargon7
    @Vargon7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed every second of that! Jagdpanther is one of those AFVs that just looks 'right'.

  • @Filiplego1
    @Filiplego1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I forgot how beautiful this tank is.

    • @waserdert6259
      @waserdert6259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro people need to understand
      Tank Destroyers aren't Tanks.

  • @NigelsModellingBench
    @NigelsModellingBench 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now that was some skillfull driving!!

    • @canoesino9290
      @canoesino9290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That guy has a light touch on the controls

  • @leokrupp4442
    @leokrupp4442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'd flip out if I was driving on the highway and saw a truck hauling a jagdpather.

    • @Ben-222
      @Ben-222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You seem like the type to flip out if you saw a Supra on the highway kiddo

    • @leokrupp4442
      @leokrupp4442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ben-222 I'm 37 you moron

    • @-CCdude
      @-CCdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kyle Reese Cut the guy some slack nothing wrong with being excited about a jagdpanther. When was the last time you saw one on the highway?????????????

    • @eliaslundstedt5607
      @eliaslundstedt5607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ben-222 that is you you are talking about. also fuck off a Supra is a great looking car

    • @eliaslundstedt5607
      @eliaslundstedt5607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen a russian T55 on a truck on the highway here in sweden, and that was very cool to just see fly by

  • @maxmoritz5065
    @maxmoritz5065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Who else loves to watch the suspension work when heavy tanks roll?

    • @TheScaleModeller
      @TheScaleModeller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah the Panther’s suspension an Engineers masterpiece but a crew mans nightmare...

    • @maxmoritz5065
      @maxmoritz5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mactrip100 i think longer than on ma moms accura

    • @TheScaleModeller
      @TheScaleModeller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I’ve seen period photos of the crew who looked “well happy” after pulling off 5 wheels to reach a damaged inner.
      Also it must of been a blast having to start fires underneath you’re tank leaking gasoline to melt the frozen mud stuck between the wheels in a Russian winter to just get underway each day

  • @davidjarkeld2333
    @davidjarkeld2333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It was great to see this at Tankfest thank you :)

  • @nagairyutaro264
    @nagairyutaro264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most beautiful tank ever made

  • @mattjenkins7216
    @mattjenkins7216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good, that machine purrs along nicely. Fantastic driver, well and smoothly controlled.

  • @stephanmuller3478
    @stephanmuller3478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thx for keeping this Beast alive.

  • @TheMikadu64
    @TheMikadu64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a monster , beautiful !!! Remember me playing COD WWII i drive a little Sherman and i see this coming to me , bad situation !!

  • @Richaag
    @Richaag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s easy to understand why quantity over quality won the war... but it’s also easy to understand why so many people are fascinated by German armored vehicles. They have design superiority that attracts interest. The same can’t be said for T-34s and M4s.

  • @johnnyroxx8513
    @johnnyroxx8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I build 1/35 tamiya German men to all machines as on field....the jagpanther is my 2nd fave under mark 6 3rd production....thank you for this so much AND YOUR WONDERFUL RESTORATION.

  • @vancouver4sure
    @vancouver4sure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thing of deadly beauty!! Drive it like you own it! Battle speed!

  • @brewt1mer
    @brewt1mer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to seeing it next weekend at tankfest...looks beautiful

  • @XenoDeki
    @XenoDeki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn beauty... it looks better than the tank it was based on (Panther) + it's packing that 8.8 gun that's used on the King Tiger. Best of both worlds. Probably the 2nd/3rd best WW2 tank to be inside in.

  • @chuckfinley6156
    @chuckfinley6156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what a beauty.

  • @alphamrc309
    @alphamrc309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mesmerizing!

  • @nikolajmadum8381
    @nikolajmadum8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    That's the most beautiful sound of a starting tank engine, what a freaking monster. Glad I'm not the Allies/Soviet soldiers who were in their trenches listening to that.
    German power.

    • @bbssssssssssssssssss
      @bbssssssssssssssssss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the end of the war,they were not scared anymore!

    • @nikolajmadum8381
      @nikolajmadum8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bbssssssssssssssssss
      They always were whenever they faced one of the German tanks, simply because they were superior in armor and firepower

    • @bbssssssssssssssssss
      @bbssssssssssssssssss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikolajmadum8381 Like isu 152,is 2 tank with 122mm!

    • @nikolajmadum8381
      @nikolajmadum8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bbssssssssssssssssss
      If I'm not mistaken was it first put in use after WW2 was over

    • @bbssssssssssssssssss
      @bbssssssssssssssssss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikolajmadum8381 Where do you live? They were both used in the december in 1943!

  • @frankh235
    @frankh235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video thank you. I'm always amazed how precise heavy German tanks can be driven, mm exactly. Beautiful!

  • @Mike3LV6
    @Mike3LV6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    greatings from germany awesome

  • @anatolib.suvarov6621
    @anatolib.suvarov6621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is a beautiful sound.
    Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it's fury, but it sure sounds great.

    • @stargazer1744
      @stargazer1744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess the soviets had to deal with this monster mostly, as I reckon the Wehrmacht used them more on the East front than on the west....It must have been a terrifying sight for the Soviet infantry to spot one of these looming in the horizon...!

  • @johnnyroxx8513
    @johnnyroxx8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see my grease bucket in white too.FANTASTIC

  • @ThePiratonmayor
    @ThePiratonmayor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent yessssss

  • @AmazingAce
    @AmazingAce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome

  • @VeronEK1988
    @VeronEK1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Beautiful piece of German engineering.

    • @seanmager1168
      @seanmager1168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes the Jagdpanther was VERY BEAUTIFUL an Cool an Sleek. it didn't suffer from as many problems as the hetzer an panther an king tiger an jagdtiger an elefant did. This thing would've been VERY Useful if after the war, us an the British an the Good Germans an French an Italians an Canadians an Polish had to fight the Russians. as we had control of the Rhur. Germany's Industrial main power so we could made some More Jagdpanthers.

    • @Terramorfios
      @Terramorfios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanmager1168 Если знать ,что хренова туча попала в трофеи после войны ВС СССР,то раскатали бы всю Европу в блин.Вы достали своими идиотскими маршами.Добрые европейцы?Пипец!Под Парижем уйма костяных костёлов.Миллионы людей сожрано предками европейцев!Это уму непостижимо!Перед вермахтом все европейцы на коленях стояли,если бы не нападение на СССР,то и Англия стала бы колонией Рейха.

    • @mcfrosty8739
      @mcfrosty8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Terramorfios As a Brit, you're very much correct. I always hear how it was the Americans who saved us but it was definitely the USSR. They had the vast numbers to throw at the Germans and very good tanks. We would've been able to put up a good fight and probably would've lasted for quite a while but if Germany didn't attack Russia and waited and built their naval fleet up then we would have been in a pretty dire situation

    • @Terramorfios
      @Terramorfios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcfrosty8739 Yes, that would be unfortunate. If we remember that many Jews had relatives in rich families in both Britain and the United States, the war would have dragged on for a long time. To put it mildly, certain circles pushed the fascists and Communists to further redefine the world and get a gesheft from military contracts.

    • @TheScaleModeller
      @TheScaleModeller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sean Mager what are you smoking, after the war the French were given Panthers to form a new tank core. However, they soon scrapped all of them as they were so unreliable. Nice to look at but a useless piece of military hardware that was poorly designed

  • @markstone5597
    @markstone5597 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    good driver,

  • @gwenstefani2211
    @gwenstefani2211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a beautiful Beast🔝

  • @enthalpiaentropia7804
    @enthalpiaentropia7804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating and stunning ....
    Made in Germany...!

  • @rayw3332
    @rayw3332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some guys have all the fun.

  • @schwertr.g973
    @schwertr.g973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super!!!

  • @TheGorillafoot
    @TheGorillafoot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what the police would say if they pulled you over in one of those haha! What a great looking restore. Germans were so ahead of their time when it came to weapon design.

    • @stargazer1744
      @stargazer1744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      German engineers really love to design these beasts...Just watch today's Leopard 2 A7 or the Puma...!

  • @Cellofoon
    @Cellofoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    B-E-A-Utiful !!!

  • @nagairyutaro264
    @nagairyutaro264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like this tank very much

  • @TheGrace020
    @TheGrace020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Stunning !!!

  • @Slaktrax
    @Slaktrax ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful! Love the sound of the engine too 🙂

  • @alexfrenette8565
    @alexfrenette8565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a BMF, thanks for sharing ❤

  • @johnnyroxx8513
    @johnnyroxx8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ITS THIS,TIGER 1 AUS 3 AND THE STÜRMGESCHEUTZ......MY FAVORITES IVE GOT 3 TIGERS 4 GESCHEUTZ AND 2 JAGTPANTHERS IN 1/35TH TAMIYA OUT OF 60 GERMAN KITS AND 100 MEN ALL FULLY PAINTED AND DECALLED. .THE TAMIYA DECALS FOR THE MEN ARE GREAT.....IVE STILL GOT 25 TO BUILD....BUT MAN,I WISHED THEY HAD FULL SKIRTS AND DIfferent paint and zimmerit,but crap....with its grease bucket,its perfect as those tracks are great.

  • @jeffreytan2948
    @jeffreytan2948 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm amazed the Germans didn't make new rear stowage boxes specifically for the new rear profile of the Panther G chassis. You can see by the shape of the stowage boxes that it still use the 2 step side angles of the Panther A and D so it doesn't really quite fit in the Panther G. (From which the JagdPanther was ultimately derived)

  • @user-kt8bo1wp4i
    @user-kt8bo1wp4i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ドイツの戦車のデザインは素晴らしい

  • @SantaChannel.2022
    @SantaChannel.2022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Like GermanTank From japan

  • @pierreclot5609
    @pierreclot5609 ปีที่แล้ว

    the timing is right but we are going to need thousands more

  • @robertwiltshire6297
    @robertwiltshire6297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous and that sound! I'd buy it but it doesn't have cup holders or power seats!😆

  • @DTD2212
    @DTD2212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:45 I searched for "Jagdpanther hull" and found recovery pictures and wow. How do you find an abandoned WW2 tank just chilling there? 2 for that matter, amazing

  • @jasonharry645
    @jasonharry645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well maintained example

  • @Sto08
    @Sto08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lovely use Jagdpanther in COH2

  • @ralphgeigner3011
    @ralphgeigner3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THE WEALD FOUNDATION & Tank Fest and other WWII Armor museums would be neat to get to sometime ? Go ARMY

  • @reneandersen4358
    @reneandersen4358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whau...👍

  • @maastomunkki
    @maastomunkki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smooth job, chaps, well done! I have to ask, how many hours does the person driving this kitty have on this particular vehicle, or is it just that easy to drive? (:

    • @HaVoC117X
      @HaVoC117X 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They asked this question to the french guy who drove the french panther, he said this tank is very easy to drive compared to other tanks, including cold war tanks.

  • @Obelisk57
    @Obelisk57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a hard time transporting mine. Had to remove the 88mm gun before packaging. Spent all day wrapping it. It's 1:35 scale though so I can fit it in my Honda.

  • @gruppenfuhrer45
    @gruppenfuhrer45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love it, just a shame they had to put those “bumper stickers” all over it.

  • @elvisciotoi5389
    @elvisciotoi5389 ปีที่แล้ว

    This tank is one verry good roumanian project making in Romania in ww2 and development in nazzi Germanii.

  • @Christoph-sd3zi
    @Christoph-sd3zi ปีที่แล้ว

    @00:48 yeah, baby - gimme the good stuff - 12 cylinders of Maybach power

  • @enzok6414
    @enzok6414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:08 oh baby!

  • @cd9aevo
    @cd9aevo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a porsche 917 start up

  • @user-zi5hc1we7q
    @user-zi5hc1we7q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Красавица.Восстановили великолепно.

  • @erichn4291
    @erichn4291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is a beautiful machine but I bet they were not saying that in ww2!

  • @jmtproductions3650
    @jmtproductions3650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this the same jadgpanther used in band of brothers?

  • @canderousordo6041
    @canderousordo6041 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What do u guys think? Would those exhaust pipes be adequate for my Fiat Panda?

    • @kubanskiloewe
      @kubanskiloewe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      sure but putin stiffer springs before :-)

    • @maxmoritz5065
      @maxmoritz5065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got the same on ma Honda .sounds great.

  • @__chevytrucks__
    @__chevytrucks__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everybody gangsta till the wedge gets a gun

  • @simonbennett9486
    @simonbennett9486 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    V. nice indeed, but please lose the stickers on the front and sides. Maybe have something on the rear if you need to.

    • @wealdfoundation
      @wealdfoundation  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We only use any kind of these while transporting our vehicles, not during shows.

  • @timojarvela4130
    @timojarvela4130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe best tank in ww2, so rapild to build and ashtonis 88 pak gun.

  • @theeaselrider4032
    @theeaselrider4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think " Beast" doesn't even come close.

    • @seanmager1168
      @seanmager1168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. id call it Monster...

  • @donmckeoun7990
    @donmckeoun7990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main gun is high velocity tank busting terror

  • @ivogama1161
    @ivogama1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is in its nature to Fire 00:55 !

  • @jamesthehandsome8582
    @jamesthehandsome8582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is it again ..... That freackin bucket !?

  • @advocaciamendes
    @advocaciamendes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:53 ... almost "bella ciao" fingers

  • @kubanskiloewe
    @kubanskiloewe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    new tracks ? from where ??

    • @tenaxxband
      @tenaxxband 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ebay with free shipping

    • @kubanskiloewe
      @kubanskiloewe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tenaxxband now i know why we lost the war....ebay was´nt available:-)

  • @ervinseptiono8545
    @ervinseptiono8545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this a petrol engine?

  • @andreasspinnrock3557
    @andreasspinnrock3557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So etwas wäre in Germany „Niemals“ möglich, deshalb freue ich mich, dass es Länder gibt, die so etwas zulassen.

  • @brianjonboeckler2813
    @brianjonboeckler2813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want one, can I put a deposit down?

  • @photoisca7386
    @photoisca7386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you suppose the owner(s) car displays a bumper-sticker "My other car is a Jagdpanther"?

  • @tosiakichono
    @tosiakichono 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1/1 TAMIYA !

  • @opoxious1592
    @opoxious1592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do i see another piece of a Jagdpanther waiting to be restored?
    At 5:45 right side of the sreen.

    • @jonowens460
      @jonowens460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It looks like the front end of one😮

  • @user-pp5rb5cs3c
    @user-pp5rb5cs3c 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Звук БМВ.... радует...;

  • @usmcchet
    @usmcchet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damned sexy ass tank

  • @zigman8550
    @zigman8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful German tank killer

    • @seanmager1168
      @seanmager1168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Only Beautiful 1. all the other german tanks an tank destroyers were Big an Clunky an stuff looking. the Jagdpanther looks Sleek an Cool an Lovely.

  • @wot1fan885
    @wot1fan885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THAT vs Sherman. I would be like HELL NO

    • @Wally-H
      @Wally-H ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sherman’s turret rotates. This is mobile artillery, not a tank for one-on-one combat.

  • @MECTHblN
    @MECTHblN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Вот как должны выглядеть танки а не как в некоторых музеях все прогнившие !

  • @rotesgarados6475
    @rotesgarados6475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a Shooting test

  • @erikahellmann7998
    @erikahellmann7998 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a i
    Original machine motor i inside????

  • @ByMypT
    @ByMypT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Очень медлиный танк.

  • @phillipbrewster6058
    @phillipbrewster6058 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have those been modified with more power or is every thing stock???

  • @danielkrenz4719
    @danielkrenz4719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wenn es an der manövrierfähigkeit mangelt, versucht es mit mehr Drehzahl

  • @vanlendl1
    @vanlendl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone still prefers Porsche?

  • @bobc4368
    @bobc4368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HaVixen

  • @Klendathu_Hotdrop
    @Klendathu_Hotdrop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:02

  • @jansolony
    @jansolony 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Otázka.
    Mal protichodné pásy?

  • @rosiehawtrey
    @rosiehawtrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I seeing Hilary Doyle & Chieftain?