What a great rebuttal! I think so many people are looking for "the latest science," that it's tempting to jump over to each diet that makes the headlines. It's great to see you've highlighted scientists who have put in the work over decades to create a tremendous body of evidence to help us all live healthier lives.
Thanks! I just watched an interview with Paul claiming that the Blue Zones are a myth. So many years of research behind that, so much careful data collection, denied.
@@albertoandrade9807 Which ones? Emma Morano 117yrs Italian woman was documented, the 122 French woman was also, the birth certs that are unreliable are Li Chun Yen 256yrs China, another Chinese lady 130yrs and some others over 120 cause their countries started documenting births after their apparent birth dates and so we dont know for sure.
@@gerofiore9695 oh sorry it was sarcasm. It's a very common tactic by the meat promoters to dismiss the meticulous data of the blue zones as just "unreliable death certificates"
I left veganism due to some of the cultish culture surrounding the diet (and because I had anorexia at the time). I can genuinely say that you may have converted me back down the path (sans anorexia) having found your channel. You’re a breath of fresh air, don’t fear-monger or berate, and your personality is so authentic! Thank you for making these 💕
Thank you, Megs! 😁 That means a great deal to me. I can relate because some of my episodes run on Plant Based News and I’m sometimes taken by surprise in the comment section at how emotional eating patterns can be. Anyway, congrats on overcoming anorexia. I understand that can be tremendously difficult. 🙁
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm vegan and I stay away from the unbearable ones. (Goran is my husband. He's not vegan. Lost my password.) I also do understand that the combination of an eating disorder and a specific diet could do more harm than good. Take care of yourself.
Vegan isnt a diet. You went back to exploiting animals because not exploiting them is a cult? You dont have to attend vegan church. Just dont cause suffering of animals
@@PlantChompers I echo this sentiment. Keep at it! Your content is excellent. I am not vegan (yet), so I don't have a strong bias. I just find you to be articulate, concise and credible. Just subscribed and look forward to more insights
2:45 not so sure about this stat, the egg yolks causing arteries to close up is a false equivelance to meat is it not? did studies find this happened with meat too?
it's funny how most studies trying to prove that eating fat clogs arteries are based on animals (monkeys/lab rats) who actually don't eat meat but just fruit (4 moths a year), nuts and leaves. really bad science
Great video Baldy! I watched that JRE episode and my BS detection meter was triggering constantly!! Glad to hear that Paul has negative science points. That sounds accurate 👏
Man, no kidding. I watched a clip of his this morning where he claims the Blue Zones are a myth. There seems to be no respected scientist or branch of science he can't deny.
@@VeganSanatani for himself veganism is probably no option. But he's had several vegan guests on his show and respected them. He never put them down for their diet choice but rather asked them about it. Same for vaccinations. It's his choice not to take the jab, but he doesn't scoff at people who are vaccinated.
@@PlantChompers If they’re legit. There are numerous reasons for the high percentage of centenarians. Height is definitely one of those reasons, another reason is estrogen, most are women not men. David Sinclair discusses one of the factors each of those areas practices regular fasts and exercises. We're not likely to isolate the "blue zone" effect on a single factor. The research should be taken with a grain of salt.
The hardest thing about science is you need to become a scientist to know which scientist to believe. A lot of people with alphabet soup after their names are schilling these days.
Yeah, and if you are a scientist you lose your mind when a scientist goes to the dark side for the love of money or fame and you can see that's what happened but everyday consumers have no idea because they sound sciency like Paul. I can't believe Paul really understands half the terms he throws around because real scientists usually couch things in more cautious language.
@@PlantChompers No kidding. But then you've been around long enough to know we've had studies touting the benefits of coffee followed by the bad. Now, I think we're back on the good. There was even a cardiac surgeon who believed tomatoes were the Draino for arteries and would help build a diet around them (there's some truth to that-plus they taste good). I guess the other question is how do you get to have alphabet soup titles and degrees and be that far off? Or for that matter, have no advanced degree but an intense desire to know something and be more knowledgeable about your topic?
@@ian408 You know, my graduate school advisor was one of the true greats of the last century, and he taught a class on doing great science. I have never forgotten it all these years later. One of the things I took away is there are a flood of studies but only a few truly great ones. The way the system works, you have to publish often. But great research can take a decade or more. Rather than go on a mad rush to keep up with the flood and by so doing have no in-depth understanding of any of them, figure out what the truly significant ones are and spend the time to truly understand it. There aren't many truly great studies in nutrition (or any field). They take too long and are too expensive. But there are a few. The Adventist 2 study is one, The China Study is another. I don't think anyone has spent a lot of time or money trying to figure out coffee, so I haven't come to know any of those studies. The other day I was fascinated by a study in the Lancet and it took me hours to read and partially understand it. So I zoomed for a couple hours with one of the authors, and now I understand it much better, but not fully. I think it's like really getting to know a country or a person.
@@Baldy Absolutely agree that good science takes time which was where I was going with the coffee thing. I can see questions arising from long term studies but the underlying science should be pretty solid. I do wonder about the data sources. For example, I never there's a place that keeps a lot of tissue, blood, and radiology data. But how do you find enough people to participate in such a long study or collect "the right" samples from a place that provides them? I'm very grateful for the effort you have put into these videos.
@@ian408 If you want a great scientist who explains himself fantastically, I don’t think you can do better than Dr. Li: th-cam.com/video/wlJEGJvI1UA/w-d-xo.html
My jaw about dropped with the blood test stat about insulin. Is that referencing a1c? Do you know of other studies that have looked into this? I moved towards a plant based diet two years ago but that has always been something that's concerned me in the back of my mind, having presumed that when my carb intake went up blood insulin levels also would and there may be consequences from that like atherosclerosis. Would love to see more data that my concerns have been misplaced lol Fantastic channel! Just found you two days ago and the effort you put in really shows
I never count carbs. I do however look at fat intake. diabetes is a collection of metabolic disorders that corelate/are likely caused by excess dietary fat. The elevator pitch goes fat inhibits the uptake of insulin hormone and thus prevents the appropriate storage of blood glucose. As a diabetic, I was vegan when diagnosed. The solution was to just go full whole-foods plant-based. Like many diets I enjoyed immediate weight loss and lowered my HbA1c from 9.5 to 6.5. The lower A1c was likely due to the loss of fat, but was aided by the veey clean and anti-oxidant rich diet I was consuming.
At 74 and feeling great and working my bee hives every day i think i will stay carnivore. By the way i don't eat honey or any food that turns to sugar when it hit my belly button. Eat meat stay strong and live long.
...and I'd add also to stictly avoid process foods and labels that have ingredients that make up a paragraph or looks like reading a chemist's notebook
Sir, you are doing a wonderful job of prioritising scientific data and removing bias and more importantly, being polite and respectful to those with an opposing view.
I love living the Carnivore Lifestyle! I was in a world of pain before I took my husband's suggestion to go Carnivore. Now that I no longer eat plants, I feel so amazing! Since choosing to live the Carnivore Lifestyle, here are just a few benefits I've been experiencing: Debilitating stomach pains-gone, rock solid bowel movements-gone, eczema-gone, joint pain-gone, cavities-gone, brittle hair and nails-gone. Pain is generally the greatest motivator. I was in a world of pain when I was eating plants. Now that the pain is gone, there's no way I'm going back. Even the mere smell of plants makes my stomach turn. I've never felt better in my life than when I've been living the Carnivore Lifestyle (wish I knew about it in college). Meat Makes Us Mighty!
I use hot Fiber Fueled from the library. I too have a book problem!! I did listen to his interview on Rich Roll and I’ve watched this video of yours about four times. Also sent it to some friends. It’s so hard to take through all the muck on social media. I really am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson but strongly disagree with his carnivore message. I understand it works for him but worry about long term effects. Anyway, thank you, Chris, for all the research and a GEM of a video. Your reach may not be as great as you’d like but you’re growing and you’re reaching a LOT of people! I am so grateful for you and think of you often! ❤ Take care!
I still don't understand why T. Colin Campbell would study the effects of dairy derived casein protein and then extend that finding when he is talking about other animal proteins. It's dishonest. I found a study that listed fresh white chicken meat as having a completely neutral or even slightly negative correlation to cancer. The Adventist Health Study #2 showed that Pesco-vegetarian women (who ate fish, milk, and eggs but no red meat or poultry) had an even LOWER risk for all cause mortality, ischemic heart disease, cardiovascular disease, and CANCER than the VEGANS (but you'll never hear that FROM the vegans). Numbers weren't as good for the men, but all-cause mortality was only different by .01.
Never understood how non veg paleo is labelled as ancestral diet? 1) there is a (wrong) assumption that hunter gatherer foragers got their food mostly from meat 2) Before paleolothic age human (or pre-humans) had been alive and kicking for hundreds of thousands of years - what were they consuming?
I watched a Chaffee video and didn't see much science in it. There is no evidence diets high in fat and meat are safe or healthy in the long run. Who cares if you feel great for six years if it dramatically ups your risks of heart disease and cancer?
You cannot tell me that my improved health, mood, weight, energy and head clarity after doing a carnivore diet is a sign of me not being healthy. What, all based on your scientific theory that meat is bad? OK, then you go follow your science and I'll look after my own body the way I know works for me and many many others.
@@PlantChompers did she see health improvements withing less than a week of smoking cigarettes? I did when I started my diet though, I couldn't believe it. And still I'm feeling better and better. I use to be a dedicated health fanatic vegan. I had badly dry skin, muscle pains, bone crackling, mood and energy swings, stomach ulcer etc. Now all that is long past for me including the ulcer. Plus I've lost loads of fat. I look much younger and feel like I felt when I was in my mid 20s. So again, you can't tell me I'm unhealthy basing your judgement only on a theory. You see, I followed "the science" about veganism also only to realize that most of what we are told by some rich and greedy type, is mearly to mislead the people. Like with everything in our lives. Take your mom for example who probably thought that smoking is great for her, which the people in power and the doctors were saying. All to make tonnes of money on illness. Evil. Look at the last two years we had and all the lies. We all followed "the science" told by someone who will benefit from that. So sometimes you need to put the book down and start thinking for yourself, which I wish to all who read this. Kindest wishes
@@rubinbesureis9943 Amen!! Couldn’t have said it better. I am reluctantly and cautiously going carnivore and will be following up with bloodwork to keep tabs on it (was vegan for six months in the past but generally at a veggie heavy diet and made amazing salads) But must say since doing so I can already feel my gut healing and chronic pain getting better. I don’t think the solution is to be carnivore fir ever , I believe in seasonal approach, but I will not stand for vegan propaganda or any kind of propaganda for that matter. No more! It turns out(unfortunately) that if there’s money involved a scientist can come to any conclusion his sponser wants him to.
@@flugmodus9214 I'm glad to hear you are feeling better now. My gut also feels much better. I'm not bloating anymore and as I mentioned my ulcer is pretty much gone. Or at least I'm not suffering or even ever thinking about it. Which is a miracle. Yet, I don't think this is for everyone. I think we are all different. We all have different genetics. Some tolerate the sun better than others. Some get balled quicker than others etc. If you read Steven Druker's book "Altered Genes, Twister Truth", which is about GMO's, you'll see how prominent scientists can be bought and the research manipulated. It's astounding. Just look at Dr Fauci for example.
@@rubinbesureis9943 yes individuality is important and listening to your body(unless it’s telling you to eat processed junk, then it’s lying lol). And ancestry must play a role, if you come from wat,er climates where more vegetation was available etc. Thank you for the recommendation, sounds interesting All the best😊🙏🏼
I have to say that I really enjoy your style of video and appreciate how much work you put in to present things in an accessible way... BUT I do have to say it really feels inauthentic when you keep calling Blue Zone diets "plant based" when that's just not accurate. I grew up in southern Italy, where we often ate prosciutto, steak, all types of fish, squid, and even horse on a regular basis. I've been all over Italy and seen the same. We even have "tripperie" which are Italian meat stores where all the organs and animal parts are hanging on display all over Italy! We're not "plant based". We eat everything. As do the Greeks and Japanese, the other Blue Zones. Furthermore, you must have missed the latest evidence about how Hong Kong climbed to #1 in life expectancy, after decades of increasing meat consumption- which is now 4x as much as Western countries. Yet, their heart disease and cancer rates are much better than ours... According to this video, they should all be falling over and dying left and right... But that's not the case. Why might that be?
Exactly, as a Greek woman myself I can attest to that. Funny quote from a movie featuring a Greek family dinner: Guest: no thank you I am vegetarian Greek woman host: no problem we have chicken 😅 All blue zones in Greece eat alote of meat but many vegetables as well. I am always annoyed about this guy’s snarky presentations, yet I have not unsubscribed, bcs I am interested in truth and try to keep opposing opinions around on every subject, But this is just vegan propaganda.
It seems data like Hong Kong's can be explained by several factors. In this case, the increase in life expectancy probably goes hand in hand with Hong Kong improving lots of aspects that influence life expectancy: better medical facilities, more access to modern medicine, people having better exercising habits, etc. While, on the other hand the increase of meat consumption is something that happened in the latest decades and so we will require some decades to see the long term effects for this on population.
@@muixameta Hong Kong's health trends date back to the 50s, so if you think 70 years isn't long enough to see evidence in health trends, we might as well throw away all current health knowledge since that's about all we have. And in that case, there shouldn't be anything to worry about since that's roughly the span of an entire human life. Most experts say that 70-80% of health is diet, while medicine, fitness, and lifestyle makeup 20-30%. Many other countries have the same level of fitness, medicine, and healthcare as Hong Kong, but live much shorter lives so the logical conclusion would be that their diet is actually improving their longevity... The oldest members in their current society are the ones who are raising the longevity curve, so that's exactly the people who have been eating meat for decades and are currently seeing its effects on their health!
@@danytalksmusic "Hong Kong's health trends date back to the 50s" And the traditional HK diet was heavily plant based meaning people who are 80-100 today grew up on diets dominated by plant foods. Meat gradually ramped up in later decades, then seemingly doubled since the early 2000s, but there is evidence that HK's recent/current meat consumption numbers are vastly inflated as there is massive meat smuggling going from HK into China. Heart disease develops steadily over 50-70 years, and most folks in HK were eating MUCH less meat for most of the last 50-70 years, and as noted above, current numbers are questionable. HK is also super high SES, great health care, great respect for the elderly and very livable. Meanwhile rates of major chronic diseases have been ramping up dramatically in Asia as they have increased consumption of animal and processed foods dramatically. Two best predictor variables for the huge rise of dementia in Asia? Animal fat and added sugar.
Just want vegans to know that after 2 years of a plant based diet I did my own n=1 study and corrected the following health problems with only diet, no supplements or exercise: obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany) heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness 5+ Years on the carnivore lifestyle now :) Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
1 cow can feed a family of 5 for close to a year. meat can be sustainable. and the beast way to steer food production in that direction is to support regenerative grazing with your dollars. monoculture is far more toxic for soil, co2 and planet than ruminates grazing that same land left as native grasses AKA an intact ecosystem. factory farming is the problem, monoculture crops are the problem. meat in and of itself is not the issue when it comes to ecological health
1 cow on average will net you between 500,000 and 800,000 calories. The average adult male needs between 2000 and 2500 calories a day (more if doing a lot of strenuous activities). So the average adult male needs between 730,000 and 912,500. Which means, 1 cow will feed 1 man for 1 year. It is estimated that a family of 4 require around 2,2 million calories a year.
Unless you’re saying that your grandparents were pure carnivores, and I really doubt they were, your statement doesn’t make any logical sense in this context.
This video didn’t age One year later and recommending low carb diets is actually supported by the AHA. They rattle on about LDL but I didn’t hear a single mention about Triglycerides. All of those videos were taken out of context, appeals to authority, not mentioning the short comings of epidemiology; I could go on...
"This video didn’t age One year later and recommending low carb diets is actually supported by the AHA." You mean the same organization who lets corporate funders help write nutrition fact sheets for them? All that means is some low-carb folks seized power there--or at least power over one white paper. There is no long-term data proving high fat diets are super healthy and safe in the long run--and long run data is all that ultimately matters. Meanwhile, all the best overall long-term results for obesity, diabetes, heart disease and more have been achieved on WFPB diets that were LOWER in fat than American's faux "low-fat diets." Unless we find keto can do an end-run around the usual patterns in the data, after you control for other variables, the research clearly shows that diets higher in saturated animal fat are linked to more disease.
Love your content and joking manner! Really well done, all around. You may notice I'm slowly yet steadily exploring your content. Thanks a ton! Haha :)
I've been watching a few of your videos and I just feel like a younger version of you (geoscientist, vegan for the planet)--and then I saw the Tern cargo bike. Did you have any clones commissioned? I love these videos. Keep it up!
are you going to retract the “viruses come from animals” comments that seem pervasive in your videos? if you have, i apologize that i have not seen it yet.
I just watched Jordan Peterson talking about his 5 year long meat only diet, which has 1000nds of applauding comments and success stories. Really confusing. (I’m eating mostly starch based, HCLF)
It's a minor point, but it should be noted that mushrooms are their own kingdom, not plant or animal. The section on them in the Saladino book is muddled, although I would risk making a "straw man attack" by focusing on it, since it's not really central to his argument.
9:45 That calculator seems to be flawed. I put in my last total cholesterol level and it rejected it because it's not between 130-199! Additionally, some other questions do not allow for an accurate representation of the answer, resulting in an estimate and advice that are far too vague and don't actually take into account the answers. For example, I have never inhaled tobacco (or other) smoke, but it still advised me not to smoke. Now, I can see an argument why they would still present that I shouldn't smoke - in case I don't know - but they didn't present any facts to reinforce why (CVD, cancer, toxic chemicals, addiction, COPD, emphysema, etc.).
I wrote this song about a carnivore, I hope you like it: th-cam.com/video/0JyM4pNWFJI/w-d-xo.html I'm a carnivore, hear me roar I eat meat from dusk 'til dawn. No greens, no beans no leafy scenes, Just steak, ribs, and eg-eggs bacon dreams. Oh, my diet's grand, I'm a meat-eatin' man, I'll have another burger, if I can. But my heart's a-flutter, and my gut's in a clutter, From all this red meat, I'm starting to stut stut tut tut tut ...stutter! I scoff at salads (I laugh at fruit) Give me a T-bone (that's my pursuit) My cholesterol's soaring (my arteries clogging) But I'll never admit that my health's a-falling!!!! Oh, my diet's graaand (I'm a meat-eatin' man) I'll have another steak (if I can) But my waistline's expanding (my doctor's demanding) That I lay off the meat!!! but I'm still standiiiing!!!!! I'll grill up a sausag (sizzle up some ham) I'll devour a prime rib (don't give a damn) But my body's protesting (my health's manifesting) In ways I never imagined it's truly arrestiiing!!!! I'll chew on a brisket, munch on some jerky, But my digestion's gone wonky (oh, what a turkey!) My kidneys are groaning, my gut's in rebellion, But I'll stick to my meat!!! it's my culinary heaveeeen! Oh, my diet's grand, I'm a meat-eatin' man, Having another hotdog just becasue i caan But my doctor's despairing (my health's beyond repairing) From my carnivorous ways! there's no escapiiiing!!! As I marinate my steak (in honey-glaze so sweet) With spices that dance (and a funky beet) My taste buds tingle (with every succulent bite) But guilt starts creeping (by the kitchen light)
duh the game we are playing is not losing weight, fat or feeling good. The game we are playing is staying alive healthily. If I smoke and I feel good, should I continue doing it? duh
@@lenguyenngoc479 you really comparing losing bodyfat to smoking cigarettes lmao, it's alot healthier to lose fat than to try to maintain a higher bodyfat percentage.
@@wesleygaitan... It was you that allowed/brought in the cigarette comparison when you implied that you feel good doing what you're doing , it allows a parallel reasoning like me saying a heroin addict feels great when they're doing heroin doesn't mean they're healthy or that heroine os good for them.... There are plenty of unhealthy ways to lose fat that can be as detrimental or worse than having too much fat... You can improve different biomarkers in bad ways... You seem to try to be playing this game you don't really understand the rules of... ;-)
I'm learning that a plant predominant diet is best, like you said. I'm starting the path of eating mostly plants with daily eggs and weekly fish, to prevent deficiencies. That seems to be the best diet according to the studies you read here.
Well done. Now look at cutting.v out eggs for the cholesterol to drop even further. Tricky to do? Just reduce week by week. Replace with beans, lentils, tofu, seitan, nuts, seeds. Still tricky. Watch videos documentary showing yiu how beautiful baby boy chick's are minced alive!!!! Absolute stuff of horror films. Both of those factors should help
@@panes840 I do not have a cholesterol problem. And I do not believe a whole life of 100% vegan diet is ideal. Science knowledge is not yet complete. The scriptures and religious leaders that "I" believe (you might believe differently) does not advocate for a completely animal free diet - it says to eat the flesh of beasts of the field and fowls of the air "sparingly". If curious, search the code of health given to Joseph Smith in the mid 1880's, called The Word of Wisdom.
@@greentree_ thank you and glad to hear your cholesterol is fine for now, however, I am not going to let man made religion dictate my choices. Especially as the word dominion has bedn manipulated to meet man's selfish desires and clearly causing immense suffering to any a imal under any circumstances is not even an ethical concern Nice narcissm
Where’s the data on carnivore diet? You haven’t presented any evidence showing a pure carnivore diet is less beneficial to humans. Epidemiology can’t be used because it can’t be ruled out that a combination of carbs, fat and protein is the problem, not the fat and protein alone. Besides that there’s a healthy user bias in the epidemiological data. People who eat plant based tend to do it because of the belief of it being healthy and they are the group that tend to exercise more and smoke less. We need more data to say anything definitive about a pure carnivore diet.
Once again, a well constructed video. Good job. However I think a major point that was missed was Paul's idea of healthy user bias. Most of the studies you have quoted do not seem to take this into consideration. It is true that a consumer of more red meat will live an u healthier lifestyle. This will result in some convenient associations, but not much casality. I would love for you to get on his podcast. Maybe if you get a few more subs in the future.
If fiber fuel would only put the recipes in grams it would elevate that to a true cook book and not just a health book. I hope he improves recipes and books out another book in grams.
Hahaha, that raw yogurt is probably healthy! We make home made yogurt from soy milk and I love it. Congrats on achieving 90 percent plant based. It's a great achievement. 💪👏
The last sentence is very true. In fact... "Eating a vegan diet could be the “single biggest way” to reduce your environmental impact on earth, a new study suggests. Researchers at the University of Oxford found that cutting meat and dairy products from your diet could reduce an individual's carbon footprint from food by up to 73 per cent.Sep 24, 2020" Link on my channel under "About."
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford."
I always say it, whenever i get unhealthy I do not get there by eating plants fruits or even meat. A balance of fuits veg and meat as well as cutting out alcohol, fizzy drinks and sugary sweets and drinking more water will do anyone the world of good. Carnivores seem unhealthy and Vegans also seem unhealthy (too skinny and frail and sick all the time, I know because I used to be vegan along with a lot of friends who all quit due to health issues)
@@PlantChompers yep except you have real evidence smoking will cause cancer in people but you don't have any evidence that people who only eat organic grass fed beef, organic veggies, and fruit get cancer because of the meat. if you have a real study that meets those parameters post it
I would love to hear this white guy of obvious European descent talk about his diet and especially avocados about 300 years ago and in the winter. It would be very interesting to see what he would actually eat back then. He might have actually been more knowledgeable about natural human diet.
Ha, there's no way plants can be good for humans after all of that evolutionary divergence! As for ruminants, well, they must have been plants recently, who knows.
It’s very disingenuous of you to point at James Hansen’s arrests as being the effect of the coal and oil industry lobbying against his research, as if big money controls the police. He was arrested during demonstrations. It’s probably the desired effect, because the arrest of notorious public figures such as him makes it to the news outlets, raising awareness for his cause. I am both positively amazed by your channel (exposing this ludicrous passage in Saladino’s book, that’s an insane eye-opener on the guy) but also disappointed to see that you follow some of the same tactics as the disingenuous people you try to counter. Maybe I’m missing something, but otherwise, I sincerely hope you can wane out this bad side of your content, so that we are left with the good (which is insanely good and I can’t thank you enough for the amount of work that you’re doing.)
Some sheep agreed to start eating meat because they wanted to be big and strong like lions. They quickly died. Some lions agreed to start eating only grass when they saw the sheep died from eating meat, then the lions quickly died too. Humans are omnivores. Yes we can survive on extreme diets like veganism and carnivory, but we evolved to eat a little of everything.
I have quite a bit of respect for him. I read his book last year and have listened to a few of his lectures. He's definitely in the land of Atkins, but he's helped improve that dietary pattern and even has vegan Akin options.
I do not I do not think the science is settled on this. I beleive we will learn more benefits from a mostly carnivore diet. I eat %80 high fat and muscle meat. %10 veggies and %10 fruit. The best thing to do is eat whole foods. Single ingredient foods. If it comes in a package or prepared for you don’t eat it.
seriously? I don't understand the conclusion that if 2 things are very different that there's no way that both can be right. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. There is no single one-size-fits-all answer to anything. Both plant based and animal based can work and there's evidence for both to be true at the same time because people are different. Besides, Paul Saladino does eat fruit. The main takeaway from any of the people he mentions in this video is that we should probably stay away from all of the hyper-palatable processed foods that are marketed to us. Clean ingredients, either plant or animal are going to be a lot better for you and we should be able to decide for ourselves which one we choose if not both. Some people have health issues that can play a part in which choice they make and I don't see why so many people decide to judge them for it.
The problem with all of the people who praise and follow Paul, is cognitive dissonance. People like the taste of steak and butter and fat and generally don't like vegetables and so they make decisions that , I think a lot of them, deep down, know are risky, but they look for any excuse or data to keep eating that way because its more enjoyable.
Paul "Salad" is not a medical doctor. His degree is in psychology. He is also not representative of the average American. He works out way more! He is not someone I would recommend following when it comes to the carnivore diet, as that is not what he now advocates. Bottom-line is that hating on Paul doesn't help your argument. Or as it would be termed nowadays: That aged badly.
An interesting development with Paul Saladino is that he is no longer purely carnivore: he now includes honey and fruit. He made the change after he health began to decline on the diet (feeling less energetic, lower testosterone, sleep issues, and rising blood sugar I think, among other things). This shift has been mirrored by others on the diet, with many people finding that (shockingly!) their bodies need some level of carbohydrates to function well. Having been on the carnivore diet (and ruined my health while on it), I can say that the initial benefits make 'true believers' of many people. Unfortunately, the diet is a trap of sorts: the longer you are on it (and maybe the more damaged/deficient you are when you start), the *more* sensitive you become to non-animal foods. Perhaps you become more deficient in certain vitamins/minerals, weakening your digestion. Perhaps the lack of fiber changes your gut microbiome so drastically that it's just not as equipped to digest plant food as well. In any case, this makes leaving the diet seem like a bad option ("I'm in pain when I eat plant foods, I don't want to live like that!") and reinforces the carnivore diet lore that it is the evolutionarily optimal diet ("See! I can't eat rice anymore. I'm clearly running so cleanly that my body rejects toxic plant foods, it must be because it knows they are bad for me!"). Then there is the fact that dieters are warned that there may be prolonged 'adaptation' to the carnivore diet (similar to the 'keto flu'). The result? All negative symptoms can be chalked up to 'adaptation'/keto flu, and considered transitory: "So, feeling badly on the diet? Well, maybe you've just not adapted to it! Take an electrolyte supplement and give it another few weeks. Or a month. Or six. You're just not adapted yet." I guess my point is that it's very difficult to 'debunk' the diet to people who are on it. They usually have to start feeling negative symptoms first AND ALSO lose faith in the influencers/literature surrounding it (so they won't just chalk up their negative symptoms to adaption/wrong protein to fat ratio, etc).
One of the things I like about Dr Saladino is his willingness to change. And be open about the change. I have no respect for anyone who espouses a particular thing, realizes it doesn’t work long term, but continues the same narrative while quietly doing something else behind the scenes.
@@doubles1545 Agreed. Of all the big names in the carnivore sphere, I have some respect for Saladino for not only acknowledging that he was having problems on the diet, but for adding back carbohydrates AND encouraging others to do so. A common mentality in the community is that if you go back to eating "sugar" it's because you are undisciplined and just can't hack it without carbs, so you gave in. Saladino is at least trying to combat that mentality now by providing an explanation as to why carbs might not be evil after all. Still, he did lead a lot of people down the wrong path for years before changing his tune. And you can bet that had he not experienced the negative symptoms that he did, he would still be telling people that all they need to be healthy is animal foods, dismissing anecdotes from people whose health tanked on carnivore as liars or not doing it right.
@@PlantChompers Thanks. High B12 content in carnivore diets being the reason that carnivores initially feel so well is not a theory I'd heard before. Very interesting.
@Axileus “Alternatively, I am still stuck in the bubble and that makes it impossible for me to do anything but regurgitate the same tired phrases, even in the face of direct contradiction.” 😂😂 go away, cultist. I lived it
Man Baldy, you are coming in hard with facts! I love it. So many people push agendas with out any facts, MAYBE an article from a outlying blog or something.. but bringing all the scientific studies into your argument is what more people need to do. You are making me excited about being vegan again and I started back in 2009!
Thanks, Stephen! My heroes are scientists who do hard, timeless studies that make a difference. They usually labor in obscurity because their science is all-consuming. But the hired guns for corporations who call their firms think tanks and act as experts...do no science. They spend full time making media appearances and crafting viral tweets, selling doubt about science. And they fool most of the people most of the time. Argh, it kills me.
This channel and your videos pack so much science, historical data, analyses, wit, and class, yet you somehow manage to keep it real and easily absorbed.. Just like plants :). Many thanks!
Okay, so basicaly when someone feels good on a certain diet doesn´t mean it is good for him? Those anecdotes of famous people who died of heart attack has nothing to do with sientific point of view. That is just using it to make people doubt about them selfves. After a year beaing vegan I´ve lost so much of my body mass and my gut was in horrible condition - constipation, dhiaria, awfull smell. Not to say that in my 30´s I felt like a 60 year old man. And no, I wasn´t eating junk food (almost always whole good quality food). And beacause I was brain washed by vegan movement, I was overlooking that I was in a degradation. Even my family and friends were really worried about me. Didn´t matter to me, just save the planet and don´t hurt any living animal (except it´s not true at all). Well I definately hurt mysefl. So how can this be advised as a healthy option if can hurt someone so much? Just asking. So now I eat meat, and eggs and butter and milk (mostly in a raw form - yes even meat), some fruits, some veggies but very occasionaly because now I know what they did to me. I did some more research on micronutrients, toxins, aniturients and so on. The difference in how I feel is way to significant to actualy believe that I am doint something wrong. Sure I might be, but as they always said, trust your gut, and my decison is to folow it literally. Also, you are saing that pandemics are caused by animal agriculture, like there is only one way of raising animals. If animals would be in natural enviroment on pastures, nothing like that would ever happen. But hey it´s nice to say something that will support your theories. Just listen people, never stop listening to your intuition and always reconsider what you are doing is not against your nature. Once you follow someone elses ideas, it´s not gonna end well for you. Peace
Thanks Chris. I agree with the many others that appreciate your contributions to sciences-based communication on this important topic. And ... I appreciate that you make it entertaining. Always look forward to more.
The most advanced civilizations across time and geography were predominately plant based. The longest living societies are primarily plant based, most elite athletes are heavily plant based, science backs this up as presented in this as always great video. So I fail to understand how all of the sudden plants are trying to kill us and deem it as inferior.
What a great rebuttal! I think so many people are looking for "the latest science," that it's tempting to jump over to each diet that makes the headlines. It's great to see you've highlighted scientists who have put in the work over decades to create a tremendous body of evidence to help us all live healthier lives.
Thanks! I just watched an interview with Paul claiming that the Blue Zones are a myth. So many years of research behind that, so much careful data collection, denied.
@@PlantChompers the death certificates are unreliable!
@@albertoandrade9807 Which ones? Emma Morano 117yrs Italian woman was documented, the 122 French woman was also, the birth certs that are unreliable are Li Chun Yen 256yrs China, another Chinese lady 130yrs and some others over 120 cause their countries started documenting births after their apparent birth dates and so we dont know for sure.
@@gerofiore9695 oh sorry it was sarcasm. It's a very common tactic by the meat promoters to dismiss the meticulous data of the blue zones as just "unreliable death certificates"
@@albertoandrade9807 Oh hehe I see. ;)
You are waay to underrated. This is such a good video
I left veganism due to some of the cultish culture surrounding the diet (and because I had anorexia at the time). I can genuinely say that you may have converted me back down the path (sans anorexia) having found your channel. You’re a breath of fresh air, don’t fear-monger or berate, and your personality is so authentic! Thank you for making these 💕
Thank you, Megs! 😁 That means a great deal to me. I can relate because some of my episodes run on Plant Based News and I’m sometimes taken by surprise in the comment section at how emotional eating patterns can be. Anyway, congrats on overcoming anorexia. I understand that can be tremendously difficult. 🙁
I agree with you, some vegans are OTT and lose many people with their bullying, I left also cause of this but came back for my health.
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm vegan and I stay away from the unbearable ones. (Goran is my husband. He's not vegan. Lost my password.) I also do understand that the combination of an eating disorder and a specific diet could do more harm than good. Take care of yourself.
Vegan isnt a diet. You went back to exploiting animals because not exploiting them is a cult? You dont have to attend vegan church. Just dont cause suffering of animals
I mean that's like saying I re-started fighting dogs, because of the cultish dog lovers...
Who's the real victim in this scenario?
Here from PNB video. Just discovering your channel and subscribed. Wonderful content and personality ! Thanks
Oh my word just discovered the channel, soo good 😍😍 Your content is seriously one of the best
Thank you so much!! I was worried when the channel wasn't getting much traction and I thought maybe I'm bad at this. You made my day. ❤
@@PlantChompers I echo this sentiment. Keep at it! Your content is excellent. I am not vegan (yet), so I don't have a strong bias. I just find you to be articulate, concise and credible. Just subscribed and look forward to more insights
2:45 not so sure about this stat, the egg yolks causing arteries to close up is a false equivelance to meat is it not? did studies find this happened with meat too?
it's funny how most studies trying to prove that eating fat clogs arteries are based on animals (monkeys/lab rats) who actually don't eat meat but just fruit (4 moths a year), nuts and leaves. really bad science
Great channel! Thanks for your hard work! (I’ve been vegan for 23 years; one of the luckiest decisions I’ve ever made.)
Great video Baldy! I watched that JRE episode and my BS detection meter was triggering constantly!! Glad to hear that Paul has negative science points. That sounds accurate 👏
Man, no kidding. I watched a clip of his this morning where he claims the Blue Zones are a myth. There seems to be no respected scientist or branch of science he can't deny.
JRE is probably the greatest anti vegan out there.. if he only had a proper functioning brain, now he is an anti vaxxer as well.
@@VeganSanatani for himself veganism is probably no option. But he's had several vegan guests on his show and respected them. He never put them down for their diet choice but rather asked them about it. Same for vaccinations. It's his choice not to take the jab, but he doesn't scoff at people who are vaccinated.
@@PlantChompers
If they’re legit. There are numerous reasons for the high percentage of centenarians. Height is definitely one of those reasons, another reason is estrogen, most are women not men. David Sinclair discusses one of the factors each of those areas practices regular fasts and exercises.
We're not likely to isolate the "blue zone" effect on a single factor. The research should be taken with a grain of salt.
So much information here. I learned a lot, thank you!
Thanks for watching and sharing on Reddit!
Great informative video. I arrived here from PBN!
Ditto!
The hardest thing about science is you need to become a scientist to know which scientist to believe. A lot of people with alphabet soup after their names are schilling these days.
Yeah, and if you are a scientist you lose your mind when a scientist goes to the dark side for the love of money or fame and you can see that's what happened but everyday consumers have no idea because they sound sciency like Paul. I can't believe Paul really understands half the terms he throws around because real scientists usually couch things in more cautious language.
@@PlantChompers No kidding. But then you've been around long enough to know we've had studies touting the benefits of coffee followed by the bad. Now, I think we're back on the good. There was even a cardiac surgeon who believed tomatoes were the Draino for arteries and would help build a diet around them (there's some truth to that-plus they taste good). I guess the other question is how do you get to have alphabet soup titles and degrees and be that far off? Or for that matter, have no advanced degree but an intense desire to know something and be more knowledgeable about your topic?
@@ian408 You know, my graduate school advisor was one of the true greats of the last century, and he taught a class on doing great science. I have never forgotten it all these years later. One of the things I took away is there are a flood of studies but only a few truly great ones. The way the system works, you have to publish often. But great research can take a decade or more. Rather than go on a mad rush to keep up with the flood and by so doing have no in-depth understanding of any of them, figure out what the truly significant ones are and spend the time to truly understand it. There aren't many truly great studies in nutrition (or any field). They take too long and are too expensive. But there are a few. The Adventist 2 study is one, The China Study is another. I don't think anyone has spent a lot of time or money trying to figure out coffee, so I haven't come to know any of those studies.
The other day I was fascinated by a study in the Lancet and it took me hours to read and partially understand it. So I zoomed for a couple hours with one of the authors, and now I understand it much better, but not fully. I think it's like really getting to know a country or a person.
@@Baldy Absolutely agree that good science takes time which was where I was going with the coffee thing. I can see questions arising from long term studies but the underlying science should be pretty solid. I do wonder about the data sources. For example, I never there's a place that keeps a lot of tissue, blood, and radiology data. But how do you find enough people to participate in such a long study or collect "the right" samples from a place that provides them?
I'm very grateful for the effort you have put into these videos.
@@ian408 If you want a great scientist who explains himself fantastically, I don’t think you can do better than Dr. Li: th-cam.com/video/wlJEGJvI1UA/w-d-xo.html
I have been working my way through all of your vids recently, and this channel is fantastic. Thank you for putting easily absorbed rebuttals out.
My jaw about dropped with the blood test stat about insulin. Is that referencing a1c? Do you know of other studies that have looked into this? I moved towards a plant based diet two years ago but that has always been something that's concerned me in the back of my mind, having presumed that when my carb intake went up blood insulin levels also would and there may be consequences from that like atherosclerosis. Would love to see more data that my concerns have been misplaced lol Fantastic channel! Just found you two days ago and the effort you put in really shows
I never count carbs. I do however look at fat intake.
diabetes is a collection of metabolic disorders that corelate/are likely caused by excess dietary fat. The elevator pitch goes fat inhibits the uptake of insulin hormone and thus prevents the appropriate storage of blood glucose.
As a diabetic, I was vegan when diagnosed. The solution was to just go full whole-foods plant-based. Like many diets I enjoyed immediate weight loss and lowered my HbA1c from 9.5 to 6.5. The lower A1c was likely due to the loss of fat, but was aided by the veey clean and anti-oxidant rich diet I was consuming.
At 74 and feeling great and working my bee hives every day i think i will stay carnivore. By the way i don't eat honey or any food that turns to sugar when it hit my belly button. Eat meat stay strong and live long.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read as an omnivore.
@@DidyourmomtwiceDementia is kicking in .
Really enjoyed your work you put into these videos. You make a lot of sense and have facts to back it up. I’m leaning to more plant dominant diet
If you can't avoid meat.. just follow a Mediterranean diet
...and I'd add also to stictly avoid process foods and labels that have ingredients that make up a paragraph or looks like reading a chemist's notebook
The problem is with Farm raised and factory processed animals. Not the naturally harvested.
Sir, you are doing a wonderful job of prioritising scientific data and removing bias and more importantly, being polite and respectful to those with an opposing view.
Chris really really hates The Big Fat surpise.
I love living the Carnivore Lifestyle! I was in a world of pain before I took my husband's suggestion to go Carnivore. Now that I no longer eat plants, I feel so amazing! Since choosing to live the Carnivore Lifestyle, here are just a few benefits I've been experiencing: Debilitating stomach pains-gone, rock solid bowel movements-gone, eczema-gone, joint pain-gone, cavities-gone, brittle hair and nails-gone. Pain is generally the greatest motivator. I was in a world of pain when I was eating plants. Now that the pain is gone, there's no way I'm going back. Even the mere smell of plants makes my stomach turn. I've never felt better in my life than when I've been living the Carnivore Lifestyle (wish I knew about it in college). Meat Makes Us Mighty!
I use hot Fiber Fueled from the library. I too have a book problem!! I did listen to his interview on Rich Roll and I’ve watched this video of yours about four times. Also sent it to some friends. It’s so hard to take through all the muck on social media. I really am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson but strongly disagree with his carnivore message. I understand it works for him but worry about long term effects. Anyway, thank you, Chris, for all the research and a GEM of a video. Your reach may not be as great as you’d like but you’re growing and you’re reaching a LOT of people! I am so grateful for you and think of you often! ❤ Take care!
I still don't understand why T. Colin Campbell would study the effects of dairy derived casein protein and then extend that finding when he is talking about other animal proteins. It's dishonest. I found a study that listed fresh white chicken meat as having a completely neutral or even slightly negative correlation to cancer. The Adventist Health Study #2 showed that Pesco-vegetarian women (who ate fish, milk, and eggs but no red meat or poultry) had an even LOWER risk for all cause mortality, ischemic heart disease, cardiovascular disease, and CANCER than the VEGANS (but you'll never hear that FROM the vegans). Numbers weren't as good for the men, but all-cause mortality was only different by .01.
Never understood how non veg paleo is labelled as ancestral diet?
1) there is a (wrong) assumption that hunter gatherer foragers got their food mostly from meat
2) Before paleolothic age human (or pre-humans) had been alive and kicking for hundreds of thousands of years - what were they consuming?
Would love to see you debating Dr Anthony Chaffee.
No? Didnt think so...
I watched a Chaffee video and didn't see much science in it. There is no evidence diets high in fat and meat are safe or healthy in the long run. Who cares if you feel great for six years if it dramatically ups your risks of heart disease and cancer?
You cannot tell me that my improved health, mood, weight, energy and head clarity after doing a carnivore diet is a sign of me not being healthy. What, all based on your scientific theory that meat is bad?
OK, then you go follow your science and I'll look after my own body the way I know works for me and many many others.
My mom said those exact words for 20 years about smoking. Most people did. It helps you lose weight, relax, etc.
@@PlantChompers did she see health improvements withing less than a week of smoking cigarettes?
I did when I started my diet though, I couldn't believe it. And still I'm feeling better and better. I use to be a dedicated health fanatic vegan. I had badly dry skin, muscle pains, bone crackling, mood and energy swings, stomach ulcer etc. Now all that is long past for me including the ulcer. Plus I've lost loads of fat. I look much younger and feel like I felt when I was in my mid 20s.
So again, you can't tell me I'm unhealthy basing your judgement only on a theory.
You see, I followed "the science" about veganism also only to realize that most of what we are told by some rich and greedy type, is mearly to mislead the people. Like with everything in our lives. Take your mom for example who probably thought that smoking is great for her, which the people in power and the doctors were saying. All to make tonnes of money on illness. Evil.
Look at the last two years we had and all the lies. We all followed "the science" told by someone who will benefit from that.
So sometimes you need to put the book down and start thinking for yourself, which I wish to all who read this.
Kindest wishes
@@rubinbesureis9943 Amen!! Couldn’t have said it better. I am reluctantly and cautiously going carnivore and will be following up with bloodwork to keep tabs on it (was vegan for six months in the past but generally at a veggie heavy diet and made amazing salads)
But must say since doing so I can already feel my gut healing and chronic pain getting better.
I don’t think the solution is to be carnivore fir ever , I believe in seasonal approach, but I will not stand for vegan propaganda or any kind of propaganda for that matter. No more!
It turns out(unfortunately) that if there’s money involved a scientist can come to any conclusion his sponser wants him to.
@@flugmodus9214 I'm glad to hear you are feeling better now. My gut also feels much better. I'm not bloating anymore and as I mentioned my ulcer is pretty much gone. Or at least I'm not suffering or even ever thinking about it. Which is a miracle.
Yet, I don't think this is for everyone. I think we are all different. We all have different genetics. Some tolerate the sun better than others. Some get balled quicker than others etc.
If you read Steven Druker's book "Altered Genes, Twister Truth", which is about GMO's, you'll see how prominent scientists can be bought and the research manipulated. It's astounding. Just look at Dr Fauci for example.
@@rubinbesureis9943 yes individuality is important and listening to your body(unless it’s telling you to eat processed junk, then it’s lying lol). And ancestry must play a role, if you come from wat,er climates where more vegetation was available etc.
Thank you for the recommendation, sounds interesting
All the best😊🙏🏼
I have to say that I really enjoy your style of video and appreciate how much work you put in to present things in an accessible way... BUT I do have to say it really feels inauthentic when you keep calling Blue Zone diets "plant based" when that's just not accurate. I grew up in southern Italy, where we often ate prosciutto, steak, all types of fish, squid, and even horse on a regular basis. I've been all over Italy and seen the same. We even have "tripperie" which are Italian meat stores where all the organs and animal parts are hanging on display all over Italy! We're not "plant based". We eat everything. As do the Greeks and Japanese, the other Blue Zones.
Furthermore, you must have missed the latest evidence about how Hong Kong climbed to #1 in life expectancy, after decades of increasing meat consumption- which is now 4x as much as Western countries. Yet, their heart disease and cancer rates are much better than ours... According to this video, they should all be falling over and dying left and right... But that's not the case. Why might that be?
Exactly, as a Greek woman myself I can attest to that. Funny quote from a movie featuring a Greek family dinner:
Guest: no thank you I am vegetarian
Greek woman host: no problem we have chicken
😅
All blue zones in Greece eat alote of meat but many vegetables as well.
I am always annoyed about this guy’s snarky presentations, yet I have not unsubscribed, bcs I am interested in truth and try to keep opposing opinions around on every subject,
But this is just vegan propaganda.
It seems data like Hong Kong's can be explained by several factors. In this case, the increase in life expectancy probably goes hand in hand with Hong Kong improving lots of aspects that influence life expectancy: better medical facilities, more access to modern medicine, people having better exercising habits, etc. While, on the other hand the increase of meat consumption is something that happened in the latest decades and so we will require some decades to see the long term effects for this on population.
@@muixameta Hong Kong's health trends date back to the 50s, so if you think 70 years isn't long enough to see evidence in health trends, we might as well throw away all current health knowledge since that's about all we have. And in that case, there shouldn't be anything to worry about since that's roughly the span of an entire human life.
Most experts say that 70-80% of health is diet, while medicine, fitness, and lifestyle makeup 20-30%. Many other countries have the same level of fitness, medicine, and healthcare as Hong Kong, but live much shorter lives so the logical conclusion would be that their diet is actually improving their longevity... The oldest members in their current society are the ones who are raising the longevity curve, so that's exactly the people who have been eating meat for decades and are currently seeing its effects on their health!
@@danytalksmusic "Hong Kong's health trends date back to the 50s" And the traditional HK diet was heavily plant based meaning people who are 80-100 today grew up on diets dominated by plant foods. Meat gradually ramped up in later decades, then seemingly doubled since the early 2000s, but there is evidence that HK's recent/current meat consumption numbers are vastly inflated as there is massive meat smuggling going from HK into China.
Heart disease develops steadily over 50-70 years, and most folks in HK were eating MUCH less meat for most of the last 50-70 years, and as noted above, current numbers are questionable. HK is also super high SES, great health care, great respect for the elderly and very livable. Meanwhile rates of major chronic diseases have been ramping up dramatically in Asia as they have increased consumption of animal and processed foods dramatically. Two best predictor variables for the huge rise of dementia in Asia? Animal fat and added sugar.
Paul Saladino is not a carnivore, he eats a high carb diet. He eats a lot of fruit.
Just want vegans to know that after 2 years of a plant based diet I did my own n=1 study and corrected the following health problems with only diet, no supplements or exercise:
obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth
cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany)
heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool
edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less
shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
5+ Years on the carnivore lifestyle now :)
Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
You can't just look at LDL. It's relative to your HDL and triglycerides 🙂if your HDL is high and triglycerides low then it's ok to have high LDL
New subscriber here! Found you from PBN new video. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your videos. 😃🌱
When will we learn that big muscles =/= long term health and longevity?
1 cow can feed a family of 5 for close to a year. meat can be sustainable. and the beast way to steer food production in that direction is to support regenerative grazing with your dollars. monoculture is far more toxic for soil, co2 and planet than ruminates grazing that same land left as native grasses AKA an intact ecosystem. factory farming is the problem, monoculture crops are the problem. meat in and of itself is not the issue when it comes to ecological health
1 cow on average will net you between 500,000 and 800,000 calories. The average adult male needs between 2000 and 2500 calories a day (more if doing a lot of strenuous activities). So the average adult male needs between 730,000 and 912,500. Which means, 1 cow will feed 1 man for 1 year. It is estimated that a family of 4 require around 2,2 million calories a year.
thanks for the numbers@@briankrockmusic
Both my parents were WFPB eaters their entire live. Lived into their 90s. My grand parents were not and didnt make it past 70.
Unless you’re saying that your grandparents were pure carnivores, and I really doubt they were, your statement doesn’t make any logical sense in this context.
I’m curious, as a vegan, where do you get your vitamin B12?
From supplements.
@@ponnamy which come from what source? Either animal or lab which is SO good for your health and the environment apparently.
@@фанатКуплинова-ь1е Vitamin B12 is manufactured from bacteria.
This video didn’t age One year later and recommending low carb diets is actually supported by the AHA. They rattle on about LDL but I didn’t hear a single mention about Triglycerides. All of those videos were taken out of context, appeals to authority, not mentioning the short comings of epidemiology; I could go on...
"This video didn’t age One year later and recommending low carb diets is actually supported by the AHA." You mean the same organization who lets corporate funders help write nutrition fact sheets for them? All that means is some low-carb folks seized power there--or at least power over one white paper. There is no long-term data proving high fat diets are super healthy and safe in the long run--and long run data is all that ultimately matters. Meanwhile, all the best overall long-term results for obesity, diabetes, heart disease and more have been achieved on WFPB diets that were LOWER in fat than American's faux "low-fat diets."
Unless we find keto can do an end-run around the usual patterns in the data, after you control for other variables, the research clearly shows that diets higher in saturated animal fat are linked to more disease.
Did Paul just say “my recent LDL was 553”…. Good god that’s insane.
Yeah, the carnivores sometimes have LDLs as high as 700… 😮
@@PlantChompers sheeeessshhhh! That would be one heck of a CT calcium scoring test.
Love your content and joking manner! Really well done, all around. You may notice I'm slowly yet steadily exploring your content. Thanks a ton! Haha :)
The carnivorous looks so healthy tho
nothing to do with all that TRT Joe is on
What are your thoughts on Grains being bad? flour? sugar?
I've been watching a few of your videos and I just feel like a younger version of you (geoscientist, vegan for the planet)--and then I saw the Tern cargo bike. Did you have any clones commissioned?
I love these videos. Keep it up!
are you going to retract the “viruses come from animals” comments that seem pervasive in your videos? if you have, i apologize that i have not seen it yet.
Are zoonotic diseases not a thing?
I just watched Jordan Peterson talking about his 5 year long meat only diet, which has 1000nds of applauding comments and success stories. Really confusing. (I’m eating mostly starch based, HCLF)
It's a minor point, but it should be noted that mushrooms are their own kingdom, not plant or animal. The section on them in the Saladino book is muddled, although I would risk making a "straw man attack" by focusing on it, since it's not really central to his argument.
Thanks, Doug. Yeah, I usually just lump them in with plants for simplicity, but you're right.
No one can deny science! :)
Please keep making these videos. Thank you so much for your effort.
The decision is extremely easy for me. Where I live meat is freakishly expensive! Eating meat for every meal is sure way to the even more broke.
Where do you live?
9:45 That calculator seems to be flawed. I put in my last total cholesterol level and it rejected it because it's not between 130-199! Additionally, some other questions do not allow for an accurate representation of the answer, resulting in an estimate and advice that are far too vague and don't actually take into account the answers. For example, I have never inhaled tobacco (or other) smoke, but it still advised me not to smoke. Now, I can see an argument why they would still present that I shouldn't smoke - in case I don't know - but they didn't present any facts to reinforce why (CVD, cancer, toxic chemicals, addiction, COPD, emphysema, etc.).
MEAT and Dairy Is extremely good for you.
Forget the carbs - keep them but keep them low.
Go debate Paul.. or Shawn Baker..
I wrote this song about a carnivore, I hope you like it: th-cam.com/video/0JyM4pNWFJI/w-d-xo.html
I'm a carnivore, hear me roar
I eat meat from dusk 'til dawn.
No greens, no beans no leafy scenes,
Just steak, ribs, and eg-eggs bacon dreams.
Oh, my diet's grand, I'm a meat-eatin' man,
I'll have another burger, if I can.
But my heart's a-flutter, and my gut's in a clutter,
From all this red meat, I'm starting to stut stut tut tut tut ...stutter!
I scoff at salads (I laugh at fruit)
Give me a T-bone (that's my pursuit)
My cholesterol's soaring (my arteries clogging)
But I'll never admit that my health's a-falling!!!!
Oh, my diet's graaand (I'm a meat-eatin' man)
I'll have another steak (if I can)
But my waistline's expanding (my doctor's demanding)
That I lay off the meat!!! but I'm still standiiiing!!!!!
I'll grill up a sausag (sizzle up some ham)
I'll devour a prime rib (don't give a damn)
But my body's protesting (my health's manifesting)
In ways I never imagined
it's truly arrestiiing!!!!
I'll chew on a brisket, munch on some jerky,
But my digestion's gone wonky (oh, what a turkey!)
My kidneys are groaning, my gut's in rebellion,
But I'll stick to my meat!!! it's my culinary heaveeeen!
Oh, my diet's grand, I'm a meat-eatin' man,
Having another hotdog just becasue i caan
But my doctor's despairing (my health's beyond repairing)
From my carnivorous ways! there's no escapiiiing!!!
As I marinate my steak (in honey-glaze so sweet)
With spices that dance (and a funky beet)
My taste buds tingle (with every succulent bite)
But guilt starts creeping (by the kitchen light)
I eat 1lb of grass fed beef with alot of white rice and I've lost body fat and feel great!
Longevity.
duh the game we are playing is not losing weight, fat or feeling good. The game we are playing is staying alive healthily.
If I smoke and I feel good, should I continue doing it? duh
@@lenguyenngoc479 you really comparing losing bodyfat to smoking cigarettes lmao, it's alot healthier to lose fat than to try to maintain a higher bodyfat percentage.
@@wesleygaitan... It was you that allowed/brought in the cigarette comparison when you implied that you feel good doing what you're doing , it allows a parallel reasoning like me saying a heroin addict feels great when they're doing heroin doesn't mean they're healthy or that heroine os good for them....
There are plenty of unhealthy ways to lose fat that can be as detrimental or worse than having too much fat... You can improve different biomarkers in bad ways...
You seem to try to be playing this game you don't really understand the rules of... ;-)
“We eat what we forage in the Safeway.” 😂 NorCal
Great stuff as always! I love your debunking and rebuttal type if videos, you are very good at it! More please 😁🙏
I'm learning that a plant predominant diet is best, like you said. I'm starting the path of eating mostly plants with daily eggs and weekly fish, to prevent deficiencies. That seems to be the best diet according to the studies you read here.
Well done. Now look at cutting.v out eggs for the cholesterol to drop even further. Tricky to do? Just reduce week by week. Replace with beans, lentils, tofu, seitan, nuts, seeds. Still tricky. Watch videos documentary showing yiu how beautiful baby boy chick's are minced alive!!!! Absolute stuff of horror films. Both of those factors should help
@@panes840 I do not have a cholesterol problem. And I do not believe a whole life of 100% vegan diet is ideal. Science knowledge is not yet complete. The scriptures and religious leaders that "I" believe (you might believe differently) does not advocate for a completely animal free diet - it says to eat the flesh of beasts of the field and fowls of the air "sparingly". If curious, search the code of health given to Joseph Smith in the mid 1880's, called The Word of Wisdom.
@@greentree_ thank you and glad to hear your cholesterol is fine for now, however, I am not going to let man made religion dictate my choices. Especially as the word dominion has bedn manipulated to meet man's selfish desires and clearly causing immense suffering to any a imal under any circumstances is not even an ethical concern
Nice narcissm
@@panes840 I'm pretty sure my cholesterol will continue fine. Follow your Vegan religion and I'll follow my religion of Jesus Christ. Goodbye.
@@greentree_ good for you 😀🙄
Where’s the data on carnivore diet? You haven’t presented any evidence showing a pure carnivore diet is less beneficial to humans. Epidemiology can’t be used because it can’t be ruled out that a combination of carbs, fat and protein is the problem, not the fat and protein alone. Besides that there’s a healthy user bias in the epidemiological data. People who eat plant based tend to do it because of the belief of it being healthy and they are the group that tend to exercise more and smoke less. We need more data to say anything definitive about a pure carnivore diet.
Thanks, Adam. You might be interested in this episode that has more data: th-cam.com/video/POhkKgBeA1A/w-d-xo.html
Once again, a well constructed video. Good job. However I think a major point that was missed was Paul's idea of healthy user bias. Most of the studies you have quoted do not seem to take this into consideration. It is true that a consumer of more red meat will live an u healthier lifestyle. This will result in some convenient associations, but not much casality.
I would love for you to get on his podcast. Maybe if you get a few more subs in the future.
Great point, Liam.
Well, if eating plants only makes me just as condescending as you are, then I'd rather take my chances with heart disease
If fiber fuel would only put the recipes in grams it would elevate that to a true cook book and not just a health book. I hope he improves recipes and books out another book in grams.
can you do an episode on "carbs are not essential". thats bing oushed alot today. if its not essential why eat it than.
Your videos are so good and so right on. Bright mind you have and funny at times.
Paul sauldino eats rice , fruit, and honey now and calls himself a omnivore now.
Yeah, I notice he says he gets 80-90% of his calories from nose to tail animal foods now.
@Plant Chompers l am 90 percent plantbased now. I am of middleeastern and Caribbean descent. I cannot leave my raw yogurt, and my honey.
Hahaha, that raw yogurt is probably healthy! We make home made yogurt from soy milk and I love it. Congrats on achieving 90 percent plant based. It's a great achievement. 💪👏
The last sentence is very true. In fact...
"Eating a vegan diet could be the “single biggest way” to reduce your environmental impact on earth, a new study suggests. Researchers at the University of Oxford found that cutting meat and dairy products from your diet could reduce an individual's carbon footprint from food by up to 73 per cent.Sep 24, 2020"
Link on my channel under "About."
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford."
I always say it, whenever i get unhealthy I do not get there by eating plants fruits or even meat. A balance of fuits veg and meat as well as cutting out alcohol, fizzy drinks and sugary sweets and drinking more water will do anyone the world of good. Carnivores seem unhealthy and Vegans also seem unhealthy (too skinny and frail and sick all the time, I know because I used to be vegan along with a lot of friends who all quit due to health issues)
Most meat eaters are frail, weak and sick
millions of people eat meat and don't get clogged arteries so this is a not a valid arguement
Millions of people smoke and don't get lung cancer.
@@PlantChompers yep except you have real evidence smoking will cause cancer in people but you don't have any evidence that people who only eat organic grass fed beef, organic veggies, and fruit get cancer because of the meat. if you have a real study that meets those parameters post it
thanks for the reply though appreciate it
I would love to hear this white guy of obvious European descent talk about his diet and especially avocados about 300 years ago and in the winter. It would be very interesting to see what he would actually eat back then. He might have actually been more knowledgeable about natural human diet.
Paul Saladino eats fruit and rice now as well as meat.
Great video! So glad I found this channel! 🙂👍
#BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
Good work! Thanks
How much is the WHO paying you bud? Almost every reply you have made compares animal protein to man made cigarettes. Are you insane? 🤡
Thank you, Chris!!
Ha, there's no way plants can be good for humans after all of that evolutionary divergence! As for ruminants, well, they must have been plants recently, who knows.
It’s very disingenuous of you to point at James Hansen’s arrests as being the effect of the coal and oil industry lobbying against his research, as if big money controls the police. He was arrested during demonstrations. It’s probably the desired effect, because the arrest of notorious public figures such as him makes it to the news outlets, raising awareness for his cause.
I am both positively amazed by your channel (exposing this ludicrous passage in Saladino’s book, that’s an insane eye-opener on the guy) but also disappointed to see that you follow some of the same tactics as the disingenuous people you try to counter. Maybe I’m missing something, but otherwise, I sincerely hope you can wane out this bad side of your content, so that we are left with the good (which is insanely good and I can’t thank you enough for the amount of work that you’re doing.)
Thanks, Cyrano. Yes, you're right, he was arrested during demonstrations and your criticism is very valid. I wish I hadn't included that.
Isn't our ancestral diet frugivorous, like our primate and hominid ancestors?
Some sheep agreed to start eating meat because they wanted to be big and strong like lions. They quickly died.
Some lions agreed to start eating only grass when they saw the sheep died from eating meat, then the lions quickly died too.
Humans are omnivores. Yes we can survive on extreme diets like veganism and carnivory, but we evolved to eat a little of everything.
Your face 😳 when Paul says his LDL is 533 😂
What do you think of Dr. Eric Westman?
I have quite a bit of respect for him. I read his book last year and have listened to a few of his lectures. He's definitely in the land of Atkins, but he's helped improve that dietary pattern and even has vegan Akin options.
@@PlantChompers How do you feel about all the sugar in fruit? Do vegans eat too much fruit?
I do not I do not think the science is settled on this.
I beleive we will learn more benefits from a mostly carnivore diet.
I eat %80 high fat and muscle meat. %10 veggies and %10 fruit.
The best thing to do is eat whole foods. Single ingredient foods. If it comes in a package or prepared for you don’t eat it.
Love your videos! Greetings from Sweden!
Thanks! I'll be seeing your beautiful country in September 😁💥😎😍. Can't wait!
And now Saladino includes fruit and honey in his diet because he was having heart palpitations and blood work issues.. oops I guess?
Let's celebrate your video with some bacon, eggs, and chorizo.
You should talk with Joe
seriously? I don't understand the conclusion that if 2 things are very different that there's no way that both can be right. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. There is no single one-size-fits-all answer to anything. Both plant based and animal based can work and there's evidence for both to be true at the same time because people are different. Besides, Paul Saladino does eat fruit. The main takeaway from any of the people he mentions in this video is that we should probably stay away from all of the hyper-palatable processed foods that are marketed to us. Clean ingredients, either plant or animal are going to be a lot better for you and we should be able to decide for ourselves which one we choose if not both. Some people have health issues that can play a part in which choice they make and I don't see why so many people decide to judge them for it.
Mushrooms are not plants, they are fungi!
We again have proof that the MD degree requires tons of hard work, but not necessarily much intelligence.
clogged arteries for eating a diet consisting of 40% meat but what's the other 60%???
You should really do a video debunking Dave champion.
The problem with all of the people who praise and follow Paul, is cognitive dissonance. People like the taste of steak and butter and fat and generally don't like vegetables and so they make decisions that , I think a lot of them, deep down, know are risky, but they look for any excuse or data to keep eating that way because its more enjoyable.
Oh noes! I just ate a huge bowl of vegetable stew with spinach and butter beans! My heart 😂
do you have any images of human arteries with accompanying data, of do you think that's entirely irrelevant to this conversation?
Sir, you are doing a fantastic job of public service.
Paul "Salad" is not a medical doctor. His degree is in psychology. He is also not representative of the average American. He works out way more! He is not someone I would recommend following when it comes to the carnivore diet, as that is not what he now advocates. Bottom-line is that hating on Paul doesn't help your argument. Or as it would be termed nowadays: That aged badly.
He is a medical doctor speciality in psychiatry
An interesting development with Paul Saladino is that he is no longer purely carnivore: he now includes honey and fruit. He made the change after he health began to decline on the diet (feeling less energetic, lower testosterone, sleep issues, and rising blood sugar I think, among other things). This shift has been mirrored by others on the diet, with many people finding that (shockingly!) their bodies need some level of carbohydrates to function well.
Having been on the carnivore diet (and ruined my health while on it), I can say that the initial benefits make 'true believers' of many people. Unfortunately, the diet is a trap of sorts: the longer you are on it (and maybe the more damaged/deficient you are when you start), the *more* sensitive you become to non-animal foods. Perhaps you become more deficient in certain vitamins/minerals, weakening your digestion. Perhaps the lack of fiber changes your gut microbiome so drastically that it's just not as equipped to digest plant food as well. In any case, this makes leaving the diet seem like a bad option ("I'm in pain when I eat plant foods, I don't want to live like that!") and reinforces the carnivore diet lore that it is the evolutionarily optimal diet ("See! I can't eat rice anymore. I'm clearly running so cleanly that my body rejects toxic plant foods, it must be because it knows they are bad for me!"). Then there is the fact that dieters are warned that there may be prolonged 'adaptation' to the carnivore diet (similar to the 'keto flu'). The result? All negative symptoms can be chalked up to 'adaptation'/keto flu, and considered transitory: "So, feeling badly on the diet? Well, maybe you've just not adapted to it! Take an electrolyte supplement and give it another few weeks. Or a month. Or six. You're just not adapted yet."
I guess my point is that it's very difficult to 'debunk' the diet to people who are on it. They usually have to start feeling negative symptoms first AND ALSO lose faith in the influencers/literature surrounding it (so they won't just chalk up their negative symptoms to adaption/wrong protein to fat ratio, etc).
Thank you. I mentioned him in this episode on B12: th-cam.com/video/sCKmiwkNTzE/w-d-xo.html
One of the things I like about Dr Saladino is his willingness to change. And be open about the change. I have no respect for anyone who espouses a particular thing, realizes it doesn’t work long term, but continues the same narrative while quietly doing something else behind the scenes.
@@doubles1545 Agreed. Of all the big names in the carnivore sphere, I have some respect for Saladino for not only acknowledging that he was having problems on the diet, but for adding back carbohydrates AND encouraging others to do so. A common mentality in the community is that if you go back to eating "sugar" it's because you are undisciplined and just can't hack it without carbs, so you gave in. Saladino is at least trying to combat that mentality now by providing an explanation as to why carbs might not be evil after all. Still, he did lead a lot of people down the wrong path for years before changing his tune. And you can bet that had he not experienced the negative symptoms that he did, he would still be telling people that all they need to be healthy is animal foods, dismissing anecdotes from people whose health tanked on carnivore as liars or not doing it right.
@@PlantChompers Thanks. High B12 content in carnivore diets being the reason that carnivores initially feel so well is not a theory I'd heard before. Very interesting.
@Axileus “Alternatively, I am still stuck in the bubble and that makes it impossible for me to do anything but regurgitate the same tired phrases, even in the face of direct contradiction.”
😂😂 go away, cultist. I lived it
Thank you so much! This channel definitely a hidden gem!!
So glad I just found your channel! Great work mate! Keep up the good work. Paul Saladino is just cringe worthy!
Thanks Josh!
Man Baldy, you are coming in hard with facts! I love it. So many people push agendas with out any facts, MAYBE an article from a outlying blog or something.. but bringing all the scientific studies into your argument is what more people need to do. You are making me excited about being vegan again and I started back in 2009!
Thanks, Stephen! My heroes are scientists who do hard, timeless studies that make a difference. They usually labor in obscurity because their science is all-consuming. But the hired guns for corporations who call their firms think tanks and act as experts...do no science. They spend full time making media appearances and crafting viral tweets, selling doubt about science. And they fool most of the people most of the time. Argh, it kills me.
@@PlantChompers Agreed.. it's insane what greed does to people. :(
Vegans are pushing the agenda too!
Your channel is amazing and you are so knowledgeable. Thank you for your hard work and persistence in saving society.
This channel and your videos pack so much science, historical data, analyses, wit, and class, yet you somehow manage to keep it real and easily absorbed.. Just like plants :). Many thanks!
Okay, so basicaly when someone feels good on a certain diet doesn´t mean it is good for him? Those anecdotes of famous people who died of heart attack has nothing to do with sientific point of view. That is just using it to make people doubt about them selfves. After a year beaing vegan I´ve lost so much of my body mass and my gut was in horrible condition - constipation, dhiaria, awfull smell. Not to say that in my 30´s I felt like a 60 year old man. And no, I wasn´t eating junk food (almost always whole good quality food). And beacause I was brain washed by vegan movement, I was overlooking that I was in a degradation. Even my family and friends were really worried about me. Didn´t matter to me, just save the planet and don´t hurt any living animal (except it´s not true at all). Well I definately hurt mysefl. So how can this be advised as a healthy option if can hurt someone so much? Just asking. So now I eat meat, and eggs and butter and milk (mostly in a raw form - yes even meat), some fruits, some veggies but very occasionaly because now I know what they did to me. I did some more research on micronutrients, toxins, aniturients and so on. The difference in how I feel is way to significant to actualy believe that I am doint something wrong. Sure I might be, but as they always said, trust your gut, and my decison is to folow it literally. Also, you are saing that pandemics are caused by animal agriculture, like there is only one way of raising animals. If animals would be in natural enviroment on pastures, nothing like that would ever happen. But hey it´s nice to say something that will support your theories. Just listen people, never stop listening to your intuition and always reconsider what you are doing is not against your nature. Once you follow someone elses ideas, it´s not gonna end well for you. Peace
looks like your gut wasn't ready for all that fiber, its a rookie mistake you have to take it slow,
Such a great testimony, wish you more good health
Thanks Chris. I agree with the many others that appreciate your contributions to sciences-based communication on this important topic. And ... I appreciate that you make it entertaining. Always look forward to more.
The most advanced civilizations across time and geography were predominately plant based. The longest living societies are primarily plant based, most elite athletes are heavily plant based, science backs this up as presented in this as always great video. So I fail to understand how all of the sudden plants are trying to kill us and deem it as inferior.