Light Stands | C-Stands - Don't Risk Your Gear With Cheap!
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- Wanted to show why CHEAP light stands are not a good idea, show an OK affordable light stand, and my favorite, the C-Stand (WAY MORE useful than a light stand). bit.ly/Subscri...
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Crap Light Stand - DON'T DO IT!
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Metal Light Stands - 2 @ $79
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RECOMMENDED - KUPO C-Stands - 10 Foot @ $206
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*The C-Stand is the way to go, and you can get one @ less than $100. Sure, they mount lights, BUT, you can use them for mounting cameras, sound blankets, almost anything you need to mount and support. Well worth the investment. Links in the description.*
Just get good Weifeng sturdy C stand. They make around 80% of them in the world.
Also getting used C stand nearby can be as low as 1/3-1/4 of original price, as no one sane will ship them.
Smart. These are built like a tank and this is one of those time a USED piece of gear is really worth it.
What about the Neewer C-stands? theyre around 180 for 2 pieces (with arms)
Most be good, Neewer is justr rebrand. Most probably it is same Weifeng made stuff.
Thanks for this! Also thanks for the tip on how not to push up on the boom! Gah! I love my c-stands and find that a mix of the taller and shorter stands work best for me in studio. When I have to go on location as a one man band, I always bring at least one c-stand to hold the boom for the mic and I have a set of 25 year old Manfrotto light stands that hold my lights. They were very pricey back in the 90s when I got them but they're still going strong today. I've never regretted spending what seemed like way too much money back then.
Thank you Curtis! 25 year old Manfrotto light stands - wow! Years ago I sold a bunch of stuff that was "old" and I soooo regret it.
I'll take that CHEAP light stand..dont throw it away.
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Now while cheap Chinese knock off equipment can be just a losing bet, I can say from experience the Neewer light stands you pointed out are actually a great buy! The base is VERY wide. I have mounted everything from a speedlight, 400 watt studio light and even the extension arm from a C-stand and everything has been completely sturdy. If you are on a tight budget I highly recommend these as well!
Thanks for the comment. I originally got these as a quick solution and needed them fast. I was very surprised at how beefy they are and how much weight they hold, which is why I recommend them, and at 2 for under $100 now, it's a good deal.
I have a LimoStudio three-piece soft box light set. It came with three of that exact same light stands, except the stand for the boom kit is very clearly heavier-duty. The kit gets the job done. I bought it because my entire budget for getting gear was very low and I had nothing. I still have the kit and I use it sometimes, but you really have to be careful to put a leg directly under the soft box and some small weight bags on the ends of the legs help a lot. I'd love to have proper C-stands, but you know what? The vast majority of what I do these days either doesn't require (or allow) me to set up lighting at all OR I can use a tripod-mounted LED light and some cheap clamp work lights with a socket splitter and two "daylight" CFLs inside each. Unfortunately, us broke people have to make do with what we can afford sometimes.
Feel free to donate to the "Relay for Jody" C-stand drive ;-) hahahaha.
LOL! Nice. You take what you've got, and get it done anyway. Perfect!
Great video. Make sure that when you have a light hanging off your c-stand like that you put the knuckle of the right side (as in correct and also as in not left). ie. put it in the direction that if you were to pull down on the light it will tighten instead of loosen.
Agreed. Will save a lot of frustration/injuries/broken stuff.
Agreed! After years of working, I just witnessed the first instance of someone having that mistake bite them in the back. Thank God the grip who did it was standing right there to catch it and I didn't have to replace a light :)
Righty tighty!
Lefty loosy
Chris. A great tip and I wish I had mentioned it. I’ve seen bad things happen that could have been avoided with this simple rule.
My light does not need any stand, its a sun :)
Nice review bro. I plan to build a small food review studio and this review is very important to me. Thanks
Let me know how the sun works for you when you are asked to film an interview in a cave. :p
Thanks Budiono Sukses!
Eric Lefebvre - mirror setups are your friend in this case. :)
C-stands will be the best investment you can make for your gear
A million and one uses.
Love your work, agree with your recommendations and now have to calm down my significant other for being "led on". Only hope you can use these in self-defence. Although sandbags can be useful. Regards and respect.
Sand bags are great. I LOL'ed as I read your comment initially as "calm down my significant other for being "L-E-D on". :)
Great Video! You'll certainly be buying things twice if you go too cheap. Also, it's worth mentioning that you may be able to buy higher quality stands for your budget if you buy used, or returned equipment.
Definitely. Things like c stands are the perfect used items.
I'm glad this is still posted, Kevin, as I am just now learning to use my C-stands. This video is fun because I had this exact journey: cheap black stands that came with cheap lighting kit, then the better silver stands (from Neewer), then finally two C-stands, which I still need to learn to use effectively. Admittedly, I do still use the black cheapies, but for traveling light with a really small inexpensive light when that is appropriate (e.g. taking quick macro stills of small products at a shop). I love the weight of the C-stand for securing my one good light (Aperture 120D), but I also have another one to boom a mic, and for that alone I have to think a C-stand is nearly essential, as I found it is not easy to securely sandbag a regular folding stand convincingly. - Dave
Glad I watched this. Very informative. Definitely don't want to die.
LOL! Dying sucks. 😁
Huh. The funny thing is that one of my light stands recently fell apart, so I’m looking at the good quality light stands. Then this video came up.
I guess you didn't notice me creepin' outside your window? :) Glad it was useful.
Basic Filmmaker haha. That was you in the window? I saw you in the corner of my eye.
😂 Ha!
I mean, I know what you're getting at, but $100 for a light stand? No, sir, not in this economy! :D
I got both of my Falcon lights plus the light stands that came with them for about $200. Yes, the stands are kinda cheap (as are the lights), but I couldn't really afford anything else at the time (actually sold my Panasonic G6 to buy lighting), so it was a choice between no lights versus cheap semi-decent lights. Well, it's been 2 years and they still work great, so I guess if you shoot at home only a couple of times a month a somewhat cheapo setup should work fine :)
For sure! If what you've got works - then it works. Why change?
I own about 12 of the super cheap lightstands. 2 good light stands and no c-stands.
I use mainly small flash units for my photography off camera with remote triggers. I'll mount 2 on a bracket with a modifier like a softbox or umbrella.
For that case use, the cheap stands are fine. I just sandbag them and obs your uncle.
I also own some 300 LED light panels from NEWEER. The lights are very light and again these cheap lightstands work fine for them with some weight at the bottom.
I also own a cheap 4 bulb head with small attachable soft box (75$ Can for a kit of two) .
Again, weighs next to nothing so these stands are fine.
When I want to boom something, I have a boom arm that I can attach to my better light stands like the second stand you showed use because the cheap stands CANNOT handle anything boomed, even my lightest light or even to boom a shotgun mic. The cheap stands were meant to support downward weight and not downward and side.
I do location work a a one man team with short shooting time frames so I need to keep my bags light and small. I need to be able to carry everything in one or two trips from the car max.
I've only ever had one cheap stand break on my in 10 years.
Conversely, I've used TRIPODS as light stands. The wider legs and higher center helps keep the lights steady. Just mount a lightstand adapter to your 1/4 20 screw on your quick release and voila!
I'd love some nice c-stands but the cost and weight just make it so they are not really an option for the type of work I currently do.
Also, I'd never mount a camera on these stands. I have tripods for that. I also have a tripod that can boom a DSLR at 90 dregrees (5d2, battery grip, 2 batteries and a canon 24-70 f2.8 on it no problem).
As usual, love your videos.
Thanks Eric! Lots of good tips here. I mentioned this setup and these stands for a studio setting like mine, but, if I were a mone-man band carting all this stuff around, no way would I use the big gear.
When it's a Light stand before you put a light on it, that's a problem.
DaveCVideo LOL! I read this like 5 times until I got the pun. :)
Bought a kit light that came with a stand like the one in the beginning of the video, mounted my yongnuo yn360 to it and the tip of the light stand broke off inside the light lol.
Also had bad things happen. They all look like a deal until something bad happens.
Do you have a recommendation for stands that take up the same floor space as those cheap stands you showed in the beginning, but that are built well? I've got 2 C stands but I don't have any room to keep any more, so I'm trying to find good stands that aren't as heavy and large as even the spring ones you showed.
Meh. Lightweight stands are usually cheap and don't hold up well. That's why I mounted my lights to the walls as it gives me so much more room. I could link some cheap light stands but I am afraid you won't like them.
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks but I've already got about 6 cheap light stands with 3 more coming in an RGB light set I ordered. I guess I should just try to clear some more space for some decent light stands instead of trying to find portable ones then.
Wonderful Presentation!!!....One of the best straight to the point, just short of the top if even best presentations on stand choices...Appreciate the links in which to buy and avoid.
Thanks Jerry! Appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback!
The biggest drawback to the c stand is the weight and odd shape. I would have to use a cart to move it around while the other lightstands are totally collapsable and put into a bag.
True that. They are great if you have the method to move them around, or in a stationary studio. For going from place to place shooting, they don't work for many.
Enjoyed your video. Commenting here so that TH-cam will love you as much as I do.
Thank you!
more like 5 or 10 cents lol yeah don't want to put something that cost 800 bucks on a 39.99 stand good video my friend
It took one fail a long time ago for me to get my head out of my arse. :)
@@BasicFilmmaker lol
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Great Video! How you do mount a light on a C-Stand arm? Do you just mount the light on the head of the arm rod or you need some other accessories?
Usually it comes with the necessary hardware. You have the legs and stand itself, and the grips. Check out the photo here: amzn.to/2GRbHHi Then the light itself will have a mount (called a baby pin) that fits into the grip head.
Have you a link to what you recommend to mount the light with on the end of the extension 'arm' or pole.
These are called Grip Heads, and most C-stands have (or should have) them included, but not all. They look like this amzn.to/2BrMJc7 and are compatible with all stands. You take the light mounting end stud (which should be included with the lights and look like this amzn.to/2BnEn5t) and mount it into the grip head.
Hello Kevin, cool vidéo as always :)
I have a small question: when do you want to use a c stand and when would you use a tripod/heavy duty stand ? Can a c stand without gobo head play the same role as a heavy duty ?
Thanks !
Good question. You can use a c-stand and configure it to do about anything. On the one hand, they are great, can hold lots of weight, and are super for those things where you need to have something hanging out in space, like a camera or light or whatever. The big drawback is they are, by design, super heavy and a pain to transport. And hey! Thanks for being a LONG time subscriber! ♥️
@@BasicFilmmaker OK, so if I have c stand, it's useless to invest in tripod stands then.
Thanks :)
Keep up the good work, I learned a lot watching your vids :)
If I was using heavy studio light instead of speedlites I would get mathewes c stands
Those are good stands. 👍
Those c stands are heavy as f... I prefer the aluminum heavy duty ones.
C-Stands are heavy, and the aluminum ones are great and can be used. That being said, the c-stands are heavy as they don't topple and can hold a ton of equipment up in the air.
Because of this video, my mind is now settled. Definitely a C-stand for me.
C stands rock!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
@@BasicFilmmaker I have a question if you have time please. I saw on another video someone saying that C-stands are not very ideal outside as they can be "tippy" is that true, if so, would you recommend one like the metal one (the second one) you showed on this video instead of the C-stand?.. thanks..
😂 that’s right guys whatever you do don’t stab yourselves in the heart.
You become.......heartless. Oh groan. 😁
Perfect. Thanks!
Thanks CUISINED!
Always candid and to the point! I appreciate your content... Be well, stay encouraged, and Happy Holidays to you and yours!
Thanks Jacob Christian Glover!
I quit going cheap long ago when it comes to my passion. Spend the extra $$ for what you love doing and you'll be rewarded over and over again.
Lesson learned here too. I have a closet full of crap I never use. :)
@@BasicFilmmaker can i get your info? I could use that crap that is still functioning
All good information. Thanks.
Thanks you sir!
You look really tired. No usual energy, is all ok?
All OK. Playing with presentation energy levels and see if someone notices. Like you! :)
@@BasicFilmmaker Kevin, it's not your first downplay, so you also made me worried. If it doesn't wear you out, please get back to your normal level of vibrance. How a presentation is perceived, is influenced by its content 7%, choice of words 35% and performance 58%. In these videos you don't look convinced about what you're saying. I guessed you had a flu, heavy workload or other problems. Normally you poke us up, to get things done. I guess we now have to say: put some pants on and get on with it!
@@peterslegers6121 Can you point to the sources for those numbers? Thanks.
P.S. If the source is your butt, then leave it to the imagination.
LOL!!
Peter Slegers Well, OK, that's could be my opinion if I didn't know that I am doing this exact research for an online course involving energy levels vs viewer engagement. Heavy workload yes, but I'm like an energizer bunny who never runs out of batteries. The cool thing is, you DID notice, and that's what I was testing. Wait until you see a video later on where I go completely the other way! :)
Thank you so much
Please I wanna ask..
What is the proper mount for heavy camera
Really, you would use a tripod. You could use the camera's quick release plate to mount to a stand, but I would use a tripod.
@@BasicFilmmaker but i need an overhead shot, the tripod will not help
Ah! You can construct some thing out of Aluminum or pipe, and attach the camera using clamps. Otherwise you'll spend some money on some rigging.
As always, welcomed and great advice. Thanks!
Thanks Lyle Cameron!
Thanks Lyle Cameron!
I get it, but... I'm a one-man videographer a lot of the time. I have to carry all my gear and can't always leave it to make two trips. C-stands just take up too much space and are heavy. What would you recommend in my case?
Depends on your needs, and how much you have to carry. If it's a carry issue, and you don't have really expensive or really heavy gear, go for the light stuff. You can also sandbag the crap out of the stands you do have.
I'm in the same situation so I've kept all my gear light.
I can carry everything in 4 bags and a rolling suitcase in one trip and most of the time I can just make do with 4 bags.
1 small camera shoulder bag with my 3 LED panels.
1 camera backpack with my cameras, lenses and shotgun mics (and 2 dollar store shower curtains whe I need to soften some window light).
1 small camera shoulder bag with my audio gear (recoder, multiple wired and ireless lavs, various wires, headphones ...) and odds and ends (friction arms on clamps, tape ...).
1 lightstands shoulder bag that contains 4 lightstands, 2 tripods, 4 medium umbrellas (2 bounce, 2 shoot through) and a roll of parchement paper as diffusion.
The rolling suitcase is for bigger projects where I bring AC powered lights, heavier stands, extension cords, boom arms ...
Eric Lefebvre Nice!
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You bet!!
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You are very welcome!
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