It's crazy how someone will hold your past and try and throw it in your face to get out of responsibility!! That man did his time and being productive in this world!! Glad it didn't work!
TOTALLY you know damn well the defendant just made up the details of his case by saying he tried to kill a judge. You know TPC runs full background checks on all the people that go before JM for her safety.
People who try to demonize defense of yourself or your property are so manipulative. Defendant had no control of her dogs and didn’t care after multiple warnings
@@dunkinjunkie5868right!! She even said when Gracie didn't come home she thought she was hiding in the woods from the male dogs that were trying to breed her again after just having puppies a month prior. I'm sorry, if your female dog has to run off and hide in the woods enough to make a common habit out of it, there's something extremely wrong
The plaintiff is a perfectly honest gentleman who paid his due to society for his former transgression therefore it's irrelevant to this case. Much respect Mr. Loy
I was thinking the same thing!! If he did time for his crime, DON'T mention it in this proceeding. She tried to make him look bad in the sight of JM. I wish he got everything he sued her for, but I get it.
It's not like she treated her dog very well either. She not only let it get into trouble. She forced the dog to flee and hide because she didn't have any containment/peace for her away from the males. The plaintiff was protecting his animals.
She also said the female was only "about a year old" and had given birth around a month older. She didn't care about that dog other than as a payday. That woman shouldn't own dogs, let alone breed them!
@@jenn_x. Absolutely agree. She's the type of person that thinks they are a good owner purely based on the fact that she's had many dogs in her life and that somehow makes her believe that she's entitled to own dogs. Unfortunately she's not the only one that thinks like this. I've seen many people who have absolutely no business owning any animals and we're horrible with their dogs but they always walk around with the "I've had dogs all my life. I know what I'm doing" attitude. And there's literally no reasoning with people like that. I just wish that we took the buying and selling of pets, and any animals, more seriously. I also wish that we changed society's super lax attitude towards owning animals. We should be way more thorough in making sure that the needs of the animal are met and that they can be properly cared for. We should also do background checks on people buying animals and they should have at least a basic knowledge of the animal they are wanting to get, as well as making sure that their lifestyle is compatible with that specific breed or species. Because up until now, we have set the br incredibly low. Any person can go by an animal from a pet store, breeder, or private party, with virtually zero oversight. They need no prior experience, knowledge or training and most people base their decision to get an animal based solely on superficial things such as they think it's cute, it's popular or trendy, or it looks tough, or they met another of the same breed and really liked it and wanted one for themselves, even though animals have their own personalities and temperaments. And unfortunately because so many people base their decision to take on the responsibility of owning an animal on these ridiculous superficial aspects instead of the important things that actually matter, they quickly realize that they got in over their heads and that's how we end up with so many abandoned animals and over full shelters. Sorry for the rant... I could literally go on for days on how much this topic gets me going and I'm super passionate about it because I love animals and they deserve so much better than how we treat them.
@@sashabenoit1518 so many people think cos their uncle had a dog, they know all about dogs and how to train them. As an animal trainer, it drives me bonkers.
Yes! She said the female dog had puppies a month earlier, and she ran and hid in the woods because the other dogs were trying to mate with her. Four-week-old puppies -- still nursing! -- and the defendant wouldn't protect her? The defendant is a horrible dog owner.
@@michelehemlokhexwhite4310 Yes! It drives me absolutely crazy too! The logic some people have is just absurd. Just because you grew up with pets that your parents or relatives had, or your best friend had dogs growing up and you got along with them, doesn't automatically make you suitable to be an owner. But yet, so many think that way. And not only that but they fail to even consider if those people were actually good owners themselves and the fact that they were their main example growing up of what a dog owner should do, that would inevitably instill the bad habits of those people onto them and how they are as an owner. People tend to forget that being an owner is a big responsibility and not everyone is cut out to handle it, whether it be mentally, physically, or financially. This is why I'm so passionate and vocal about this because I'm sick of how society treats the ownership of animals and the severe lack of knowledge of how to properly care for different animals and their individual needs and temperaments. We have to change our attitudes about how we go about this because unfortunately, it's the animals who end up suffering from our ignorance and irresponsible practices. We're finally starting to take animal abuse and neglect more seriously, making it a capital offense but now we need to take who we give these animals to more seriously, so we can hopefully prevent, or at least lessen the amount of abuse and neglect by getting to the root of the problem before it gets to that point.
@@sv5304you obviously know nothing about what a cattle person is willing to do when a dog/coyote/wolves/ is stressing and killing their cattle. I love dogs, and animals, never killed a human and I would have done the same thing if her dogs kept pinning my cattle, stressing them, and causing them to die.
17:33 _"My dogs have been chasing his cows for YEARS"_ Years?! 😑🙄They shouldn't be chasing to begin with! Now if those dogs messed around and got _donkey-stomped_ or trampled by the cows, she would have played the victim card. She should not be having any dogs, let alone breeding any. 😒 *Her dogs should not be chasing anything like its a normal routine!*
I live in a rural area and sold eggs for a living. I can tell you that once dogs know you have prey animals they will not stop. I had 2 dogs kill all but 4 of my 36 chickens. It destroyed my livelihood and the owners never paid a dime.
@dodgek5270 In a pack of at least 2 for an adult, yes. Only takes 1 to kill a young one or calf. There were 3 found harassing them at least twice, although one was a different breed. Livestock protection dogs are extremely powerful themselves as they guard against bear, coyote, wolf, wildcat, etc. They are no joke.
@adriennefindley4637 I don't think you answered my question at all. My question didn't involve the great Pyrenees nor did I ask about killing young cows. Again can an adult border collie kill an adult cow by itself?
@@dodgek5270they can. Especially pregnant heifers. They were within a month of giving birth. Stress like that can easily cause heart attacks in big pregnant animals. And boarder collies are relentless at hearing and pestering cattle/sheep/goats. It's bred I to them to try and herd animals. They will also try and herd children running and nip their ankles to keep them in line. Paired with a great pryernees garden dog. That's asking for trouble.
Hold on a sec.. she said the plaintiff didn't say anything about the cows until after he shot the dog.. then 6 minutes later... she admits he did tell her.
Anyone sympathizing with the defendant doesn't understand the law. He was leasing that land. When a dog or any animal you own becomes a threat to another's livestock, be it chickens, cows, goats or sheep or whatever, that person has a right to eliminate that threat and be compensated for the damages. You keep your animals on your own property.
Exactly! The only one who has no business having animals is the defendant. She didn't properly control her animals. The plaintiff had every right in the law to do what he did to protect his livestock.
I agree 100%! I don’t appreciate people that make money off of breeding dogs, and not keeping their dogs contained knowing that your neighbor has livestock!
I think most people are just sympathetic towards the dog itself, not so much the Defendant. Like JM said, the dog was just being a dog but it was the unwillingness and negligence of the Defendant to not contain her dogs and therefore, the dog suffered the consequences for its owners lack of due diligence and responsibility.
It's sad any animal should be killed--but the dogs killed the cow first, and continually harassed the cows. I am a dog lover but this man had the right to protect his livestock on his land. Hearing the goats had their ears chewed off by another one of her dogs made me sick. The defendant took no responsibility for any of her dogs..."my dogs have been chasing his cows for YEARS"!
She just said that Gracie was about a year old but that she'd just had puppies a month prior. Dogs are pregnant about 2 months. So she bred her when she was 9 months old, which is awful! She also said the dog was running bcs the males kept trying to breed with her which means she provided no protection for her! She shouldn't be allowed to own dogs! Horrible!
Why wouldn't he get the money for the 1st cow? He testified with witness corroboration that the dogs were a problem before and he told her. She's lying about not knowing about the 1st time.
She is incredibly irresponsible with animals to let the dogs loose like that and not even pay attention to what is going on. He's actively taking care of and protecting his livestock. She should be ashamed
The minute she said my dog been chasing his cows for years that's when she should have paid for both heifers and both calves. That's a good $8000 or more in damages.
My daughter got a Great Pyrenees to protect her livestock. It killed her chickens so she gave it away. Not all are great protectors. She got another one who is a sweetheart. He is so docile and loving I'm unsure if he would run off prey, but his size and presence might scare them off. All dogs in a specific breed are not equal.
@@Void28368 Yes, they may need to be trained. But I feel the biggest item is the dog's demeanor and spirit. Ghost, my daughter's 2nd dog has a kind spirit...no training necessary.
I want to address the dogs chewing of the goats ears. She claimed it was a whippet but I don't believe it. Whippets are made of tissue and wooden chopsticks. The amount of whippets that I've seen working in vets that break their legs from jumping off a couch is incredible. I doubt they would have gotten to chew ears off goats without getting broken bones. A woman who doesnt know where her dogs are most of the time will not have a good track record of training her dogs imo.
Just want to add border collies are only good herders if you train them . All untrained dogs can be vicious. It is never an excuse to let untrained dogs unsupervised.
This defendant is in denial. She is totally responsible for this mans loss. I'm a dog lover, but this man did what he had to do to save his livestock. Bringing up his past is horrible. She's despicable.
Farm guy here, livestock gaurdian dogs are trained to do their jobs and they are very specific about it too. Dogs aren't just born to do something if they aren't trained to. If you trained a great Pyrenees to gaurd chickens and chickens only there's no guarantees he wont kill the goats if you out him in the goats pen thats just not what hes been trained to do
Well that lady is definitely a narcissist. Blaming everyone else. Me, me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine, mine. My dogs wouldn't kill his cows. Well she wasn't with her dogs 24/7. If she had been, none of this wouldn't have happened. That old man is a good ole boy. She wants to bring his prison time up. He did his time. He wasn't hurting a soul until he had to shoot a dog. He was protecting what was his. Plain and simple.
If he had a neighbour that previously informed him about her dogs barking at his cows, before there ever was a death, and he mentioned it to her, then why is she not liable for the first cow's death? And why wasn't she liable for the death of the calves?...
If not properly trained border collies can absolutely go into fixation/kill mode. This lady should NOT be breeding dogs if she doesn't know the breed and its behavioral issues fully.
The fact that the defendant thought his record was gonna help her. Like, boo, he owned that! "I meant what I said, and said what I meant!" He did his time and moved past all that and started up a good life, then you show up and intrude on that with all your entitlement because it was your mama's property....
My great-uncle raised sheep. Anytime a dog came on his property he'd shoot them. This always horrified me as a dog lover. The point is don't let your dogs run lose. If my dogs are outside, they are always on a leash. One of mine got lose one day and I called off work and chased him all over town. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if he came to any harm.
Damn where yall living with these ranchers 😭 The amount of animals that escape ranchers and people don’t go off shooting those. Glad our ranchers and farmers around here are decent human beings.
I had a Great Pyrenees and I caught him harassing a horse. Herding dog is trained to guard sheep, ducks, and cows. This lady's dogs were not trained. I side with the plaintiff.
She should not ever be allowed to have animals. How disgustingly irresponsible. And she doesn't even get how incredibly wrong she is. It sucks that that dog died, but that was entirely her fault.
Milian was wrong. Plaintiff should have received monies for the original attack. The irresponsible defendant acknowledged that she let her dogs run free and that they had been over on his property before. Defendant should never, never, never be allowed to own a dog. She is completely irresponsible. Border collies and great pyrenees are two breeds that crave training and a responsibility/job.
Defendant states the dog didn't bite the cows. The stress of a continual physical threat over many hours is so harmful to a pregnant cow. The cow can't go to water or graze during the harassment. Its an all day marathon with a high heart rate and adrenalin becomes fatal.
Feed and train your damn dogs lady!! Stop being lazy. Border collies attacking cows like a wolf is wild to me. She probably has no training for them and probably doesn’t feed them enough.
There’s a lot of semantics to this case, however, I notice a lot of people downplay the importance of one’s livestock. it is a livelihood and it is what a lot of these people bet their lives on each and every year. You protect Your livelihood.
He should have got the cost of both cows. Ridiculous verdict. Of course he had every right to protect his property and kill the dog. (What was it doing away from her month old puppies and why had she been bread when she was only a year old???)
Shouldn't he be reimbursed for both cows? They're considered property, and her dogs destroyed them. Why do you need notice before you can be held responsible?
I feel like the recess she took was to research whether he had conspired to bomb a judge's vehicle . She normally announces what she's going to do on recess, but here she didn't.
Anyone who has ever farmed knows that if any animal is a threat to your livestock or animals your gonna handle your business. Even if that means pew pew you protect your property. And just because the defendants dogs were working dogs doesn't mean they won't attact another animal. Her dogs were raised around sheep not cows once an animal gets the taste for blood you can't change them. And that man has done his time for what he was charged with the defendant lied and said he was charged with attempted murder of a judge just to get a reaction from JM and make him look bad. Believe it when I tell you TPC runs a full background check on every litigant that goes before JM they do this for her safety.
Doug said to the lady that he feels sorry for the loss of her dog, but he didn't say anything like that for the man's 2 cows + the 2 calves they were carrying. Unbelievable
I have a pitbull. He's very nice and friendly but if I let him run around wild like that they're going to be a lot of problems. And it's not because he's a pitbul,l it's because he's a dog. As an owner of a potentially dangerous dog, and those big white dogs are pretty dangerous also, I realize IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL MY DOG
I have two German Shepherd’s and they’re absolutely capable of wreaking havoc. This woman shouldn’t have dogs….letting a puppy have puppies. Disgusting
Why is she incapable of realizing her 30 pound dog BARKING caused the cow to die, from the stress. It sounded like she was running a puppy mill. She did not care about that dog. Especially bc she didn’t lock it up.
A guardian dog great pyrenees? Not trained, plus a border collie they are the closest to dealing with wolfs. Smh, they have to socialize with livestock and have good temperaments. 😢
Knowing the defendant was wrong after the first warning and didn't like where the case was going for her, she decided to just bash him further with information to further tarnish his current status with decades old events to swing the Judges decision in her favor. Shame on her and her dog paid the ultimate price, the he'll with her feelings.
I don't know the circumstances of the area they live in but they don't have a lot of neighbors nearby, if he doesn't know for sure it was her dog that killed his cattle then he shouldn't have killed the dog. But obviously it was her dog because that was the dog that was shot and killed, so her dogs were going after his cows killing the pregnant ones so
The defendant is a moron. You have to keep your dogs on your property. Period. Can't believe she tried to defend herself in this case. Obviously she is at fault.
People don’t understand that herding dogs will be disqualified from herding by any reputable breeder/farmer for aggression. There’s a HUGE difference between nipping and herding
The Judge gave him less for what the cow was worth. That's not for her to decided when he have a bill of sale for her other 3. Not giving anything for the calf I understand because it seemed like he didn't bring any pictures. But just $2k for that one was a bit unfair in my opinion.
Why do people insist on getting working dogs and not work them. Border Collies are like any other herding dogs, they have an abundance of energy which needs to released and very high intelligence, if they aren't trained properly and worked they will use that energy to escape. What will she do when one of her dogs chasers after a coyote and runs into a hungry bear with cubs? I have known a few people who have owned kelpies and blue heelers because they want an Australian dog and then had nothing but problems, always escaping, snappy and aggressive.
The defendant shouldn't have any type of animals!! She should have paid for both cows especially after he presented the picture showing she was still not containing them.
Where I live felony convictions are a different dynamic when you are a farmer or involved with agriculture or livestock. I'm not 100 but I think they're allowed to have a shotgun for only those purposes. On a somewhat related note she only brought up the felony conviction as a smear campaign. Not only was it a felony conviction It's considered a violent crime. If she truly felt a certain kind of way about that she would have already let somebody know in the department of corrections not a TV judge. No offense judge lol
What’s so sad about the Defendant is she doesn’t see her wrong
She gasped like she didn’t know the dog was shot until court 🤔
😂😂😂😂
Fake ass gasp
RIGHT BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS LOVE PLAYING VICTIM IT'S JUST SICKENING....
That was her sister and I was like oh he we go with the theatrics
Yeah, thought the same.
It's crazy how someone will hold your past and try and throw it in your face to get out of responsibility!! That man did his time and being productive in this world!! Glad it didn't work!
TOTALLY you know damn well the defendant just made up the details of his case by saying he tried to kill a judge. You know TPC runs full background checks on all the people that go before JM for her safety.
13:02 Dogs killing, or attempting to kill livestock are able to be put down by the livestock owner.
People who try to demonize defense of yourself or your property are so manipulative. Defendant had no control of her dogs and didn’t care after multiple warnings
She was using them for breeding purposes! So of course she didn't care for the dog's.
@@dunkinjunkie5868right!! She even said when Gracie didn't come home she thought she was hiding in the woods from the male dogs that were trying to breed her again after just having puppies a month prior. I'm sorry, if your female dog has to run off and hide in the woods enough to make a common habit out of it, there's something extremely wrong
@@bethcarico7549 Yes something very wrong, and sadly the animals suffer because of it!
The plaintiff is a perfectly honest gentleman who paid his due to society for his former transgression therefore it's irrelevant to this case.
Much respect Mr. Loy
I was thinking the same thing!! If he did time for his crime, DON'T mention it in this proceeding. She tried to make him look bad in the sight of JM. I wish he got everything he sued her for, but I get it.
It's not like she treated her dog very well either. She not only let it get into trouble. She forced the dog to flee and hide because she didn't have any containment/peace for her away from the males.
The plaintiff was protecting his animals.
She also said the female was only "about a year old" and had given birth around a month older. She didn't care about that dog other than as a payday. That woman shouldn't own dogs, let alone breed them!
@@jenn_x. Absolutely agree. She's the type of person that thinks they are a good owner purely based on the fact that she's had many dogs in her life and that somehow makes her believe that she's entitled to own dogs. Unfortunately she's not the only one that thinks like this. I've seen many people who have absolutely no business owning any animals and we're horrible with their dogs but they always walk around with the "I've had dogs all my life. I know what I'm doing" attitude. And there's literally no reasoning with people like that. I just wish that we took the buying and selling of pets, and any animals, more seriously. I also wish that we changed society's super lax attitude towards owning animals. We should be way more thorough in making sure that the needs of the animal are met and that they can be properly cared for. We should also do background checks on people buying animals and they should have at least a basic knowledge of the animal they are wanting to get, as well as making sure that their lifestyle is compatible with that specific breed or species. Because up until now, we have set the br incredibly low. Any person can go by an animal from a pet store, breeder, or private party, with virtually zero oversight. They need no prior experience, knowledge or training and most people base their decision to get an animal based solely on superficial things such as they think it's cute, it's popular or trendy, or it looks tough, or they met another of the same breed and really liked it and wanted one for themselves, even though animals have their own personalities and temperaments. And unfortunately because so many people base their decision to take on the responsibility of owning an animal on these ridiculous superficial aspects instead of the important things that actually matter, they quickly realize that they got in over their heads and that's how we end up with so many abandoned animals and over full shelters.
Sorry for the rant... I could literally go on for days on how much this topic gets me going and I'm super passionate about it because I love animals and they deserve so much better than how we treat them.
@@sashabenoit1518 so many people think cos their uncle had a dog, they know all about dogs and how to train them. As an animal trainer, it drives me bonkers.
Yes! She said the female dog had puppies a month earlier, and she ran and hid in the woods because the other dogs were trying to mate with her.
Four-week-old puppies -- still nursing! -- and the defendant wouldn't protect her?
The defendant is a horrible dog owner.
@@michelehemlokhexwhite4310 Yes! It drives me absolutely crazy too! The logic some people have is just absurd. Just because you grew up with pets that your parents or relatives had, or your best friend had dogs growing up and you got along with them, doesn't automatically make you suitable to be an owner. But yet, so many think that way. And not only that but they fail to even consider if those people were actually good owners themselves and the fact that they were their main example growing up of what a dog owner should do, that would inevitably instill the bad habits of those people onto them and how they are as an owner. People tend to forget that being an owner is a big responsibility and not everyone is cut out to handle it, whether it be mentally, physically, or financially. This is why I'm so passionate and vocal about this because I'm sick of how society treats the ownership of animals and the severe lack of knowledge of how to properly care for different animals and their individual needs and temperaments. We have to change our attitudes about how we go about this because unfortunately, it's the animals who end up suffering from our ignorance and irresponsible practices. We're finally starting to take animal abuse and neglect more seriously, making it a capital offense but now we need to take who we give these animals to more seriously, so we can hopefully prevent, or at least lessen the amount of abuse and neglect by getting to the root of the problem before it gets to that point.
I could listen to the plaintiff talk all day about cows and farm life.
Me too ❤
that murderer who flies off the handle, shooting & killing at least one dog and that was convicted of attempted murder of at least one human?
I don’t know why but I enjoy comments on this particular show. 😂
@@sv5304yeah him. I could listen to him talk about farm life for hours also lol.
@@sv5304you obviously know nothing about what a cattle person is willing to do when a dog/coyote/wolves/ is stressing and killing their cattle. I love dogs, and animals, never killed a human and I would have done the same thing if her dogs kept pinning my cattle, stressing them, and causing them to die.
17:33 _"My dogs have been chasing his cows for YEARS"_
Years?! 😑🙄They shouldn't be chasing to begin with! Now if those dogs messed around and got _donkey-stomped_ or trampled by the cows, she would have played the victim card. She should not be having any dogs, let alone breeding any. 😒
*Her dogs should not be chasing anything like its a normal routine!*
She quickly dug her own grave....
The minute she said that she should have bern held liable for both cows and the cost of the calves. It's despicable
Control your dogs ...It is not ok to let them hurt another animal or person .
I live in a rural area and sold eggs for a living. I can tell you that once dogs know you have prey animals they will not stop. I had 2 dogs kill all but 4 of my 36 chickens. It destroyed my livelihood and the owners never paid a dime.
Can border collies kill cows?
@dodgek5270 In a pack of at least 2 for an adult, yes. Only takes 1 to kill a young one or calf.
There were 3 found harassing them at least twice, although one was a different breed. Livestock protection dogs are extremely powerful themselves as they guard against bear, coyote, wolf, wildcat, etc. They are no joke.
@adriennefindley4637 I don't think you answered my question at all. My question didn't involve the great Pyrenees nor did I ask about killing young cows. Again can an adult border collie kill an adult cow by itself?
@dodgek5270 yes it can. A cow can get stressed to death if cornered. Bulls usually not, but heifers, yep.
@@dodgek5270they can. Especially pregnant heifers. They were within a month of giving birth. Stress like that can easily cause heart attacks in big pregnant animals. And boarder collies are relentless at hearing and pestering cattle/sheep/goats. It's bred I to them to try and herd animals. They will also try and herd children running and nip their ankles to keep them in line.
Paired with a great pryernees garden dog. That's asking for trouble.
Her attitude about this is audacious
Hold on a sec.. she said the plaintiff didn't say anything about the cows until after he shot the dog.. then 6 minutes later... she admits he did tell her.
Anyone sympathizing with the defendant doesn't understand the law. He was leasing that land. When a dog or any animal you own becomes a threat to another's livestock, be it chickens, cows, goats or sheep or whatever, that person has a right to eliminate that threat and be compensated for the damages. You keep your animals on your own property.
All around animal abuser
Exactly! The only one who has no business having animals is the defendant. She didn't properly control her animals. The plaintiff had every right in the law to do what he did to protect his livestock.
He lost alot of money 2 cows n calf
I agree 100%!
I don’t appreciate people that make money off of breeding dogs, and not keeping their dogs contained knowing that your neighbor has livestock!
I think most people are just sympathetic towards the dog itself, not so much the Defendant. Like JM said, the dog was just being a dog but it was the unwillingness and negligence of the Defendant to not contain her dogs and therefore, the dog suffered the consequences for its owners lack of due diligence and responsibility.
It's sad any animal should be killed--but the dogs killed the cow first, and continually harassed the cows. I am a dog lover but this man had the right to protect his livestock on his land. Hearing the goats had their ears chewed off by another one of her dogs made me sick. The defendant took no responsibility for any of her dogs..."my dogs have been chasing his cows for YEARS"!
Dude was hard core. I guess don't mess with his whife.
Sounds like the guy messing with his wife won't be messing with anyone's wife ever again!!!
@@1967davethewaveright some people learn the hard way🤷🏼♂️
@@assetprotection5389 Man that ain't no lie!
Hell, imma look him up in the Arkansas records.. 😆 I wanna read about it
Or his cows.
My dogs have been chasing his cows for YEARS? Shame on you lady!!!
She just said that Gracie was about a year old but that she'd just had puppies a month prior. Dogs are pregnant about 2 months. So she bred her when she was 9 months old, which is awful! She also said the dog was running bcs the males kept trying to breed with her which means she provided no protection for her! She shouldn't be allowed to own dogs! Horrible!
I caught that too. Who breeds a 1 yo dog.
@@iris-nx1wtanimal abusers. 😔
Totally agree. She's horrible and she doesn't care about any animals.
Why wouldn't he get the money for the 1st cow? He testified with witness corroboration that the dogs were a problem before and he told her. She's lying about not knowing about the 1st time.
She is incredibly irresponsible with animals to let the dogs loose like that and not even pay attention to what is going on. He's actively taking care of and protecting his livestock. She should be ashamed
Ridiculous verdict. She should have paid for all the cows he lost.
The minute she said my dog been chasing his cows for years that's when she should have paid for both heifers and both calves. That's a good $8000 or more in damages.
My daughter got a Great Pyrenees to protect her livestock. It killed her chickens so she gave it away. Not all are great protectors. She got another one who is a sweetheart. He is so docile and loving I'm unsure if he would run off prey, but his size and presence might scare them off. All dogs in a specific breed are not equal.
They have to be trained to
@@Void28368 Yes, they may need to be trained. But I feel the biggest item is the dog's demeanor and spirit. Ghost, my daughter's 2nd dog has a kind spirit...no training necessary.
‘My cows are not moooye bien’ 😂😂😂😂. This one made my day
First one i laughed at
17:34 "My dogs have been chasing his cows for years." If I was JM, that confession would cause me to order her to pay for both cows.
The fact that the cows were pregnant made me so sad
This lady wants to be a victim so bad. Lady take responsibility. Your dogs are running wild and that man is sick of it.
The look on JMs face when she says he tried to blow up a judge!
That comment had no business being made for this case. I am concerned however that a felon has possession of a gun.
@@AlisMarsaili1351Every felon has a gun these days.
@@AlisMarsaili1351😅😂 all felons have guns.. criminals don’t follow laws 🤷🏼♀️
I don't believe that was true
It was only to discredit the guy suing
@@marymccullough4246 you are correct!
I want to address the dogs chewing of the goats ears. She claimed it was a whippet but I don't believe it. Whippets are made of tissue and wooden chopsticks. The amount of whippets that I've seen working in vets that break their legs from jumping off a couch is incredible. I doubt they would have gotten to chew ears off goats without getting broken bones. A woman who doesnt know where her dogs are most of the time will not have a good track record of training her dogs imo.
People who refuse to believe that their dogs are capable of violence are idiots.
She took advantage of the fact that her family owned the land
Just want to add border collies are only good herders if you train them . All untrained dogs can be vicious. It is never an excuse to let untrained dogs unsupervised.
This defendant is in denial. She is totally responsible for this mans loss. I'm a dog lover, but this man did what he had to do to save his livestock. Bringing up his past is horrible. She's despicable.
Horrible situation but dogs act different ways when in a pack...
I like the old man. Honest.
The plaintiff appears to be extremely honest. Commendable
Farm guy here, livestock gaurdian dogs are trained to do their jobs and they are very specific about it too. Dogs aren't just born to do something if they aren't trained to. If you trained a great Pyrenees to gaurd chickens and chickens only there's no guarantees he wont kill the goats if you out him in the goats pen thats just not what hes been trained to do
That 2000 win for the plaintiff has the defendant blinking like crazy 😂😂😂😂
I watched this a few years ago… I’m just as shocked as the first time.
Good case
Shocked??? About not getting $ for both cows? I thought so to but i understand why....
Yes, good case. I've never seen a case like this one - interesting.
Well that lady is definitely a narcissist. Blaming everyone else. Me, me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine, mine. My dogs wouldn't kill his cows. Well she wasn't with her dogs 24/7. If she had been, none of this wouldn't have happened. That old man is a good ole boy. She wants to bring his prison time up. He did his time. He wasn't hurting a soul until he had to shoot a dog. He was protecting what was his. Plain and simple.
Poor pup was only a year and was already on her first liter 😡
I completely understand the plaintiff! I would have done the same thing.
She should've had to pay for both cows
the defendant tried to throw that in there, he tried to blow up a judge in there knowing she was lying.
If he had a neighbour that previously informed him about her dogs barking at his cows, before there ever was a death, and he mentioned it to her, then why is she not liable for the first cow's death? And why wasn't she liable for the death of the calves?...
If not properly trained border collies can absolutely go into fixation/kill mode. This lady should NOT be breeding dogs if she doesn't know the breed and its behavioral issues fully.
Defendant sounds like a former smoker, almost giving me Patty and Selma Bouvier vibes.
I’m only 47 and at 20…. Every job I had people all smoked inside. It was considered normal 😂
I think the judge was wrong here as the first incident happened before the cow died inside the pen. She should have been awarded both.
The fact that the defendant thought his record was gonna help her. Like, boo, he owned that! "I meant what I said, and said what I meant!" He did his time and moved past all that and started up a good life, then you show up and intrude on that with all your entitlement because it was your mama's property....
My great-uncle raised sheep. Anytime a dog came on his property he'd shoot them. This always horrified me as a dog lover. The point is don't let your dogs run lose. If my dogs are outside, they are always on a leash. One of mine got lose one day and I called off work and chased him all over town. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if he came to any harm.
Damn where yall living with these ranchers 😭 The amount of animals that escape ranchers and people don’t go off shooting those. Glad our ranchers and farmers around here are decent human beings.
Time to switch to cats. No problems ever
@@TopherGrant wandering cats aren't welcome in my yard either. I will let my dog get them.
@@anacondaadultlearningcente4522 cool story bro
I had a Great Pyrenees and I caught him harassing a horse. Herding dog is trained to guard sheep, ducks, and cows. This lady's dogs were not trained. I side with the plaintiff.
Some horses are not nice to dogs, lol...
She allowed them dogs to run, feeling that’s her mamas land! Pitiful
She should not ever be allowed to have animals. How disgustingly irresponsible. And she doesn't even get how incredibly wrong she is. It sucks that that dog died, but that was entirely her fault.
Milian was wrong. Plaintiff should have received monies for the original attack. The irresponsible defendant acknowledged that she let her dogs run free and that they had been over on his property before. Defendant should never, never, never be allowed to own a dog. She is completely irresponsible. Border collies and great pyrenees are two breeds that crave training and a responsibility/job.
She was warned over and over ! I believe every single word he said
"My dogs have been chasing his cows for years."
Years.
Come on, lady!
Defendant states the dog didn't bite the cows. The stress of a continual physical threat over many hours is so harmful to a pregnant cow. The cow can't go to water or graze during the harassment. Its an all day marathon with a high heart rate and adrenalin becomes fatal.
This crazed lady trying to blame a dang whippet for chewing a goats ears off!!😅
Feed and train your damn dogs lady!! Stop being lazy. Border collies attacking cows like a wolf is wild to me. She probably has no training for them and probably doesn’t feed them enough.
There’s a lot of semantics to this case, however, I notice a lot of people downplay the importance of one’s livestock. it is a livelihood and it is what a lot of these people bet their lives on each and every year. You protect Your livelihood.
not just that. These animals are as entitled to care and security as any pet.
He might be a hothead but if she knew that then she should have kept her dogs home
Exactly!!
This lady is horrible, breeding a dog at 1 years old, letting her dogs hurt livestock and roam, she should not have any animals unlike breed them.
Agreed. I missed that the first time through and went back because of your comment. She should not be breeding at that age!
He should have got the cost of both cows. Ridiculous verdict. Of course he had every right to protect his property and kill the dog. (What was it doing away from her month old puppies and why had she been bread when she was only a year old???)
No, she wasn’t aware of the problem, however the second time she was on notice and warned
@@ElLiSe..She knew from the beginning, she admits it @11:22. He should have received everything he sued for, even the judge missed that part.
Don't let your dogs out! There is nothing in the law that says she had to be aware of the problem.@@ElLiSe..
This is heartbreaking all around.
Agreed 😢
He warned her too many times and I love dogs.
Shouldn't he be reimbursed for both cows? They're considered property, and her dogs destroyed them. Why do you need notice before you can be held responsible?
I feel like the recess she took was to research whether he had conspired to bomb a judge's vehicle . She normally announces what she's going to do on recess, but here she didn't.
This guy is speaking with my grandfather's voice.
Anyone who has ever farmed knows that if any animal is a threat to your livestock or animals your gonna handle your business. Even if that means pew pew you protect your property. And just because the defendants dogs were working dogs doesn't mean they won't attact another animal. Her dogs were raised around sheep not cows once an animal gets the taste for blood you can't change them. And that man has done his time for what he was charged with the defendant lied and said he was charged with attempted murder of a judge just to get a reaction from JM and make him look bad. Believe it when I tell you TPC runs a full background check on every litigant that goes before JM they do this for her safety.
Doug said to the lady that he feels sorry for the loss of her dog, but he didn't say anything like that for the man's 2 cows + the 2 calves they were carrying. Unbelievable
Her dogs are her responsibility. They got out killed his cows. She is at fault.
The “you know, I don’t know” defense.
Damn this is real life Yellowstone 😂
They werent told it was a judge. Like cmon now. They tried that one!
Herding dogs do attack what they’re protecting. Had it happen here on my farm. They are animals period and he can protect his animals
I have a pitbull.
He's very nice and friendly but if I let him run around wild like that they're going to be a lot of problems. And it's not because he's a pitbul,l it's because he's a dog.
As an owner of a potentially dangerous dog, and those big white dogs are pretty dangerous also, I realize IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL MY DOG
Well said, I have a pitbull and I feel the same way. And I do just that.
I have two German Shepherd’s and they’re absolutely capable of wreaking havoc. This woman shouldn’t have dogs….letting a puppy have puppies. Disgusting
The Defendant needs to take responsibility for her dogs or they could suffer the same fate.
Q: What do you call a herd of Cows spying on another herd of Cows?? A: A Steak Out 🤣😂😎🐄🐄
Q: What do you call a person who makes jokes when someone's cattle (livelihood) has been killed? A: *Black-hearted and ignorant.*
What do you call a herd of cows laying down? Ground beef.
Y'all.. 💀
Why is she incapable of realizing her 30 pound dog BARKING caused the cow to die, from the stress. It sounded like she was running a puppy mill. She did not care about that dog. Especially bc she didn’t lock it up.
Wow! She really brought up his record!
A guardian dog great pyrenees? Not trained, plus a border collie they are the closest to dealing with wolfs. Smh, they have to socialize with livestock and have good temperaments. 😢
Someone get that lady a glass of water. 8:20
Mrs. Peacock gasped when the Plaintiff said he shot the dog between the eyes....
Knowing the defendant was wrong after the first warning and didn't like where the case was going for her, she decided to just bash him further with information to further tarnish his current status with decades old events to swing the Judges decision in her favor. Shame on her and her dog paid the ultimate price, the he'll with her feelings.
I don't know the circumstances of the area they live in but they don't have a lot of neighbors nearby, if he doesn't know for sure it was her dog that killed his cattle then he shouldn't have killed the dog. But obviously it was her dog because that was the dog that was shot and killed, so her dogs were going after his cows killing the pregnant ones so
I agree with the plaintiff. Regardless of his felony.
Put up a fence
I had six of those heifers 😂 I just ❤️ it we call people down south heifers too when they piss you off
My favorite word lol
Sure do. I say it all the time 😂
Sure do. I say it all the time 😂
That guy doesn't play !!
Nope
The defendant is a moron. You have to keep your dogs on your property. Period. Can't believe she tried to defend herself in this case. Obviously she is at fault.
People don’t understand that herding dogs will be disqualified from herding by any reputable breeder/farmer for aggression. There’s a HUGE difference between nipping and herding
“Just what we were told”=made it up
The plantiff passed away 1/22/24 0:31
sad. He seemed like a good honest hardworking man. May he rest in peace.
Well at least you know this guy isn’t some poser rancher.
The Judge gave him less for what the cow was worth. That's not for her to decided when he have a bill of sale for her other 3. Not giving anything for the calf I understand because it seemed like he didn't bring any pictures. But just $2k for that one was a bit unfair in my opinion.
These poor animals.
I know 😢😢😢
Why do people insist on getting working dogs and not work them. Border Collies are like any other herding dogs, they have an abundance of energy which needs to released and very high intelligence, if they aren't trained properly and worked they will use that energy to escape. What will she do when one of her dogs chasers after a coyote and runs into a hungry bear with cubs? I have known a few people who have owned kelpies and blue heelers because they want an Australian dog and then had nothing but problems, always escaping, snappy and aggressive.
How the hell does a 30lb border collie kill a cow? I had a 40lb border collie and there is no way she could have tackled a cow!
Un-trained, or ill trained herding and guardian dogs can and will harass livestock. Plaintiff had every right to dispose of the dogs
The defendant shouldn't have any type of animals!! She should have paid for both cows especially after he presented the picture showing she was still not containing them.
Where I live felony convictions are a different dynamic when you are a farmer or involved with agriculture or livestock. I'm not 100 but I think they're allowed to have a shotgun for only those purposes.
On a somewhat related note she only brought up the felony conviction as a smear campaign. Not only was it a felony conviction It's considered a violent crime. If she truly felt a certain kind of way about that she would have already let somebody know in the department of corrections not a TV judge. No offense judge lol
I wonder if she called the law for him having a gun as a convicted felon
You know damn well she was snitching on him.
Oh I'm sure she did!
Probably, but in rural areas, if it's a farmer and he's not hurting anyone, they usually turn a blind eye.