Twoi rodzice z pewnoscia sluchali tez pocztowek dzwiekowych, ktore tloczylem. Praca w Polskich Nagraniach byla tylko dodatkiem przy tloczeniu LP ABBY. Na codzien pracowalem w dziale nagran na Srebrnej 16 w budynku na miejscu ktorego Jarek chcial stawiac 2 wieze. Tam tloczylismy pocztowki dzwiekowe. Budynek dalej stoi a drukarni i nagran nie ma. Piekne to byly czasy i zarobki bardzo dobre.
When you see an artist has been awarded a silver or gold disc, it is these metal press masters that they receive. Press masters are made from gold alloy when an album needs to have its release extended due to high sales. Hence why they are awarded for higher sales. Same goes for platinum discs too.
I forget where, but a guy here on YT actually played one of the award records. Don't remember if it was platinum or gold, but the music that it played wasn't even close to the artist that received the record. I think it was a rock album, but the actual music was some kind of rap or R&B. I thought that was pretty funny too.
@@robertschemonia5617It's because these have more a symbolic nature than anything else. No one would want to play them. At least not the one who receives it because he got the digital studio master.
@@jonasklose6472 it’s literally just because they’re cheap, whether or not someone would want to play them is irrelevant to the actual thing. as it is they just throw random junk records they have lying around and plate them gold, which makes it become as shallow a gesture as it seems.
@@anthonymorales842 Anything that can't be discerned by the human eye without a microscope. The bumps on the inside are microscopic, as the track is only ~80 microns wide.
@@nsfpeace3442 it's really unlikely to come of if it's pressed into the material rather than glued on after. Most records, as far as I know, are produced in this way.
@@nsfpeace3442 Generally cheap fragile, crummy pressings have an adhered label vs. a pressed label. The pressed label becomes part of the pressing. This type lasts longer and is less likely to come off or be lifted from the edge; as the edge is embedded in the pressing.
Records made from the cheaper material styrene (material commonly used in model kits) had glued labels, they weren’t too common as they weren’t as durable. Mostly used for 7 inch singles
Попадали мне матрицы для пластинок в металлоломе. Пачками связанные. Делали их из никеля. Давно это было,в те года когда люди верили в светлое будущее...😮
I have a tizer advert from a magazine when I was a kid it's about as thick and strong as a playing card but pop it on and it still plays lol. Love records
@monotheis6889 see if you remember the little car I have that came with one , it has a needle on the bottom and a small speaker . you put it on top of the record and it drives round from start to Finnish playing the record en route. Ruins ur record like but sick for the 70s
Yeah, it's hard to beat a well-pressed and clean vinyl record for sound quality too. Digital can only sample so much (and if you tried to sample more, the file size would exponentially increase) whereas vinyl allows you to have literal molecular detail
Well, it's not compared to the info that was actually there in the first place and what could be easily put into digital form with 2-3 magnitudes higher accuracy. Or it is, compared to how bad human hearing is. (Oh something triggered my old fragile signal processing engineer's heart...a pitiful display...I know)
То есть, картриджевые картриджи и флешевые флешки можно не ждать, продолжая читать книжные книжки и журнальные журналы, изредка перемежая их учебными учебниками и брошуристыми брошюрами? Тогда может хотя бы перфокартные перфокарты и дискетные дискеты станут производить быстрее, чем SSDшные HDD и HDDшные SSD?
Мне нравится смотреть как аудиофильские аудиофилы тратят свои денежные деньги на мечту послушать настоящий звук. Только понять не могут своими ушастыми ушами,что натуральный звук рояля может воспроизвести настоящий рояльный рояль....
@@СергейФ-н2ь филателисты это коллекционеры, они не задалбливают никого своими марками, в марках нет маркетинга и вранья, марки старинные и редкие, ценность истории. Аудиофильство это скорее какое-то психологическое расстройство, ну как у больных, слышать то чего нет. И эту болезнь обостряют бесстыжие продаваны барахла за бешеные деньги. Барахло это моё обоснованное заявление, т.к. в отличии от тех же марок, это новодел из Поднебесной. Людям лечиться надо, а на них ещё деньги делают. Вот почему это и смешно и не смешно одновременно. А про цифровую запись я сказал верно. Поэтому все эти остальные проводочки и побрякушки полностью обесцениваются, даже если бы они имели некие магические свойства!
I actually started working in a record making company in toronto about a month ago. The first half of this video is usually handled by a seperate department in the same company. The process is called "electroplating". They essentially make stampers with the required audio files . The second half is where machine operators install the mentioned stampers into their machines and press hot pvc plastic pucks into them to create the record. The last machine you see is just a trimmer.
Didyou see how they recored on the first Vinyl ? The whole band was sitting in a room playing into a tube while the needle carved the waves. That's so amazing.
@@Timoffejj___RU я внимательно пересмотрел глазами изо всех сил этот ролик несколько раз, и хочу отметить что пластинчатось пластинок недостаточно пластинчатая
@@infowox, Ну вы же понимаете, что вы смотрите фильм, а не процесс в "натуре", так сказать. В фильме может быть масса погрешностей, неудачных ракурсов, кривые руки оператора, дурная голова бухого монтажëра, неправильные соотношения сторон кадра, искажения форм, размеров, пропорций и пластинчатости этих пластинок, и т.п. Оптический обман тоже надо учитывать, дорогой товарисч.
I still can't figure out how they get all those different sounds to imprint on one small track of metal or vinyl depending if it's the master or not. It's a little groove that a fucking needle drags against then produces drums, guitar, bass, vocals, and anything else you can imagine!! It's pretty fucking amazing!
@@KMAK88 I just don't understand how they take vocals or anything really then somehow figure out the exact grooves to put in vinyl to replicate the exact sound. I'll have to look into it later tonight. It's bugging me again.
@@RegurgiNate84 They don't figure out the exact grooves, the stylus is responding to the sound and cutting the grooves in first part. There is nothing to figure out in terms of the grooves. The grooves are just how the stylus was vibrating. You don't even have to have grooves, you can have a series of bumps. The grooves are a by-product of the vibrating stylus.
Я правильно понимаю. Они записали мелодию на мягкий материал потом обработали, покрыли металлом так получилось клише для музыки и только потом давят пластик который покрывает поверхность и на ней отпечатываеться медодия.
That metal record is what's called a "dub plate" or acetate... an exciting part of dj culture was seeing a "dub" get dropped because you knew it was a new track that hasn't been heard yet. These plates were pressed in extremely limited quantities (most often only 1) to be able to see the crowds response to the new track before mass producing on vinyl.
@@ПавелПрохоров-р9ш , им нравятся посторонние шумы. А так надо давно уже признать, что механический съем информации плохой метод. В цифре всё хорошо сохраняется, если конечно не мп3.
With my band we released an album on black as well as on blue marbled vinyl (did quite well, thanks!). And it sort of surprised me that before pressing vinyl we actually had to do a remix/remaster first, to make it sound as good as possible on that medium... So there was a fair bit of additional money involved into making vinyl records - but well worth it!! They are lovely to listen to...
Нихрена, они цифровым прибором делают запись на аналоге. В идеале должна быть аналоговая запись на аналоговый носитель. Они тупо mp3 с компа пишут на винил. Это даже и близко не соответствует старому способу.
Watch the full video (link in the pinned response), this is just an excerpt, the whole process is even more involved and has like fifteen more high-precision steps.
Ich kann mich erinnern, dass ich Märchenbücher von Disney im Format A3 geschenkt bekam und hinten drin befand sich eine Schallplatte. Sie war kleiner als die normale, aber etwas größer als eine Single mit dem kompletten Märchen bespielt. Das war ungefähr 1967/68
Those aren't the actual sound waves. Those waves need to be heavily modified and preprocessed before they can be etched into a vinyl record. RIAA equalization being the most important. Each step in the process irreversibly changes the waveform and also adds noise and distortion. The belief that vinyl records produce a "natural" sound is unfounded.
Бывают, но их производят на другой фабрике. На этой фабрике производят только пластинчатые, узкая специализация. Просто рынок жёстко поделен, каждый производится свой вид пластинок, кто то пластинчатые, иные сферические, другие кубические пластинки.
@@Specter690655 Миньоны назывались. А ещё на курортах, в том числе и у нас, в Пятигорске, можно было записать звуковую открытку. Я как то посылал такую своей двоюродной сестре, в Москву.
Yes. But I sometimes think recipes are the greatest creation of mankind. Put good wine, good food and good music together and you're living like a king.
Nope. The CD beats vinyl records in audio fidelity. It even beats the analog tapes used for master recordings. But few people understand the technology.
After looking at this process I don't see why they should be more expensive than plastic plates. My dad worked in the PET bottle business and the process is pretty much the same.
The positives wear out faster and need to be replaced. If a plate mould gets a scratch it's no big deal, if a record positive gets damaged it's useless.
I mean you don't really. They sound fine the only real reason people like them over other storage mediums is cause of nostalgia or they're lying to themselves.
@@batt3ryac1d I don't think they mean quality of music, I think they mean that music in general is wonderful and that it is being played through a pvc disk with grooves makes it more "wonderful." I could be wrong
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First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches. They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice. Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it and spits on it. They cut the fleeb. There's several hizzards in the way. The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the plubis, and grumbo are shaved away. That leaves you with... a regular old vinyl.
My first job after high school was at a record manufacturing plant, pressing records. That’s where I met my future wife. She was in quality control. She was constantly coming by to check me out. Well, checking my records, anyway. Still together, 45 years later. We outlasted the record industry. However, the plant is still there pumping out records for a much smaller market.
The thing that all these audiophiles don’t know is the vinyl is made using a digital file and digital equipment lol. Digital has been better for long time now anyway.
Ндаа, помню сколько этих пластинок выкинули на свалку - не сосчитать, это супер ноу хау было в СССР уже в 50е годы, и синих - тонких, и чёрных - жестких пластинок для патифонов было в каждом доме уйма, и стоили они копейки в магазине Мелодия на проспекте Кирова в Саратове, там ещё спортмагазин был, один в городе.
I love it. It's so cool to know that so much care is taken by human hands to complete. A vinyl record is such a fun thing to own and listen to. But all different types of music delivery methods are relevant in my opinion. They all have something to offer. But I prefer vinyl for feel and presence. Digital is great for listening and nuance clarity. But it's cold. Etc etc.
I don't think I'd rather listen to a modern song recorded with old equipment, old microphones, bad sound quality, a lot of white noise in the background, etc. I believe that nowadays vinyls are recorded first with state of the art digital equipment, and then you proceed to produce the vinyl. So it's quite different a vinyl from 1950s, than a vinyl today in terms of recording, sound quality, etc.
Digital being "cold" is entirely subjective, and not a legitimate distinction. For literal purposes, digital is superior to vinyl in every measurable metric.
@@rodolfolaravaldes1627The recording process is entirely analog, and it can only be analog. There's no such thing as digital recording, only digital conversion - the difference being at what stage of the process the conversion will occur. In any case, vinyls these days are not substantially better than vinyls of the old days, as the maximum quality of vinyl as a medium was already reached with the equipment of the day. Believe it or not, studio-based audio equipment in the 60s, 70s and 80s wasn't much different from what is available today, the real difference is the price point. Whereas one may need to spend thousands of dollars on hifi studio speakers in the 80s, for example, modern speakers can be approximately equivalent for a few hundred.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 I have old vinyls and they sound really bad. Even, I listen to songs produced 15 years ago and compared to a song released yesterday, the sound quality is really different. I don't know if microphones and ADCs are just cheaper, or they keep improving (In my experience, music keeps sounding better and better. I don't think we reached the maximum quality we can produce). What I meant was, that you record directly on the computer, and then from a wav you prouce the vinyl. I don't know if thats the way to do it, or if you do two recordings, one with a computer for CD and streaming, and you do another whole recording with old equipment to produce the vinyl.
@@rodolfolaravaldes1627 Sure, older vinyls can sound worse, but this is generally due to wear. Properly preserved records should still sound perfectly normal. There shouldn't be any difference in the format's quality itself going back 15 years, the difference you're hearing is from the actual audio processing being done during production and is unrelated to the audio format being used. Microphones themselves stagnated, and are not significantly different from decades passed. Improvement is possible with diminishing returns, and mics have been about as good as they could get since the 80s with very tiny improvements leading to better energy efficiency and lower operational temps. ADCs however, HAVE seen massive improvements as have the DACs being used. These days, cheap and widely-affordable ADC/DACs are about as good as multi-thousand dollar ADC/DACs from 15-20 years ago. Music sounding better and better is much more a factor of how it is processed during the production stage, rather than the constraints of the format (vinyl, tape, CD, etc). To answer your question, modern vinyls of modern songs are produced from the stereo WAV of the original studio master. Some remasters are done using vintage equipment, and some re-pressings are done using WAV studio masters. It all depends, but none of these should result in audible difference unless they've been remastered.
Hey so its a little hard to get information on Vinyl stuff so i wanna ask, if you get metal records Will that damage your record player? I guess another question would be, Do they deteriorate much like your common vinyl or do they stay intact longer?
Well the answer is that they don't have anywhere near perfect sound. For comparison, the precision of a CD (16 bits) is roughly equivalent to a vinyl being pressed to the precision of individual atoms. I am not joking.
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Пластинчастых пластинок???😂
@@KushVgr откуда вы это берете? На английском все нормально.
@@martinjakobson8835 Автоперевод.
Пластиковых плоских перфорированных предметов производящих при помощи преобразования ... продолжайте
there's a rec o kut record cutter in one of Frank Sinatras houses....it cuts directly to a vinyl disk....
In '77 I worked on such a press in Poland, pressing ABBA records for company Polskie Nagrania
DZENKUJE ZA TWOJA ROBOTE, MOJE RODZICE MAJA NAPEWNO WASZE PLYTY. JE NIESTETY BYLEM URODZINY 1977 ROKU🎉🎉🎉
Twoi rodzice z pewnoscia sluchali tez pocztowek dzwiekowych, ktore tloczylem. Praca w Polskich Nagraniach byla tylko dodatkiem przy tloczeniu LP ABBY. Na codzien pracowalem w dziale nagran na Srebrnej 16 w budynku na miejscu ktorego Jarek chcial stawiac 2 wieze. Tam tloczylismy pocztowki dzwiekowe. Budynek dalej stoi a drukarni i nagran nie ma. Piekne to byly czasy i zarobki bardzo dobre.
@@gemini6004 времена то может и хорошие были, а вот качество польских пластинок отвратное.
Без обид. Мелодия тоже не айс но всё же лучше.
@@vbifyz9995 rusku idź lepiej walczyć z ukrainą
@@gemini6004 Но сейчас же лучше однозначно? В ЕС и в НАТО не может быть хуже, чем при социализме!?😅
When you see an artist has been awarded a silver or gold disc, it is these metal press masters that they receive. Press masters are made from gold alloy when an album needs to have its release extended due to high sales. Hence why they are awarded for higher sales. Same goes for platinum discs too.
@notfiveo how is that comment relevant to what I said? I don't understand what your saying.
I forget where, but a guy here on YT actually played one of the award records. Don't remember if it was platinum or gold, but the music that it played wasn't even close to the artist that received the record. I think it was a rock album, but the actual music was some kind of rap or R&B. I thought that was pretty funny too.
@@robertschemonia5617It's because these have more a symbolic nature than anything else. No one would want to play them. At least not the one who receives it because he got the digital studio master.
@@jonasklose6472 it’s literally just because they’re cheap, whether or not someone would want to play them is irrelevant to the actual thing. as it is they just throw random junk records they have lying around and plate them gold, which makes it become as shallow a gesture as it seems.
Do you know rhat the bumps on that disc are mirror reversed? That is why.
The fact that heated plastic is able to mimic the shape of the nearly microscopic bumps inside the grooves circling the record is amazing.
Are they really microscopic
@@readmydescription5533 They're definitely NEARLY so.
@@readmydescription5533 what should the threshold of microscopic be
@@anthonymorales842 Anything that can't be discerned by the human eye without a microscope.
The bumps on the inside are microscopic, as the track is only ~80 microns wide.
@@readmydescription5533 Yes, and If you're a bot. Bad bot/spammer.
This is a proper pressing. Note that the label is placed upon the puck before the press actually happens! Super high quality.
what is the benefit of placing the label prior to pressing?
@@nsfpeace3442 it's really unlikely to come of if it's pressed into the material rather than glued on after. Most records, as far as I know, are produced in this way.
@@nsfpeace3442 Generally cheap fragile, crummy pressings have an adhered label vs. a pressed label. The pressed label becomes part of the pressing. This type lasts longer and is less likely to come off or be lifted from the edge; as the edge is embedded in the pressing.
Interesting! Thank you
Records made from the cheaper material styrene (material commonly used in model kits) had glued labels, they weren’t too common as they weren’t as durable. Mostly used for 7 inch singles
Попадали мне матрицы для пластинок в металлоломе. Пачками связанные. Делали их из никеля. Давно это было,в те года когда люди верили в светлое будущее...😮
Верить мало. Надо еще головой думать
@djohardudaev95
Так моя голова не только для шапки да в неё есть...
И куда эти матрицы пошли?)
@Smlnzv
Как лежали в куче металла так там и остались...
Я вырос на Апрелевском заводе грампластинок, все это для меня родное)
The best invention for a kid of the early 90’s was cutting out a record on the back of a cornflakes packet :)
I have a tizer advert from a magazine when I was a kid it's about as thick and strong as a playing card but pop it on and it still plays lol. Love records
Heck yeah, Cereal box records. I remember those well 😊
What? I was born in 91 I don’t remember that
@dattepo7534 mate wtf lol in 91 they stopped making tapes and were selling cd's haha vynal was loooong gone by 91.
@monotheis6889 see if you remember the little car I have that came with one , it has a needle on the bottom and a small speaker . you put it on top of the record and it drives round from start to Finnish playing the record en route. Ruins ur record like but sick for the 70s
Its mindblowing how the detail is contained over so many steps
yep. Its an involved process that must go right at every step or you end up with a defective record.
Yeah, it's hard to beat a well-pressed and clean vinyl record for sound quality too. Digital can only sample so much (and if you tried to sample more, the file size would exponentially increase) whereas vinyl allows you to have literal molecular detail
Well, it's not compared to the info that was actually there in the first place and what could be easily put into digital form with 2-3 magnitudes higher accuracy.
Or it is, compared to how bad human hearing is.
(Oh something triggered my old fragile signal processing engineer's heart...a pitiful display...I know)
@@bastianschon7146 thts NOt what hes talking about though.
@@allotribus then there used to be a thing called quadrosound records...
このレコードの作り方が本当に美しいですね😊
Обожаю пластинчатые пластинки!
Пластинчатые пластинки, мой самый любимый формат
Жду когда начнут выпускать дисковые диски
Ну тогда и кассетные кассеты.
@@artphilips , тогда уж до кучи и бабины 😂😂😂
@@VelikayaRusia не просто бобины, а бобинчатые бобины. Это важно
@@eh1852 , на 47 минут, если скорость 19. 👍👍👍
То есть, картриджевые картриджи и флешевые флешки можно не ждать, продолжая читать книжные книжки и журнальные журналы, изредка перемежая их учебными учебниками и брошуристыми брошюрами? Тогда может хотя бы перфокартные перфокарты и дискетные дискеты станут производить быстрее, чем SSDшные HDD и HDDшные SSD?
Мне нравится смотреть как аудиофильские аудиофилы тратят свои денежные деньги на мечту послушать настоящий звук. Только понять не могут своими ушастыми ушами,что натуральный звук рояля может воспроизвести настоящий рояльный рояль....
Ага, а ещё на мастер пластинку происходит запись с цифрового источника а не с магнитофона. Вы им не говорите, а то совсем плохо станет от дисонанса
@@85v ахахахах согласен
эта нормальная тайна нормальных людей навсегда останется с нами
Меломаны слушают музыку. Аудиофилы - усилитель, провода и колонку.
Это просто хобби...
Вы над филателистами тоже прикалываетесь, за то что они коллекционируют маленькие бумажки?
@@СергейФ-н2ь филателисты это коллекционеры, они не задалбливают никого своими марками, в марках нет маркетинга и вранья, марки старинные и редкие, ценность истории. Аудиофильство это скорее какое-то психологическое расстройство, ну как у больных, слышать то чего нет. И эту болезнь обостряют бесстыжие продаваны барахла за бешеные деньги. Барахло это моё обоснованное заявление, т.к. в отличии от тех же марок, это новодел из Поднебесной. Людям лечиться надо, а на них ещё деньги делают. Вот почему это и смешно и не смешно одновременно. А про цифровую запись я сказал верно. Поэтому все эти остальные проводочки и побрякушки полностью обесцениваются, даже если бы они имели некие магические свойства!
I actually started working in a record making company in toronto about a month ago. The first half of this video is usually handled by a seperate department in the same company. The process is called "electroplating". They essentially make stampers with the required audio files . The second half is where machine operators install the mentioned stampers into their machines and press hot pvc plastic pucks into them to create the record. The last machine you see is just a trimmer.
Gracias por comentarnos los detalles.
@@marioperez9845 de nada mi amigo 😁
Why records names vinyl if it made from PVC ?
@@vilzewylcapitalowih3913 look up what pvc stands for, heres a hint, 1 of the words if vinyl ;)
Didyou see how they recored on the first Vinyl ? The whole band was sitting in a room playing into a tube while the needle carved the waves. That's so amazing.
this has always been a favorite method of production. so satisfying, so beautiful.
На фабричной фабрике, в корейской Корее производят пластинчатые пластинки😂👏
я думаю это проблема перевода
И эти пластинчатые пластинки у них выходят такими пластинчатыми, что буквально одна пластинчатее другой.
@@Timoffejj___RU я внимательно пересмотрел глазами изо всех сил этот ролик несколько раз, и хочу отметить что пластинчатось пластинок недостаточно пластинчатая
Егор Шарахов - это потому что перепластинчатость пластиночных пластинок недопустима как брак, со слишком пластинчатых пластинок соскальзывает игла ))
@@infowox,
Ну вы же понимаете, что вы смотрите фильм, а не процесс в "натуре", так сказать. В фильме может быть масса погрешностей, неудачных ракурсов, кривые руки оператора, дурная голова бухого монтажëра, неправильные соотношения сторон кадра, искажения форм, размеров, пропорций и пластинчатости этих пластинок, и т.п. Оптический обман тоже надо учитывать, дорогой товарисч.
Красивое производство!❤
I still can't figure out how they get all those different sounds to imprint on one small track of metal or vinyl depending if it's the master or not. It's a little groove that a fucking needle drags against then produces drums, guitar, bass, vocals, and anything else you can imagine!! It's pretty fucking amazing!
It's all vibrations
I don't get it either 😂
It’s actually very close to what happens to our ears while we listen
@@KMAK88
I just don't understand how they take vocals or anything really then somehow figure out the exact grooves to put in vinyl to replicate the exact sound. I'll have to look into it later tonight. It's bugging me again.
@@RegurgiNate84 They don't figure out the exact grooves, the stylus is responding to the sound and cutting the grooves in first part. There is nothing to figure out in terms of the grooves. The grooves are just how the stylus was vibrating. You don't even have to have grooves, you can have a series of bumps. The grooves are a by-product of the vibrating stylus.
It's amazing that billions of records were made like this, artisanally, by hand, one at a time.
And still are! I recently learned the joy of just getting to OWN music I enjoy and doing so with stuff that isn't super disposable like a CD.
The Masters are made by hand. The blue vinyle disks can be made very fast
The process is authentically magnificent..!!!
Процесс завораживает
Обожаю пластинчатые пластинки
а кубические кубики? Круглые кругляши?
Есть ещё масляное масло и мокрая вода!
Я правильно понимаю. Они записали мелодию на мягкий материал потом обработали, покрыли металлом так получилось клише для музыки и только потом давят пластик который покрывает поверхность и на ней отпечатываеться медодия.
Да, Сын Мой.
Не так,по ходу...наждачкой любую песню запишет!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@Jesus.Xristos
Только не клише, а матрица.
@@СергейКудрявцев-ц5зНаждачкой мелодию не пишут, только аранжировки.
Ведь где-то хранятся такие чистые оригиналы. Хотя железо ржавеет, думаю хот в супер качестве в mp3 будет храниться вечно !!!
"Ничего не вечно под Луной!" (c)
うらやましい。日本ではもうレコードも、ニードルもほとんど作ってないんです。私はレコード世代じゃないですが、あの独特の温度の音はとても好きです。なくなってほしくないな
未だにレコード盤から綺麗な音色が奏でるのが不思議である
Les vrais mélomanes sont fidèles aux disques LP
Deutsch Gramophon
Erato
❤ Старый добрый винил.....
✌️ 😻 ✌️ ❤️
That metal record is what's called a "dub plate" or acetate... an exciting part of dj culture was seeing a "dub" get dropped because you knew it was a new track that hasn't been heard yet. These plates were pressed in extremely limited quantities (most often only 1) to be able to see the crowds response to the new track before mass producing on vinyl.
I would never think acetate would be metal. I always imagined it to be some type of vinyl or some such.
The music loop on this short is perfect.
Even though I'm not that old my heart feels the old gold times and misses them!
Nowadays I feel everything worthy is gone!
"I'm going to need 300,000 units by end of business Friday."
Очень красивая музыка в видео! Дайте ссылочку на неё пожалуйста! С меня лайк!)
Кто ты❤🥺музыка просто разрывала мою душу 💔😢 ищу кто нибудь спросил про музыку 🎧 вижу что это ты ❤❤❤
Трудно поверить, что таким образом может получиться высокое качество звука
Причём самое высокое.)
@@ПавелПрохоров-р9ш 😏
Не высокое конечно.
@@woloda257 Вообще-то вся аппаратура Hi-and класса работает только на виниловых пластинках. Если бы было не так нахрен бы они нужны были?
@@ПавелПрохоров-р9ш , им нравятся посторонние шумы. А так надо давно уже признать, что механический съем информации плохой метод. В цифре всё хорошо сохраняется, если конечно не мп3.
With my band we released an album on black as well as on blue marbled vinyl (did quite well, thanks!).
And it sort of surprised me that before pressing vinyl we actually had to do a remix/remaster first, to make it sound as good as possible on that medium...
So there was a fair bit of additional money involved into making vinyl records - but well worth it!! They are lovely to listen to...
いつもありがとういい曲聞かせてもらってますぞい
Мелодия на фоне. "Nathalie Cardone: Hastsa Siempre"
ممنون ❤
Ето здорово 👍👍👍 прям хранители истории .
эм это только из-за то что есть спрос на такое
Ещё бы хранителей русского языка побольше...
Нихрена, они цифровым прибором делают запись на аналоге. В идеале должна быть аналоговая запись на аналоговый носитель. Они тупо mp3 с компа пишут на винил. Это даже и близко не соответствует старому способу.
Watch the full video (link in the pinned response), this is just an excerpt, the whole process is even more involved and has like fifteen more high-precision steps.
I've always been impressed that just pressing that vinyl against a form will faithfully copy the minute shapes with no bubbles, no blips, etc.
Ждём процесс производства шаровых пластинок
Не, шаровых шаров, цилиндрических цилиндров, и гиперболоидных гиперболоидов.
Шаровые опоры)))
Для этого надо дольше наждачкой обрабатывать...
Это лучший звук во-вселенной! Магнитный носитель!!!😊
Beautiful process
Ich kann mich erinnern, dass ich Märchenbücher von Disney im Format A3 geschenkt bekam und hinten drin befand sich eine Schallplatte. Sie war kleiner als die normale, aber etwas größer als eine Single mit dem kompletten Märchen bespielt. Das war ungefähr 1967/68
I remember these!
So glad vinyl records have made a comeback. There is nothing like playing the actual sound waves that the musicians produced.
Those aren't the actual sound waves. Those waves need to be heavily modified and preprocessed before they can be etched into a vinyl record. RIAA equalization being the most important. Each step in the process irreversibly changes the waveform and also adds noise and distortion. The belief that vinyl records produce a "natural" sound is unfounded.
Beautiful test press in blue 💙
А есть ещё фабрики кассетчатых кассет?
У меня дома. 🤣🤣🤣 Родители в конце 80-х купили несколько упаковок болванок для магнитофона. Если хорошо поискать, наверняка на даче так и лежат. 😉
@@СергейД-ж9м дача великая вещь
Конечно есть
У меня 3 аудиокассеты SONY и 2 видеокассеты TDK запечатанные.
25 лет пыль собирают.
O cara tá procurando uma fabrica de cassete LA ELE 3 VEZES REVERSO INFINITO
Que coisa mais lindo e top e ainda mais dessa cor. eu sou colecionador de LPs.👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Cd grandão, dizia minha filha
따듯하고 맛깔나는 음색이 좋지... 재질 특성이라고 봐
와 신기하다 ㅎㅎ 잘봤습니다.
Надо же . Не знал что их ещё выпускают . На заказ наверное . Сейчас такое редкость .
Да нет. Вполне активно для ценителей. Можешь в любой мущыкальный магазин зайти и купить современные
Интесно, а кассетные магнитофон, выпускают сейчас??
@@Metotron100 по качеству и пластинка не дотягивает
Процветает это не менее, чем раньше
@@ВОИНДОБРА-у1о в кассетной технологии нет никаких преимуществ
Ух тыы... А бывают, например, сферические пластинки?
Бывают, но их производят на другой фабрике. На этой фабрике производят только пластинчатые, узкая специализация.
Просто рынок жёстко поделен, каждый производится свой вид пластинок, кто то пластинчатые, иные сферические, другие кубические пластинки.
@@ЭдуардМахиев Кстати, насчёт кубических - вы зря. Квадратные пластинки вовсю производили. Их в журналы раньше вкладывали
@@Specter690655 Миньоны назывались.
А ещё на курортах, в том числе и у нас, в Пятигорске, можно было записать звуковую открытку. Я как то посылал такую своей двоюродной сестре, в Москву.
Нет,сферическими бывают только кони, в вакууме
@@Mahorokun Открою тебе секретную тайну, в вакууме всë сферическое.
Конь просто самый наглядный экспонат.
Magnifique bravo et merci
Need a good birthday present idea... you can custom order a vinyl with the songs you choose, you're own mixed CD vinyl... everyone loves it.
Im glad vynle is making a comeback, reminds me of when i was younger and would visit my grandma
В ПЕРВЫЕ В ЖИЗНИ ЭТО ВИЖУ!!! ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНОЕ ЗВУЧАНИЕ!!! ❤
Amazing how so tiny variations of the grooves could produce such rich sounds. Really simple pure analog amazing invention.
Yes. Sound = Vibrations.
But what’s amazing is the clarity and sound detail of this technology! I have a substantial collection of LPs, and that still amazes me! 😁
Because they distort. That is what making it sound rich.
Beautiful
Sempre tive a curiosidade de saber como eram feitos os vinis 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great demo!
Best product mankind's ever made!
Yes. But I sometimes think recipes are the greatest creation of mankind.
Put good wine, good food and good music together and you're living like a king.
Nope. The CD beats vinyl records in audio fidelity. It even beats the analog tapes used for master recordings. But few people understand the technology.
Wow...did not know it was THAT much of a process
Old format things
Пресс не слабый 👍🏻🔥🏆
Got me biting my knuckle on how spicy that whole process is. Beautiful.
My first record was on vinyl... man that was the kool years in music, but today it's easier recording it all the way to production.
У нас в Апрелевке было производство граммпластинок. Всё просрали, эффективные менеджеры, падлы
Не просрали - а именно уничтожили! Как и многие тысячи предприятий по стране.
@@игорьмакс-к4ж очень хочется спросить у вас обоих,нормальный винил стоит от 20 баксов, кто бы эти шедевры покупал?! В 90стых. За чей счёт банкет?
🤦🤦🤦
@@digidoidit у меня дядя работает на гуталиновой Фабрике, у нас этого гуталина просто завались 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome
After looking at this process I don't see why they should be more expensive than plastic plates. My dad worked in the PET bottle business and the process is pretty much the same.
На пластиковых бутылках не записана великолепная музыка.
It can be done like that.
But part of the attraction of vinyl is the precision and hand made aspects to it.
@@Джо_Гранд I'm sorry the comment isn't translating to English, I'm not sure what you are saying.
@@thebaconsonful I see. What aspects are we talking about?
The positives wear out faster and need to be replaced. If a plate mould gets a scratch it's no big deal, if a record positive gets damaged it's useless.
The squishing of the Vinyl is so satisfying to watch😁
This process has come a long way It's the beginning of where music made its stand; always great to watch the process. Thanx.
I will never understand a record that you get wonderful music from grooves?!?!
CDs work the same, just with a laser.
Watch a video about it so you will understand
I mean you don't really. They sound fine the only real reason people like them over other storage mediums is cause of nostalgia or they're lying to themselves.
@@batt3ryac1d I don't think they mean quality of music, I think they mean that music in general is wonderful and that it is being played through a pvc disk with grooves makes it more "wonderful." I could be wrong
@@kaleb5426 yeah maybe.
прикольно, конечно, но как по мне, слушать пластинки - уже лютый архаизм. даже для энтузиастов.
не понимаю, кому они новыми нужны.
O VINIL É A GRANDE PAIXÃO DO DJ'S da ANTIGA , É LÓGICO JUNTOS COM O TOCA DISCOS TÉCNICS SL 1200 MK 2 & OUTROS MKS .
O DJ'S DA ATUALIDADE SÓ PEGARAM MOLEZA ATÉ COM RECURSOS QUE NÓS
SÓ IMAGINAVAMOS QUE UM DIA IRIA TER
ENFIM CHEGOU NOVAS TECNOLOGIAS PORÊM O PODER DE CRIAÇÃO NOS TOCA
DISCOS É IMBATÍVEL!!!!!!
First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem.
The schleem is then repurposed for later batches.
They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it.
It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice.
Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it and spits on it.
They cut the fleeb.
There's several hizzards in the way.
The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the plubis, and grumbo are shaved away.
That leaves you with... a regular old vinyl.
Вы офигели ??? Если это так - может стоит добавить бит в звучносте УЖЕ записанных песен ?
Whoaaa Interestingly cool!👌
Amazing craftsmanship
The silver record mold is so pretty
Раньше были такие синенькие, мягкие...в журналах)
My first job after high school was at a record manufacturing plant, pressing records. That’s where I met my future wife. She was in quality control. She was constantly coming by to check me out. Well, checking my records, anyway. Still together, 45 years later. We outlasted the record industry. However, the plant is still there pumping out records for a much smaller market.
Beck in the seventies I purchased several albums that were " Direct cut' from the performance straight on to the album. Expensive! In London
The thing that all these audiophiles don’t know is the vinyl is made using a digital file and digital equipment lol. Digital has been better for long time now anyway.
Piece of Art!❤🥺
내 어렸을 때 LP 음반 재생해서
ABBA, Boney M, Baccara,
The Dooleys 노래를 들었지. 그런데
같은 노래를 나중에 CD로 들어보니
좀 딱딱하고 조잡한 느낌이 나더라고.
확실히 LP음반이 따뜻하고 부드러워.
Ндаа, помню сколько этих пластинок выкинули на свалку - не сосчитать, это супер ноу хау было в СССР уже в 50е годы, и синих - тонких, и чёрных - жестких пластинок для патифонов было в каждом доме уйма, и стоили они копейки в магазине Мелодия на проспекте Кирова в Саратове, там ещё спортмагазин был, один в городе.
all of this is so smooooooth !
I love it. It's so cool to know that so much care is taken by human hands to complete. A vinyl record is such a fun thing to own and listen to. But all different types of music delivery methods are relevant in my opinion. They all have something to offer. But I prefer vinyl for feel and presence. Digital is great for listening and nuance clarity. But it's cold. Etc etc.
I don't think I'd rather listen to a modern song recorded with old equipment, old microphones, bad sound quality, a lot of white noise in the background, etc.
I believe that nowadays vinyls are recorded first with state of the art digital equipment, and then you proceed to produce the vinyl. So it's quite different a vinyl from 1950s, than a vinyl today in terms of recording, sound quality, etc.
Digital being "cold" is entirely subjective, and not a legitimate distinction. For literal purposes, digital is superior to vinyl in every measurable metric.
@@rodolfolaravaldes1627The recording process is entirely analog, and it can only be analog. There's no such thing as digital recording, only digital conversion - the difference being at what stage of the process the conversion will occur.
In any case, vinyls these days are not substantially better than vinyls of the old days, as the maximum quality of vinyl as a medium was already reached with the equipment of the day.
Believe it or not, studio-based audio equipment in the 60s, 70s and 80s wasn't much different from what is available today, the real difference is the price point. Whereas one may need to spend thousands of dollars on hifi studio speakers in the 80s, for example, modern speakers can be approximately equivalent for a few hundred.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 I have old vinyls and they sound really bad. Even, I listen to songs produced 15 years ago and compared to a song released yesterday, the sound quality is really different. I don't know if microphones and ADCs are just cheaper, or they keep improving (In my experience, music keeps sounding better and better. I don't think we reached the maximum quality we can produce).
What I meant was, that you record directly on the computer, and then from a wav you prouce the vinyl. I don't know if thats the way to do it, or if you do two recordings, one with a computer for CD and streaming, and you do another whole recording with old equipment to produce the vinyl.
@@rodolfolaravaldes1627 Sure, older vinyls can sound worse, but this is generally due to wear. Properly preserved records should still sound perfectly normal. There shouldn't be any difference in the format's quality itself going back 15 years, the difference you're hearing is from the actual audio processing being done during production and is unrelated to the audio format being used.
Microphones themselves stagnated, and are not significantly different from decades passed. Improvement is possible with diminishing returns, and mics have been about as good as they could get since the 80s with very tiny improvements leading to better energy efficiency and lower operational temps.
ADCs however, HAVE seen massive improvements as have the DACs being used. These days, cheap and widely-affordable ADC/DACs are about as good as multi-thousand dollar ADC/DACs from 15-20 years ago.
Music sounding better and better is much more a factor of how it is processed during the production stage, rather than the constraints of the format (vinyl, tape, CD, etc).
To answer your question, modern vinyls of modern songs are produced from the stereo WAV of the original studio master. Some remasters are done using vintage equipment, and some re-pressings are done using WAV studio masters. It all depends, but none of these should result in audible difference unless they've been remastered.
Que lindo, yo soy de esa época, los LP QUE CORRIERON A 33rpm, luego los de 78 rpm sencillos y los de 45rpm y luego salieron los súper sencillos
Wow, I didn't know the process was so sophisticated even in the 70s😮
Hey so its a little hard to get information on Vinyl stuff so i wanna ask, if you get metal records
Will that damage your record player? I guess another question would be, Do they deteriorate much like your common vinyl or do they stay intact longer?
Por es se escuchan de MARAVILLA ., Están hechos por artesanos. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥👍👍👍
KADANG AKU GAK HABIS PIKIR BETAPA HEBAT DAN CERDASNYA ORANG JAMAN DAHULU, DARI SUARA / BUNYI->BENDA PADAT->BUNYI LAGI.
LP’s made the BEST MUSIC.
That's is the coolest new thing I've learned this month
That job looks impressing.
That was in Holloway London in the 50s up to the early 90s. It just moved east like many of the industries trades and much of the UK manufacturing.
Judul musiknya apa ya?
kedengaran indah musiknya.
За коментарартя спасибо 🙏❤❤ поддерживаю
Can't imagine the kind of precision necessary to create the mould that will produce thousands of vinyl records that have perfect sound.
Well the answer is that they don't have anywhere near perfect sound.
For comparison, the precision of a CD (16 bits) is roughly equivalent to a vinyl being pressed to the precision of individual atoms. I am not joking.
Ahhh! that beautiful technology that is easily scratchable !
Не думал что настолько сложный тех.процесс😊Но это впечатляюще!😮
Who ever thought what amount of work was done only for you could listen to your favorite bands.
What an incredible art ❤