ROR: Klonoa Door to Phantomile (PS1 Vs. Wii)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2016
- In today's episode, we kick off a brand new marathon looking at one of the most underrated franchises in video game history: Klonoa. We begin by looking at the game that started it all, Klonoa: Door to Phantomile, as well as its Wii remake, which is just called Klonoa. Don't forget to lick, commund, and soobscribe.
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Remake or Rebreak Scores:
1- Rebreak: Fails to resurrect the same quality standard as its original due to incompetent design, technical failures, etc.
2- Re-Meh: Not quite as good as the original, but a relatively competent recreation that is still very playable. Fails to add any new content or fix problems of the original.
3- Remake: Superior to the original, but not necessarily worth it if you already own the original. May add some new content or fix some problems of the original.
4- Replace: So much better than the original, that there's no reason for new players to own the original. Not only a faithful recreation of the original, but fixes old bugs and adds new content. - เกม
Klonoa is one of those characters you just want to root for, mostly because he's so goddamn adorable.
klanoa for smash
@@Yellow_Flare well that and he's just a good character overall.
klonoa, _FOR S M A S H_
@@drmechapyro9654 true
I played the Wii version of the first game and I loved it.
Also, to Eric Stitt's credit, he was only shown a picture of the character and did a voice based on that. If he had been given more information, including hearing some samples of the original seiyuu, he probably could've done a better job.
I still think not hiring a female voice actress was a confusing choice
It was Namco's Fault
I kinda like his voice in Wii, it’s like he got older.
This is a pleasant surprise. Klonoa is SO underrated.
+MetaKnuxXbeats Yes, very much!! Great game, and great franchise
MetaKnuxXbeats Because it's shit
@@georgie9303 yes
link idiot nah
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi ok that your own opinion
Your brother dubbing over Klonoa is hands down the best part
_"OH NOOOOO! I DIED, I FELL IN THE LAAAAVA!!"_
"Listen, you have no proof that that just happened..."
Someone try to mod the wiimake to put those voice clips in
*COLLIN!* I FOUND YOU!
Why am I doing this?
My wife, who generally isn't that into video games, was in and out of the room when I played this game, but she caught the ending and it made her cry too. She said it was such a tonal shift from the happy feel of the rest of the game.
I wonder if the Klonoa series would have sold better if it were marketed more toward people who enjoy the Kirby games or light-hearted platformers in general?
It should have been marketed to E 10+ and not just E for Everyone, the commercials remind me of kid toy commercials, at least the ads in the West...
The Japanese ads for the remake were amazing actually.
Y'know, you might be right. I ended up trying Klonoa through the Phantasy Reverie series because I had heard someone describe it as similar to Kirby in terms of atmosphere. I'm glad I did too, because I adored the first game and I'm excited to play the sequel. It's been fun discovering this hidden gem for the first time (outside of watching some random TH-cam videos about the Wii game as a kid, which I barely remember anyways).
@@OneBoredCatbug, E10+ didn't exist during the PS1 era. It only debuted in 2005. So games like Klonoa 1 and 2 are rated E because of it.
The thing you REALLY missed, is that the majority of Klonoa's dialogue in the Wiimake was CUT, the lines he would've said are instead given to Huepow.
Even when you turn the original Phantomilian language setting on, the old dialogue is not restored. All the charm and familiarity with Klonoa's actual personality a player would get from the original is almost entirely lost in the Wiimake.
Good thing the 2022 version will probably rectify that.
@@ChiefMedicPururu Proof? Not being rude, just need clarification...
@@FloofPuppy I said "Probably".
Good news! It did. It did so by just putting in the PS1 dialogue though, so it all sounds compressed to shit. But still neat!
just saw a the latest direct...KLANOA IS BACK!
My introduction to Klonoa was actually a cameo in Tales of Symphonia that caused me to me to look up the series to figure out what the heck it was referencing.
I found the Dream Champ Tournament by chance, the next time I was in a game store and picked it up, and later got the Wii version.
So I don't have any nostalgic attachment to Door to Phantomile
That said, from what I've seen of the original, It looks to me like it really would have been better served by a remake closer to it's aesthetic. The sprites are a little low res and maybe not animated as fluidly as they could be, but the art style and and atmosphere are incredibly distinct. Literally everything about it, from the color choices to the architecture, to the character design has a particular slightly unsettling dream-like quality to it. The closest thing that comes to mind are old fairytale books with a darker tinge to them.
Take the original Klonoa design, for example. He's definitely cute, with small, animal-like features and oversized clothing, but those yellow eyes are intentionally a little... I don't want to say off-putting, because they aren't bad. Surreal? Maybe that's a good word for it?
The original CGI cutscenes are the same.
The more modern design is a bit more mainstream and obviously takes cues from Sonic, which isn't a bad thing in itself, but it's kinda an injustice to both Klonoa AND Sonic because the games are going for something very different from eachother in tone and story telling style.
Everything about Klonoa makes it pretty much destine to be a cult classic. It's whimsical settings, and storybook characters, slower, more puzzle-based gameplay, and darker subversions and undertones.
That sort of aesthetic is unique and memorable, but it's just unlikely to ever really click with a larger audience, while it'll really appeal to people who enjoy that sort of depth.
The remake kinda misses the point. That they were even considering redesigning Klonoa at all proves this. The new artstyle is like slapping a new coat of paint on the game and hoping that'll be more attractive to the mass market. But that doesn't work, because everything else about the game is still the same as before. So all it really does is create a discord between the new art and the rest of game. This is the same reason there's a dozen failed Sonic knockoffs from the 16bit era.
I'm glad the Wii version exists. I'd probably have never gotten to play the game without it. And the original is starting to show it's age graphically and is begging for a loving update. But I absolutely understand why some people liked Door to Phantomile more.
I died a lot in the original game (and this is coming from someone who's 100%'d Mario Galaxy 2) so I appreciated the extra hearts in the remake. Great video!
Wow you must be pretty bad. I found the orignal super easy as a 7 year old. Beat it in a weekend. Found the last boss challenging tho
Yeah, I needed easy mode in Phantasy Reverie.
TFW Michael didn't take your suggestion and says, "SHREK-CITING".
+Haedox All you said was that "Shrek memes are cancer."
ExoParadigmGamer True
+Haedox LOL Haedox!
+SuperFayJr. I like ur mum
Sup
UPDATE: I've learned from helping to produce my recent collab on Haedox's channel that Yoshizawa was apparently not satisfied with the kid friendly direction that this game ultimately took. I apologize for missing out on that important tidbit, but finding information about these games is quite difficult. Haedox ultimately found that information on an archived Namco webpage talking about DTP's development. That page and the rest of the inside info on Klonoa's development history are largely inaccessible now, so I offered what information I could find when I wrote the script for this video.
what's freedom planet syndrome?
I think Freedom Planet had really long levels.
I think it refers to how Freedom Planet ultimately was made longer than it really could (or should) have been with long levels and long cutscenes. While Freedom Planet is ultimately a fun game, at a point it does start to overstay its welcome.
Personally I think it's just the long cutscenes that kinda broke the game.
ExoParadigmGamer Uhm, is Klanoa a boy or girl because you use both he and she in your review and the voice actors also make Klanoa sound like a different gender. SO WHICH ONE IS IT?!?!?!?
Who’s here after the latest direct
I'm here after the remakes didn't sell at all 😢
Has anyone come here after the Phantasy Reverie Collection?
Yes
Yup
Same here
it's not a remake... it's a Wiimake lol
Killa Hangovers *cough*
I want my money back.
Lol
Wiimake ow wiibweak. Bab talk
Clever boi
If I could make difficultly options in Klonoa for the wii they would be:
Peaceful with 10 hearts
Ordinary with 8 hearts
Rough with 6 hearts
Nightmare with 3 hearts
You're extremely generous with those difficulty options.
unless if there is Nightmare+ and things just enter Super Mario 1 Difficulty
Actually Joker is Joka's Japanese's name. The remake fixed a lot of localization issues with the old game.
+Maurice Fleshman Ooooh
EscapeRouteBritish yeah people didn't know that.
The problem with fixing it now is that "Joka" was already well established beyond just the first game as his name.
72speedway True but a mistranslation is a mistranslation. Old DBZ had problems like that.
72speedway We complain about mistransaltions all the time. Why chew them out if they are doing the right thing?
I just realised... (SPOILERS)
Klonoa had to go when Lephise sings the Song of Rebirth. Namco's attempt to revive Klonoa ultimately killed him, meaning that Klonoa left in more ways that one at the end of the Wiimake.
Thats deep
Well he made it out: th-cam.com/video/3fsvwAXqTFA/w-d-xo.html
I remember seeing the Wii version in a magazine. I instantly wanted to play it. I saw it in a gamestop I think 2 years later, picked it up, beat it in a day. I had a blast! I love the sequel as well. Too bad that didn't get a remake.
Well, the sequel's now getting a remake for the Switch if you're still interested. It's also been announced for Xbox, PlayStation, and PC
@@ryanschwartz4959 oh I’m absolutely interested. The look of joy on my face when that was announced was unparalleled.
I got my copy of Klonoa when it released, being only 10 years old at the time. It quickly became one of my favorite games of all time, and I've still broken out my copy every few years to replay it. I even grabbed the Wii remake just to see the game from a new perspective.
I sit here now, a 30-year-old man, watching this review and being reminded of that ending once more. No matter how many times I see it, I've come to the conclusion that there's no possible way for me to see it without at the very least getting a lump in my throat. The direction, the music, the acting and sadness coming out of these fictional character that, by all logical reasoning, shouldn't be capable of this effect... Simply put, it's possibly the most crushing thing I've seen in a video game. I have a deep respect for Namco being able to pull this off and not resorting to shoehorning in the typical happy ending. It certainly taught my childhood self the importance of accepting sadness and how impactful it can be for telling an engrossing story.
You must be a 90’s kid
@@jonahabenhaim1223 I am fortunate enough to be able to say I am. I'm thankful for that every day.
Back here rewatching this out of the hype for the remakes
Klonoa is back, so it’s time to review the original, remake, and the remake of the remake (and it will definitely have difficulty settings as the trailer shows Klonoa walking out of his house with 3 hearts, and other parts with more). As well as Klonoa 2 and its remake.
KlonoaVirus is coming back in 2022 better play that game when it comes out this year
With the new remake coming soon I'm excited to see what you think!
4:59 I’m so fucking glad this aged badly
I really enjoy the graphics of the PS1 version. They remind me of Donkey Kong Country, Kirby 64 and New Super Mario Bros at the same time. The graphics of the Wii version also looks amazing, I just think the colors are a bit too dull. The cutscenes of the original are also AMAZING for their time, I honestly thought they were cutscenes from the Wii version at first. The gameplay also seems interesting with the throwing mechanic, though it's a shame the game is so short. I might play it someday, it seems interesting.
This was a great review as always. I really love how in-depth you always go, and you have many intelligent points.
Good to see Klonoa getting some respect. Great game. The boarding sections in the PS2 game are sublime. The whole game is "Well this is fun" in the same way that pretty much everything in Rayman 3 is at least a little fun. Doesn't ever get dull.
Conker's Bad Fur Day vs. Conker Live and Reloaded, that'll be interesting to see.
I think it'd be either a Re-Meh or at worst a Rebreak.
That remake is actually not nearly as bad as people say it is. Classic case of remake reactionaries not giving it a fair shake.
I like the Xbox version over the N64 because of the camera fixes, huge graphical update, better controls, new combat system, higher level of detail. and etc... Conker Live and Reloaded was remade from the ground up too.
+Harry Lobster but it's censored which is bullshit
Matthias Rivadeneira To be honest who cares? A game is still a game, just because it's partially censored doesn't mean it's bad.
Thank you for including timestamps after the spoilers, really is a great addition!
4:58 This aged well
I know it's unlikely but an updated version of this with the phantasy reverie version would be cool
YOU CALL THE ENDING OF THIS GAME LIGHT-HEARTED?!
the wii version of Klonoa's voice reminds me of the change that Sora had from KH1 & KH2. In fact, Klonoa REALLY sounds like KH2 Sora in the wii version.
They got the same voice actor Haley Joel Osment, and it makes sense for Sora's voice to be like that as it has been at least a year since the first Kingdom Hearts where Sora was 14. You might have already known that, but I thought I should point it out in case you didn't.
Kingdom hearts is weeb tripe
Why? Because it has an Anime art style? It's still 50% Disney you know.
9:40 I watched this video like years ago and forgot how this scream sounded and holy fuck I forgot how soul crushing that scream is. The low quality audio crushing makes it worse I think.
You acknowledged "fan favorite" but this is legitimately one of my favorite YT series. And I watch a shitload of YT. You're the man Exo.
You say 2.5D in such underwhelming way, it should be
2.5DEEE!!!!
GeckoGC back to the title screen!!!
Actually, it's: back to the jingle!
@@NitroIndigo doo do da dee da ba doo *WAHOO*
o.o You're going to review every Klonoa game ever?! I've been following your channel for quite sometime and I love your reviews. You just went even higher on my list of TH-camrs I love! Thank you for making this decision because Klonoa deserves more love.
I hope you finish your Klonoa psa
I hope so too.
I'm a huge fan of the original game on PS1, but most people I know/meet haven't heard of it at all. It just feels like Klonoa is one of those hidden gems. I get so nostalgic when I play it, especially towards the last stages.
ShintogaDeathAngel i remember i always played the demo on some ridge racer bonus disc, i used to love it back then. Then i forgot what it was called until a few years ago.
I actually played the original PlayStation version's demo way back in the day. It wasn't until recent years when I got it on PSN. It's an interesting little game.
ok, this might sound weird, but I adore your videos. they give me peace of mind, and I find them therapeutic, I like that you don't have any crass humor and talk at a nice pace. I rewatch your videos a lot when I play videogames
Glad to see a new video from you! I really enjoyed this one. I've never played a Klonoa game, but I'll definitely be checking this out on the PS3 soon.
Oh man I just found your review. Thank you for reviewing klonoa it's a big part of my childhood where I was lucky to pick up the original for ps1 and fell in love!
Due to the Sonic the Hedgehog s character design alone, this sounds like a series I would really like
You sir, made me a klonoa fan since i first watched this when it was new, thank you!
Surprised to not see 150 gem completion mentioned, and none of the top comments point it out so I will. The mirror spirit sections turn into super tight platforming challenges, and your reward is a bonus level, the tightest platforming challenge in the game and one of the toughest levels I’ve played in any platformer.
Klonoa (Wii) was my introduction to the series. Haven't played any of the other games yet but, these reviews have reminded me of why I should.
Oh, how I've been waiting for this day. Not necessarily because I'm a big Klonoa fan (not much at all, actually), but just because I like your reviews.
That was a good review. As a fan of Klonoa since the late 90s I had the opportunity to play the original & the remake & absolutely love both versions. Unfortunately my ps1 copy went missing but I did managed to get the wii version in 2009 for 25 nzd, which I still have to this day. Cheers for doing a video of 1 of my favorite video game franchises!
So glad to see someone covering one of the most underrated franchises ever!
“They changed Joka’s name to Joker for some reason.”
Ah yes, that very much befuddles my brain as well. A clownish character being named Joker is quite confusing. I also wonder why peanut butter cups are called that. *Chews one slowly.* Hmmmm
Finally bought the Door to Phantomile on the PSN store! Thanks for introducing me to this series!
Great ROR as always, Exo! I look forward to seeing your review of Klonoa 2! :D Great to see you back again too! I actually do wanna try, and get into the Klonoa series, cause it does look pretty interesting to me!
Wii Klonoa sounds like Brawl Fox.
FAIAH!!!
anyone here with knowlage of the remakes of the first 2 games that's coming out soon?
It wasn't to long ago when i played this game getting it off the PS store. I hadn't expected the quality of this title showing that even though i grew up with the system there's still some hidden gems among history of software that i haven't played yet.
I've only ever heard of Klonoa, never actually bothered looking at anything about the games. However this is a pretty interesting ip that I'm surprised hasn't been used more often
Would it be safe to say with this review you have.... gone the extra Phantomile?
Lol.
So Shady became the basis for the King of Sorrow from Klonoa 2 Lunatea's Veil?
Fun fact: in the English dub, Hewpoe is voiced by the same person who voices Omochao in Sonic Generations.
You always do great with these videos.
I loved Klonoa so much as a kid that was my sh*t when I played it on my mom and dads ps1
I love your videos and I agree with your statements, a positive from the remake is also the fact you can play with different controllers...and it's a Bandai Namco game!Seriously, why can't I use the classic controller and the GC controller in Nintendo games like Animal Crossing and KRtDL but I can in a Bandai Namco game?Anyway, I wish so much a new Klonoa game.
Imagine if Klonoa, Kirby and NiGHTS teamed up. That would be epic. :) Maybe Sora Ltd. will have Klonoa (and NiGHTS) be playable in _Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch_?
Great idea/10
I remember playing the demo of this on the ps1 and fell head over heels in love with the game! I just wish I had a full copy.
This makes me really want to try this game out! Loving the art style.
The first game that gave me chills ever, I played it when I was 9 and loved it so much, really, that game it's my favorite psOne game, because it was the first game I really care to understand the story and started my passion for games as a whole.
One of things I like about your Videos is how you don't Judge Stuff by how much they match your Nostalgia Filter most of the time like a lot of other popular TH-cam Game Reviewers do.
+Edward I think it's more like I have a different Nostalgia Filter than other people do, which leads me to approach the same topics in different ways. I'm not going to pretend that I don't have my own biases. I do tend to support remakes in general a lot more than most people.
ExoParadigmGamer Heh... Sometimes I forget you are slightly younger than Jontron, SomeCallMeJohny, ProJared & a number of the other popular retro game reviewers on TH-cam...
In Klonoa Heroes and Namco x Capcom he speaks Japanese, still voiced by the same actress.
Exo is such an underrate reviewer.
Did you know? Klonoa and Gantz Made an appearance in Namco X Capcom
Awesome video exo.
Great review. I've played both versions and can confirm they are both good. I love the second one as well. The handheld ones are good, too, though I feel the puzzles tend to drag on. Never played the ARPG one, waiting for an English patch (I think I'll be waiting a while).
If only more Video Gaming TH-camrs would mention it. In my first and only video (for now?) I talk about how Klonoa successfully used simplicity to create a fun experience.
All I can really say about Wiimake Klonoa is it made me feel sad that I had already played the original at that point. I really can't describe how excited I would have been to get to experience a new Klonoa adventure so long after finishing Klonoa 2. As it is, for the series to come back I would be absolutely ecstatic. Klonoa has done a lot for me and I will never forget it.
Dood, I am so hyped to see Klonoa getting some well-deserved love! And for someone to actually acknowledge that the Wii version is a quality title on its own.
A bit unrelated, but in the eventual future, would you consider Shining Force (Genesis) and its GBA remake for a Remake or Re-Break?
Empire of Dreams is actually one of my favorite GBA games, it's the first Klonoa game I ever played and I'm such a big fan of this series because of it. I haven't played the other GBA games in the series because I haven't gotten the chance yet however I've played every other game in this franchise (Even Volleyball.) I have done everything I can to make sure as many people as possible find out about these gamed it's just an amazing series all around.
This video has persuaded me into buying the game on PSN Store.
Nice review Exo I've only heard of Klonoa from Namco X Capcom but I wanted to ask after you finsh this marathon are you gonna do Banjo and Kazzioe or something esle
A game that doesn't force you out of collectibles while playing through a level? Sounds exciting!
I definitely need to play this game at some point. I remember watching a walkthrough of the game years ago and being intrigued about it, but never did play it. It seems really fun from what you said and what I saw.
klonoa is super underrated you are so underrated too you and klonoa deserve way more attentions
Never played them but I've heard of this game in so many occasions
I love this game, I really like the 2.5D used and story telling.
It's really a shame that the franchise has been abandoned.
I wish I had the Wii version.
A really well done review.
seeing this in my subscription box put a smile on my face :^) also what editing software do you use?
Awesome & well worth the wait.
How is there not an episode on Metroid vs. Zero Mission? One of the few original NES classics to get a remake, and it's almost universally praised as a shining example of a remake improving every aspect of the game.
+Alexander Jones That's a good question. Like with all my endeavors on TH-cam, it's an issue of wanting to do everything but having time for almost nothing. It's certainly a video I want to do one day.
Finally, a new video
And it's on a series I've never heard of. And I've played Harvester
Nice video. Does anyone know what game the "item/select" sound effect is from - go to 27:37 to listen.
This sound effect is used throughout this Klonoa video and I've heard it before but can't put my finger on it. I want to use it as my incoming text message sound effect on my phone. Thanks.
Thee first time I saw way Klonoa the cover of this game, I thought this was a Sonic.
He looks nothing like sonic get those eyes checked, in fact sonic is a ripoff of Felix the cat anyways so meh
Grew up with the Wii release. Loved it as a kid.
If you enjoyed today's video, don't forget to like this video, preferably *after* you've finished watching it. As usual, I apologize for the wait, but it was difficult to find time to edit a video of this length during college. I probably overdid things a little, but this game is kind of special and I wanted to give it a full treatment. The next video on Moonlight Museum will be a lot shorter. I wouldn't expect that video for at least a few weeks; things are getting busier in my personal life.
Exo, thanks to you, Klonoa has become one of my favourites! I'm gonna play both the original and its remake. Lunatea's Veil...I'm not sure
Are we gonna get a Remake or Rebreak on Phantasy Reverie? I feel that the remaster of the wiimake could become a replacement for both of those versions.
Actually, the Reverie version of 1 is not the Wiimake. It's more accurate to the PS1 version.
I grew up with Lunatea's Veil as a kid, and I also got the Wii remake of this game about 5 years ago I think. I've yet to beat either of them (mainly because I doubt that I've even played the Wii remake of Klonoa 1, and I truly was terrible at playing Lunatea's Veil). I'm really looking forward to seeing what you think of the GBA games, since I've never played those (and they're now very accessible on the Wii U VC, gladly).
Ah yes, I always look forward to one of your videos.
I remember finding the Wii version at the game store near my apartment in college, and I instantly loved it, and went back to buy both GBA games later that day XD I still need to try the PS2 sequel still though, somehow I've never gotten around to that one.
The intro was an instant sub
This video made me download Door to Phantomile on my modded PSP. I'm loving it, so far (I started with Empire of Dreams, on GBA)!
Also there is a klonoa comic and Namco still owns Klonoa.
There is a Klona comic you say, please don't tell me It was only in Japan.
Power B nah it fot translated.
+Maurice Fleshman Where can I find it?
Power B google it. I forgot.
Maurice Fleshman Alright.
As an added point, the language of Phantomillian has an extra layer of depth when you listen to Klonoa then listen to someone like Seadoph.
They both sound totally different, which would make sense since they're all from different Kingdoms, Namco loves their small details.
Dude no shame at all - I cry EVERY time I see the ending T_T
I'm gonna say it now, Exo, but that's a rather 70s setup you've got there...
I like it.
+Jesse Isbell That poster and the lamp belongs to my roommate. The rest of it comes with the room.
+Jesse Isbell That poster and the lamp belongs to my roommate. The rest of it comes with the room.
Failed to mention that klonoa has a new attack in the Wii version. *(can only be functioned with the nunchuck)*