Nice video. Have bought a home in Duluth. Looking forward to doing some sailing in the Lake. Presently finishing up a Welsford Saturday Night Special down here in Texas.
Glad you enjoyed it Ross....I do ramble on : ) It's going to be about -23C here tomorrow so watching others sailing has to get me through the next few months!!
Yep..the valiant is a fabulous boat. My friend had heart surgery this summer and we weren't able to get out this season. Hoping for a trip or two next year, between my own adventures.
Well done reading the weather like you did. It looked fabulous in the bay and quite rough on the other side of the island. Thanks for making the video.
You're welcome! Our initial plan for the day had been to sail on the Lake Proper (Little Sand Bay) on the Northwest side of the Apostle islands. A beautiful area we've sailed before but it would have been a little much after several days of high winds.
Great video !!! That was a perfect sail day. I have never heard of these boats before......Glad that you had them side by side so I can get a good look at the differences. The web site that has the plans do not have any decent photos of the boat....so it is hard to see what the finished product will look like. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for your kind words! If you're looking to build at some point, John Welsford Facebook page is a great place to connect with builders and owners of his boats...and they're a generous lot who will gladly answer any questions you might have. They're great boats ; )
Thanks Tim, they are excellent specimens of excellent designs, you had an excellent sail and that's an excellent video. Thanks for taking the trouble to shoot, edit and share.
Love these designs. How much swell can you sail in - and still be comfortable? I’m asking bcz I want this style of trailer-sailor, but sail in the Pacific ocean; aka much larger swells.
Hi Christopher, thanks for asking though I'm not sure I'm the best to answer your question as I mostly sail in inland waters or fairly protected parts of Lake Superior. I'd suggest you touch base with Joel Bergen who's out in the Seattle area. I'm sure he'd be in a better position and happy to address your question. He's got a TH-cam site and is active on a number of Facebook groups.
Nice stuff, Tim! A beautiful day and two beautiful boats. What more could a sailor man ask for? P.S. I noticed the name of your boat, "Friedlor." Could you tell me about that?
Thanks Chris...in answer to your first question..not much!...The name is a remembrance to my parents! When my father passed, we were going through his papers and came across an ad for the German Shorthair pups they were selling (They had our dog bred when I was quiet young and sold the pups). The ad was in a national dog magazine and for it they created a fake kennel name, taking their own names (Fred and Lorraine) and mashing them together to create "Friedlor Kennels" : )
Hi Aaron. I'll check with Bill and see what he says...can't remember off the top of my head. Are you in the Midwest or elsewhere? If you're nearby, you'll have to join us for some outings when your build is done!
Hi there. I just saw your channel and thought that you are someone experienced with sailing. I have a double-ender wooden fishing boat which is 5m long. Planning to put a mast and sail on it. It is going to be sloop or cutter and I don't know if 'lateen rig' better than 'bermuda rig' while going upwind. Could you help?
Hi! I guess I would call myself an experienced sailor, but sorry to say, I can't call myself a designer and don't feel all that qualified to answer your question. With that said, my experience would suggest a bermuda rig generally sails closer to the wind.
@@timingersoll1257 Thank you for your honest answer. I changed my mind and I am thinking of building a gaff rig(most likely) or a bermuda rig. Could you share your ideas about gaff rig? I live in Black Sea cost of Turkey and there are no people left here with the knowledge in sails. Thank you.
@@celil111 Have you discovered the Duckworks Facebook site? (facebook.com/groups/duckworks). There're are a ton of knowledgable folks there, many with more design experience then I. I have sailed a gaff rig 1x and it seemed like a lot of lines to deal with (a Suncat). I didn't sail enough to determine the benefits. I like my Standing Lug rig for it's simplicity and and the short spars, which make it easy to store in the boat and transport. The shorter mast also makes it easier for me to step alone. It seems gaff rigs have have taller masts in general than a lug rigged boat, and bermuda masts are definetely longer. Gaff, and any kind of lug rig (standing lug, or balanced lug) have a lower center of effort, so they tend to create less heeling. This results in (in my opinion) a safer boat, particularly for boats with limited ballast and unwieghted keel. Hope that's helpful. Again, I'd pop over to the Duckworks group and see what the hive mind there has to offer, though feel free to ask me and I'll give you my, "for what it's worth" answer! : ) Best of luck..sounds like a fun project.
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Nice video. Have bought a home in Duluth. Looking forward to doing some sailing in the Lake. Presently finishing up a Welsford Saturday Night Special down here in Texas.
Thank you so much for sharing this adventure on the great "Freshwater" Ocean! Just great ~. from New Hampshire.
Your welcome Steven! It's currently 59° foggy with a cool wind... Waiting for one of those blue sky days again :-)
Nice boats, and looks like a great day.
Yep I need to get back out there this summer. Thanks for watching!
I enjoyed your talk and your video. And your two dinghies sailing along.. what a great life.
Glad you enjoyed it Ross....I do ramble on : ) It's going to be about -23C here tomorrow so watching others sailing has to get me through the next few months!!
Thank you for that sail-along, great watch
Thanks Mark. Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you for sharing this. It was so satisfying...
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a great day. I love the lines of both of those Welsford boats.
You're welcome! Yep....those lines are certainly part of the attraction!
Valiant 40 is my dream boat. Thanks for including it. I'm about to start my Navigator build...
Yep..the valiant is a fabulous boat. My friend had heart surgery this summer and we weren't able to get out this season. Hoping for a trip or two next year, between my own adventures.
Beautiful John Wesford boats. Well done sailing in the chop.
Thanks Scott - Can't wait for spring and time back on the water!
Nice boats and nice sail in a neat looking area.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the ride along.
Well done reading the weather like you did. It looked fabulous in the bay and quite rough on the other side of the island. Thanks for making the video.
You're welcome! Our initial plan for the day had been to sail on the Lake Proper (Little Sand Bay) on the Northwest side of the Apostle islands. A beautiful area we've sailed before but it would have been a little much after several days of high winds.
Great video !!! That was a perfect sail day. I have never heard of these boats before......Glad that you had them side by side so I can get a good look at the differences. The web site that has the plans do not have any decent photos of the boat....so it is hard to see what the finished product will look like. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for your kind words! If you're looking to build at some point, John Welsford Facebook page is a great place to connect with builders and owners of his boats...and they're a generous lot who will gladly answer any questions you might have. They're great boats ; )
love it. many thanks. ⚓👍
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂 Another 3 months before ice out and a chance to get back on the water!
Thanks Tim, they are excellent specimens of excellent designs, you had an excellent sail and that's an excellent video. Thanks for taking the trouble to shoot, edit and share.
Thanks for the kind words Tony 🙂
Nice !!
So glad you enjoyed
Love these designs. How much swell can you sail in - and still be comfortable? I’m asking bcz I want this style of trailer-sailor, but sail in the Pacific ocean; aka much larger swells.
Hi Christopher, thanks for asking though I'm not sure I'm the best to answer your question as I mostly sail in inland waters or fairly protected parts of Lake Superior. I'd suggest you touch base with Joel Bergen who's out in the Seattle area. I'm sure he'd be in a better position and happy to address your question. He's got a TH-cam site and is active on a number of Facebook groups.
Nice stuff, Tim! A beautiful day and two beautiful boats. What more could a sailor man ask for? P.S. I noticed the name of your boat, "Friedlor." Could you tell me about that?
Thanks Chris...in answer to your first question..not much!...The name is a remembrance to my parents! When my father passed, we were going through his papers and came across an ad for the German Shorthair pups they were selling (They had our dog bred when I was quiet young and sold the pups). The ad was in a national dog magazine and for it they created a fake kennel name, taking their own names (Fred and Lorraine) and mashing them together to create "Friedlor Kennels" : )
@@timingersoll1257 That’s a great story! Thanks!
Thank you so much Tim! do you know what trailer Bill is using? looking for one for the pathfinder I am building
Hi Aaron. I'll check with Bill and see what he says...can't remember off the top of my head. Are you in the Midwest or elsewhere? If you're nearby, you'll have to join us for some outings when your build is done!
Well...not much help..Bill said his trailer is "a very old thing I got from a guy who had to scrap a fishing boat". No manufacture name on it.
@@timingersoll1257 i am in Nova Scotia actually, tho the lakes would be great to sail!
Well that would be a bit of a haul : ) Are you able to work on the boat through the winter? How's progress? I had a 3 1/2 year build! : )
Hi there. I just saw your channel and thought that you are someone experienced with sailing. I have a double-ender wooden fishing boat which is 5m long. Planning to put a mast and sail on it. It is going to be sloop or cutter and I don't know if 'lateen rig' better than 'bermuda rig' while going upwind. Could you help?
Hi! I guess I would call myself an experienced sailor, but sorry to say, I can't call myself a designer and don't feel all that qualified to answer your question. With that said, my experience would suggest a bermuda rig generally sails closer to the wind.
@@timingersoll1257 Thank you for your honest answer. I changed my mind and I am thinking of building a gaff rig(most likely) or a bermuda rig. Could you share your ideas about gaff rig? I live in Black Sea cost of Turkey and there are no people left here with the knowledge in sails. Thank you.
@@celil111 Have you discovered the Duckworks Facebook site? (facebook.com/groups/duckworks).
There're are a ton of knowledgable folks there, many with more design experience then I. I have sailed a gaff rig 1x and it seemed like a lot of lines to deal with (a Suncat). I didn't sail enough to determine the benefits. I like my Standing Lug rig for it's simplicity and and the short spars, which make it easy to store in the boat and transport. The shorter mast also makes it easier for me to step alone.
It seems gaff rigs have have taller masts in general than a lug rigged boat, and bermuda masts are definetely longer. Gaff, and any kind of lug rig (standing lug, or balanced lug) have a lower center of effort, so they tend to create less heeling. This results in (in my opinion) a safer boat, particularly for boats with limited ballast and unwieghted keel. Hope that's helpful. Again, I'd pop over to the Duckworks group and see what the hive mind there has to offer, though feel free to ask me and I'll give you my, "for what it's worth" answer! : ) Best of luck..sounds like a fun project.
@@timingersoll1257 Thank you again, I will have a look to the site and keep searching. That was very helpful!