I have to say I'm impressed with your camera knowledge! I hope to be at that level someday. I thought I wanted to lug around gear but quickly realized that I simply love compact cameras. I have an X70 and my favorite feature is touch to focus and snap. I can hold the camera down like an old Rollei and no one knows I'm taking a photo. I had the GRii and wish I never let it go. I would love to simply have both cameras, not sure on GRiii yet. Great video guys and would love to see videos where you show and explain your settings.
I have the X70 and I keep considering the GR III, I'd like the snap focus of the Ricoh as I find sometimes the focus on the X70 is too slow for those in the moment shots.
Hey Ali! I get it it...the way I shoot this camera is like I did back in the film days. Always center focal point, focus (shutter half press) and recompose. It allows me to nail exposure and focus every time!
I have x70, x100s, and GRIII. For exhibition or museum setting, I shoot with x100s because of its wonderful viewfinder. Colour shots for street, I use x70. B&W street photography, I use GRIII. As per your comment, x70 produces the k just fuji film like images. X100s does the same but it's a bit bigger so/but because of its viewfinder, more constructive photography is possible. GRIII is an amazing B&W snapshot photography camera. When in doubt, I simply bring my GRIII with me.
The snowflake inn is very close to where you are at. It could be a interesting street photography opportunity. The Christmas lights they have are all year long 👍
@@ericrjennings I see. Well, that's a no-brainer to me. The GR III seems by far the best option. Touch screen, Higher resolution, Better AF. Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.
I bought the X70 back in 2016(?) when it was released. I love the camera. It is so descreet to shoot with - with its small size, the silent leaf shutter and the tilt screen. I’m tempted to get a GRIII only because it is even more pocketable than the X70 is, but I’m going to wait until it drops in price a little bit. The X70 still takes great shots.
Good video, thanks guys. 👍 Fuji are bananas not bringing an x80 out. Saw one for a suspiciously low price on Facebook the other day but too far away. Hopefully the XE4 coming next month goes back to XE2 quality, not much bigger and may have a new film simulation. They messed up with the 3 imo, like they messed up with the faux x70 follow up XF10, which is only good for still subjects. Like the film sims less on Ricoh, but loved 2 or 3 of them. But I think taking mine to a beach caused erosion which broke it when trying to clean the dust off the sensor. No way could I buy a new one at the very high price because of that. Like he said you can drop Fuji cameras and even submerge in water an XE2 may survive after a week in rice.
Very helpful comparisson! I have both cameras. I would go for the x70 if it were pocketable as the gr3 or for the gr3 if it had the flip screen of the x70. Maybe in the next versions.
Thanks. Both cameras are pretty compact. The tilting touch screen of the Fuji X70 is a bonus of a such compact camera. Combining X70 and XF10 in one camera? What do you think if Fuji combine the design of both 2 cameras in one. Pop-up EVF (or external EFV as option), tilting screen, two focal length like the GR (28mm, 40mm), joystick, PASM dial (vs Fuji X100V dials), one or two command rings (aperture, focus/snap focus), mic and headphone jacks (if possible), IBIS, flash,...
I have been conflicted for months, which of these I want to buy. I own the Xe2 and I know the X70 will be amazing. I also want to try something newer more portable with the Ricoh.
Nice comparison. I am hunting for an X70 myself, to join the rest of my Fuji family. Is it possible to get the specifics of the film sims on Ryan's x70?
Happy to share, Michael! May even make a video on how I setup my camera if that would help 😉... //Black and White (T-Max Sim)// BW-Yellow ISO 3200-6400 -> forces noise/grainy look DR400 Sharpness +1 Highlight +1 Shadow +1 Noise Reduction -2 Long exposure NR Off (Shoot this at 0 exposure comp or under) //Color (Fuji cool colors sim)// Classic Chrome ISO 200 - 6400 DR400 White Balance Shift - R:1, B:-3 Color 0 Sharpness -1 Highlight 0 Shadow 0 Noise Reduction -2 Long exposure NR Off (Shoot this +1/3 to +1 over exposed) Hope that helps!
Hey Michael...as is turns out, I am going to sell my Fuji x70. Let me know if you are still looking and interested in buying. I’m making room for a similar Fuji camera that will take interchangeable lenses for a 2021 project and this is the only camera I can really offload to do it!
Had the x70, loved the build and flip screen but now I have a Ricoh GR II and I must day the ricoh is much better in terms of ergonomics. If you're used to shooting manual, the snap focus feature is a MUST! For street shooting, the GR wins and is a perfect companion to a Leica M.
As an X-70 shooter I feel full anxiety that he doesn't have a dust filter over the lens. I got gunk in my sensor the first time I put it in my pocket. 😭
Ricoh wins hands down. I thought the Fuji's were a bit overexposed. The Ricohs were also tack sharp. I have Fuji cameras but bought the Ricoh for spontaneity and convenience and have no regrets.
I might even sell my leica q because of the quality of the gr3. Great camera. For street no need for anything else. @eric What watch you are using? Is it a garmin?
he's rocking the Garmin Instinct, Guido! I know because we bought them at the same time, lol (at a great price). best semi smartwatch without the constant bother of notifications like the apple watch. also can beat this thing without breaking it and fantastic battery life!
You can "snap focus" with the X70 too. Just put it in manual focus and set the focus distance to 1.5m or 2m, go F11 or whatever, and there you go. When in manual focus, a distance scale appears on the screen. I've been shooting like this for years and it's the same as snap focus on the GR (I also had it for many years). By the way, the GRII is better than the GRIII, imo. Removing the flash was a big mistake. It is so useful with that leaf shutter, because it lets you use the flash at high shutter speeds, making it easy to overpower the sun. With the GRIII it's ridiculous to see people using it with a flash that is bigger than the camera itself. Wasn't "pocketable" its main selling pont? Why did you make it a 2 pockets camera now? (one for the camera and one for the flash). And removing the flash to add IBIS is even more ridiculous. Why the heck would you need IBIS on a camera with an 18mm lens (28 equivalent) that is mainly thought as a street photography camera? That's the problem. The GR line, since the first analog versions, was always designed as a street photography camera. That was its reason to be. And with the GRIII they had other things in mind, wanting to make it a bit more mainstream, and taking away part of the GRs soul. A pity..
Great video, guys! I've had a lot of Fuji cameras. The X70 is my favorite and the only one that I haven't sold. It's a great camera, and I will never sell it. I do want to try the Ricoh GR III. Can you think of a scenario where having both cameras would be useful?
@@MrSodaBelly - Yep! Agreed. Btw, in my original post I said I would NEVER sell my X70. Well, I just sold it this past Saturday. LOL! Your post is very timely.
Hi Eric I dont know how long you've been using the GR 3 but I was considering buying one but I have been hesitant because of the complaints of dust getting sucked into the lens and the cost of cleaning because it has to be sent to Ricoh. I'm curious if you're experiencing this? For the price of a GR 3 it's somewhat disappointing to read these concerns. I'm beginning to think to consider a Fuji X70 or X100V. Best wishes Duane
@@Limbic1000 Thanks for the reply!! I'm curious were you using the adapter with a UV filter to help keep the dust out or did you just use the sensor cleaning function of the camera? Best of luck in your photography journey!
@@duanemcclun i think the dust gets in gaps around a dial and maybe a button, someone may have said it cant get in through the lens, which made it even more annoying when the III came out as it sounds like they just needed to guard one or two places.
It will never be as great as the original. The new processors have better dynamic range so they lose that tone curve that makes the X-70 a click and print camera. Really they need to overhaul the tone curve for the newer technology rather than just copy-paste every time, because there's a lot to be said for the native contrast and white point on the old cameras.
We, Japanese say, Fuji XQ1 or XQ2 is much better than GR3. Smaller + Brighter with Zoom and Flash. I already sold my GR3 three years ago, as Fuji X100 V came. GR 3 is really overrated sucks.
Wow. And I was planning to buy a GR3. X100V is not available in the US at the moment (backorder) and I don’t want to pay a ridiculous amount for the ones being sold in places like Amazon. Do you recommend Fuji X70 as a Japanese who knows Fuji?
people have really lost sense of what the word pocketable means A couple grams is not a deciding factor for me. Nor which pocket it quote fits in. Even with the shoulder bag compared to carrying around a hassleblad on RZ. You really shouldn't be carrying any camera in your pocket don't be surprised if it takes a good bump and your sensor goes
@@unbroken1010 how are we spoiled because we want a super lightweight camera small enough to fit in the pocket? smartphones are that but if the device is only for shooting then its perfectly managable to achieve.
@@x340x the trend for larger sensors in compacts makes them slightly more bulky in form factor than ideal in my view for what it's worth. Because of that I've carried a Canon s120 around in my back pocket since buying it in 2014. It's very unobtrusive, super reliable, takes decent quality images in most scenarios & is always there when I want it. Will it match the low light image quality of the models in the video....no - but I hardly ever shoot in very low light anyway, so it's no biggy :-)
This is so fun to watch ... I'm researching on the X70 and this is really helpful. Thanks guys!
I'm a Fuji guy and I picked up a used GR (I) for $270 in great shape. Loving the one handed use and snap focus!
FUJIIIIIIII give us X80. Thx mate
Yes please Fuji...
X70s would make more sense considering the X100.
I have a Ricoh 8.1 megapixel GR digital camera and a Fujifilm x10.
I use the Fuji for colour and the Ricoh for black and white.
Never understood why Fuji decided to drop that line. They could have competed with Ricoh here.
If the XF10 had autofocus or proper manual focus it would be a contender for half the price. Maybe they are protecting lens sales.
I have to say I'm impressed with your camera knowledge! I hope to be at that level someday. I thought I wanted to lug around gear but quickly realized that I simply love compact cameras. I have an X70 and my favorite feature is touch to focus and snap. I can hold the camera down like an old Rollei and no one knows I'm taking a photo. I had the GRii and wish I never let it go. I would love to simply have both cameras, not sure on GRiii yet. Great video guys and would love to see videos where you show and explain your settings.
I have the X70 and I keep considering the GR III, I'd like the snap focus of the Ricoh as I find sometimes the focus on the X70 is too slow for those in the moment shots.
Hey Ali! I get it it...the way I shoot this camera is like I did back in the film days. Always center focal point, focus (shutter half press) and recompose. It allows me to nail exposure and focus every time!
Canon g1x mark iii apsc body zoom lens weather cealing phase and face detect nice colors similar price
I have x70, x100s, and GRIII. For exhibition or museum setting, I shoot with x100s because of its wonderful viewfinder. Colour shots for street, I use x70. B&W street photography, I use GRIII. As per your comment, x70 produces the k just fuji film like images. X100s does the same but it's a bit bigger so/but because of its viewfinder, more constructive photography is possible. GRIII is an amazing B&W snapshot photography camera. When in doubt, I simply bring my GRIII with me.
The snowflake inn is very close to where you are at. It could be a interesting street photography opportunity. The Christmas lights they have are all year long 👍
GR II is the way to go. Picked one up a couple months for 4 bills and i love it better than even the GR III that I had early this year.
I'm thinking of getting the GR III. Why do you like the GR II better?
It’s a trade off. Bit better ergos on the 2, flash on the 2, colors are different. The GR3 has a better sensor and better AF
@@ericrjennings I see. Well, that's a no-brainer to me. The GR III seems by far the best option. Touch screen, Higher resolution, Better AF. Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.
I bought an X70 and a GRii. I kept the GRii and have zero regrets.
I purchased the first GR APSC and love it
I bought the X70 back in 2016(?) when it was released. I love the camera. It is so descreet to shoot with - with its small size, the silent leaf shutter and the tilt screen. I’m tempted to get a GRIII only because it is even more pocketable than the X70 is, but I’m going to wait until it drops in price a little bit. The X70 still takes great shots.
Did you get the GR?
@@xamuth Not yet, but I will eventually. I’m waiting to see what the GR IV will look like.
X70 not 'snap focus', but I use preset zone focussing all the time for street
Can you explain how to use preset zone focusing
Tte x70 is an amazing camera. Happy to see it
For better ergo, consider picking up the aluminum hotshoe thumbgrip. 😉
Good video, thanks guys. 👍 Fuji are bananas not bringing an x80 out. Saw one for a suspiciously low price on Facebook the other day but too far away. Hopefully the XE4 coming next month goes back to XE2 quality, not much bigger and may have a new film simulation. They messed up with the 3 imo, like they messed up with the faux x70 follow up XF10, which is only good for still subjects.
Like the film sims less on Ricoh, but loved 2 or 3 of them. But I think taking mine to a beach caused erosion which broke it when trying to clean the dust off the sensor. No way could I buy a new one at the very high price because of that. Like he said you can drop Fuji cameras and even submerge in water an XE2 may survive after a week in rice.
Very helpful comparisson! I have both cameras. I would go for the x70 if it were pocketable as the gr3 or for the gr3 if it had the flip screen of the x70. Maybe in the next versions.
Ricoh GR IV is coming soon
@@dolgimo962 still waiting :P
Thanks.
Both cameras are pretty compact.
The tilting touch screen of the Fuji X70 is a bonus of a such compact camera.
Combining X70 and XF10 in one camera? What do you think if Fuji combine the design of both 2 cameras in one. Pop-up EVF (or external EFV as option), tilting screen, two focal length like the GR (28mm, 40mm), joystick, PASM dial (vs Fuji X100V dials), one or two command rings (aperture, focus/snap focus), mic and headphone jacks (if possible), IBIS, flash,...
Why am I seeing so many videos about this camera lately? It's impossible to buy under 500 at it's no longer in production.
I have been conflicted for months, which of these I want to buy. I own the Xe2 and I know the X70 will be amazing. I also want to try something newer more portable with the Ricoh.
Nice comparison. I am hunting for an X70 myself, to join the rest of my Fuji family. Is it possible to get the specifics of the film sims on Ryan's x70?
For sure. I’ll see if I can get him to respond
Happy to share, Michael! May even make a video on how I setup my camera if that would help 😉...
//Black and White (T-Max Sim)//
BW-Yellow
ISO 3200-6400 -> forces noise/grainy look
DR400
Sharpness +1
Highlight +1
Shadow +1
Noise Reduction -2
Long exposure NR Off
(Shoot this at 0 exposure comp or under)
//Color (Fuji cool colors sim)//
Classic Chrome
ISO 200 - 6400
DR400
White Balance Shift - R:1, B:-3
Color 0
Sharpness -1
Highlight 0
Shadow 0
Noise Reduction -2
Long exposure NR Off
(Shoot this +1/3 to +1 over exposed)
Hope that helps!
@@ryanfromDetroit awesome thanks!
Hey Michael...as is turns out, I am going to sell my Fuji x70. Let me know if you are still looking and interested in buying.
I’m making room for a similar Fuji camera that will take interchangeable lenses for a 2021 project and this is the only camera I can really offload to do it!
Had the x70, loved the build and flip screen but now I have a Ricoh GR II and I must day the ricoh is much better in terms of ergonomics. If you're used to shooting manual, the snap focus feature is a MUST! For street shooting, the GR wins and is a perfect companion to a Leica M.
Average leica fan boy
The X70 lens cap is a work of art that fits onto the lens with a quality you just have to feel…but…its sooo easy to lose:-)))
As an X-70 shooter I feel full anxiety that he doesn't have a dust filter over the lens. I got gunk in my sensor the first time I put it in my pocket. 😭
Ricoh wins hands down. I thought the Fuji's were a bit overexposed. The Ricohs were also tack sharp. I have Fuji cameras but bought the Ricoh for spontaneity and convenience and have no regrets.
I might even sell my leica q because of the quality of the gr3. Great camera. For street no need for anything else. @eric What watch you are using? Is it a garmin?
he's rocking the Garmin Instinct, Guido! I know because we bought them at the same time, lol (at a great price). best semi smartwatch without the constant bother of notifications like the apple watch. also can beat this thing without breaking it and fantastic battery life!
Wanna trade :P?
You can "snap focus" with the X70 too. Just put it in manual focus and set the focus distance to 1.5m or 2m, go F11 or whatever, and there you go. When in manual focus, a distance scale appears on the screen. I've been shooting like this for years and it's the same as snap focus on the GR (I also had it for many years).
By the way, the GRII is better than the GRIII, imo. Removing the flash was a big mistake. It is so useful with that leaf shutter, because it lets you use the flash at high shutter speeds, making it easy to overpower the sun. With the GRIII it's ridiculous to see people using it with a flash that is bigger than the camera itself. Wasn't "pocketable" its main selling pont? Why did you make it a 2 pockets camera now? (one for the camera and one for the flash). And removing the flash to add IBIS is even more ridiculous. Why the heck would you need IBIS on a camera with an 18mm lens (28 equivalent) that is mainly thought as a street photography camera?
That's the problem. The GR line, since the first analog versions, was always designed as a street photography camera. That was its reason to be. And with the GRIII they had other things in mind, wanting to make it a bit more mainstream, and taking away part of the GRs soul. A pity..
Some Fuji are now vlog capable not sure but I think x70 might have made the list
Ricoh should have kept the rocker switch on the back.
I though that was Stephen Curry talking about Ricoh GR III! No way, Stephen would have a X100V! 😉
Just the comparison o want to see. The gr3 is a huge step up from the gr2 I wish you included the lx100
Great video, guys! I've had a lot of Fuji cameras. The X70 is my favorite and the only one that I haven't sold. It's a great camera, and I will never sell it. I do want to try the Ricoh GR III. Can you think of a scenario where having both cameras would be useful?
Not really. They’re competing in a lot of ways
The Ricoh has no flash no viewfinder and collects dust in the lens
@@MrSodaBelly - The X70 doesn't have a viewfinder either.
@@BeingWolfy but it has flash with no dust issue
@@MrSodaBelly - Yep! Agreed. Btw, in my original post I said I would NEVER sell my X70. Well, I just sold it this past Saturday. LOL! Your post is very timely.
Hi Eric
I dont know how long you've been using the GR 3 but I was considering buying one but I have been hesitant because of the complaints of dust getting sucked into the lens and the cost of cleaning because it has to be sent to Ricoh.
I'm curious if you're experiencing this?
For the price of a GR 3 it's somewhat disappointing to read these concerns.
I'm beginning to think to consider a Fuji X70 or X100V.
Best wishes
Duane
No dust but I’ve only had it for a short time
Yesss... I know the dustproblem.. Two times! 😏 But with the GR2!!
GR 3 should handle it better. And i will go for a GR3.
@@Limbic1000
Thanks for the reply!! I'm curious were you using the adapter with a UV filter to help keep the dust out or did you just use the sensor cleaning function of the camera?
Best of luck in your photography journey!
@@duanemcclun i think the dust gets in gaps around a dial and maybe a button, someone may have said it cant get in through the lens, which made it even more annoying when the III came out as it sounds like they just needed to guard one or two places.
No mention of the xf10, is there a reason why?
In my opinion it’s okay but inferior to these two
Eric time for a GRiii X!!!
I want both of these, the x70 is 900 and the gr3 is 1200 yay Canada
Fuji need to release an updated version of the x70 because the 18mm MKII is taking far too long to come out
It will never be as great as the original. The new processors have better dynamic range so they lose that tone curve that makes the X-70 a click and print camera. Really they need to overhaul the tone curve for the newer technology rather than just copy-paste every time, because there's a lot to be said for the native contrast and white point on the old cameras.
what are you filming yourselves on? wow
Panasonic Lumix S5
Fujifilm listens to its customers ? Really ? Then c'mon Fuji give us the X80
For real… I want it
Hi Eric
I really enjoyed your video that you and Ryan made on the X70 and the GR 3.
The X70 sure is retaining a good used pricing.
Best wishes
Duane
Thank you
Guy selling one on ebay right now in the UK for £980 :(
Nikon Z50 or GRiii
Same price!
Can the GRIII do everything like Z50?
Only with a fixed lens.
We, Japanese say, Fuji XQ1 or XQ2 is much better than GR3.
Smaller + Brighter with Zoom and Flash.
I already sold my GR3 three years ago, as Fuji X100 V came.
GR 3 is really overrated sucks.
Wow. And I was planning to buy a GR3. X100V is not available in the US at the moment (backorder) and I don’t want to pay a ridiculous amount for the ones being sold in places like Amazon.
Do you recommend Fuji X70 as a Japanese who knows Fuji?
One word .snapfocus you put a nice little flash on the gr. Btw you all know you have knees and elbows 🤷♂️
GR all day!
people have really lost sense of what the word pocketable means A couple grams is not a deciding factor for me. Nor which pocket it quote fits in. Even with the shoulder bag compared to carrying around a hassleblad on RZ. You really shouldn't be carrying any camera in your pocket don't be surprised if it takes a good bump and your sensor goes
not really, the pocketable meant just that, that you can fir it in your pocket.
@@x340x give it a rest, camera and gear is lighter than its ever been.. People be spoiled and that creates unhealthy people
@@unbroken1010 how are we spoiled because we want a super lightweight camera small enough to fit in the pocket? smartphones are that but if the device is only for shooting then its perfectly managable to achieve.
@@x340x the trend for larger sensors in compacts makes them slightly more bulky in form factor than ideal in my view for what it's worth. Because of that I've carried a Canon s120 around in my back pocket since buying it in 2014. It's very unobtrusive, super reliable, takes decent quality images in most scenarios & is always there when I want it. Will it match the low light image quality of the models in the video....no - but I hardly ever shoot in very low light anyway, so it's no biggy :-)
Ricoh GR iii has a pop out flash
No it doesn’t. Only GR I and II
X-70 better than Ricoh GR II, Ricoh GR II better than Fuji X10.