If it works with your budget, PPF is the best way to go. But if not, Ceramic is really good for protecting the paint rather than there being no protection!
That is the ultimate combo for sure, but some companies are now introducing films that are infused with Si02 Ceramic. For example, we use Xpel's Fusion Plus film which is exactly that. And I've tried to coat on top of that, but it's dang near impossible so I'd recommend the ceramic-PPF if it's an option!
As a fellow Modesta guy I think you should reach out to John Perdue (owner of Modesta North America) he’s absolutely the most honest person I’ve met in the industry and could get you pointed in the right direction if you are hoping to become certified/accredited with Modesta. It was always my goal as well (started with Ceramic Pro, then certified with G-Tech and finally Modesta) the science and quality behind Modesta’s line of coatings are truly next level but I’m kind of a nerd when it comes to all of this I guess but I love them. Initially I planned on a good, better, best coating tier at the shop but after using Modesta I realized their cheapest coating was better than the best from the other companies I had used and tested. I think you would be surprised at pricing as well. Love the content and wish you nothing but the best in the future brother!
On a sidenote it’s kind of funny you brought up Jim White. He is absolutely my all time favorite detailer and a big part of the reason I chased the Suntek/Modesta certifications. I hope you have an awesome day brother and God bless!
@@atdautospa Also one of my biggest inspirations + favorite detailer on TH-cam. God bless you as well man. I will be seeking out the exact same certifications. Thank you so much!
It depends. I've noticed with their standard film, there are rolls we get that are pretty dang clear, and some that have orange peel. But their ceramic fusion film has the least amount of orange peel consistently. To be fair, at the end of the day it's film, but it's getting better.
Sorry dumb question.. So my car is used in a harsh condition: - I live in the tropics - Very bad road condition, where some parts of the road can be used as an off-road track (not that heavy but, not far behind). - Flood will always occur during rainy season and so these muddy road will basically get into the car every single time. - Usually at work area there is no shade other than trees sometimes so this car will need to endure tropics sunlight when I'm working. - We only have two seasons (raining and not raining 😂) so, on the not raining season, the road will be full of dust and sometimes these pebbles hit the car from the tyres of the passing trucks (plenty of trucks around). So yea, the car's paint now is full of scratches from the mud, dust, etc. The question is, would full body PPF could protect the paint from the environment that I'm in? I haven't been able to get a believable answer so far. PPF coating here is not that cheap to install.
PPF is not cheap, but it would be the best alternative to any other option for protecting your paint. The nice part about PPF is that even if your paint is heavily swirled / scratched, PPF will hide 80-90% of the damage, and just make it look like insanely clean paint. You'll still need to wash it of course. It will also help with UV protection which where you're at sounds like a MUST. And a lot of film companies have ceramic-infused PPF. I 100% recommend that for the higher UV protection and dirt/water rejection properties. If the film is not infused with ceramic, have it coated (or do it yourself. Some products like GTechniq's Halo are super super easy to DIY. You just apply it, immediately wipe off, wipe again with a different towel). Hope this helps! Please, feel free to ask any other questions.
@@ccdetailing Thanks a lot! A lot of car detailer shops in here seems to promote various ceramic coating brands that I have never heard of (not that I know any in the first place) and of course each and every one of them boasts they're using the best there is. I'll be looking around first for the available PPF brands then. One more question if you don't mind, I have another car and this one is already older than 10 years old by now. I didn't know about paint protection before so I didn't put any while it was new. Since the engine is still working fine, I'm planning to keep using it as my secondary car. The problem is I see some of the paint are peeling off, especially near the edges (door edges, or body part that is not flat). Should I do a repaint first instead of trying to machine polish it?
@@kamikakushi_ Yes if you have any kind of peeling/chipping paint, you should certainly get it resprayed. If its faded, sometimes you can use a light polish + pad and see if it revives a bit, but if it's to the point that its thin, chipping, peeling, etc, you 100% should get it resprayed, or just ignore it if it's a beater-type car lol.
If it works with your budget, PPF is the best way to go. But if not, Ceramic is really good for protecting the paint rather than there being no protection!
Given the choice with $ being no object I’d opt for PPF .
Would PPF with a ceramic coating on top be the “holy grail” of protection? Love your content & cinematography. ❤️🖖
That is the ultimate combo for sure, but some companies are now introducing films that are infused with Si02 Ceramic. For example, we use Xpel's Fusion Plus film which is exactly that. And I've tried to coat on top of that, but it's dang near impossible so I'd recommend the ceramic-PPF if it's an option!
As a fellow Modesta guy I think you should reach out to John Perdue (owner of Modesta North America) he’s absolutely the most honest person I’ve met in the industry and could get you pointed in the right direction if you are hoping to become certified/accredited with Modesta. It was always my goal as well (started with Ceramic Pro, then certified with G-Tech and finally Modesta) the science and quality behind Modesta’s line of coatings are truly next level but I’m kind of a nerd when it comes to all of this I guess but I love them. Initially I planned on a good, better, best coating tier at the shop but after using Modesta I realized their cheapest coating was better than the best from the other companies I had used and tested. I think you would be surprised at pricing as well.
Love the content and wish you nothing but the best in the future brother!
I really appreciate it!! This just guided me in a direction I don't think I'd go otherwise just because of the lack of knowledge. Thank you so much.
On a sidenote it’s kind of funny you brought up Jim White. He is absolutely my all time favorite detailer and a big part of the reason I chased the Suntek/Modesta certifications.
I hope you have an awesome day brother and God bless!
@@atdautospa Also one of my biggest inspirations + favorite detailer on TH-cam. God bless you as well man. I will be seeking out the exact same certifications. Thank you so much!
Has Xpel fixed the issue with having a bunch of orange peel in their film?
It depends. I've noticed with their standard film, there are rolls we get that are pretty dang clear, and some that have orange peel. But their ceramic fusion film has the least amount of orange peel consistently. To be fair, at the end of the day it's film, but it's getting better.
Sorry dumb question..
So my car is used in a harsh condition:
- I live in the tropics
- Very bad road condition, where some parts of the road can be used as an off-road track (not that heavy but, not far behind).
- Flood will always occur during rainy season and so these muddy road will basically get into the car every single time.
- Usually at work area there is no shade other than trees sometimes so this car will need to endure tropics sunlight when I'm working.
- We only have two seasons (raining and not raining 😂) so, on the not raining season, the road will be full of dust and sometimes these pebbles hit the car from the tyres of the passing trucks (plenty of trucks around).
So yea, the car's paint now is full of scratches from the mud, dust, etc.
The question is, would full body PPF could protect the paint from the environment that I'm in?
I haven't been able to get a believable answer so far.
PPF coating here is not that cheap to install.
PPF is not cheap, but it would be the best alternative to any other option for protecting your paint. The nice part about PPF is that even if your paint is heavily swirled / scratched, PPF will hide 80-90% of the damage, and just make it look like insanely clean paint. You'll still need to wash it of course. It will also help with UV protection which where you're at sounds like a MUST. And a lot of film companies have ceramic-infused PPF. I 100% recommend that for the higher UV protection and dirt/water rejection properties. If the film is not infused with ceramic, have it coated (or do it yourself. Some products like GTechniq's Halo are super super easy to DIY. You just apply it, immediately wipe off, wipe again with a different towel).
Hope this helps! Please, feel free to ask any other questions.
@@ccdetailing Thanks a lot!
A lot of car detailer shops in here seems to promote various ceramic coating brands that I have never heard of (not that I know any in the first place) and of course each and every one of them boasts they're using the best there is.
I'll be looking around first for the available PPF brands then.
One more question if you don't mind, I have another car and this one is already older than 10 years old by now.
I didn't know about paint protection before so I didn't put any while it was new. Since the engine is still working fine, I'm planning to keep using it as my secondary car.
The problem is I see some of the paint are peeling off, especially near the edges (door edges, or body part that is not flat).
Should I do a repaint first instead of trying to machine polish it?
@@kamikakushi_ Yes if you have any kind of peeling/chipping paint, you should certainly get it resprayed. If its faded, sometimes you can use a light polish + pad and see if it revives a bit, but if it's to the point that its thin, chipping, peeling, etc, you 100% should get it resprayed, or just ignore it if it's a beater-type car lol.