when this card was spoiled, I was kinda meh at extus, but soooo excited to see someone go nuts with the Blood Avatar. Glad to see it happen, really appreciated the breakdown!
The super interesting thing about this card is that you can quite easily make *both* sides have neat synergy with each other in an aristocrats deck ! If your aristocrats pay-off creatures or token producers get killed, you can cast Extus and a few cheap spells to reload. And if you're properly set-up, you can deliver the finishing blow(s) with Blood Avatar !
a couple suggestions to consider: 1: currently, your list has 12 Sunforger targets. (technically 13, but secure for 0 seems bad without token makers) I know it means giving up a bit of mana, but having access to things like fury storm from the deck is something to consider. 2: speaking of copying, both twinning staff and double vision feel at home here, just helping you squeak out a little extra value. 3: I know this version focuses on the blood avatar, but consider if opponents have 6+ artifacts/enchantments out the following: play/have in play Extus, cast dockside, get 6+ treasure. Cast Worthy cause with buyback, sacrificing dockside to cost. Magecraft triggers, letting you target dockside from the yard. recast dockside, repeat. also potentially infinite death triggers
I agree with those inclusions but the initial list is VERY low to the ground - almost a cEDH level of streamlined. I think there's room to inflate the deck a bit if you're expecting the game to go longer but this is all about HOW MANY TIMES and HOW FAST.
@@CommanderMechanic that is fair. That said, I make the argument it creates an over reliance on anointed procession. If that dies, we have a pretty big issue. I'm actually looking to fuse this with my friends extus list, who has a bit more focus on the creature half, as well as a tiny bit of my own spice. (He thought of the janky worthy cause combo) Neither of us had thought of fury storm, which is hilariously bonkers with blood avatar. Reguardless, loved the deck tech, and can't wait for the next one
Pitiless pluder Anointed procession Wayward servant Gravecrawler Ashnod's altar You sack the Gravecrawler to the altar to have infinte mana from the pluder n infinte ping damage from Wayward servant
What about populate cards that white gives you access to? More tokens for a fraction of the cost and/or without having to recast the sorcery. Also, some of them put tokens on the board as well, giving you even more blood to build avatars with.
I found that the card ghireds belligerence works really well for this as you will usually have token 1/1s to sac but if you use the card and divide x damage between your tokens for each one that died you get to populate x. So with awaken the blood avatar already on the board you get to copy him a bunch ton
Ive been playing this deck for 2 weeks now and I have to tell you its become my favorite one to play. Ive made some modifications but never the less thank you for this wonderful video! I was wondering how you feel about populate in this deck
@@CommanderMechanic How do you feel about Determined Iteration? Or more importantly Ghired's Belligerence if we have an avatar out and say 4 of our 1/1 creatures thats 6 mana for 4 more avatars or 8 if we have procession :)
Very interesting deck. Assemble the Legion is probably a little slow but it seems like this is a great deck for it. I think it might be better for this deck than Outlaws Merriment because Merriment never gives more than one token by itself.
The link to the deck list will not open on browser for me…gives me some security warnings and even when I try to bypass I get a blank page. Anyone else have this problem? I really want to look over this list?
when this card was spoiled, I was kinda meh at extus, but soooo excited to see someone go nuts with the Blood Avatar. Glad to see it happen, really appreciated the breakdown!
The super interesting thing about this card is that you can quite easily make *both* sides have neat synergy with each other in an aristocrats deck ! If your aristocrats pay-off creatures or token producers get killed, you can cast Extus and a few cheap spells to reload. And if you're properly set-up, you can deliver the finishing blow(s) with Blood Avatar !
a couple suggestions to consider:
1: currently, your list has 12 Sunforger targets. (technically 13, but secure for 0 seems bad without token makers) I know it means giving up a bit of mana, but having access to things like fury storm from the deck is something to consider.
2: speaking of copying, both twinning staff and double vision feel at home here, just helping you squeak out a little extra value.
3: I know this version focuses on the blood avatar, but consider if opponents have 6+ artifacts/enchantments out the following: play/have in play Extus, cast dockside, get 6+ treasure. Cast Worthy cause with buyback, sacrificing dockside to cost. Magecraft triggers, letting you target dockside from the yard. recast dockside, repeat. also potentially infinite death triggers
I agree with those inclusions but the initial list is VERY low to the ground - almost a cEDH level of streamlined. I think there's room to inflate the deck a bit if you're expecting the game to go longer but this is all about HOW MANY TIMES and HOW FAST.
@@CommanderMechanic that is fair. That said, I make the argument it creates an over reliance on anointed procession. If that dies, we have a pretty big issue.
I'm actually looking to fuse this with my friends extus list, who has a bit more focus on the creature half, as well as a tiny bit of my own spice. (He thought of the janky worthy cause combo) Neither of us had thought of fury storm, which is hilariously bonkers with blood avatar.
Reguardless, loved the deck tech, and can't wait for the next one
You just earned yourself one more subscriber! :)
Best deck tech on yt so far 👍
Can we get an updated version of this deck please. ❤
What about adding fiery emancipation?
People don't take into account the likely hood someone wastes spot removal or a counter on the token or the commander spell that's so easily reccurred
This is one of the best deck tech/breakdowns I have ever seen
glad you enjoyed!
Great video! loved the math break down.
Thanks! I don't normally get this much in to the nuts and bolts of maths for decks but I enjoyed this one
Pitiless pluder
Anointed procession
Wayward servant
Gravecrawler
Ashnod's altar
You sack the Gravecrawler to the altar to have infinte mana from the pluder n infinte ping damage from Wayward servant
Anointed Procession and Double Vision. I really like that one
Wouldn't damage doublers make this soo much easier. Fiery Emancipation or Torbran or Quest for the Pure Flame
That or Isshin will do
1000%. I added in double damage and it’s a far more competitive (kitchen table) edh deck
What about populate cards that white gives you access to? More tokens for a fraction of the cost and/or without having to recast the sorcery. Also, some of them put tokens on the board as well, giving you even more blood to build avatars with.
I found that the card ghireds belligerence works really well for this as you will usually have token 1/1s to sac but if you use the card and divide x damage between your tokens for each one that died you get to populate x. So with awaken the blood avatar already on the board you get to copy him a bunch ton
Okay this video confirmed what I was trying to figure out. So you can sac a creature to pay the commander tax
That's correct!
Ive been playing this deck for 2 weeks now and I have to tell you its become my favorite one to play. Ive made some modifications but never the less thank you for this wonderful video! I was wondering how you feel about populate in this deck
Glad that you're enjoying it!
@@CommanderMechanic How do you feel about Determined Iteration? Or more importantly Ghired's Belligerence if we have an avatar out and say 4 of our 1/1 creatures thats 6 mana for 4 more avatars
or 8 if we have procession :)
i like iteration, but be careful about including cards that only do something when you're already winning
Very interesting deck.
Assemble the Legion is probably a little slow but it seems like this is a great deck for it.
I think it might be better for this deck than Outlaws Merriment because Merriment never gives more than one token by itself.
This is glorious 👹
Storm kiln artist and fury storm can also make infinite treasures so thats a game ender too
But u can only cast sorceries during ur main phases tho
Alternatively, have a Worldgorger Dragon loop which satisfies the aim but with a lot less steps :P
For real, that's a pretty nice approach!
Why even use this Commander then? Any red black Commander will do.
Chain of Smog and storm kiln artist means a billion blood avatars
Gotta get mondrak in there now brother :)
Inf mana seems a lot easier, mardu has several. Extus even opens one with worthy cause.
Wouldn’t Bonus round be a good pick as well? Cuts the number of casts in half
I appreciate the inclusions of Jeska's Will & Szat's Will but never getting full value from either would make me sad.
Nice deck. But With all that sac stuff I am surprised you don’t include mayhem devil
It was in the initial list but was cut to lower the curve as it competed with our token generators in the 3cmc spot! Great recommendation though!
@@CommanderMechanic whats the curve that you aim for usually?
Chain of smog and storm kiln artist win
Is ophiomancer and the dread horde invasion not good because they don’t go wide enough?
do u still have the deck list? because i can´t asses the site of deck list.
The link to the deck list will not open on browser for me…gives me some security warnings and even when I try to bypass I get a blank page. Anyone else have this problem? I really want to look over this list?
I'm working on moving all my lists to Moxfield!
@@CommanderMechanic I can’t wait! Is there any site they are available on right now? Is that site you used down or is it an issue on my end?
Can you sac to awaken the blood avatar even if you can't afford to play him?
No you need to sacrifice as a cost - you can't "float" a sacrifice like you can mana.
Can you just get infinite mana and cast awaken the blood avtar they way ?
What’s wrong with “Populate” in this deck, should it not be an auto inclusion? Someone help my brain
Update please
I put phyresis in my list because lol why not?
I did as well and can lethally infect pretty fast
Casually says drop 2k on this. Bruh. Bruh. BRUHHHH
you might appreciate some of my budget content then!
So a more complicated way to do mass token damage... play Krenko.
Yes because everyone wants to play the same thing
Not even close to the same thing ya silly
Or just kill your opponents with the tokens. Seems wasteful doing it this way just to force using the sorcery