Quick look inside the structure of the 11thgen honda civic hatchback and how the water escapes the hatch when you open it. More details to come on the leaking issue in my next upload, stay tuned!
Closely following this since I have the exact car and exact problem. Thanks for doing all the hard work. I’m too busy to investigate and certainly too busy to get jerked around by a dealer which I know would happen.
Great video! I really hope you get this issue resolved. I picked up the same exact car (2.0L NA engine with manual transmission) as yours 6 days ago, but the 2024 model. 2 days ago we had torrential downpours here in the NYC area and when things cleared up yesterday, I checked my hatch as well as the spare tire well and was relieved to discover that there were no leaks or water build up. With that said, however, I do want to keep in the know about this issue because you never know when I might end up experiencing the same issue. Your channel is invaluable.
Best of luck with the issue. I ended up having to switch though. For context, I used to own a 2017 Civic Hatchback until this year. At that time it felt like a better deal, because the hatchback still had the LX trim and all trims came with the 1.5T. Tie that in with the 6MT, and it was a perfect value car imo. I probably would've stayed with that car for another 5 years without any issues. But I had the opportunity to get a 2023 Sport one instead. And I just wasn't feeling it. After 2 months, I finally committed to swapping for a 2024 WRX Base. And man, this is exactly what I'm looking for. But I'll still stop by to look at your content, keep it up.
I finally put a deposit down on a white one to be delivered in a couple of weeks. I was tempted by 2024 WRX Base, because EyeSight is just that much better than Honda-Sensing, in my experience, but that port-injected 2.0NA and hatchback is just so right for me. Got the out-the-door price written down on paper, and I even recorded the conversation to make sure the deal is off if they do anything to the car other than PDI. As for the leak, if mine leaks, I wouldn't know for years, because it's unlikely to see a drop of rain under my ownership. I simply don't drive much, and I'll still have the Fit EX MT6. Regardless, I love owners sharing knowledge. Owners often know more than dealer drones.
Just purchased a 24 in the exact trim and color last week… live in Rhode Island and as of now have seen no issue with the hatch.. have had a ton of rain the past couple of weeks and so far so good. Wondering if I’m getting lucky or if Honda changed something. Love your channel btw (new sub) just ordered the same UK spoiler and some Tuxmat floor mats seeing I got the cheap carpet mats with mine
lol I was just in the back of my CR-Z trying to find a similar leak. I pulled it all apart and I still haven't found the source. Replaced the seal around the hatch and noticed a little dent in the hatch where it meets the seal so that might be a clue to some of the water coming in but I think the glass might also be leaking.
I traded in my leaking '22 Civic Hatchback for a Passport 2 months ago. I didn't want to be stuck with this problem anymore. I had numerous "fixes" and each one would last for 2-3 months. It was also running out of warranty and I got sick of dealing with this issue.
Do you have a video on removing that interior trim to expose the hatch? I don’t have a leak but do need to sound deaden that hatch to fix a rattle from a subwoofer. I can’t find any info on the removal process.
Just found this in my car, have about 2 inch’s of water in the tire well. Everyone needs to file complaints to the NHSTA to have this has a full recall. I have read so many posts about this. It’s a design flaw and Honda needs to pony up the money to fix everyone’s car
@naus great channel, I’ve been on the fence about the 2.0 seems like a great daily driver. What percentage of vehicles do you think are affected by this leak? Also, it’s gotta be a matter of time when corporate recalls to fix, right?
Been 3 years and Honda corporate is still saying no announced solution. Happy to say I have found the issue and my hatch is currently not leaking since I filmed this video . Next video uploaded will show the fix in detail!
@@NAUS2K I do not, the service tech said it would not be available at the moment because it was so new. I contacted my dealer and they're aware of the bulletin. Thank you again for your outstanding videos.
I took mine to the dealer a year ago and was fixed.. or so I thought. Not long ago it rained hard for a whole day... Next day i opened my hatch and there it was the leak again.. At this point im not even sure what to do with it tbh. i dont plan to keep this car anyway
It’s pretty simple, 2 screws are visible, they need to be removed, then there is two more under the hook covers for the privacy cover tray. Once those 4x screws are removed, you just need to pry down and around the edge of it , it’s a bunch of plastic clips
I swear these new Civics have way too many problems. Kind of embarrassing given their reputation. Have you run into issues with the dash creaking like mad and the turning radius?
Is it always such a small amount of water that pours out, like exposed in this video ? or is it for demonstration only ? This couple-of-spoons amount there is fairly small and could be the result of condensation. Car panels hole such as these pointed are usually not made for dealing with actual water ingress, instead they are condensation exit path. A few drops such as what you showed can be expected especially when the air is moist and cold, such as in the morning. However, car designers usually place these holes where it has to leave the car and cannot accumulate to a small puddle. If this hypothesis is plausible to you, water accumulation would be the result of a poor choice regarding the hatch condensation exit drains, that lead into the trunk and end up accumulating under high moisture conditions. Thus explaining how many people have the same issue but not everyone. Panels are made identical without a doubt, influence of weather and other humidity parameters exterior to the car could explain discrepancy between owners observations. Never mind if the actual amount of water is significantly more.
It’s not condensation, it only happens after a day or two of rain. Honda has came back and informed me that zero water should ever exit those drains if sealed properly. I open the hatch daily when it rains and the clips shown in this video is the usual amount. If I didn’t open the hatch for let’s say a month straight, the water will build up I. The hatch and start spilling into the spare tire area. However if you drain the hatch daily it will never have a chance to overflow and get to the spare tire area. The clip shown in the beginning of the spare tire are full of water was about a week after I took delivery of the car, so it was most likely because the car sat outside for a month or two before it was delivered to my dealer, and in that time the hatch was not opened. Also, the drain points I show in this video are inside the seal when the hatch is closed, they are not exposed to the outside environment
@@NAUS2K I wondered where I had seen it, I have the same car and went out to check mine the minute I watched it, luckily they were seated nice and tight and I have had no problems.
I've already been there with MS Honda in Gastonia NC. They pulled out all the bolts and put sealant around them and it still leaks. it's a guessing game to them. They will not even call you back. I spoke to another dealer and he said Honda put out SB 24-110 on 9-18-2024
Bro, I’ve seen another video you made about some engine rattling and now you have a water leak! This car is definitely a lemon. I had a 2022 Honda accord 2.ot sport that I bought new and it had so much issues I ended up getting rid of it.. after many visits to the dealer with out any fix. Unfortunately Honda is not what they used to be.. they are trash now.. totally trash 🗑️
On the edge of my seat for part 2 and the solution!
Give me a couple days to finish it, it won’t be long !
Closely following this since I have the exact car and exact problem. Thanks for doing all the hard work. I’m too busy to investigate and certainly too busy to get jerked around by a dealer which I know would happen.
Video of the fix will be out tomorrow morning!
Great video! I really hope you get this issue resolved. I picked up the same exact car (2.0L NA engine with manual transmission) as yours 6 days ago, but the 2024 model. 2 days ago we had torrential downpours here in the NYC area and when things cleared up yesterday, I checked my hatch as well as the spare tire well and was relieved to discover that there were no leaks or water build up. With that said, however, I do want to keep in the know about this issue because you never know when I might end up experiencing the same issue. Your channel is invaluable.
Best of luck with the issue. I ended up having to switch though. For context, I used to own a 2017 Civic Hatchback until this year. At that time it felt like a better deal, because the hatchback still had the LX trim and all trims came with the 1.5T. Tie that in with the 6MT, and it was a perfect value car imo. I probably would've stayed with that car for another 5 years without any issues. But I had the opportunity to get a 2023 Sport one instead. And I just wasn't feeling it. After 2 months, I finally committed to swapping for a 2024 WRX Base. And man, this is exactly what I'm looking for. But I'll still stop by to look at your content, keep it up.
I left Honda behind as well. You did exactly the right thing.
I finally put a deposit down on a white one to be delivered in a couple of weeks. I was tempted by 2024 WRX Base, because EyeSight is just that much better than Honda-Sensing, in my experience, but that port-injected 2.0NA and hatchback is just so right for me. Got the out-the-door price written down on paper, and I even recorded the conversation to make sure the deal is off if they do anything to the car other than PDI.
As for the leak, if mine leaks, I wouldn't know for years, because it's unlikely to see a drop of rain under my ownership. I simply don't drive much, and I'll still have the Fit EX MT6.
Regardless, I love owners sharing knowledge. Owners often know more than dealer drones.
If you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for your 2.0L hatchback with 6 speed?
Just purchased a 24 in the exact trim and color last week… live in Rhode Island and as of now have seen no issue with the hatch.. have had a ton of rain the past couple of weeks and so far so good. Wondering if I’m getting lucky or if Honda changed something. Love your channel btw (new sub) just ordered the same UK spoiler and some Tuxmat floor mats seeing I got the cheap carpet mats with mine
lol I was just in the back of my CR-Z trying to find a similar leak. I pulled it all apart and I still haven't found the source. Replaced the seal around the hatch and noticed a little dent in the hatch where it meets the seal so that might be a clue to some of the water coming in but I think the glass might also be leaking.
I traded in my leaking '22 Civic Hatchback for a Passport 2 months ago. I didn't want to be stuck with this problem anymore. I had numerous "fixes" and each one would last for 2-3 months. It was also running out of warranty and I got sick of dealing with this issue.
Do you have a video on removing that interior trim to expose the hatch? I don’t have a leak but do need to sound deaden that hatch to fix a rattle from a subwoofer. I can’t find any info on the removal process.
Just found this in my car, have about 2 inch’s of water in the tire well. Everyone needs to file complaints to the NHSTA to have this has a full recall. I have read so many posts about this. It’s a design flaw and Honda needs to pony up the money to fix everyone’s car
Honda only "pony's up" when they lose class action lawsuits.
@naus great channel, I’ve been on the fence about the 2.0 seems like a great daily driver. What percentage of vehicles do you think are affected by this leak? Also, it’s gotta be a matter of time when corporate recalls to fix, right?
Been 3 years and Honda corporate is still saying no announced solution. Happy to say I have found the issue and my hatch is currently not leaking since I filmed this video . Next video uploaded will show the fix in detail!
@@NAUS2K Thanks for a quick reply, looking forward to next video and solution!
You should name the dealer that hasn't helped you.
Honda SB 24-110 was issued on 9-18-2024. It seems like a bandaid fix to me, why is so much water pouring out on both sides of the panel?
Do you have a link to where I can read the bulletin ? Thanks for the info I’d love to check it out
@@NAUS2K I do not, the service tech said it would not be available at the moment because it was so new. I contacted my dealer and they're aware of the bulletin. Thank you again for your outstanding videos.
I took mine to the dealer a year ago and was fixed.. or so I thought. Not long ago it rained hard for a whole day... Next day i opened my hatch and there it was the leak again.. At this point im not even sure what to do with it tbh. i dont plan to keep this car anyway
can you make a video on how to remove the interior hatch panel
It’s pretty simple, 2 screws are visible, they need to be removed, then there is two more under the hook covers for the privacy cover tray. Once those 4x screws are removed, you just need to pry down and around the edge of it , it’s a bunch of plastic clips
hey question, did you ever figure out the fluttering sound your civic had. I hear it in mine and it’s driving me crazy.
Nope, still rattles and flutters. I don’t hear it with the radio on though
@@NAUS2K lol same not messing up my driving, just blast that music lol. Thank you! hopefully we find something soon keep it up the good tips too.
Awe man
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I swear these new Civics have way too many problems. Kind of embarrassing given their reputation. Have you run into issues with the dash creaking like mad and the turning radius?
whats with the turning radius? I mean i know it sucks but is there anything else?
Is it always such a small amount of water that pours out, like exposed in this video ? or is it for demonstration only ?
This couple-of-spoons amount there is fairly small and could be the result of condensation. Car panels hole such as these pointed are usually not made for dealing with actual water ingress, instead they are condensation exit path. A few drops such as what you showed can be expected especially when the air is moist and cold, such as in the morning.
However, car designers usually place these holes where it has to leave the car and cannot accumulate to a small puddle. If this hypothesis is plausible to you, water accumulation would be the result of a poor choice regarding the hatch condensation exit drains, that lead into the trunk and end up accumulating under high moisture conditions. Thus explaining how many people have the same issue but not everyone. Panels are made identical without a doubt, influence of weather and other humidity parameters exterior to the car could explain discrepancy between owners observations. Never mind if the actual amount of water is significantly more.
It’s not condensation, it only happens after a day or two of rain. Honda has came back and informed me that zero water should ever exit those drains if sealed properly. I open the hatch daily when it rains and the clips shown in this video is the usual amount. If I didn’t open the hatch for let’s say a month straight, the water will build up I. The hatch and start spilling into the spare tire area. However if you drain the hatch daily it will never have a chance to overflow and get to the spare tire area. The clip shown in the beginning of the spare tire are full of water was about a week after I took delivery of the car, so it was most likely because the car sat outside for a month or two before it was delivered to my dealer, and in that time the hatch was not opened. Also, the drain points I show in this video are inside the seal when the hatch is closed, they are not exposed to the outside environment
Does the integra have this issue also?
I do not believe so
I believe the problem is a washer that is not seated properly up by the hinge on either side.
Yes I’m the one who made that video that follows this one lol
@@NAUS2K I wondered where I had seen it, I have the same car and went out to check mine the minute I watched it, luckily they were seated nice and tight and I have had no problems.
I've already been there with MS Honda in Gastonia NC. They pulled out all the bolts and put sealant around them and it still leaks. it's a guessing game to them. They will not even call you back. I spoke to another dealer and he said Honda put out SB 24-110 on 9-18-2024
So unfortunate how Honda has cost-cut in areas the customer cannot see.
Honda wants to charge $5k over sticker for this feature?
Time to trade it in.... jk 😂 wish you would've got a Corolla GR or Type R for our viewing pleasure instead base civic
Plenty of TH-cam channels out there making content of the Type R daily. I’m the only one making vids of this affordable spec !
@@NAUS2K your not wrong on that
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Bro, I’ve seen another video you made about some engine rattling and now you have a water leak! This car is definitely a lemon. I had a 2022 Honda accord 2.ot sport that I bought new and it had so much issues I ended up getting rid of it.. after many visits to the dealer with out any fix. Unfortunately Honda is not what they used to be.. they are trash now.. totally trash 🗑️