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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- After months of waiting and verifying this fixed my leaking issue, i present to you the culprit of my leaking hatch! Thank you again to Eric N. for reaching out and getting this information to me.
Looking inside the hatch:
• Inside The Leaking Hat...
![Civic Hatchback Si Rear Suspension Swap [2022-2024]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wGYr40fRGZA/mqdefault.jpg)
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Brilliant! You and your body shop expert in Canada deserve kudos!
I second that! Honda should hire you or pay you for the huge amount of time you spent doing their engineers' job.
@NAUS, you should've filmed the other side bracket to see if it's flush or not just for comparison..
The other side is flush, sorry you are right it would have been helpful to show that
Honda should pay you or at least the body work guy Erik for figuring this out because that is something they CLEARLY should have been able to find. I actually thought it might be the plastic gate area in the center cause there is a bump there but guess not. Mine leaked at first but haven't seen it in a while...will keep an eye out. Fantastic video and well put together to highlight the issue/solution. Have a feeling that issue was weighing heavily on your enjoyment of the car, drive on!
Glad you got this resolved, but it sucks that you pretty much had to diagnos this issue on your own. Feels like your local dealer (maybe all Honda dealers) aren't allowed to get creative and resolve repeatable issues unless they go through the red tape that is corporate Honda.
Great job - you just may have developed the TSB solution for Honda Corporate!
I have a 2024 and have the same issue. I have had it to the dealership twice and it’s still leaking. I just ran across your video which I will share with them. I did tell them I had found several people that had had issues with the leaking and of course they said they never heard of this. I’m supposed to take it back next week. I’m gonna give them one more shot and give them your video on how to fix their problem. Thanks for sharing.
Let us know how it goes!
Did you get the dealer to fix the leak?
@@cmbiker they finally fixed it after I showed him the video. Before fixing it, they sealed every rivet in the hatchback with some sort of sealer and it looks like a four-year-old did it. I’m in the process of trying to get them to buy the car back because they also bent my hatchback in the process, we shall
@@angiewalker4108 How did it all work out?!
@@IStink3 I’m still waiting on corporate on a decision to buy back the car
Naus, hey man, when you find a problem, you just don't let go. With the help that you just provided will allow hundreds of hatchback owners to fix their hatchback water leak. BTW i finally found a six speed boost blue hatchback at the tucson Honda dealer but they didn't want to give me much of anything for my 21 accord 20 turbo 10 speed so i'm still looking. Your car is low production and scarce. I still want one though.
This is awesome work. Thank you. I haven't had this leak issue in the 2024 Civic Hatchback I bought in January 2024, but I keep checking for water after I drive in the rain. I'm not taking anything for granted.
Glad you posted an update we just had some heavy rain fall in Cali and my hatch door started leaking again after not leaking for 4 months
Glad you found and resolved this problem and thanks for sharing! My wife and I picked up our manual Sport Hatch last weekend and I was nervous about this issue. I just checked our bolts and they looked good, so we can rest easy now. So far, we LOVE the car and never would have considered it were it not for this channel. Thanks, NAUS!
Appreciate the comment Chris! Enjoy the car man!!!!
Thank you very much. Just purchased a civic sport hatch with manual transmission. I now know what to do if a leak shows up. Love all your videos.
I just purchased my hatchback this week and found the exact same leak today! Call the dealership and sharing this information immediately. Thank you
I’m going to check my rivets tomorrow although I have had no leaks on my 2024. I’m kind of bewildered that a body shop out of Canada and your efforts have revealed the source of the leak before Honda. I had some body panels misaligned off the truck on mine. Honda did take care of me on that end and fixed the issues at no cost.
Bingo! I have the precise defect on the right side! Thanks!
Glad I could help
@@NAUS2K if I could post a picture, you’d probably laugh. Right side is so bad.
Thanks for your video. I’m glad we now know why the trunk has a leak in a brand new car less than a year old. Very disappointing, I hope the dealership fixes this correctly.
So happy you resolved the issue. You should get a nice led T10 bulb for your hatch trunk.
Expecting delivery in 2 weeks of my UK spec Civic. Will be keeping my eye on this one!
Great info! Thanks for sharing. So far my 24 LX hatch has shown no signs of leaking, but I live in Florida so that might be why. The good thing, is that your local dealer passed the information up the chain so maybe Honda corporate will issue a tsb so they can resolve the issue in the future.
We shall see! Let’s hope the leak doesn’t come back!
NAUS I've got the same car as you including the color and drivetrain. The only way my car has been exposed to water is when washing the car and heavy rain while traveling and I've experienced no leakage. I have checked the area where the spare tire is stored and found no standing water or moisture. I have directly after washing noticed water run down and collect along the side channels of the hatch and drip from the top of the hatch after opening, but after driving it for a time, the water evaporates. I will check that bracket area on both sides of the hatch just to check the condition of the rivets. Thanks for the update. I always look forward to and enjoy your videos. Btw, my tranny was from India so I guess Honda outsources quite a bit.
Thank you for the comment. Yes my transmission was assembled in India as well. I have had no issues with it though. The parts are not made in India, just assembly, so as long as they are trained properly, I don’t see how that’s a concern
Thank you man! My car has a water leak as well. Tomorrow morning imma check that rivet too. I appreciate your video and will send it over to the dealer.
Was your rivet not fully seated?
That's great news! I hope it holds up. The key to resolving any issue like this is first finding the source/cause, which has obviously been a tedious and exhausting process for you. Honda should compensate you in some way for all the frustration you have experienced and time you have dedicated to doing what they should have done from day one when a significant number of reports from owners started coming in about this issue. No doubt that Honda has dropped the ball on QC lately. Hope they get their sh*t together and take some pride in their products again.
I will be sharing this video at the Honda location my car is at. My car is a 2023 Honda civic hatchback in white color doing the same thing. This is attempt #2 that they have approved and done a repair on through the dealership. Now tomorrow I go to pick it up from the whole hatch being replaced. This is something I will verify is done to my car before I pick it up !!!
Thank you
Very cool. Thanks for the unrelenting endeavors to solve this issue. I have no leaks but going to have a look at the rivets asap.
Glad you got it fixed. I've learned all new cars are trash working at many dealerships. 2010 is about my cap for personal cars
Glad you got the issue resolved. I was lucky enough I did not experience the leak issue I learned about after ordering and waiting 6months for my '23 Platinum White Civic Sport 6MT hatch during the 6 months I had mine. I was also a bit concerned about the durability of the hatch when I learned it was made of resin. After having a CR-V for 7 years, I forgot how LOW Civics are to the ground (I know my Premium White Pearl '11 CR-Z EX 6MT was low, and even having severe sciatica, I had no problems getting in and out of my Tango Red Pearl '08 Civic EX 5MT sedan and was wondering if the front doors were shorter in length or if the B pillar has moved forward that drastically). I'm a big guy, but getting in and out of my new Civic was problematic. I really had to do a rotating swing with my right leg while crouching my left leg to be able to get down into the car-and had to make sure my right pocket(s) were empty or my leg wouldn't clear under the steering wheel. Never got a technique to master getting out, but at least I never had to fling myself out onto the yard or curb. The problem I had with my new Civic was that the pedals felt off center and out of place to me-like they were an inch or so right of where they should have been. I traded my Civic for a Canyon River Blue Accord EX and it's a good car, but it's nowhere near as great as the Civic. I'm considering ordering another Civic Sport 6MT hatch in the next year as opposed to a CB1000R, but this time I'll go with silver. After getting the windows tinted and getting red leather front seat covers, my Civic looked SHARP but it caught the attention of everyone who thought they should have been in the Fast and Furious but weren't. I really enjoy your channel and you do an excellent job with it. AND YOUR DUCK TAIL IS ON POINT!
Thank you for the comment my friend! I agree my old 8thgen civics had much more room to get in and out of, the doors were longer. Honda made the hood super long on this generation and shrunk down the doors quite a bit
Thanks for all the videos. I will have to take a look at my hatch and see if I have a gap. My car stays covered so I don't deal with a lot of water only when I wash it. Hopefully Honda decides to do something about this and give you a big thank you.
Thanks for the update! I have the same car and same leak. This will definitely help me.
Let us know if you have the same issue!
Did you get your leak fixed?
Went in today for my 24 hatch and they used sealant. Appreciate the video!
Glad to hear!! Hopefully this spawns a recall or TSB soon!
Awesome!!! This is fantastic news! Thank you.
How many people are checking their spare tire in their new 2023 car? Of course there is no recall. I had water in mine but my driver side rear lights were broken I have to check again. Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for sharing this. My '23 STH has this issue as well. I will show this vid to my dealer.
I've had the same problem with my 2023 since got it new. Had it back to dealer 2 days later for a solution and have been on the hamster wheel ever since. Saw this video today and went back to the dealer to talk about it. In this video you said your dealer finally got Honda HQ to act. Can you tell me the name of that Honda dealership. Im in NY and am hoping my dealer's service manager can communicate with yours to help get the ball rolling on my end. Thanks for all of this!
4:06 Very good troubleshooting, thanks! I’ve just check mine, the plastic washer is properly installed. You showed us also what in my opinion, it’s a good design of the water drain system from Honda.
Bought a brand new ‘24 a week ago. Looked at the rivets and they looked good. It was just delivered to dealer that day so I hoped maybe Honda addressed it. Nope. Took it to get tint yesterday. They washed it. Opened the hatch a few hours later and water started dripping on my head from same spot everyone else is experiencing. Quite a bit of water inside the hatch.
Actually, the tint guys didn't wash it. Car wasn't washed yesterday. It's leaking simply from the heavy dew yesterday and today. Same thing this morning. Wow. Honda really needs to address this. Come on.
Needed to wash it last weekend. I didn’t want the dealer messing with it as they didn’t have a solution. I just took a #40 drill bit and drilled tiny holes in the 4 tiny dimples in the back of the hatch. You have to be looking for them to notice. Super clean. Super tiny. Washed it. Water drained onto bumper and didn’t pool inside the hatch. I figured if I did it, it would be super clean and barely noticeable, instead of letting someone else make a mess of it. Took all of 30 secs.
So even though your rivets are flush, you still managed to get leaks? That’s so weird
Just purchased a new '24 Sport HB, looked at the rivet you mentioned in the video and it has a gap just like yours. Luckily it hasn't been rained on yet.
I filled the space of the bracket that goes over the rivet with duct seal, which should do the trick.
Been dealing with this issue in my 2022 sport touring for over a year now. Dealer had no idea how to fix it. They have already tried replacing the whole back windshield. I will show them this video on tuesday as i have my car booked in again for this same problem
My local dealer has fixed another hatch with this same fix successfully after mine. Just a heads up!
I recently had my Honda Civic hatchback’s trunk window tinted and encountered the same issue with water leaking from the same spot as you described, but mine took about 3 days for the dripping to stop every time I opened the trunk.
I just had mine tinted today and had a leaky hatch. I'm guessing it's just from what they use getting squeegied down and off to the sides. I have a 2024 sport hatch 6MT and have not had any leaks beforehand. Looked at my rivets, and they are seated pretty flush. If anything, I would think you could just inject some silicone into that opening to seal the rivet if you have any leaks that don't pertain to a tint job.
Thanks! I’ve just watched your videos on this car you got last year, and since I bought mine just yesterday this gives me a ton of information for things to check out. On it!
Amazing, so glad u found the source of the leak finally. I have a 2024 hatch, I'll be sure to take a look in that area for poorly seated hardware.
UPDATE: Left rivet fully seated. Right rivet is mostly seated, looks like it is not sitting flush, so one side is seated and other side has some minor lift :(. Only time will tell if it will leak. Car is not driven much and kept in doors. But so glad we now know where to look. Thanks again for the amazing videos. ❤
Honda needs to come to your house to repair the leak.
Thanks for sharing the info. I haven't had mine in the rain yet but will be looking for leaks when I do.
I’m really hoping on Honda fixing this by themselves soon. This is one reason why I’m putting off purchase of the hatch. I don’t want the anxiety of dealing with leaking water. Hoping it’s fixed for 2025 model.
My personal experience is that neither Honda or Toyota builds them as solid/reliable as they used to, & both cut more little corners than ever in craftsmanship/quality these days - though a lot of the problems are also all the added over-engineered tech-bloat on newer vehicles in-general bringing down longer-term reliability & problem-free ownership experiences. Good luck out there.
Yes is pretty disappointing how fast these brands are falling.. They gotta stop making cars so damm complex and go back to the reliable barebones. I guess they just care about money
Love the spoiler. Wish they had it in boost blue.
They finally fixed my leak after I showed him the video on how to do it. They also bent my hatchback in the process. They sealed everything in the hatchback and it looks like a three-year-old did it I’m in the process of trying to make them buy it back, it’s been going on for three weeks and they’re giving me the runaround so we’ll see
I'm sorry to hear that. I love Hondas, but the dealerships/service departments are run by a bunch of clowns.
Yeah I had my hatch 22 for about 2 years. Never really noticed it till now. Now im out of warranty and honda doesn’t even want to cover the diagnosis. Im screwed. The leak is starting to leave a mildew smell. Thats how i knew to start looking up what it might be and now it makes sense. I have this leak.
Thank you for sharing! I will look at this area of the hatch bracket when I get my new Civic this week. Might it be possible to inject sealer into the gap between the hatch and the bracket without removing bolts so as to avoid upsetting hatch alignment?
Yes you may be able to do that. That’s what I was going to do if the dealer never agreed to do it for me
Appreciate this making an appointment asap
Very informative! Thanks for sharing!
Good to know this was resolved. Was this warranty repaired? I juat got a '24 Civic Sport Hatch and doing a ton of research. 😁
I don’t have a civic, leaking hatch but now know what might be going on if I ever own a civic lol
You're a LEGEND
I just bought the 2024 I’m going have to see if it’s made the same way hmmm
I have this issue with our 2024. Supposedly there’s a new recall out for it and we are currently waiting parts 🤷♂️
Excellent thank you Iam glad you fix it
I wish Honda would issue a TSB on this. Doing the fix ourselves would be very expensive.
Nice video! I am taking delivery on my 2024 Civic Hatch SGP 6MT this week! Do you have any tints on your car or is that factory?
This is factory
Bought mine in May 2022. Leak started just a few months later and returned repeatedly. Multiple trips to Honda service in vain. Sold it in March 2024. I wasn't going to keep paying for a brand new car with a mysterious leak.
Thanks for sharing this
I remember back in 2000’s on 7th Gen Accord models leaked water on the roof molding on 03 models. It was TSB they issued. i feel after 2018 alot of cars lost. quality.
My dealer said it was the latch too they replaced the taillight gaskets but same problem
Same problem! Honda Civic hatchback 2022.
Thank you
thanks for the vid
Ugh. Mine is leaking like this. 2023. Gonna try some hot glue.
Damn good to know I'm curious if this is associated with the Integra? I'm going to check my car now!
Have not heard of any issues with the integra , though it’s worth a look!
2023 hatchback thankfully haven't had this problem so far
I am already out of warranty, so thinking about fixing this myself, though it seems for me the culprit is probably on the left side.
Was there a specific mileage when this leak appeared?
How many miles the car currently have?
6400 miles currently. It leaked from the day I drove it off the showroom floor
Do you think the leaky hatch problem could lead to future issues like corrosion of electrical wires? I have a rubber cargo tray so I’m not worried about mold.
I woundbt be too worried about the wires , I would be worried about the electrical latch for the hatch failing if it was submerged. Also, the rubber cargo tray won’t help prevent mold, if the hatch does fill up with water and overflow into the spare tire area, it will drip down the edge of the trunk fabric between your cargo tray edge
@@NAUS2K thanks for the input! How’s your hatch been since it’s been 3 months since you’ve filmed this video. Any leaks?
No leaks since! Bone dry !
We just got a 2024. I hope we don't run into this issue. Could you figure out how to lift up the rear wiper ?
Still have not figured this out!!
Noticed you have those triangle shaped streaks on the hatch? I have those too on my 2024 sport touring. Do you know what it is?
Those are just from the injection molding process of the panel I believe. Nothing to do with water
Same problem, mine is more on the left side
24 civics don't have a recall for this it seems. But 22 & 23 models have a recall for leaking hatch.
I wonder if they will do a recall for 24 hatch .
Do you have details on that? Last I knew Honda has not announced any recall or TSB for this for all years 2022-2024
Just out of curiosity, at what mileage did you (or will you do) the first oil change on your Civic?
Was able to get the dealer to do it at 3200 due to the leaking valve cover
I picked it up today after them having it for a week and they said that they sell the rivets and now it’s worse than it was before
Sounds like yours is a different issue then!
Need more lights on the video.
Was your rear window fogging up like crazy before the leak was fixed?
Not really, I never let it build up in the trunk that much since I was aware of it
What happened to Japón quality 10gen never had that problem , bad design
Quality from Japan is still awesome. All the type Rs are made exclusively in Japan and none have this issue. All these sport models hatchbacks are made in the US
Anyone have a squeaky noise from there seat ? My hatchback started to make this noise off and on for a few months
My drivers seat squeaks pretty bad. 23 Sport touring.
@@saladsnsuch mine 24 sport. It kinda comes and goes. But it can be loud
Check your seat buckle. While sitting in your seat and the seatbelt on, try using your hand hold onto the plastic part that going to the seatbelt buckle and wiggling it around without moving your body. Now you should be able to identify which part made the squeak noise. For me, it is the seatbelt buckle and I spray silicon lubricate into or you can ask the dealer to replace the seatbelt buckle for you.
Im in the market for one of these, and i would 100% go for the manual. My only concern is what about when i want to trade it in? Will i get less value since the manual is purchased less, or am i overthinking it?
This is a car you buy and plan to keep until it rots out. After this year there won’t be any more manuals in the regular civics
Do you think it would be possible to just fill the gap between the bracket and rivet in total to stop it?
Yeah I’m sure that would work, I was going to do that if I could not get the dealer to
Are you able to get the exact date when your car was build?
My ‘23 Accord has so many design issues, the dealer is no help. Honda has completely given up in quality.
Now they owe you a TYPE R
Ha that would be something !
What color would you get? Still Sonic ? That’s what I have too and love it. 2.0 auto Hatch. Wanted the stick but wife and kids wouldn’t know how to use it in an emergency. Would love to send you pics. Chris in NJ
If I were to get a type R, it would have to be red like my s2000, no other color would be acceptable !
What about the other side??
Other side the rivet is seated properly
Did they do both sides ?
Hi Mate, Like your videos. Recently we have a honda scanner coming, How to work with you?
What do you mean by a Honda scanner, what are you trying to do ?
@@NAUS2K We want to send a Launch honda scanner to you to test, Hope you have a review video for it.
Yes mine has the same issue. Plus mine also has a issue where tge passenger side rear trim pops out weekly at the window bottom. I have to keep popping it back in. I did actually find a letter on line that honda sent to one dealership expressing concern about the leaks. Send me a email or number and i will send it to you, if you want it. Thanks
You can find me on Instagram naus2k_
Hope I don’t have the same problem with my hatch
Where is Eric from? Do you have a link?
He commented on one of my original videos on this issue, then we chatted on Instagram
Has it leaked anymore since then?
Not a drop still! The real test will be next winter when temps drop again
New car's falls apart pretty quickly
i wonder if this is on the FL5 Type r
Probably not being that it’s made in Japan, their level of QC puts the US to shame
Is this a warranty fix?
This was covered under warranty but there is no TSB or recall for it yet. Honda didn’t even know about it until I made this video
Are the hatches made in USA or Japan?
Indiana, USA ;-)
The ones on the type R are made in Japan and as far as I know there are zero reports from leaks on the type Rs
Dont have A hatchback or New York Rain Water to you👉🏾🍀
Mine is still leaking they’ve repaired twice and still leaking and now it smells like mildew ! I’m going up there today to be a bitch
fuuuuk
wth Honda?
Wtf
Checked my rivet and looks exactly like your before picture 🤦🏽♂️ haven’t dealt with any rain yet to see if it will leak but my car is under 1k miles and I’ve already had to bring it into the dealership to get a front fender misalign fixed. Coming from Toyota, I would have thought Honda QC was at least up to par with them but wow this is dissapointing