Is Calorie Counting a SCAM?
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- From celery to a slice of cake, we are going to explain what 100 Calories actually looks like, and WHY calorie counting is bad for you.
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I finally understand what "processed" in processed food means and what it's significance is ! Thanks
Processed foods aren't processed for the express purpose of being more calorie-dense. They process raw, unprepared food into a food product that can be preserved for longer, or freeze better, or just be an alternative to cooking.
If companies cared about calories, they would have put in work to produce food that doesn't make people obese.
TL;DR Processing is a process and that's why your favourite candy bar is processed food.
I don't think you do. Just because a meal is cooked, doesn't make it "processed". Stripping a food of nutrients, especially when harsh chemicals are used, is what makes it "processed".
@@vitaminb4869 how do you strip a food of nutrients? And why?
@@declaniii6324 Depends on the food, but if taking white rice as an example, it is brown rice that is milled and polished to make it white, which makes it taste better. By doing that you are also stripping away some of the nutrients. Even peeling a potato would classify it as "processed", as you are losing nutrients/vitamins found in the skin. I always eat potato with skin for that reason.
@@vitaminb4869 you freak lol
The video actually shows a good reason to count calories for weight loss. You can eat more food and maintain or lose weight by eating healthier low calorie foods instead of heavily processed calorie dense foods. Not only will it help with your weight it will improve your health overall.
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Exactly. Caloric density is important. Very disappointing video title.
I was thinking the same thing! If it's such a scam then why did it help me get healthier & lose weight?
I don’t understand why they titled it “Counting calories is a scam” other than if it was just meant for clickbait
A lot of diets are scams but counting calories is legit
It's thermodynamics 🗿🗿
@@yanderelover5255 lol pretty much. Energy in and energy out
I've lost 30 pounds from it lol but to be fair I exersise aswell.
@@berserkagain7976 yeah exercise and cardio adds to calories burnt so good work!
Yep, calories in and calories out is all it takes to lose weight. But it also matters what food you’re eating to get your calories. Hence why many overweight people are also malnourished. Or, specifically the type of malnourishment consisting of (usually multiple) deficiencies. You can lose weight eating 1500 calories a day of varied fresh whole food, or you can lose weight eating 1500 calories a day of rainbow Nerds. But one of those diets will likely make you a pretty unhealthy thin person lol 😂
Counting calories was actually really helpful for me. I've been going to the gym for years but I hadn't been getting as big as I wanted to. Then I started to count how many calories I was eating in a day and found out it was between 2000 - 2500 in a normal day (even though I never really went hungry), when I should've been eating 3000 to gain weight. So now I count calories to make sure I eat enough to be able to build muscle, and it's really made a difference.
I just saw a lot of comments recommending counting calories for losing weight so I thought I could also say that if you're looking to gain weight you can still use calorie counting to your benefit
Yeah counting calories is really really good
there is just no way around the basic fundamental truth of the universe that energy in versus energy out equals your body weight not your muscle mass but your body weight
For things like that looking at the nutritional value of the food that your calories have enough proteins or minerals or vitamins et cetera is vital
But there is no getting past that fundamental truth of energy in versus energy out
The issue at hand is that the way calories in food stuffs is determined isn’t representative of why you want to know those values it’s not that the absolute calorie count is important but what your body can use so the issue isn’t with counting calories but how the calories for a human diet are determined
Being aware of what you put in your body beat through counting calories or what ever just that general Awareness of providing your body with what it needs is absolutely admirable if your body burns a lot and you want to gain muscle mass then you might be going to the gym and working yourself to the bone but there simply aren’t the amino acid or calories in your body to facilitate any increase in muscle mass a.k.a. Which would also mean where does your body get the calories for the actual lifting process forget everything about building muscle mass it’s going to use up muscle mass just to get through the workout actually counter-productive
The video itself isn’t bad video and if they had done it the way the Royal Society had done the videos why calories aren’t calories or why calories are being measured wrong it would’ve been a great video but to say counting calories is in any way not the greatest thing since sliced bread or toast it’s just fault I’m very disappointed
You should count protein, not calorie...
@@LittleRadicalThinker This is true, a 500+ calorie surplus to build muscle will most probably make this guy fat in the long run if he's just eating whatever is 500 calories. DON'T dirty bulk, you'll end up hating the way you look, and have to cut back down anyway.
@@LittleRadicalThinker you should just count macros instead
@@LittleRadicalThinker do both, and protein is not the only thing that matters when you're counting macros
I went for my yearly physical a few years ago and the scale said 302lb. It was shocking. I was never that heavy. So I changed what I eat and how much I eat. I stopped eating 3 big slices of pizza and started eating salads. You get the idea. But, I also limited myself to 1500 calories a day. Not pizza calories, but better calories. Beer didn't count, and I never let myself go hungry because it would push me over my daily quota. I dropped down to 202 in about 18 months, and I've been there ever since. I stick to the same diet because I know that if I go back to my old ways, I'll go back to my old size. I feel better about myself because I'm not 302, but also because I've managed to lose 100lbs and keep it off. So, for me, counting calories worked, and continues to work. But it wasn't just 1500 of the same calories as I used to eat. It was 1500 calories of new foods with lower fat and higher protein.
That’s almost exactly what I did
Nice job man
Salads with salad dressing?
@@drivers99 Nope. I've always preferred my salads dry. I do sometimes have dressing, but usually I go without.
@@rickseiden1 smart man, i like it
3:36 - Small correction, I think
Celiac Disease doesn't produce an allergy response. It's classified as an autoimmune disease. While these two might seem similar there's an important distinction: Allergies are when the immune system overreacts to attack the allergen whereas an autoimmune disease is where the immune system attacks the body itself in response to the substance. Regardless, spectacular video as always!
It also does not only require a trip to the bathrom as one would with intolerance. It also destroys the Intestinal villus making it so the body cant take up vitamins, iron etc. The only medicine to staying heatly is avoiding gluten at all cost.
Good to know
if its such a spectacular video, whyd you feel the need to correct him
@@juicywhore because being corrected isn't a criticism. Everyone - but especially scientists - should welcome the opportunity to correct misunderstandings. Think of the opposite: Who could possibly think it's better to remain wrong and potentially cause harm than to be respectfully offered insights on a more accurate version of the world? I'd rather be publicly corrected than privately remain wrong.
@@davetoms1 i made no comment nor mention that correction was considered criticism though. if someone wanted more information about celiac disease (which really isnt what this video is about anyway), they can always google it.
I lost weight by counting calories but I also kept track of the macros because I knew that I ate way less protein than I needed and always overdid carbs.
Now I’m just maintaining my weight at a level and it helps to know the calorific value of different foods to be able to eat more consciously, even though I’m not strictly counting it. It also helps in food preparation because you know that the little bit of extra oil you accidentally poured is actually a lot, fruit juices are not just “mostly water” because they’re actually quite sugary or maybe you could be grilling your sandwich with much less butter and make it crisp up just as well. That being said, it’s definitely not enough to just eat a “low calorie diet” if your goal is to be healthy.
This is a good video. But majority of population is ignorant about basic calorie counting. So for them, they would see this video and conclude - yep, it's no use counting calories.
@@esmonitor it has its limitations but it’s not useless
I’m kinda glad they changed the title
@@esmonitor Most people are counting their calories incorrectly. And nobody knows their metabolism rates anyway. So why bother. Also, low carb diets can be controlled better and there is no need in counting.
@@masterofreality926 fried and boiled eggs both have the same amount of carbs but that doesn’t make them the same. The difference in fat content and the resulting calories is significant and cannot be ignored.
@@rosepinkskyblue Eggs don`t have carbs, or amount is so minuscule, that it`s pointless to even talk about. How about learning stuff first before spewing nonsense.
"Calorie Counting Is Much More Complex" is a more appropriate title, I'd say
Technically, the title of the video is a question, so it’s not making a truth claim that counting calories is a scam
I’ve found calorie counting works best for weight loss. it’s might not be a perfect system, but it’s the most efficient system we have.
Same for me. Is the only way I lose weight.
It's not. It's actually garbage. And makes you more prone to gaining weight in the future as it lowers metabolism and causes you to burn less fat at rest.
@@evila9076 no, starving yourself consistently makes your metabolism slow down.
counting calories, leaving a deficit one day, alternating with no deficit the next day, plus exercise makes you lose weight and does not create a routine your body can settle into.
@@evila9076 Counting is math, and math can't affect your metabolism
@@Sideeffection lmao, great logic there.
Sugar is food and food can't hurt you. Go ahead diabetics feast on sugar.
Ok this is all great, but how much does our calorie absorption differ per person, because at the end of the day, it's still calories absorbed vs calories burned
it doesnt, they are overestimating it by a lot. Notice how they did not give a single exact example, just guesstimates.
Exactly
Exactly. People try to split it a million ways but calories in > calories out = weight gain and a billion dollar industry is hell bent on muddying this so we buy shit that we think is a solution. All studies in the health and fitness industry are funded by the companies trying to sell their products. You can really only trust what universities put out.
Calorie "absorption"? That doesn't make sense. Some people do have higher metabolic rates than others, but we absorb the same.
The whole point is, start with the traditional way of measuring calories, balance your nutrition requirement (RDA) and after all that, experiment with the amount of calories you need. Maybe take help from a professional (doc/dietician). You can always manage your calories, but first supervising your nutrition requirements is important.
I assume, the point of the video was to tell the general public that just because your doc told you to eat 2k kcal, doesn’t mean you feast on that much hamburgers and expect to become fit. Fibres, mineral-vitamin RDA, and percent contribution of the energy nutrients i.e. carbs, proteins and fats is important. You can’t just cut all carbs or all proteins or all fats out. Diet is complex, in aim of regulating it, remember not to hurt yourself.
I just had a thought about how consistent your style has been over the years. I remember being in high-school watching your videos being fascinated by science. Now I'm an adult, an engineer and work for a living. Your videos still ignite the same curiosity in me that they did all those years ago.
This channel went from good legit science to "feel good" buzzfeed pseudo-science
Yes, still calories in vs calories out in the end of the day
What did he say that was wrong? I thought it was a pretty good scientific breakdown of what calories are.
@@mrmagus4553 its a good breakdown on gut health but it seems like the same amount of calories can change drastically from 2 people. Especially with that peanut butter example like what?
@@Rezegn I can see your point. I'm not an expert so I'll try to do some more research
@@mrmagus4553 I don't know what stuff you want to look into, but you do not need to be an expert at all! Not saying it angrily but its simple, its the law of thermodynamics, no research needed
Has an "ex-obese" person, I believe it's videos like this that confuse people trying to lose weight, we don't need to overcomplicate this things unless we are going deep in the topic. On a short timed video it just results on adding messy information to people trying hard to change themselves...
Exactly even if there is nuance to calories, the basic math still stands: If you burn more than you eat you will lose weight
As much as I have enjoyed this channels videos for years, there are some things where they get into the (not to be overly political but it unfortunately is) the "FAR Left" ways of thinking and some of the pseudo-science nonsense of it. This happens to be one of them. Yes there are some very complicated things when it comes to overall nutrition. But when you are dealing with the basics and trying to help someone who is overweight/obese you aren't going to get them to make positive changes if you bog them down with all the difficult stuff to start and more likely than not you will discourage them instead of reassuring them that they CAN make positive healthy changes in their lives. We in the States are surrounded in a culture that pretends to care about others but doesn't actually care enough to say something when it comes to actually helping people much of the time, we prefer to let them "live their lives the way they want" when it can do a great deal of physical and mental harm, the problem we have with obesity is a direct example of that, and unfortunately videos like this only give people more excuses to NOT make positive changes instead of helping with the most important starting factors like counting calories until you get to a healthy body fat % and THEN start worrying about the nutrients in everything you are eating. Counting calories not only teaches people how much they are eating, what they actually require in a day, what is in their foods they eat since they have to track them, but also helps build personal accountability when it comes to their eating. Yes it is a pain at times, but its one of the absolute best ways to begin the difficult journey into healthy lifestyle choices.
Best of luck to you, I know it can be difficult, but you CAN do it.
true! all of this info is correct but also its not what 99% of people need to hear. its not helping anyone
@@james6028 I think he should've emphasized on the fact that the difference is not astronomical. It's almost insignificant and the changes could be like, one less bite of a food compared to another person and that's it.
You do realize that it's a science channel and not a fitness one, don't you? Most people here come to know the nuances of science and not to lose weight.
Yes, it's not exact, but shouldn't the first law of thermodynamics still overrule it? counting should still give you a rough idea of how much energy you've consumed
Yes, the equation is always happening whether you’re paying attention to it or not
It would apply if our energy consumption was perfectly efficient and was the same for each calorie, but it’s a complicated biological process that involves energy loss in the form of heat, chemical transformations, and low percentages of energy absorption that vary wildly from food to food. It doesn’t matter that if lit on fire kale could produce a certain amount of energy if I’m just going to poop out most of that energy anyway. There are also microbes involved that have varying levels of efficiency-so if your gut is overrun by very efficient bacteria, you’ll retain a lot more of the food’s energy than someone with less efficient bacteria. Also, fat isn’t directly produced from excess “energy” but specifically excess sugar, so if you eat a bunch of oil (not recommended for other reasons) it will never get turned into fat. It’s biologically impossible. It will clog your arteries though which can lead to heart disease, but you’ll look great 😅.
@@alisakinzel4187 fat is absolutely not generated only from excess sugar. it's easier to get fat on a high carb diet, but most fat people also eat a high fat diet. fat is difficult for the body to break down, but it's extremely calorie dense so if you don't move in a way that the body can make use of the energy it will be stored as fat even if it's not sugar. You won't simply poop it out.
I'm lactose intolerant. I felt the calories from the milk going down the toilet.
I swear to god it works for me. I have just lost 16 pounds by approximately counting my calories. I had put on a lot of weight working on my ch and the pandemic. Had to do something about.
It works for everybody.
Yeah, same. In my opinion, something like calorie counting places an upper-bound maximum to the number of calories you can absorb. So if you need to eat 1200 Calories to lose 1 lb per week, then eating 1200 Calories will either get you there at exactly the pace you expected, OR FASTER. There is no way you can extract MORE than 1200 Calories out of food that literally only has 1200 Calories. Due to inefficiencies in your micro-biome though, you might be absorbing less. And if you're trying to lose weight...that's actually a good thing!
That is awesome! I need to lose a bit myself, very inspiring.
as long as you eat and drink what is necessary, just being generally aware of how much you eat in a day helps lose weight. Someone who is substancially overweight could just drink lemonade and some vitamins and could survive on mostly fat alone, however fasting this way may not be the healthiest of way to do so, don't take my word on it I am no expert.
That's because the only way to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit, and counting calories helps you track that
I have a B.S. in Nutritional Science from a fairly reputable state school in New England, and I’m a NASM certified personal trainer. I have spent years of my life researching nutrition, anatomy, physiology, and exercise in order to parse through the infuriating pseudoscience. I will say what I’ve always said to my clients. When it comes to numbers on a scale, it’s like a mathematic equation (Calories in - Calories out), and it defies the laws of physics to say otherwise. When it comes to getting muscular, toned, and ripped, its slightly more complicated. I still feel that there has been an entire industry built on overcomplicating all this stuff though.
Also, I never learned about this Atwater person, I was under the impression Calorie calculation was extrapolated via Bomb Calorimetry.
How are you supposed to keep track of how many calories you get “out” precisely though? Isn’t a lot of it eliminated via waste/heat?I heard that if you eat something in excess it’s often just removed to maintain homeostasis (like when you drink more water you pee more). And what about getting the necessary vitamins, amino acids, lipids you need, or maintaining proper bacterial populations? It just seems overly simplistic to talk about calorie consumption when we don’t measure accurately the calorie “out” part since it’s processed differently. The current research heavily favors the “it’s not just how much you eat, but what you eat” concept of weight gain-if you’d like I can try and send you some peer-reviewed articles!
@@alisakinzel4187 In a clinical setting you can measure your metabolic needs via direct or indirect calorimetry, or the doubly labeled water test. However, the common TDEE equations are estimates based on the aggregation of past results and the methodology of these tests. Some energy is lost in the form of heat sure, but this can be accounted for as well. Ideally if your body is functioning properly it should be able to absorb the nutrients needed in the food as it passes through your GI tract before it’s excreted. Vitamins are micronutrients, they have little to no caloric value. Amino acids are simply the building blocks that constitute proteins. A lipid is just another name for a dietary fat. Maintaining a healthy gut microbiome is most useful in the digestion of fiber and a healthy diet should take care of this on its own for the majority of the population. Much of the current research is misinterpreted, which is why I think you may not thoroughly grasp some of the basic concepts of Nutritional Science. From an epidemiological standpoint it can be useful to look at the trends of what is being eaten to make associations to the health of a given population. However, to say that because a person that eats fast food every day likely does not worry about how many calories they are actually taking in is not to say that the overabundance of energy in this person’s diet is not what’s making them overweight. Of course it is healthier to eat less processed food, but it does not have a direct 1:1 correlation w/ weight. Even so, causality ≠ correlation.
Weird, because I've seen experts say the laws of physics don't always apply the same to our body, particularly when it comes to CICO. Granted, there are a lot of shitty nutrionists out there that don't know this.
Would you say that the number on the scale is, generally, a good indication of weight loss/ gain?
I wouldn’t quite say it is a scam. Just like you stated it is much more complex than just the calorie number, the way someone would use counting them to their life is more than just “good “or bad.” If someone happens to be a person that is gaining weight due to the direct ingestion of more calories than they are using a day, figuring out what their maintenance calorie count would be so they can go into a deficit in order to lose weight if that’s what they desire, and vice versa for someone that has a hard time putting on weight so they can get bigger. There’s SO much more than just calories themselves, like your individual micro biome, the actual macronutrients you’re eating, and so much more, so the best thing to do before choosing whether or not to or not to count calories or whatever is figure out how these things work and what things will benefit you based on YOUR needs. Other than that, very informative video.
I have a feeling the title is intended to drum up a bit of clickbaity engagement.
Agreed. its not a scam. Its just that its complex. I'm not sure why they chose such a misleading clickbaity title for the video. It doesn't help anyone learn anything. This is a popular science channel. Just title it "Calories are more complex than you think" and people will still watch it, be informed, and you won't mislead anyone.
All of those are variables that should be taken into account when calorie counting, but they don't make calorie counting not work, scam or whatever.
At the end of the day, it is against the laws of thermodynamics to gain weight while burning more energy than you consume. There are a lot of ways to get the numbers wrong when counting due to such things as what you listed, but again, that doesn't make calorie counting a scam.
Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Exactly what I was going to say but you already did a great job explaining it lol
we don't need to change what a calorie is, a calorie is a measure of energy, we need to change how we think of calories in diets (I know it's what Asap meant).
People had been following the food pyramid as if we're the Messiah for living. Apparently the food pyramid was so effective we have the highest obesity rates here in America. Calories in calories out- the conventional way that's worked out SO WELL.
It’s calories in vs calories out based on your metabolism. If person A eats 2500 calories everyday for a month they may stay the same. If person B eats 2500 calories everyday for a month they may gain weight. Same thing goes for person C who loses weight eating the same.
All based on how your metabolism uses the energy and how much muscle mass you have, and how much you use the energy.
I want to add to this, NEAT or non exercise activity thermogenesis, plays a big role in how high your 'metabolism' is. NEAT being things like how much your fidget or how expressive you are with your body when you talk. This all adds up over the course of a day. That alongside how much actual lean muscle tissue you carry, has an overall impact on your metabolism. It takes a lot more energy for muscle to exist than it does for fat. Two people of the same height, weight, ethnicity, hell even identical clone on the genetic level, would have different metabolisms both weighing 170 pounds if one was overweight but the other carried a larger quantity of muscle. The 170 pound person with more muscle would burn more calories than the overweight person at 170 pounds just by existing.
So get up and be active, 150 minutes of moderate cardio a week which basically breaks down to go for a 23 minute walk everyday at the very least and do some resistance training to build a little muscle and increase your overall calorie expenditure.
One important thing to remember though, you get healthy with exercise, you lose weight in the kitchen. Make sure you are eating adequate calories to maintain and make sure to eat in a slight caloric deficit to lose.
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@@xIronwafflexx ahhhh, I knew you are subscribed to biolayne by the way your comment is written
@@xIronwafflexx you think that exercises play big role in metabolism? Oh is that right? How much I should exercise to finally digest fiber?
If somebody doesn't have lactase - how much should this person exercise to digest lactose?
As you should understand from those questions - exercises doesn't change your metabolism as you claim. But what is fact - if you exercise more you also eat more. This is nothing new to bo honest. So everything stays in balance.
Hormones are the answer. Hormones control everything if your body. If you don't understand then there is no point speaking with you.
EDIT: The original title of this video is "Calorie counting is a scam" enough backlash at least caused them to change the title...
I dont know. I follow other science channels that claim the opposite, yet also have many sources. I've counted calories down to the exact amount and managed to lose 25+ pounds as intended when I was on Keto, and to have also gained 40 pounds as intended when I decided to bulk, eating more protein and also more carbs as well. My wife the same, she started bulking when lifting and went from 145 - 180 as intended over the year, logging calories each meal and weighing foods.. my father the same, he went from 290 - 200 in a year with very specific calorie counting. We have all been very honest when logging the calories, day in and day out, that's not something easy to do, but many people do it and just do not post about it online. I know a multitude of overweight people who I see eat not only garbage but a lot of it, try and break down exactly what a larger set person eats in a day and it's typically a lot.
I do think there's a lot of truth to some of this information, but then again a messed up microbiome might mean depression, which could mean moving around less. Try eating a lot and not moving whatsoever, it'll cause obesity, you wont be using energy. There is a lot more to consider than one side to an argument in a 5 minute video.
Not gonna get into the keto thing bc if it works for you then thats golden. But still, CICO, calories in, calories out still matters most, but now the nutritional field, from what most experts have been saying for quite some time, but was just accepted into our current culture, is that calorie source also matters.
they are grossly overstating the importance of the factors they are listing in the video. Everyone who has done calorie counting right knows its pretty much an exact science.
@@nikolagrudev3128 How about this professor ? th-cam.com/video/a_r8mIAiL00/w-d-xo.html
What was your experience with BMR estimation?
I also did manage to bulk or cut around 20 pounds, from 20% to 8% body fat, but found it difficult to do this with a small caloric surplus/deficit. At first I was thinking that maybe I didn't get my BMR right, but the food processing or microbiome might be factors I didn't take into account.
@@huleadan How would you calculate it right ? It`s not just height, weight, age and gender after all. So all that is only approximate in best case.
Nobody is claiming that counting calories is an exact science but it's a good proxy and as such will obviously help people gain or lose weight in accordance with their goals.
This video is important though, not many people know that the science isn’t exact. There have also been a few people pointing out how the presentation of calories on labels made them develop an unhealthy relationship with food.
youre losing perspective of the average person's understanding of science and nutrition, which is whom the video is aiming at.
@@mjjjermaine that doesn't mean counting calories is a scam or worth any less. it means those people need to take extra care to avoid that kind of behaviour. perhaps a different approach would be more productive for them. that has no impact on the information that calorie counting provides.
@@Jay-kx4jf i disagree. in fact, i think it's the other way around. this video greatly overcomplicates it for the average person. this can lead to all sorts of misconceptions. people can talk specifics with their doctor or dietician, but blanket statements like "calorie counting is a scam" are just plain silly.
@@mass9047 it's a title meant to pull in people who do calorie counting because they heard of it being useful while not having in depth knowledge. People on the tertiary. People whove heard of it.
I suppose I should have been more clear. It's The average person within the context of broader dieting world. The people who hop on fad diets, and who likely perceive calorie counting as another fad diet even if unaware.
Regardless. It's definitely not meant for people who are in deeper end of the know. It's the curse of knowledge that prompted you to reply the way you did. I don't judge you for it. I ask you to be aware of perspective.
The point is the calories you eat will (approximately) determine your weight, but not your overall "health". At the end of the day, you will not lose weight if you're not in a caloric deficit
Did you even WATCH the video???
@@IAmKristinH yes and honestly it's kind of a poor video for those who want to lose weight as it just encourages not even thinking calories matter and blaming it all on "genetics"
Yon can absolutely lose weight eating nothing but McDonalds, though it would be extremely unhealthy to do so.
@@Grymyrk 100%
You didn't make an argument against calorie counting. You made an argument for selecting nutritious calories. Not the same thing. You still need to count those nutritious calories lol
People in Asia don't calories count. People in France don't calories count. It's about moderation and choosing fresh foods over processed. No need to be so retentive about everything. Do you count all of the sprinkles on the cupcakes and cake decorations you eat too? Are you missing the point of just eating healthy?
@@habib-vq9fl Eating in moderation = counting calories. Shoving everything down your throat = not counting calories. Not hard to understand what I'm saying there....
I needed this.
I'm currently attempting to recover from an ED, and it feels really hard not to fall back on bad habits like calorie counting.
Thank you for making this video.
It was very educational for me.
you’ve got this girl im so proud of how far you come!
Calorie counting is not a bad habit as long as you are smart about it
@@10NobodyElse yeah you don't say this to someone who's trying to recover from an ed who struggled with calorie counting. It's not healthy, it's unhealthy and becomes an obsession for us who struggle with it
@@becca7637 as I said, don't blame certain habits for your unhealthy, addictive, behavioural patterns
@@10NobodyElse But still, you should always be mindful. Have some a bit more emotional intelligence/empathy. Mental illnesses is hard enough. It's not just "habits" It's an actual mental illness and addiction falls into that too. Don't forget that.
I don't think anyone is really arguing that calorie counting is healthy in all cases.
The reason why the majority of people count calories is to lose weight, not necessarily to be healthy.
If you're trying to lose weight, all that matters is the calories going in and out. You can literally eat 1000 calories worth of kitkats and 1000 calories worth of nutritional foods for a month and lose approximately the same amount of weight.
If you're trying to be healthy, that's another story completely.
A Calorie is the amount of energy needed to increase the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1 °C, not 1 Kilogram.
I disagree. You don’t wanna count calories all your life but, it is a good tool to loose weight and understand what foods are high calorie dense
Whoosh
He probably doesn't disagree, I feel that the main point was not to be hyper focused on calories
That's not what hes getting out at all. It's a good starting point but just because you ate a 100 calories doesn't mean your body is going to take a 100 calories from it. Some might not get processed and just leave as waste. I don't think hes trying to say if you need a 100 calories somehow your body can get a 120 out of in. If hes also trying to say that I don't understand that part but I don't think he is.
I gained weight because hypothyroidism but it treated now. I absorbed way more calories because my metabolism was so slow but couldnt just not eat. It didn't matter how long I walked or ran for. Now. No weight gain. I also counted my calories and lost some of the weight gain some was as I was overeating on snacks during lockdowns and wine . I can lose weight once I do that. Very boring though. I got caught out. I've lost some of the weight gain by cutting that.
@@dorissaclaire you can't woosh on click bait tiles that have nothing to do with the video
I really appreciated the gut microbiome segment in yesterday’s episode of Sidenote. As someone in their *cough late cough* 30s trying to stay healthy and keep shitty genetics at bay, it was a good reminder (I also don’t subscribe to calorie counting, but it gets hard when it seems like that’s everyone’s solution).
I wish we knew more about our microbiome. I was diagnosed (or maybe misdiagnosed???) with SIBO over a year ago but a round of antibiotics didn't do anything for me. Of course I recently discovered I likely actually have pretty nasty endometriosis so I'm trying to get surgery scheduled but when talking about my personal overall shit health I'm SURE my microbiome has been affected by endometriosis and I wish I knew more about what to do with this information :(
Absolutely! Especially reading about so many success stories in the comments! ASAP didn't call counting calories a scam, and I really appreciate the message that we have more knowledge now about how to stay healthy. It is SO difficult reading people endlessly saying "more calories in than calories out = weight gain." I GET IT. But we are ALL different, and esp. when you have a mental illness, counting calories can seriously mess with your overall health.
At the end of the day, it still boils down to your calories in vs calories out, but it’s not as one-dimensional as what you eat. These other genetic factors can adjust calories in vs calories out.
I think calorie counting is popular because it's effective if done correctly. That said it's also a fast route to an eating disorder so I'd not actually recommend it.
Everyone used to drain their bloods in order to heal about 200 years ago. During that timeframe, everyone did it so most people felt pressure to conform. They were always apparently right. Doing what everyone else does is always the answer. Never mind Galileo.
Again and it'll always be the case, it comes down to the quality of the food you eat, the nutrients, the fibre etc. I was OBSESSED with calorie counting, lost 50 kilo, it worked but I never learnt properly how to eat and what to eat. I ended up being very deficient in iron and some vitamins. You can eat whatever you like to lose weight but the focus should be the quality and what you get from it.
Same! I lost alot of weight by eating the 2k mark no more. That is clearly not enough to keep a healthy body and diet when the quality of food was canned and junk.
Actually you can't eat whatever you like. Calorie in vs out is still a basic thing to consider
So the conclusion of the video shouldn't be that it's a scam, but should be like "Calorie counting definitely isn't a scam. However, you have to watch the macronutrients of things you eat as well to make sure you're not eating junk calories"
@@Snazzy12341 you essentially just reworded what I said 🤣 You can eat whatever you like to lose weight permitted it doesn't go over your total calories.. I wasn't discrediting calorie counting as a whole, it's obvious science to consider calories in v out, I was saying many people calorie count while eating junk or not enough nutrients and still lost weight like I did, the quality of those calories matter.
Yes calorie deficits work, but results vary from person to person (Sharon might lose 10 lbs in a month on the same exact calorie deficit as Melanie who loses 20lbs. They have different genetics, metabolic rates, risk factors, environmental conditions…etc). Essentially, a calorie deficit reflects your body in starvation mode. Your body can “survive” on 1500 calories a day but it is not thriving. It is conserving and burning fat when needed. Calorie deficits do not come without risks to your body. You lose both muscle and fat during a calorie deficit, and the fascia, connective tissues, and linings in organs also can begin to deteriorate in a 1000-1500 cal diet. Calorie deficits also have long-term affects on your body’s metabolic rate, making it much more difficult in the future to maintain the weight loss. Obesity is an extremely complex disease that is continuing to be researched in countries around the world, and generalized statements like this make it extremely difficult for people to get the help they need. Consider the science before you post next time!
I just eat and be happy. I dont worry about travail things. I eat when Im hungry, and sleep when Im sleepy. Learned that from a native American man
Been counting macros (calories) for 1907 days today, and I never got better results from my training than after I started. Counting cals isn’t either good or bad, just like drinking water; you can drink too little, the right amount or too much (or somewhere inbetween). Ofc there’s a difference between counting to be systematic and smart, and having orthorexia. Everything is relative, and everything depends. Nothing is ever just good or bad, one should never talk in ultimatums🙏🏼
We’re all gonna make it braahs💪🏼
could you please give a few details on how you count macros? I haven't figured out anything better than to calcute it for everything that I consume. And I need to tell you, that's not really user-friendly
It burns up all my spoons to try and keep my calorie counts exact but it's still good to have a general idea of what you're putting into your body. At the very least knowing what is calorically dense VS calorically "volume eating friendly" can already be a huge head start to maintaining health, and knowing is half the battle :) The biggest thing that people need to know is to NOT DRINK YOUR CALORIES, I find a lot of people I know can already see immense improvement just by switching to water, tea, and putting less cream in the coffee/tea. Eliminate as much processed foods & sugars as you can mentally handle (I will ALWAYS have a sweet tooth for freshly baked desserts...) and that's already a ton of progress.
If you are trying to gain weight you should eat calorie dense foods. Liquid calories are easy to consume, thats why I Drink 2l of Milk a day because i can't reach 3000cal by eating salads.
You can drink your calories within reason. A little hot chocolate or tea with honey never hurt anyone.
But I do agree that drinking your calories oftem can not only cause you to consume unneeded calories but not activate the "fullness cue" that we get from having solid food. So we are consuming more calories with less satiation.
Basically this. Calorie counting can be straight up impossible at times. Lets say you go and eat out, are you gonna count every plate that you order? Oh lets say say you research what food may have how much calorie, it's still gonna depend on the restaurant and how much you actually ate as well.
So I keep it easy and stick to regulating the macros
I really appreciate this. Calorie counting was really detrimental for me the one time I tried it while attempting to reduce my sugar intake. I was no longer taking in as many calories as I needed because thinking about food got really hard and I developed severe shakes that went away as soon as I started eating normally again.
I have executive dysfunction (from ADHD) and a changing metabolism (thyroid disorder and PCOS) so not only is it hard for me to mentally process eating but the amount I need to eat on a daily basis is changeable. I found that as long as I keep food on hand, check in on my body through out the day, and eat in accordance to how hungry I am, I will get a high enough quantity of food to maintain my weight with the amount of activity that I did.
I struggle most with knowing what to eat in response to given physical symptoms and getting enough nutrients and water. Having enough calories does nothing if your body isn’t actually functioning in other ways.
you’re so smart, i’ve been watching you guys for years and even have a book of yours. love you both, keep up the good work smarty pants’. :)
I am super happy you have updated with the research and the times. I think it's funny that youtube then offers the old 200 Calorie videos you made.
A calorie is a calorie. Bodybuilders have been using calorie counting for decades to manipulate their weight VERY accurately. Differences between energy required to absorb different macronutrients are miniscule. If they weren't, people would pay more attention to it.
They also eat differently. They're not just eating anything with calories.
Body builders, power lifters/strongmen, and even just us gym rats track macros along those calories because getting the right amount of protein and carbs in is very important
Calorie counting for sure is important for people who really want to gain muscles or wanna lose weight. but especially when it comes to bodybuilding it‘s just as important what you eat. You cant gain muscles with eating 3000 cals only from carbs or fat. You need a surplus of cals from PROTEIN to gain muscles. Otherwise you just get fat. Same with weightloss. Of course you can eat 1500 kcals a day, 1/3 of them being sweets ir fastfood. You will lose weight, but it‘s not possible to keep your metabolism working properly despite of the deficit and get all you nutritions when you dont eat clean and healthy. You will lose muscles, your body functions will be on a lower level and your body will be less likely to burn fat. Weightloss will become harder and harder.
But this statement completely disregards the endocrine system. This very video disagrees with you.
@@ryno4ever433 Yeah, there are a lot of "experts" in the comments that have no clue, it's difficult getting beyond all the misinformation that's been fed to us for decades.
Counting calories has actually helped me gain weight after being underweight/having a high metabolism my whole life. Making sure I'm getting enough or a surplus of calories has really helped put some lbs on. For the 1st time in my life i actually weigh more than 100lbs!
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Thank you so much for this!!! It was really useful
Here are my thoughts based on what I have learned and viewing your video. First, counting calories will assure you that you do not get into a ‘weigh loss plateau.’ For 2 months I was frustrated after not being able to lose fat 6 months into my journey. A dietitian evaluated my meal plan and said “you are not eating enough” which dumbfounded my logic. So I increased my calorie intake by 400 more calories and the fat loss steadily picked up again for another 8 months and I plateau-d again but I ended up at my target weight loss of 100 lbs. At this point I increased my caloric intake by another 400 - 700 calories to maintain my weight of 185 and have done so for the past 8 months. Second, in order to make calories count, you need to eat the right foods, especially since it does not take that many calories to maintain weight let alone lose weight. Third, the key to weight loss and health management is you managing your hormones to ideal targets - your body is very efficient and storing or burning fat - you just need to turn on the burning fat path through managing your hormones (melatonin, IhG, insulin, leptin, ghrelin, glucagon, cortisol, etc.). There is no “perfect” diet or calorie number to managing your calories, but counting calories for me has allowed me to learn more about foods available so that when I do eat I maximize my nutritional benefit per calorie and helps me in assuring my daily macros are balanced out.
Absolute B.S., as far as preventing a weight loss plateau. I measured every bite I ate and adjusted my macros weekly, sometimes every day because I was obsessed with it and my whole family hit a stall after 8 months on keto. I lost 80 lbs, and just like that it wouldn't budge. I still have over 100 lbs to go, and tried everything to get the weight moving again, if you've heard of it, I've tried it. After being keto two years and giving every method a few weeks to work, I finally tried increasing my calories. I didn't start losing weight again, but even while gradually increasing my calories over 3 months and eating 2600 a day for some time after... I didn't gain anything, either. CICO might help some people, but everyone that it works out for needs to stop assuming everyone else is just more lazy than them. It's particularly frustrating watching people eat "dirty keto", get to their goal weight and then chastise everyone else that couldn't get beyond a plateau... while I'm doing everything by the book with strict keto.
@@NickaLah ok why are you disputing OCs own experience? He said he eats a little bit more to lose weight, why would he lie? Your own experience is valid, why don't you understand other people also have their own valid experience?
counting calories is a very useful exercise anyways just to understand how much you're consuming and burning each day even if it isn't perfectly accurate.
Thanks for the info man!
The bit about how gut bacteria can affect calorie intake is a great argument against fatphobia and the assumption that being fat is synonymous with overeating and being unhealthy. Our bodies literally just process food differently. That's why there are many people who have poor diets and don't exercise much if at all, but are still skinny. And why there are many others who have good diets and are physically active, but are still overweight. So we really need to stop shaming people for how their bodies look, thanks.
Can confirm - counting calories, more specifically, tracking macros, is the best way to lose body fat while maintaining a healthy lifestyle. It's definitely NOT a scam. Calories in < calories out = weight loss
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Counting calories is by far the best and most simple way to lose weight. Simple does not mean easy, but this video is trying to conflate how you don't have to work or make choices or deal with the challenges that come from how difficult it can be to lose weight.
Counting calories helps you link how your body feels, with the food you are consuming. You start to understand that 500 calories of pasta won't actually make you feel fuller longer, and that you'd do better to spread out those 500 calories across fruits, vegetables, proteins, and carbs. Once you start counting calories you'll realize that 400 calories of cereal isn't worth it. You'll realize that a 360 calorie soda doesn't provide enough enjoyment for what it costs your health. You'll learn to stop drinking your calories with high calorie fruit juices. You'll realize that 50 calories of candy is a great afternoon treat, but you don't need 300 calories of it to appreciate the enjoyment it brings. Counting calories helps you with portion size.
Counting calories should be encouraged as a way to intelligently monitor the food you eat and help you change your relationship with food, and the choices you make, and to better understand how you want to feel on a daily basis. Counting calories is both a short term solution to feeling better each day by eating healthier, and a long term solution to achieve better health in a sustainable way.
Anyone telling you to stop counting calories is more interested in telling you how easy and comfortable it is to change nothing about your life and your choices and get the results you want. Again, eating healthy and counting calories is simple to do, but it does take work and it can be difficult at times.
Very well said, I like the 50 calories of candy part. Sometimes I have like 50 or 100 calories of chocolate or candy after supper and it's just the cherry on top of the cake. Don't need to binge to feel satisfied all the time
why are cereal bad tho
Calorie deficit diets don't work. Studies show 75-98% of people will gain all/most of the weight back within 5 years. Most won't even lose it in the first place. You need to heal your relationship with food.
@@amonavis They do work, they have to work based on the laws of thermodynamics.
Just because most people eventually put the weight back on doesn’t mean they don’t work, and you should stop trying to discourage others from bettering themselves.
Obesity Epidemic is the biggest threat to our health.
@@sterloin maybe we should focus on the eating disorder epidemic instead.
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Really nice explanation on the last part about why some people gain or don’t gain weight. Never knew that. Thanks!
I have to disagree, I lost weight in high school when I was counting calories. I didn’t realize the amount of calories I was eating before and gained so much weight to the point of being borderline obese for my height.
He never said you won’t lose weight counting calories, just that it might not be effective or healthy for everyone because peoples bodies break down calories differently
I was basing my comment off of the title of the video. Looks like the creator changed the title of this video. Originally the title said counting calories is fraud, somewhere along the lines of that.
@@nandavaccari You don't need to compare your calories with others
Thanks. Now I can use this information as my new excuse!
I feel like the moment you decide to start calories means that you’re already more aware of the food you take in and therefore people already experience weight loss. Not the diet per se, but just not eating anything anymore
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“Calories is the amount of energy in food”
Yo mama be a nuclear reactor
Basically you Agreed with counting calories. Counting calories shows you what foods are maybe best left to once in awhile treats and what should be kept as part of a healthy diet.
Cuz sometimes it's hard to know!
Thank you for this video!
Great as always.
Though this may be true I do feel more people benefit from knowing a ball park estimate of the calories they are consuming and to make better food decisions around that. Its literally been only 2 weeks for me and im seeing changes
My biochemistry professor mentioned that if you eat less you will lose a lot of weight at the beginning, but this is mostly due to water loss which isn’t healthy. Like the guy mentioned in the video-it’s not about number of calories but what types of foods you’re eating. I think if people make their own food instead of getting pre-packaged stuff, didn’t drink soft drinks, and exercised a bit it would have a bigger effect than counting calories.
@@alisakinzel4187 you literally could gain weight despite doing the things you mentioned at the end. Being in a calorie deficit means you burning more than you are eating. You could even eat junk everyday and still lose weight (not advisable). if you need to eat 2000 calories to maintain weight but the "clean food" you eat amounts to 2200 calories, guess what ? you will gain weight. Food has different effects yes but the truth stays the same, if you eat less than you burn you will lose weight, regardless of what you eating. As for soft drinks, yes sure but not sugar free ones, they literally have almost no calories so a safer option. As a matter of fact people who have strict clean diets have been shown to gain more weight in the long run due to bad dietary adherence.
@@bdlamini9002 the thing is the weight gain while doing those things will probably be due to an increase in muscle mass, which increases the amount of calories that your body burns moving forward
My immediate thought at the end
No! We can't change the calorie! It would make my thermal dynamics and chemistry homework so much harder!
(Also, note little c)
Another important topic to address when thinking about the impact of food in the body is the hormonal response to specific foods and how our hormones affect if we are gaining or losing weight. For example, you will have a high insulin response to candy, potato chips, etc but a significantly less insulin spike when eating an apple.
Precisely. Hence the creators of the video also factor in gut microbiome.
In fact, blood type B people have the largest and most diverse range of gut microflora, and thus can burn through eating sugar more efficiently than blood type O people, who also happen to have higher rates of diabetes AND lower microbiome diversity.
So what’s “the biggest lie about calorie counting”? Surely, calorie estimates on labels are just that: estimates. We all metabolize food differently. And yes, the thermic effect of breaking down protein is higher than that of carbs and fat.
However, I think it’s dishonest to not even mention in the video that weight loss and weight gain will always come down to calories in, calories out. It is a law of physics and there is no convincing me otherwise. You might not be eating the exact number of calories you think you are, but the bottom line is that weight change is a matter of energy balance.
This doesn’t imply that health is only about calories. But the hard truth is that if you want to lose weight, you must eat less calories than your body burns, consistently, over weeks. This is why i calorie count, it holds me accountable in showing me a rough estimate of how much I’m really eating every day.
nah man you're fatphobic if you remotely mention a literal thermodynamics fact
you need to understand thyroid has a huge effect on this. If your eating shitty food your metabolism will slow down because your thyroid wont work as well. Leading to lower body temperature, leading to fewer calories out through body heat. There are TONS of different mechanisms like that so the law of thermo dynamics still applies. Your just forgetting all the little different mechanisms that are attached to that.
Weight loss depends on insulin not necessarily calories
@@TomsMods im convinced that overweight/obese people are always lying about thyroid conditions, its rare. They just eat a lot, but even then you can still lose weight no matter what
@@quandaledingle7092 if you'd see what i eat daily you'd see that I eat a very small amount of food in a day compared to most people and yes I'm still overweight, obese even. and i have been doing that literally for years, not because I want to but because i have adhd and the medication i take for it really helps me with the adhd but kills my appetite and i hate that but what can i do?
do NOT assume people are fat simply because of what they eat. thats just extremely fatphobic and ignorant.
just like theres a lot of things that influence how calories are absorbed into the body, theres a lot of things that influence your bodies weight, why and even how and where in the body it stores fat. its quite a fascinating subject to study actually.
I’ve lost over 50 pounds simply by eating 1,200 calories a day with a daily walk. I know counting calories works. Or, at least it does for me.
As long as you’re burning more than you’re eating, counting calories will always work.
Well we know who’s putting that back on that’s way too little food
@@Kankerpatient123 r/1200isPlenty there is no single diet that's perfect for everyone. If someone's living a happy, healthy life, there's no reason for them to go back to an unhealthy diet of a couple thousand calories of empty carbs just because some people decades ago said that was "the best"
Exactly
Certain foods pass through the body leaving more fat
Certain foods pass through leaving more nutrients
Nonetheless, calories in - calories out is still a very good placement of fat gain
Anecdotes are worthless in science.
It does work (although it's more nuanced than most people think), but that's not proof.
great little video. thanks!!
It all makes sense now thank you for such wonderful content
Science people having a "stop calorie counting" as a thumbnail is clickbait and unacceptable. A calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight (and fat) and calorie counting although not perfect is probably the best tool to achieve that.
I mean I think the point of the video was that calorie counting is not the only way to lose weight as it's not as accurate as people believe and can very easily turn into disordered eating. There are plenty of ways to get healthy without counting calories. And if all you focus on is calories and manage to lose 100 pounds doesn't mean you're healthy now, your still just as if not more malnourished as before the weight loss.
I think the point made during this video is that any given number of calories, be it 1 or 100 or 1000 is not equal across different food sources in health benefits or weight loss/gain. For example, 100 calories worth of oreo is not equal to 100 calories worth of ten vegetable soup. Yes, count your calories if you wish to measure your foods, but the exact number alone is meaningless unless you account for the nutritional content of the food itself, your biome, and your level and frequency of physical activity.
Yeah but it almost gave me an eating disorder
At the end of the day a caloric déficit works! But obviously if you do a "clean" diet or a flexible with 80-20!
I love these videos; super energetic and fun, with topics I am captivated by!
Great video as always ❤️
To be fair, it generally actually is as simple as calories in vs calories out
What I got out of this video was "Here are some low-Calorie foods, here are some high-Calorie foods, here are some reasons why something might be high- or low-Calorie, but the science is old and poorly understood." Nothing about that suggests that Calorie counting is a scam or that you should stop doing it, unless you're the sort of person who sees an imperfect tool as useless. And why was he talking like he'd just had oral surgery the whole time?
Thank you for this information! Great to know!
really insightful !
I've been playing with the calorie density approach recently.
Does all this stuff come down to "the microbiome evolves over time to more efficiently break down what we generally eat"?
That and the microbiome of our parents influences the microbiome we're born with. It's all a lot more simple than this video makes it seem. Try writing down the food you eat, your weight, your poops and how you feel each day, and after a month or so, you'll have a pretty good idea of what your body does and doesn't struggle with absorbing.
If you notice that every day you eat a certain amount of dairy, your poop is a bit softer, you probably have an issue with lactose. If you notice you feel bloated after eating bread or pasta, you may have an issue with gluten. If over the month, you gain weight, then you're eating too much. If you lose weight, you're eating too little.
You'll also see over the course of the month which foods are your problem foods for caloric density vs nutrient density. For me, it was pasta. I noticed that I could eat a single slice of bread and stop there. But when I ate pasta, I ate a TON of pasta. Thus days I ate pasta I tended to be more bloated and went to the bathroom more. So now I try to limit my pasta intake. The internet says "cut carbs" but researching my own diet made me realize "I only really need to reduce my pasta, my other carb intakes are fine". So really, you can just research yourself and create the diet for you.
This video seems to bombard people with information that would confuse and make weight loss seem more elusive.
Yes these are facts but at the end of the day these alterations only make up a very small percentage of change.
For someone just learning about weight loss with calories in/calories out a video like this can just cloud there mind when infact the most simple knowledge eg. Calculating TDEE then creating a small sustained deficit has shown to be extremely effective for weight loss.
Ohh! Nice info!
Great video. Thanks!
One older study found that 6 weeks of regular exercise reduced feelings of fatigue for 36 people who had reported persistent fatigue 👍
Yeah no shit hahaha. What does this have to do with calorie counting and the first law of thermodynamics?
Eat when you're hungry. Eat a variety of foods. That's all you need to do. Counting calories can quickly lead to disordered eating, weight cycling, and metabolic damage.
Counting Calories quickly took away my eating disorders and including binging and orthorexia. I'm not saying counting calories is the only way to go but don't act like counting calories is wrong, it's not. It works and always has. maybe not for you, but it does.
@@calebjohnson7976 I said “can lead” not “will lead.”
Great video, got a lot of information I was unaware of!!! Thx
i love this editing style
Pretty cool that it’s not even been 20 minutes since this was posted, and people are already calling out the bullshit lmao
I think the point is that theres a lot more to it than the number of calories your putting in. So when someone is struggling with weight loss its not helpful to be told to eat less calories and exercise more it's often more complicated than that. They are also trying to emphasize that the quality of calorie source is important as well. Yes being mindful of calories is important but it's not the whole story. PSA diet culture has caused a lot of eating disorders in people and oversimplification like "just count your calories " is one of many contributing factors. The need for a solid well rounded education on nutrition is needed for people to choose healthy eating habits.
This 100%
Almost everyone who says calorie counting doesnt work for them is either counting wrong or is grossly overestimating their total daily energy expenditure.
@@nikolagrudev3128 theres also a factor that people don't consider and thats hunger hormones. I can tell you from experience that feeling hungry even though I met my max calories for the day is MISERABLE and its a setup for failure. The best way to deal with it is eating things that suppress apatite and things that make you feel fuller and satisfied longer, so usually eating a lot of fiber and eating healthy fats instead of carbs. So again, calorie counting is an over simplification of what is actually needed to sustain a successful and healthy relationship with food. Its not to say it's not useful but its really not touching on all the different factors of what is needed and how everyones individual body might react to the nutrients being put in.
@@Hi_Im_Akward but calorie countig for weight loss is simply the act of reducing calories to reduce body mass - its oversimplified because it is overly simple. What you are describing is a diet, which calorie counting is not. I drink instant coffee, eat pizzas and burgers and I lose weight, because I eat very little of those things, thats not a diet. What you mentioned is a diet and is not calorie counting, I hope i managed to explain myself properly.
@@nikolagrudev3128 I think the key distinction is what "work" means. Yes, you will lose weight with a caloric difference. However, if you are a binge eater, depressed, anxious, or any other mental condition that predisposes you to obsessing about food, calorie counting can make that relationship with food so much worse. That's what some of us mean by doesn't "work", the relapse is huge. Those people in my experience respond better to learning what foods to eat that help them stay mentally sane while losing weight. Many of the people who are in good faith defending calorie counting imho are the ones who have been successful and don't mind doing that for the rest of their lives. Even people who are successful with it fall off the wagon because calories is a distraction from other obesogenic factors. What matters more is learning macros, hunger cues, emotional stability, avoiding processed foods and improving their hormonal profile and metabolic health. That is more long lasting without having to be tied to a metaphorical mental calculator forever.
On a side note there are plenty of people who lost weight/mass but still have insulin resistance, fatty liver, inflammation from processed foods, increased cancer from constant eating even if under their TDEE. Skinny fat is a real medical condition. The quality of the calorie matters so much. Calorie counting to me is for someone who is a beginner and has never realized that a pizza slice is more calories than a chicken breast. It's just a starter kit, when that fails (90%) because of the emotional/mental or maybe even socioeconomic reasons that made them choose pizza even if they know it's more calories, they need therapy/support/coaching and not just counting.
Great video. Thank you
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Calorie counting is a useful tool for people with binge/overeating problems :/
I used to have a BMI of like 44, and got it down to 25.6 or something using calorie counting. Then 2020 happened and I'm back up to 40 or so, but I know how it works for me at least, so I can get it back down. It's very helpful to have that number as a tool! I'd be lost without it.
No, its not a scam. Calories are still the main factor in weight gain/loss. Yes, sure, there are other factors, like the ones you described and even others ( the body consuming different amounts of energy through the day). But calories in/out is still the main reason, its the first thing to look at. not a scam, at all.
Missed these kinds of vids
After you establish your caloric consumption baseline, calorie counting works as a straightforward heuristic. Heuristics are useful for simplifying approaches to a complex problem. If we try to tackle the whole complex issue before taking the first step, that can lead to decision paralysis. Doing nothing is worse than taking a first step in the general right direction.
You should take into account your macronutrient distribution. 15-25% fats, min # of protein grams depending on weight and goals, rest carbs. Then make sure to eat varied greens, or take micronutrient supplements as needed or recommended by dr.
Ugghh, its definitely not. I am in full control of my weight ever since I started counting in 2013. Never too fat and never to thin again, perfectly athletic and its hard go back once it becomes second nature. Bad video.
I'm hoping click bait like this doesn't screw over anyone's goals to better themselves. This video is dishonest and doesn't use many sources or consider many other factors. This video should be shamed. Stay healthy, stay curious and explore the nutrition science field. I hope we can all learn better due diligence.
I’ve been a large advocate of CICO for a long time and it’s the only time I actually lose weight. I get that essentially all things are infinitely nuanced but in general, could it be assumed that the current calorie understanding is good within 10%?
It's the only way people lose weight without surgery or some medical disorders.
Your body can't store energy on a deficit.... it's literally impossible.
What we have right now is 100% fine as long as you have a good round diet. Eating a deficit in butter alone won't be good for you, but you'll still lose weight.
This can be a bit misleading because counting calories is actually all that matters when losing weight but no when trying to stay healthy
This is finally coming to light
The more I’ve learned about my ancestors and what their diets were based on where they lived the better I’ve been feeling! Everyone is so different. Diets are definitely not a one size fits all!
12 years ago, I started doing research on nutrition. In that process, I came across vegans that would eat four to five thousand calories a day. Your video summarizes nicely what I learned about how our bodies process calories.
Oh gosh, brilliant video! Not like the ones I’ve seen before. Big ups to the presenter too! Entertaining and helpful at the same time
Brilliant informative video. Thanks
It is a little confusing but it does work if you do it right. I logged every single calorie and lost 111lb in a year. Best thing I ever did for myself 🥰 I didn’t stop eating the things I love either. I just ate less of it or ate healthier later to make up for it
this is dumb, count calories works but should be not your only reference ... otherwise you could just live eating 1.5k calories of oreos every day...
Great vid yall
I love you guys, you make science easy and entertaining
Good stuff. My mom was obese until she figured out she didn't gain when she predominantly ate a low carb high protein diet. I've found it is a great way for me to shed a few extra pounds whenever I need to. Indeed, everyone is different. You just gotta figure out what works best for you.