Is The Sim-Racing Setup EVER Complete?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2023
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Some of the clips used in my video do not belong to me. I have used clips from the channels of Ladaman 2101, Xpertgamingtech, SIMUCUBE, Simagic Official and TheCarDoc for reference purposes only. Proper credit has been given to all the respectable creators. Link to all of their videos ↙
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Wheel Base - Simagic Alpha U
Wheel Add-on - Simagic GT1-R Wheel
Shifter - VNM Shifter
Handbrake - VNM Handbrake V1.5 - Rally version
Pedals - Heusinkveld Sprint
Cockpit - Next Level Racing GT Track
Monitor - MSI Optix G32CQ4 QHD
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Setup - Lenovo Legion 5 pro
Processor - Ryzen 7 5800H
GPU - RTX 3070
RAM - 32GB DDR4 - เกม
Great to see an Indian sim racer on TH-cam. Liked and subbed bro. Please keep the content coming
Appreciate the kind words Mukul. Will continue to do so!
As we all know, faster (and especially faster than ..) is not the target and purpose, journey and experience are.
Thus, having a good controller, feedback and visuals (monitor or vr + accelerator) - are all parts of it.
A complete setup is possible. But journey of jumping from one setup to another, gradually upgrading is a mistake (there are many videos about it).
Path to endgame is simple -
1) start low, checking if simracing is for you. Is it fun or realistic enough. try find friends or rent or get cheapest used device with good review (or one that is easy to sell).
2) get cheapest or best/buck device (or combo) for game / genre you are interested in.
Few advices hints:
a) calculate wheelbase + rims you want, not separately
b) most pedals are overpriced, get cheapest load-cell pedals with good reviews
c) nobody drives with more than 10-12Nm, but true detail = feel = performance+enjoyment on track comes from slew-rate of a wheelbase. slew-rate (how fast=detailed) is higher on stronger wheels (18-30Nm), but technologies do change and newer wheels (Asetek, Fanatec) are focused on it, while old devices that state high Nm (doubtful numbers for each manufacturer as there is no standard of measurment) are slower in comparison.
In other words, a king among even pro-simracers SimCube Pro 2 got 8Nm/ms slew-rate that should be end-game for 99.99 (Asetek Invicta is 9.4 but it is just slightly better in feel). Asetek LaPrima 4, (new) Fanatec DD 5 are $800, while Fanatec DD+ and Asetek Forte 6.7 (both 25% higher in price) looks like best FF for best USD. For a casual racer on street / rally cars - detailed FF is not needed, as for those who like GT3 or formula cars.
PS in case of Asetek LaPrima one can even upgrade to Forte model later if needed.
PPS Simagic Alpha seem to be in good spot (15Nm), but a slew-rate comparison or head 2 head comparison to other brands are needed.
Agreed. The amount an individual has to spend on this hobby greatly depends on how deep the pocket is. Obviously there are players who dominate leaderboards with a G29 and players who play Forza on a high end DD.
Like you mentioned, sweet spot is between 10-12Nm. Obviously a lot of factors come into play when calculating the slew rate such as the armature, wattage of motor, pole count, etc. It gets a lot more technical than a normal person would like to indulge in. For a majority of people, a decent mid range setup is going to last forever. And having fun is the most important part!
Great video, I like your way of showing how car simulation can be interpreted in different ways.
I understand that improving equipment is more about immersion than results. It's the pleasure of feeling the car's sensations on the track that makes having a quality DD worth it. There are many drivers winning with G29 and T300. Not even a good pedal will help if it is not used well. I myself am not a great virtual pilot, my greatest pleasure is being able to feel the immersion to its fullest.
Precisely, Celio. I myself came from Thrustmaster TX and the difference was day and night. Just to find out that I did get faster, but the difference started to get thin each time I upgraded my components.
BTW the Star Wars references are awesome! Subscribed and notifications are on.
This shit is like like a car build. You just keep finding new things to buy /try 🤪
Some say it is worse than drugs
"My set-up is complete" John Q Simracer
This translates to my wallet is empty
Until my wallet comes back to life. 🥲
i upgraded to a direct drive base not to become faster but for immersion and end more realistic feeling of driving a sim,if im faster,for me its just bonus
Immersion is just of an equal factor as any.
i finally finished my sim setup. Waiting for my rig and summer vacation now!!! I got myself a Moza R9, Moza KS, Simjack Pro with3 hydraulic dampers, Sim-Lab GT Evo and Trak Racer GT Seat. Im so hyped it will all be done in about 2 weeks.
That's a great setup and it seems like you went all out! Congratulations man ;)
@@darthsnape Thanks! I can only agree that it was a huge jump. 1500euros is not a small amount to spend but i think it was for the good as i enjoyed it for the past year on my g29
@karei7375 It is still a huge sum! You are so in for a treat if you have not experienced a DD before. There’s no going back.
Aaah the days of the conical brake mod. It did the trick back then but once you go loadcell there's just no going back. The little 28cm rim is pretty good though, I bought it years ago and still use it on my t818 today. It's great for older F1 cars and such. The shifter pedals and buttons are a not really up to todays standards but they still work just fine.
I too liked the brake mod, but after testing it again (my latest video), I could not stand it. I could play on the TX just fine, but the T3PAs are just bad. You are right, no going back after Loadcells
FEATURED! hahaha my rig is at the start lol
Great setup max!
I would like to see the comparison on pedals please. I am just starting to go down this rabbit hole and understand diminishing returns. I also understand that that sometimes starting off "budget friendly" is not always so friendly to your budget after you buy and then rebuy and continue down the "upgrade" path. In the end I would have been better off to save up a little more and "buy it right" the first time. There in lies the question.... where is "right?" Which is why I am watching your content. LOL. Looking for all the information I can to make a wise purchase the first time. Not sure about about which brands and models to choose from at this point. Have a G-29 currently. Looking at usual suspects around the 10-12NM +/- range, Fantec, Moza, Asetek and as of tonight Simagic. Looking for a complete set up, pedals (prefer 3 at the moment) wheel base, wheel or two for different sims, gear shifter ( maybe a h-senqunetial switchable unit) and handbrake. Want to be able to do rally to road and track. Not sure to stay vertical in one ecosystem or mix and match components. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hey Joe, glad you liked the content. And to answer your question, It's really hard to pinpoint a place which can be stated as a region of buy once cry once. As sometimes people might buy something too overkill. But again, it all comes down to the budget. I'd advise you to look into either Asetek or Simagic for wheelbases. Not saying that Fanatec or Moza are bad wheelbases, but in the range of 10-12Nm, Simagic and Asetek are the ones with 18 and 16bit resolution respectively, compared to Moza R9 (15bit) and R12 (maybe 15, not confirmed).
If you want to learn more about the resolution, I would recommend you to watch my Moza R5 video. I have explained resolution pretty well over there.
And you don't have to buy an entire ecosystem. You can mix and match. For pedals, if you want to buy once and cry once, HE Sprint are the gold standard. The VRS pedals are amazing too and so are the Simagic P1000s (video coming soon).
Shifter and handbrake wise, I have VNM which works fine for the most part. But if you want a shifter with one click H-pattern and Sequential switch, as of now the Simagic and Fanatec are the only ones to offer them. In all others, you have to remove the H pattern plate, install the sequential plate and flick a switch in the back. And handbrake can be any one tbh. Loadcell handbrake isn't going to provide you with an extra edge.
@@darthsnape Thanks for the info! It seems no matter how I put it together I keep coming up with a total of about 1250-1500 for the Moza / Fanatic stuff and making the jump to to the Asetek / Simagic adds about another $1000. The Asetek La Prima seems to hit the "sweet spot" for higher quality gear and fall into the middle $1500 range without shifter and hand brake and add another $250-$500 to throw that in the mix. but not a huge section on steering wheels... so.... Really looking for definition and detail. I/we don't need/want anything that is trying to rip my arms out socket for the sake of "realism." LOL. Would be great to be able to feel road/surface texture and changes and traction loss, etc. from the wheel bases. As far as the pedals were concerned, was considering the Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals on the lower end and now looking at the Simagic P1000 with the haptic feedback on the more upper end. Do you know how these comparer to the Asetek La Prima/Forte or other pedal sets? The reality is I the Fanatec CSL DD (8nm) base and matching "elite" stuff would probably be glorious and may all that is needed. But would there be the desire too "upgrade after a little while...idk... Thanks again for your input.
@@darthsnape BTW, Looking forward to the P1000 review.
That’s exactly what rabbit hole is. Welcome to it btw. And while Asetek’s bundle is great, Simagic is worth looking too as it offers a better upgrade route. Hydraulic for brakes and bass shakers are optional kits. Also P1000s can be inverted. Good value pedals.
tip: don't excuses about your skills
Correct me if I'm wrong. You Totally used LTT's (Linus Tech Tips) line for the product promo and sponsor lmao.😅
You got me 😅
Hi where can i get that gt racing rig
I bought it from ITdepot.com