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  • @damny0utoobe
    @damny0utoobe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +793

    This. This is the useful part of TH-cam.

  • @villafontananorte
    @villafontananorte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    I am a good worker. I come to work every day, I go the extra mile, get involved in some project, I know many jobs in my workplace. My schedule is extremely flexible since I have no kids or wife. I asked for a $1 raise, and I was rejected since my job is not considered as an "important", but only 2 other people know how to do my job. You can't learn about my job in seven days. Tomorrow I have an interview with another company. Their lost. Not mine.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Good

    • @johnatspray
      @johnatspray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I hope it worked out! Sounds like it was their loss 👍

    • @TheAwesomes2104
      @TheAwesomes2104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I found out the man I was training, who had no previous experiance in the field and had to be taught everything from the ground up, was getting paid $1.25 more than me the senior installer and department lead. Went to the boss about it and got told that corporate would only allow a $1 raise for me and that they couldn't afford more than that. Long story short, stopped training anyone, I bought a house in another city, got a new job, sceduled my two-week vacation, gave my 2 week-notice on the last day before my vacation, and left them completely in the dirt with no one even remotely qualified to take over my position and no one with experience willing to move to the area. I told everyone in the store what I was making before I left and had all they employees discussing their pay and outraged. We found out that many of the female employees were making significantly less than our male trainees and so many people left shortly after I did. Everyone also knew exactly how much my trainee made and refused to consider taking my postition without making $1.00 more than him or become trainees for less than equal to his pay. It was a beautiful experience. They could have just paid me an extra dollar an hour and I probably would still be working there, running the stores most profitable department without them having to lift a finger, but here we are. I wish my male trainee all the best though, even he went to our manager and said he'd look for a new job if they didn't start paying me more than him. Bless his heart.

    • @picklerix6162
      @picklerix6162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume that you’re not a proofreader.

    • @thrivecalm
      @thrivecalm ปีที่แล้ว

      L

  • @melmagallon6233
    @melmagallon6233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    As someone who has negotiated his salary twice, this was VERY GOOD information. When negotiating salaries you ABSOLUTELY have to be comfortable making another person uncomfortable. It's a hardball game and you bet I'm willing to give someone a hard time and possibly ruin someone's day to get an extra $10-20k per year.

    • @melmagallon6233
      @melmagallon6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits I didn't leave a single thing out. You misunderstood the intent of my statement. Salary negotiations are for people that ALREADY have a solid foundation and have put in their time and paid their dues.
      I have no idea why you would assume that I meant this for people applying for entry-level positions.
      I'm as real as they come brutha! :-)

    • @paxaeterna3709
      @paxaeterna3709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@melmagallon6233 Brutal

    • @GodlyDra
      @GodlyDra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You also have to hope that the person isnt like me.
      If someone tries to play hardball and makes me uncomfortable my only reaction is “must not give them anything even if it means my companies downfall”
      Luckily im self aware and know that isnt good for a company but there are definitely people that spiteful in positions of power.

  • @psgmrguy18
    @psgmrguy18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Negotiate a salary when you are already currently employed. That way you can just walk out the door, no big deal. Definitely gives leverage.

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      exactly i just grabbed a job after being laid off due to covid. my last employer offered me $53k. my new employer asked me what i want. i told them i want what i was making at my last job. i told them $67k. they bought it. my next job i look for im asking $80k.

    • @luizcastro5246
      @luizcastro5246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah, a company will fire you for asking for a raise after being employed there for 1 month because they see you as too demanding, good advice for getting fired quickly though!

    • @piffe
      @piffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@luizcastro5246 where the fuck did you see “when employed for a month” in this comment?

    • @lashondamiller2982
      @lashondamiller2982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@luizcastro5246 They meant when you're interviewing at other companies. Why would anyone ask for a raise at the same company? Most of the time they won't give it anyways lmao

    • @ItsOKtobeNormal
      @ItsOKtobeNormal ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lashondamiller2982or you get a 3% raise which is basically a slap in the face

  • @senorpants5604
    @senorpants5604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Here’s my biggest salary negotiation question that I never saw coming.
    I interviewed with my current employer in an on campus interview while I was still attending school. But, they offered a different student the job starting at 40k. He declined. 6 months later, they reached out to my school again and asked if they had any recent grads to fill the vacancy. I applied. I figured 6 months has gone by and they are probably now desperate, so I asked corporate HR for 45k during my phone interview. Corporate HR told me “people in that department don’t usually make more than 40.”
    At my in person interview in the branch I would eventually work at, Local HR asked what my desired salary is. I stuck to my guns and asked for 45. She looked up from her paperwork and said “is that all? are you sure?” I was not prepared. I came in ready to fight for that extra 5k, not be given an opportunity to ask for more. I should have taken the hint and changed it to 55k. I was caught off guard so hard that I didn’t know what to do. Biggest regret.

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Wow the feels on that. She knows it's going to turn into an employment loop because she knew that position wasn't paying enough for the skills and experience it required. Meaning in another 6 months they will be trying to find someone else when you leave. xD

    • @RandJ1996
      @RandJ1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      One that names the number first, is in worse negotiation position. When they ask, ask what their range is or what they are offering.....or say some BS like to deflect it.

    • @zantiquechm3960
      @zantiquechm3960 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did something similar. I was asked what I wanted and I shorted myself. I said 12 and it was given to me without a fight. 2 and a half years later I'm only at 15.
      Everyone has a pay range all over the place even old guys with pay below me.

    • @ItsOKtobeNormal
      @ItsOKtobeNormal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why you should always say some crazy number you think you won't get, worst case you dont get it but at least you're never shorting yourself.

    • @wahtu9745
      @wahtu9745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should’ve asked for $1mil

  • @alecstahl2387
    @alecstahl2387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    My salary negotiation goes like this:
    1. I know how much I am worth in the industry I am in. I cannot believe people don't research that.
    2. I ask for the full list of responsibilities.
    3. Based on the responsibilities, I make my demand.
    4. If my demand is not met but I need the job, I take the offer. Then, the second I find another job I quit explaining on my last letter exactly why, making reference to the date of the discussion, etc...
    I have done this a couple of times and it is glorious.

    • @TheSensationalMr.Science
      @TheSensationalMr.Science 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      to the first point, I don't think most people know how to do that and they are usually fed the line of *pick a job* and *work* , *not* pick a job and *try to squeeze the employer out of his money* . humans tend to want to be helpful; the schools are also based on the *Prussian model* which encourages workers who *ironically don't think cause they don't have the time for it* ... I mean why else do they design schools as prisons with fencing, no access from outsiders, and regimented schedules mostly out of your control? for safety? yes that's a byproduct... but not the intended function... they *prepare* you for *work* ... not *wealth* .
      I mean most don't read Robert Kyosaki's work (which feels like an opposite to Dave Ramsey's advice of save, its 'spend others money') which talks about how the rich move, not just the poor... working off of what gave him wealth, not a suggestion of thought or dogma... though Dave got wealthy by making an asset and selling it... his advice.
      also, I am going to take that list as well and use the hiring sites salary as a reference until I completely know my worth isn't completely based on that... though if they are willing to pay more, well, I am going to have a better life.
      Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!

  • @attache675
    @attache675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    “I know I’m making you a profit, you should be thanking me” humbling words almost no employer never wants to hear lol

  • @elmalifico3708
    @elmalifico3708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Notes for myself
    1) ask for a set of responsibilities.
    2) make sure the company doesn’t overreach and ask you for total commitment beyond reasonable expectations.
    3) make sure they have follow up steps after the interview.
    4) research salary as salary negotiations start BEFORE the interview.
    5) don’t give the new company your current salary info

    • @cipryan96
      @cipryan96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      5. Give them your salary: current one +30%

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cipryan96 +20%* as many roles depending on sector include a 10% differential already

    • @PNarbz123
      @PNarbz123 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they ask for current salary, I always add roughly 20-30k or ~20% ontop.

  • @cinnamon5187
    @cinnamon5187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    4:58 'wer're gonna need yopu to be 200% dedicated to our company!'
    yeah right lol, but is the salary gonna be the 200%? hahahaha :D

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Ikr

    • @spacemeter3001
      @spacemeter3001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      "No because we love our job and work overtime because we value what we do"
      Yeah sure lol

    • @dubnationx86i
      @dubnationx86i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@spacemeter3001 If you value what you do you should ask more money for it but whatever haha

    • @spacemeter3001
      @spacemeter3001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dubnationx86i Exactly 😁

    • @Theaverageazn247
      @Theaverageazn247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spacemeter3001 u joke but gaming companies pull that shit all the time

  • @bra5081
    @bra5081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +550

    Interesting, when they ask for past salary i always lie and give myself a super salary.

    • @jamesndegwa6955
      @jamesndegwa6955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      LMFAO!!! damn i have never thought that way.

    • @vacekto
      @vacekto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      GENERAL KENOBI

    • @philzan3627
      @philzan3627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Fyi, HRs have a secret network and they do talk and they already know what your salary is. When you do that, they basically gauge how much you really want and if they can cover it. If it is too much, they simply won't give it to you and look at someone else who wants less.

    • @KiraIRL
      @KiraIRL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      It's actually against the law to ask for someone's past salary in my state(illinois). They may however ask what your desired salary is.

    • @wargames43
      @wargames43 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      In europe its forbidden for past jobs to give away the salery amount you made to the new company its private and should always stay between the company and you... Sure me and my friends always talk about how much one another makes to gauge if we dont get ripped off so there is that.

  • @spacemeter3001
    @spacemeter3001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1082

    Whenever the job ad says that they're searching for someone who gives not 100% but 150% and is a go getter and is willing to do overtime I also ask for a 150% salary.
    They are often speechless, because they seem to be unable to understand that my time is literally my life and I don't want to waste it in a company and buy the CEO a new car lmao

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Space Meter haha nice man

    • @theamazingfilms42
      @theamazingfilms42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Space Meter True! It’s all relative, how much you work should be compensated fairly!

    • @jamesndegwa6955
      @jamesndegwa6955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Damn Straight...Sometimes desperation leads us not to ask the serious questions on interviewers.

    • @jamesmiller2521
      @jamesmiller2521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah, they always act like it should be your dream and purpose in life to create decent software based on their dumb business ideas.

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Exactly.I've worked in many different industries, and that's ALL it comes down to; who gets paid for YOUR work.Usually it's the middle managers, that is, presuming the actual managers are already taking their 200 percent.
      LIE all you must.As long as you can do the work, they can rarely check it.

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +922

    Finally, someone that doesn't talk to their dogs like they are toddlers

    • @ne9835
      @ne9835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol

    • @MetalGear0987
      @MetalGear0987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      I talk to dogs like they are toddles and toddlers like they are dogs.

    • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
      @AlbertBuckinghamEllison 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Guilty as changed lol.... But it is a sausage dog so.....

    • @MetalGear0987
      @MetalGear0987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlbertBuckinghamEllison Nice

    • @SteveUrlz
      @SteveUrlz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Doggies actually like being talked to like they're toddlers, after all wHo'S a GOoD bOYY, wHOs is a gOOD boYY

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    If I see any rules/policies prohibiting “moonlighting” or any “side projects/hustles”, I leave. It’s ridiculous. If they try to control ANY aspects of my life outside of work, or demand I come in on my days/time off, forget it.

    • @BronzeAgeMan1350
      @BronzeAgeMan1350 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The owners and managers of any company themselves have multiple sources of income.
      Its stupid to not allow employees such.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they paid you well enough you wouldn't need to moonlight or side gigs.

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dhenderson1810 true, though my side gigs and moonlighting are in show business.

  • @Theaverageazn247
    @Theaverageazn247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    if they ask how much you made at your last company. You should ask, how much did they pay the last guy before they left

    • @rockblack
      @rockblack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Your last salary: 70k
      They say: 50k
      You say you want now 80k
      They say it s a good agreement for 60k
      = Wrong strategy
      Always put 20k on top

    • @brucewayne2955
      @brucewayne2955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      🤣🤣🤣 I hope someone does this & records it

  • @robsk804
    @robsk804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I think the best response is "I am compensated very well and am happy with current employer. Although if the right opportunity were to come along with competitive compensation, benefits, and the right environment I would consider leaving."

    • @trxxblx-wxs-hxrx
      @trxxblx-wxs-hxrx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah... I’m just gonna leave this comment here and screenshot this for future references :))

    • @kevinmarquez944
      @kevinmarquez944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Did this for my current interview in the finance industry for a sales job. Panel interview turned into just me with the the reps. They asked some questions and I took control of the conversation once they realized I didn’t need the job. Hope to hear back from them soon just because they all still liked me enough to give me a tour of the place. Should hear back from them the latest tomorrow

    • @FreelanceFadi
      @FreelanceFadi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinmarquez944 any updates?

    • @SolidSnake59
      @SolidSnake59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FreelanceFadi They haven't called since :D.

  • @theblackcatvieweraccount5402
    @theblackcatvieweraccount5402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    "Competitive pay" means minimum wage....

    • @beverlymontgomery9105
      @beverlymontgomery9105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      And "Unlimited Vacation" means very limited PTO or else you're fired without severance pay.

    • @user-sw1wq8lh2w
      @user-sw1wq8lh2w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Competitive pay for me has usually meant similar to higher end of market rate. Sometimes even Silicon valley rates.

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@beverlymontgomery9105 unlimited vacation is a joke except for in government jobs. but i do expect a min 1 month vacation per year cumulative that carries over to the following year.

    • @LordZelgadis1
      @LordZelgadis1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      competing with minimum wage lol

    • @lukesutton4135
      @lukesutton4135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Y'all catchin on to how terrorists run the game. Let me help finish your education, read the book Rich Dad Poor Dad, the war is economic and dont forget it.

  • @rabner93
    @rabner93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Always starting high is something that even experienced people don't know. It's literally your best tool that everyone has in Salary talks.

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Building skills and experience, switching jobs and starting high are all keys imo.

    • @alexgear959
      @alexgear959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Problem with that is fear they might reject you for it.

  • @dedodiy3887
    @dedodiy3887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    TH-cam put 4 ads in. finally Josh getting recognized. get that bread my dude

  • @HaggisMuncher-69-420
    @HaggisMuncher-69-420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Had my appraisal last week. When asked about salary I said
    "I don't want to get into discussions about pay.
    If you feel like I'm worth what you pay me currently then keep paying me that amount.
    If you feel like I'm worth more than what you pay currently, pay me more"
    I get to decide afterwards if I think that's enough.
    Incidentally, I handed in my resignation for a better paid and fully remote project management job.
    I'm done begging for payrises.

  • @Sirstep
    @Sirstep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    While I did skip the beginning section, I do appreciate and understand why you are branching out in this way. I did watch the salary negotiation section and felt it was helpful. It's especially so by including your actual experience. Thanks for yet another great video!

  • @sku6243
    @sku6243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I asked for a raise for 3 times and got an answer like: "We are a team, more profit we have, better are our salaries". Nothing more detailing on how it works, no numbers provided, nothing else was done (even arranging the next interview). What I learned is that if there is no commitment, it's a red flag. Thinking over a bit, I found that if there is a commitment that then failed, it's another red flag.

  • @amerinasr
    @amerinasr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Seriously, these negotiation videos and real life job related talk are awesome! Thanks

  • @divocean4085
    @divocean4085 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I recently asked for a video on this topic and here it is! Thanks, man.

  • @KMFDM_Kid2000
    @KMFDM_Kid2000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went through 2 interviews, got the job, was told it was going to be a more junior position, so 20K under what i was asking for, which would have matched my previous employer. I asked for 5K over, seeing that 20K was a sizeable chunk of my original expectation. They didn't even negotiate, they pulled the rug out from under me after extending the job offer. Mind you, this would've been 6 months contract to hire anyway, but at least fully remote.
    Fast forward about a month, i find a job 6 minutes away from my house, direct hire, full benefits, bonuses, 401K, tuition assistance, etc. 10K under my original asking salary, but the benefits far, FAR outweigh 10K, even just the insurance or bonuses alone.
    I felt despair after getting the rug pulled out from under me, but I landed a much better gig at the end of the day. Not remote, but a 6 minute commute, which is as good as it gets not being remote.

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wishing you the best in your new role! Never hurts to keep up the hunt just for the hell of it and work on new connections that might be able to refer you later on too :)

  • @martinenglish6641
    @martinenglish6641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had 1 employer tell me I had to close my LLC and Sole Proprietorship in order to get the job and my response was that I refurbished old vacuum tube transceivers and TVs and I need to keep the companies to be legal when I sell them, it was my hobby at the time. They would not budge and I walked out. They called me back 30 + days later and said something could be worked out. F**K that sh*t and I told them to F**K off!!! If you want to work me overtime you will pay me overtime and I will still do side work in many fields. Diversity. My having side jobs never interfered with required overtime. Having my own companies was weather me starving and being homeless in-between jobs.

  • @grzegorzgrzelczyk
    @grzegorzgrzelczyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    This should be talked about in school. Instead of underground lava being called magma.

    • @Andres9632
      @Andres9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'd also like to see them cover legal areas from misdemeanors and felonies to workers' rights.

    • @alech3284
      @alech3284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yes and no, if the schools only teaches the essentials “life lessons” people are gonna be absolute morons and ignorants. Even now people dont believe in virus or that earth is not flat. It should be a balance in beetwen.

    • @johnapple6646
      @johnapple6646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alech3284 that's only in America

    • @onimekyo7633
      @onimekyo7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnapple6646 no, it also happens outside US
      I'm from outside US

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.”

  • @mntalateyya
    @mntalateyya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sometimes, mentioning your salary can help. I was working at a university in tiny rich country for $60k (£45k) fresh out of college, but it's a dead-end job. You're supposed to do it for a year or 2, perhaps save some money for phd, then move on somewhere else. I interviewed for a UK-based company for a fresh-graduate position. HR told me their range is low £30's. Next round interview, I told them what I make at my current position and told them I need a competitive offer to consider the job. They offered me the exact amount I told them, plus bonus.
    In retrospect, seeing that they offered the exact amount might mean that they would have paid higher if I requested. But the moral of the story is, companies play the same game too. If you asked them about their budget, they might go lower than they are expecting to pay, which can lock you to negotiating at the lower-end.

    • @snarlymacsnarls488
      @snarlymacsnarls488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tiny rich country: Monaco or Switzerland?

    • @rcoverc
      @rcoverc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snarlymacsnarls488 why not Singapore?

    • @chimagamer4157
      @chimagamer4157 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rcoverc Gibraltar they use British money.

    • @PNarbz123
      @PNarbz123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Part of the reason why you have an amount in your mind and then you hold your ground. Asking for the salary range they might say for example 70-90k, when in reality its probably 100-120k. You can always just respond saying "I am looking more in the range of around 110k", if they say no then that is that but sometimes they may come back and miraculously have negotiated internally that the budget was increased a day later lmao.

  • @Merle1987
    @Merle1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your channel. Not entirely relevant to my industry, but the information gives good general ideas, plus you're so earnest. I wish everyone could be so straightforward.

  • @alexp247365
    @alexp247365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Larger companies have a salary range when hiring for a specific position, but that range is often set as a single number by HR. If you ask for more, you don't get past the HR gatekeepers. Sadly, it's the same way internally.

    • @TheCarnivoreSoprano
      @TheCarnivoreSoprano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This. There's no such thing as negotiating

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why you press for them to give the first number/official offer.
      After they want you is when it's the easiest to call back and ask for "wiggle room" or say "is it possible for you to get closer to this other offer I have, as I mentioned earlier I am currently interviewing with others?"
      You gotta play the game of life while be kind yet direct. If you have leverage and want to value your time as much as possible you will do yourself the favor and ask for more before signing at the very least.
      The worst outcome is they say no if they've already showed their hand officially with a offer letter then you can accept that prior value.

  • @ethandavidson3395
    @ethandavidson3395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    *pours monster energy drink into coffee on a Tuesday* *sigh* “it’s been a long week...”

  • @sumtingwong8768
    @sumtingwong8768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Read the book "Never Split The Difference, Negotiating Like Your Life Depends On It" By Chris Voss who is the FBI's Negotiator. Experts in business say this dude is the real deal. His book is also a best seller.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I did, I love that book

    • @Sergeant1127
      @Sergeant1127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Literally got an ad for his master class before this vid.

    • @alyxr6215
      @alyxr6215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sergeant1127 me too man lol

    • @Wahinies
      @Wahinies ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty for the reco

  • @wayneaustin5533
    @wayneaustin5533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would never allow a company to dictate my off-work hours

  • @brandonevans5123
    @brandonevans5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    @11:45 I am always prepared for that question! If an employer asks me what I'm currently making or what I made at my last company, I always markup my current salary by 15-20% or so and then negotiate an extra 10%+ on top of my "current salary" or something along those lines. Might not be the best approach but it worked for me at my last couple jobs!

    • @rustydusty275
      @rustydusty275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      literally how i went from 60k-90k

    • @NNOutBurger_Gaming
      @NNOutBurger_Gaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rustydusty275 nice

    • @popamihnea6695
      @popamihnea6695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But like how do you lie considering they ask for an official paper that presents your taxes and contributions for the last X months...they for sure can figure it out that u lie

    • @brandonevans5123
      @brandonevans5123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@popamihnea6695 I am in the US and I don't believe that is a common practice here -- at least not anymore. I have never been asked for tax information or anything like that for any job ever, and if asked I have the option to politely decline giving them that private information.

    • @shofarsogood7504
      @shofarsogood7504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@popamihnea6695 say no and if you don’t get the job be glad.

  • @Bierfuizl91
    @Bierfuizl91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Filming some bee-roll, heh

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Huehuebue

    • @DmSujaEntrepren
      @DmSujaEntrepren 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But those were wasps. this is funnier. Its W-rolls

  • @Rhodair
    @Rhodair 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    We need you to be 200% dedicated to our company so we can pay you half your value

    • @theblackcatvieweraccount5402
      @theblackcatvieweraccount5402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nope. That's how you get bad workers. You wanna pay me 10/hr? That'll get you record and report. You want me to carry? That'll be anything above $10.50hr. You want me to confront, detain or do anything more? That'll be at least $15/hr. You pay minimum wage, you should have minimum expectations... (I work in private security for context.)

    • @Irishcream216
      @Irishcream216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theblackcatvieweraccount5402 being paid to carry a gun and potentially detain a suspect should warrant the same hourly pay as local PD. 15 an hour is a fucking joke.

  • @BatJeff
    @BatJeff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "I don't want to sit in my office"
    *Tries to go outside*
    *Ends up back in office*

    • @yanasitta
      @yanasitta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He lost that negotiation.

  • @Zeakuro
    @Zeakuro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    At my current job (Jr Dev) when they asked me what I wanted for a salary I said $40k because I just really wanted the job and the experience. They gave me $45k to start and after 90 days gave me a raise to $50k. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but I'm fresh out of college with a 2 year degree and I live in an area where the average Dev salary is $80k.

    • @NavJaswal
      @NavJaswal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Better change job after 1/2-1 year, I guess?

    • @Layman927
      @Layman927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah get some experience for a year or two and build up your finances, then look for that next job that’s going to give you a big raise

    • @ne9835
      @ne9835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How did you get the job?

    • @Zeakuro
      @Zeakuro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@ne9835 I applied and went through two interviews with them. Watching dev blogs like this helped me with keywords and knowledge of workflow that I wouldn't have had from just school alone which helped me land the job.

    • @Minoru72991
      @Minoru72991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Zeakuro And people say that TH-cam is stupid. Good for you man, I don't know you but I'm legitimately proud of you dude.

  • @luisfreire7121
    @luisfreire7121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love this hybrid format, good job!

  • @CommandoMaster
    @CommandoMaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good advice. Always start higher and negotiate a bit down.

  • @YiGzit
    @YiGzit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just a tip: never talk about salary in the beginning because that's when you have the least value shown. Wait till the very end when they are excited about you and want to hire you. That's when you negotiate yout (higher) salary.

  • @Ohem1
    @Ohem1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like the idea of having a trial period with a lower salary to show the competence at work, they'll more than likely say "No" after the trial has ended and you demand for more pay - but if they were to claim sub-standard work then make sure to take pictures of a finished job. It might be a little harder to do with coding work, maybe MD5 checksum? Also, get everything in writing.

  • @Maulhawk
    @Maulhawk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:48 A recruiter called me and I asked what the range was, he responded by asking what do you currently make. I told him "Listen, I'm not willing to leave unless you can offer me "
    He says "Oh the company can't match that."
    "Well I'm not willing to make a change unless you can match that. Thanks for your time."

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had someone reach out to me and I just told them I need over double that to even begin a conversation.
      Some jobs really do pay absolute garbage and it seems the recruiters most interested in being direct and getting a conversation going are for those terrible establishments.
      Or, Amazon or others who just blast out recruiters to get everyone to apply to technical roles and go through their online tests.

  • @GUIORLOFF
    @GUIORLOFF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man! You are saving lives, GLOBALLY! Thanks for sharing your precious tips bro!

  • @gamingguru7350
    @gamingguru7350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Bro, uncovering the corporate mafia,
    Love you Joshua, keep it up and best of luck.

  • @RT-hz5uv
    @RT-hz5uv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your videos man. I have self evaluation issues in terms of my worth in the market based on education and experience. Listening to raw information is what I've been looking for and not being told I need to work super extra hard and never sleep or have a life in order to get decent pay.

  • @Total_DuDe
    @Total_DuDe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I was looking for my next job from Tim Hortons, I applied to my local Kroger and even gave them a call a couple of times. The call was usually me being put on hold for over an hour until eventually Kai (manager) told me to "just put in an application on the website and I'll look into it." (Very reassuring). I posted my application back in 2016.
    It was only YESTERDAY that I got an automated message saying they were looking for "better qualified persons" for a DELI CLERK.

    • @chimagamer4157
      @chimagamer4157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      now that is a timely response, be sure to add 8 years of inflation and late fees for them. lol

  • @user-uy6cp3vk8h
    @user-uy6cp3vk8h 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🔥🔥🔥 video, I’m in the process of finding a new job/company to work for, trying to max out that budget. Nice job getting both the livestream and video in!!

  • @ansh51
    @ansh51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here in India, the entire industry has a norm for asking your current salary which is frustrating because if you start with a low pay in your career the gap takes a snowball effect and you always end up in the lowest range.

  • @alexp247365
    @alexp247365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Job market today sounds rough! Thanks for your perspective.

  • @sirmiles1820
    @sirmiles1820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Hey dude. Include the dogs. They are cute. Thanks for the advice!

    • @ibunnysaur1
      @ibunnysaur1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes listen to this man

  • @nCodeable
    @nCodeable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much man for your videos. Just landed my first dev job coming from a tellecomunications background. Hustle hard!

  • @shivakarthik6056
    @shivakarthik6056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are of good info. The way u roam around n share your experiences. Even when I get your new video notification, I just watch your video while having tea.☕ It's not like a tutorial video to sit in front of a laptop and what video with multiple pauses. Please keep sharing and thanks.

  • @manum8170
    @manum8170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    That "lower salary at start with increase after 90 days" is actually great stuff.
    Edit: I get it people, no need to comment further

    • @iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth
      @iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Companies never do that.

    • @jenniferbond7073
      @jenniferbond7073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I would never go for that. Chances are they will come up with reason not to give the increase.

    • @rafael502
      @rafael502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like 9 times out of 10 they won't do it, or maybe give you a minimal increase. Unless you get it in writing, not worth the risk. Stand your ground.
      I had my literal manager essentially tell me "you signed the paperwork at the agreed wage. We have no right to increase it"

    • @manum8170
      @manum8170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rafael502 That is 2 years old comment. I get it, let it go

  • @blackoutgo2597
    @blackoutgo2597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i interviewed with a company(remote, got the job), they asked me if i was doing anything on the side, told them i teach english(live outside the us) twice a week, they actually liked that.

  • @KomKal555
    @KomKal555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like negotiation skills come not only with experience, but as long as you get more perception of yourself as a good professional. And the problem is it`s quet hard to estimate how good you are to be confident enough to ask for more money. I can do my job well, I can make new pet-projects using new tech, read complex books, etc., but I can never say whether I`m good or not for this particular number just because of lack of information and confidence as a result. So, our psychology plays a big role in this game. Great video, Josh! Cheers from Russia!

  • @NoMoreUsernames
    @NoMoreUsernames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This man has Dr. Disrespect playing in the background 😂

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Why would you not

    • @NoMoreUsernames
      @NoMoreUsernames 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joshua Fluke touché

    • @Star-vg7ix
      @Star-vg7ix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah lose the distracting video game

    • @elab4d140
      @elab4d140 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JoshuaFluke1 now you'll understand why

  • @InsideCorporatePlaybook
    @InsideCorporatePlaybook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation about complex things in a very simple language, Joshua!

  • @pk1135
    @pk1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am really glad I stumbled upon your channel at random. Keep making useful content. Cheers!!

  • @napalm_exe
    @napalm_exe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the shots in the beginning of the video and the portion of talking outside!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hey Josh, could you do a video on how to price "unicorn" skill combinations please?

  • @uniquefitness8363
    @uniquefitness8363 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally Love This Channel

  • @Rclsllh
    @Rclsllh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As of now, 1/22, many states require employers to include salary range in job ad. Search for jobs of the same company with a state that required salary like Colorado and New York if you are in a cheaper city the salary will go down 5-10k.

  • @Patel1747
    @Patel1747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's amazing watching your videos, the way you're doing is amazing going different places and filming make it more relaxed and I don't get bored watching it.

  • @GrowthMindsetProductions
    @GrowthMindsetProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I *really* enjoy the quality and variety of educational videos on this channel. All I can say is *keep* *it* *coming* ! :)

  • @josuedanielmartinez5424
    @josuedanielmartinez5424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed the format, I also think it was funnier for you as well.... Beautiful dogs, beautiful b-roll and beautiful knowledge. That's the content I didn't know I needed 🖤

  • @Hassanali-jr4yb
    @Hassanali-jr4yb ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice out of the cage scenes they were refreshing & always best videos & reality of the Companys and paymarket.

  • @jenniferbond7073
    @jenniferbond7073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s illegal to ask about past or current salaries. They get around this by asking what is your salary expectations.I counter with what is the budget for the position.

  • @MariaCurry
    @MariaCurry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i dont remember in which of your videos you mentioned it, but you said in a salary negotiation you should never say a number first.
    yesterday i got a call from someone who offered me a job. and my expectations were way below. and i asked him to tell me his budget and it was 30$ more than i expected. thanks for the awesome advice

  • @wayneaustin5533
    @wayneaustin5533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I leave a company I get a significant raise

  • @richyhum
    @richyhum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I lived in Massachusetts and every job I've ever interviewed at has asked me that question of what I was making at my current job. My answer was always "That's not the right question. I'm not leaving that company for the same pay. The question you want to ask me is 'What is it going to take to get you to move here from where you are?'. The answer to that question is $$$$." Usually I get balked at and only once have I been low balled counter after that and I ended that interview with "Well I'm not who you're looking for then. You need a junior person if that's what you have budgeted for this position good luck with your search."

  • @spuriustadius5034
    @spuriustadius5034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:44, you can help it along by saying that you are talking to other potential employers and that you need to hear back within 1 week if they want to move forward with you.

  • @crollwtide9452
    @crollwtide9452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:47 For this, it's good to be aware of the fact that your state may actually make asking about previous salary history illegal (at this time, I found a list of 22 states that do so either in entirety or local to certain municipalities).

  • @efemdesign
    @efemdesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great all around video. like the variety

  • @shandrafuerte
    @shandrafuerte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the MOST useful video I have watched on salary negotiation!
    Tired of hearing peppy vague advice -- be unique, be important, enhance your skills. :/ But I can just tell these HR TH-camrs don't like acknowledging that some companies are short on cash and lowball employees the best they can. :(

    • @stoinks224
      @stoinks224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No company is short in cash in tech business they have 95% + markup

  • @samuelrossi5192
    @samuelrossi5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of your advice is spot on good work

  • @markcollins457
    @markcollins457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This helps people understand how "HR" and management works. I think this subject is the key to landing a job worthy of me!

  • @shadamyandsonamylover
    @shadamyandsonamylover ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been watching so many of your videos. I should’ve been job hunting at the beginning of this year tbh. Now I’m scrambling because I’m worried that I’m so far behind due to inflation that I’m going to run behind on some bills.
    I absolutely love the company I work for and had a career path, but the industry took a dive and there have been massive layoffs. I’m so lucky to still have a job but I need to make enough to live on.
    Thank you for your negotiation tips! My target pay is currently $65k, but due to watching this video I realize i need to ask for more than that. That would be my new baseline and I need to be asking for like $75k to negotiate properly and have enough cushion for inflations to come.

  • @VISOX
    @VISOX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My biggest salary jump was when i moved from my country to New Zealand, suddenly i made more then the prime minister in my country (at last officially).
    After i came back home (after 2 years) i took only senior contracting jobs in the niche market (a programming language not many people can work with) and it was also much much better then before.
    basically big changes made big salary increases so like several times higher then what i started just few years before as a junior dev.
    it was never "just 15 %"

    • @YiGzit
      @YiGzit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which language?

    • @VISOX
      @VISOX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YiGzit Scala

    • @nasdin94
      @nasdin94 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VISOX Data Engineering & Parallel processing related? Time for me to pick up Scala too.

    • @VISOX
      @VISOX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nasdin94 kind of but also very classical problems like to create an REST API or wrap communication with your DB, i do also frontend with scala :) (but i would not suggest it as the first thing to do with scala) ... So i learned my first bits on scala with a coursera course that was made by the creator of scala. GL

  • @dylan_quest
    @dylan_quest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed the change of scenery, seemed like you had more fun with it

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    *"we need you to be 200% dedic-"*
    Are you going to pay me 200% then?

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find this shit hilarious and dumb. Probably for a meager 50 - 60K salary too with decent benefits. They won't want to pay you for all that overtime because then you wouldn't need it.......you would be good (lol). I say keep the salary and job requirements to the job, don't worry about my business outside of work unless you're buying me a house, car, and retirement. xD

  • @abhaivirsingh
    @abhaivirsingh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh god, this is truly an eye opening series

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I`m so glad you mentioned money and raise on this video. I do not believe asking for a raise without being ready to change the company is a sensible strategy.
    What makes sense for me, in the full-time job scenario, is working hard without burning out. Bringing value that is higher than the current salary, gaining new skills and providing these skills at a current job. You own that that, it makes your resume. Proven skills outweigh the job title and every sensible person knows that.
    Everything should be documented in writing so your boss has something tangible to show to people above.
    Unfortunately, a lot of people present the raise conversation as a negotiation. I personally do not like that model. If an individual is proving skills that are higher than what he/she was originally employed for, it is assumed it is possible to get a raise or change jobs.

  • @ABuriedSynth
    @ABuriedSynth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks. Never though about asking for their budget.
    That's actually a good one.

  • @pavlingadjalov
    @pavlingadjalov 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how you are teaching us about serious important stuff and in the background Fornite is playing. :) Good vibes here

  • @voip4life
    @voip4life 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 11:45 the words said here are more important than anything else. You don't stay at the company unless you don't want to get paid for what you're worth. 34 years old as a voice engineer, and by far my biggest raises were moving companies. I can remember fighting for these stupid 1-3% raises going through all these BS hoops, when I could have just switched jobs, got a big raise, and not have to go through any hoops.

  • @kittyolds2775
    @kittyolds2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never added a comment before but I've found Josh's videos so real and helpful I wanted to say thank to him, so thank you Josh all the way from Adelaide Australia
    .

  • @austinb7348
    @austinb7348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! Great video! Please get out more for your videos! I loved seeing you in a different scene. I also live in Utah/ work in slc. We have beautiful places here!

  • @nabutovsky
    @nabutovsky 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed both the traveling and the salary negotiation advice. Great job, Joshua!

  • @ElTexMexAlex
    @ElTexMexAlex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im glad we have someone like joshua to show people how to get a job

  • @alexlee6859
    @alexlee6859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Live salary negotiation plz? I've seen one of your live interviews and it was really helpful. I was thinking maybe a live negotiation would be really nice too!

  • @BrandonKrieger
    @BrandonKrieger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Joshua, I liked that you showed a little bit of your life. I also liked the advice you provided regarding negotiations. One recommendation is at the end of the video it sounded like you didn't like recording videos. I would say keep it positive at the end and keep up the great work!

  • @haseozenithmaru1186
    @haseozenithmaru1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this about interviews

  • @salvadorroibon
    @salvadorroibon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a nice one. Make more outside videos Josh! What an amaing place Utah, beatiful.

  • @AzulaAlwaysLies2461
    @AzulaAlwaysLies2461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Car scene was great bro. Cool to see your city and your pup.

  • @Mark-cj9ju
    @Mark-cj9ju 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    im glad i found your channel because the reactions i get to your videos is either hate or love.

  • @dcabajian10
    @dcabajian10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! One thing I'll say is that the "Thank you" email is for sure done by everyone so it doesn't have the same weight it had before, but it is still highly recommend that you send one. If you don't and everyone else that interviewed did, most likely this will act as a negative "point" for you. Like you said this whole process is a game, unfortunately you have to play by their rules and also be willing to go at least as far as everyone else to get the job.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt theyd even notice

    • @dcabajian10
      @dcabajian10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe for the majority you're right. I just remember giving my friend this advice, and she thanked me a few days later saying the interviewer mentioned it in her second interview and said not a lot of people had done that and it made her stand out. Again for sure it isn't going to land you the job, but the little things add up and it only takes a few minutes to create a template email and just adjust it later to match your interviewer.

  • @caseycurry7491
    @caseycurry7491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this format! Thanks for the great information! I always feel uncomfortable asking about salary, but I think this helped.

  • @Sdollas
    @Sdollas ปีที่แล้ว

    Good points in this video but for the tech companies - I would say glassdoor is usually inaccurate. Most of the times they can go higher than whats listed.

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh had addressed this before. It's usually people who have been there awhile that list their rate.
      Just because the base a company tells you is lower than what you have seen does not mean you can't try to get the same value or more than someone else who has been there for awhile already.

  • @Blxnksy
    @Blxnksy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of the video format. Make whatever style of video you like, and we'll probably watch it

  • @h1th3r3
    @h1th3r3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound advice. The best time to negotiate pay is before you start the job. But I would love to see you do something on negotiating a raise after you’ve already got the job or come performance review time.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm. I mean you dont have as much leeway then