Here's a list : Job description - Companies can list a job description with what you'll be doing everyday, and then completely change it when you get the job. - Job title - Companies can promise a title, and never give it to you. - Pay - Companies can promise a raise and never give it to you. - Promotion - Companies can promise a promotion and never give it to you - Unlimited PTO; we all know this a joke so they don't have to pay you the vacation you've accrued when you quit. - Companies can promise regular vacation but only a certain amount of people can use it at once. 'It needs to be approved'. - Companies can promise you a mentor and never give you one. - Companies can promise you a office budget and never give you it. - Companies that have pension can eliminate it at any time. - Flexible schedule - this is interpreted as a 'come in earlier, leave earlier' but what that really means is 'we don't put a schedule on our work, so we can ask that you work any time' - Perks - They offer perks video games, pool, etc - if you use them they're a dead giveaway that you aren't working as hard others. - Remote work - Companies can tell you that you'll work remote and never let you, and they can do the opposite of that too. They can let you remote, and remove it. - Team get together - They are not optional. Even if they say they are. - Lunch - Ours was taken away when someone quit without notice. A childish thing to do. - 1 Off Jobs - Companies can post jobs that look like regular, continuing jobs, when in reality they only have on task they want you to complete, and then they will let you go.
Oh I just saw this! Add 2 more here from me! 1: HEALTHCARE BENEFITS. They can say that "upon commencement of employment" is when you get them and not actually deliver it. True story -- I had to wait MONTHS in spite of this in the contract. 2: "TEMPORARY LOWER SALARY TO PROVE YOURSELF. THEN WE WILL DO A SALARY REVIEW IN 3 MONTHS AND GET YOU UP. -- Never did the review and laid me off a bit after I poked harder about it. Hired for far less than I wanted to be hired for and got utterly wrecked by this bull for almost a year until they laid me off.
"$50,000.00 per year. Payroll is processed semi-monthly on the 15th and 30th of each month. All salaries will be reviewed as a part of the employee evaluation prior to the end of the 90-day probation period." LIE.
"The Employee is eligible for full benefits as part of the Employer’s standard plan, including long term disability, health and dental, life insurance and accidental death and dismemberment, further details of which shall be provided upon request. Benefits coverage shall be effective immediately on the commencement of employment." LIE.
Two big take-aways from all of Josh's corporate exposed videos: 1: Work a job to save up a nest egg so that you do not have to work a corporate job anymore. Save enough money so that you can turn your side-gig into your main gig. 2: You will not get promoted from within. The biggest salary increases you will have as an employee will be by taking higher positions at different companies. Always keep your resume up to date and focus on improving your skills as well as working and developing passion projects. The ultimate goal is to win the rat race by not playing it. Your goal is to escape and build up enough money so that you can freelance and actually have time to develop your business. ( After you lay the foundation of your side hustle while working, you should save up enough money so that you can live for 6 months to a year of bringing it up to speed.) At least that's my goal, anyway.
I would consider this. However, coming to terms with my internal boredom, I would say that my goal would be _to amass money so much that I can actually work and give with minimum worries_
I just left a job after 3 days. Your words prior to those days were good, but now hearing your words after I pretty much experienced it myself hits on a whole different level. Thanks so much
I was asked how much debt I was in at an interview. I told him I am debt free because I want the freedom of leaving a company if I don’t like how I’m treated. I didn’t get a second interview.
That was a horribly indecent question to ask. I have never been asked such a question although I live in Poland (maybe a constant drainage of talent to the West made companies more humble here because job market used to be a complete shithole during all of 90s and early 00s).
I'd literally ugly-cackle if someone asked me this. I'm actually out of debt and I'd flat out ask the interviewer if they were looking for someone deeply in debt that they could control and before they could answer (I'd talk over them if needed) I'd tell them this interview is done. F that.
My favorite phrase on any application or in an interview is “other duties as assigned” being a blanket statement of “subject to change without warning and reasons of because we said so”.
The pay raise stuff is so spot on. I worked for Apple and we were lucky to get a 3% raise per year, their excuse being “it’s based on the cost of living in your area” and not how well you do your job.
I always love how companies perpetuate the myth that you're in control of your value when they ask, "So what kind of pay were you expecting for this position?" Look - both you and I know that you already have a budget of ~30% of whatever the company makes for labor. So why not just tell me straight up what you're willing to pay me instead of playing weird gross mind-games with someone that's trying to put food on the table and pay their rent?
Thats the world we can create. We need to get everyone we know on board, and everyone they know and so on. Cultures can change fast these days, especially with the internet.
Never give 100% give what your job description requires and seems like is the normal output among your peers. The company is fine paying everyone else for that output and hired you in the expectation to match that output. 1. You'll piss off your coworkers because management will immediately want the same output from them. 2. You're running yourself into the ground needlessly like when they will not think twice to fire you if suddenly their isnt work bandwidth to justify your employment. 3. Work to live. Fuck anyone who wants you to live to work. Life is too short. 4. This is an excellent thing to gauge when you meet other people during the hiring process does ed everyone in their office look stressed and going at 100%? Dont take that job.
That is incredibly insightful, most of the time people in IT only tell the stories of amazing success and super cool companies and "how I got where I am" & no one remembers that these stories are not the often expected outcome :/
After working two years corporate, it is nice to know that other people are seeing "behind the veil" of corporate bs too. I was starting to think its just me who´s gone crazy. Thank you for your videos.
Elliott Ives Im a sophomore and it sucks getting a “useful” degree wouldn’t let me be exempt from corporate bs. Ig the good news is I’m looking into spreading my own wings.
My first job in tech (I'm from Germany) was exactly one of these (intentionally?) wrong job descriptions! It was a SAP/ABAP/Web development role ... I finally ended up modifying Microsoft word documents ... for 50k/year.
I’m at a point in my life where your content just speaks to me. It’s like I’m at a company I want to be given more money and more responsibilities but I’m effectively just told where to go, what to do, and “what I’m worth.” Nothing sucks more than being on a customer’s site, knowing you have the potential to do more but are not “allowed” to. This comment may make more sense on another of your videos but this one stuck a chord. I’ve been bingeing your content and can relate to a lot, if not all of it. Thanks for this. Continue to make these.
Audio and Video are 10/10. Great quality. 100% agree with this topic. Most companies do not care about people. You are there to earn the owners more money than they pay you. They will throw unrealistic expectations at you and/or drop you when they don't need you. How do I escape working for a company? Josh, please make a video (or course) on how to start your own business, market yourself and get clients, while managing time and projects.
Even when the companies fail you and you complain about it you're still the bad guy, the "bad apple", the "not a team player", and so on. With my last job they had me doing the work of 4 people, always saying it was temporary and promising a raise... that never came so I quit without even giving notice. It got messy for them and only then they were ready to give me the raise but I couldn't care less anymore. It felt so good and I even got healthier from not dealing with all the stress and getting more sleep.
TRUE STORY I CAN ACTUALLY VERIFY. My last software employer told me during the interviews and even on my contract that I was going to get HEALTH CARE BENEFITS UPON COMMENCEMENT OF EMPLOYMENT (aka right at the start). It was a flat out lie. They also told me they would do a salary boost (I took a lower salary at the start to "prove myself") after a few months review. All in my contract. Guess what? After working for them for nearly a year I NEVER HAD A SALARY REVIEW ONCE EVER. And when I pushed for it I was laid off shortly after. HMMMM :)
@Iama Dinosaur At preesnt all I want is to land my next job. I got burned and learned from it and they are my 2nd job of which I am only a bit about 2 years industry experience ontop of my BSc in CS. Meaning they are core references and if I went after them there's a pretty high chance I'd mess up that reference. Else I would. I feel cheated out of thousands of dollars ranging from healthcare benefits to my lower than expected salary (especially dental, I had literally got a root canal a short while before interviewing there and was VERY inspired by this healthcare benefit promise!).
@@jonnamustonen6751 Yup. Feelsbad :( Honestly I'm at the point I just want to start my own business and say to hell with all this. I am a capable developer and busted my hindquarters off and between literally getting backstabbed like this, laid off and replaced and the rest of the nonsense I'd rather have something that is my own and stable than deal with this. Sorry. That's totally a rant. But ugh am I ever feeling it!!! :c
@@ColeEvyx , I understand completely. That is why I actually did it ! Not only did I get tired of the lies, but I was fed up with corporate politics. I was spending half my day kissing ass and figuring out who had the bosses' ear.
I got lied to with my current job. The hiring manager said we’d talk about a raise 6 month in; he transferred to another store 4 months in. They outlined what I was going to be doing, and I currently do 10% of what the job description is.
My personal experience from some years ago... Aiming for a higher position, and company was always like "maybe in the future, but for now we do not have budget for this". Two years later, some other person suddenly, without any premonition, got this position, but was not really motivated to do this...
Yup. Always look out for yourself. I use to look out for people until they all began to treat me like less of a human for trying to help. Most people are self-motivated. You have to be the same way in order to survive. Fuck em
Hey man, you're right on the money. Newbies as we once were shrivered at interviews hoping they hired us when their intention was always to use that HUMAN RESOURCE. Great video amd thanks for sharing.
Josh! Amazing stuff. I switched to that mindset now and I am currently looking for a remote job. I always say to myself: I need a good company/team as much as a company needs a good and reliable employee. If they don't really care and they do everything you say in this video, no point in wasting your time with people who don't respect you as a person and as a professional.
Hey there! I just recently came across your channel today and I really like your videos. From what I see, although your advice and insight is geared to jobs with a more IT focus, I really like what you have to say. Most, if not all, the things you have said can be applied to jobs of any type of background. Keep doing what you’re doing bro. You’re helping out a lot of people!
I've been told things at interviews that never panned out, like there being a year-end bonus. If it's not written down in your employment contract (assuming there is one at all), then it's not going to happen.
I had the responsibilities of a job drastically change on the sixth day. On the sixth day, I was called into my bosses office and told that I would now be a technical trainer. I was expected to travel 25-33 percent of the time. They hired me knowing that they were going to fire the current trainer (he was on a pip), and make me take his job. They didn't tell me because they knew I didn't want to travel. I also interviewed at a company that went to a seven day work week, every other week. They extended me an offer fully knowing that they were going to implement this change the next week. They told me nothing about it. Thank God I turned down the job.
I'm 100 with you on the mentor bs. My first dev job was at company that was mostly developers and somehow it never occurred to them that newbies might need mentoring. Management also expressed confusion about why we weren't reaching the the same quality as our competition.
Totally agree with that comment on the mentor bit. At my last job I got let go because I wasn't "up to speed". Whenever I needed help they were always too busy and the senior dev got so frustrated he was a terrible mentor and as I was just starting out as a junior dev i got stuck on a lot of things which originally they were ok with that when they took me on as I was very honest, at my interview so often i would get stuck and not progress and they blamed me for almost everything that went wrong my god what a horrible first job experience the place was.
The list is so exhausting that I don't look at them anymore. It's better to focus on a few tech and feel comfortable instead of trying to be what they want you to be and make yourself sick + hate your life. Lol.
This is why people used to join trade unions back in the days, they provided employees with important leverage during conflict with company. Really, I don't understand this reluctance in IT industry to form trade unions as they are popular in other industries, especially in France or Germany. The problem you raise has always been present in capitalist economy as wage-earners have always been exploited no matter how skilled or educated they were.
I think a grassroots wave of people standing up for themselves is a much better solution than unionization. Why deal with the bureaucracy if we can just corner them?
This is key, workers are by definition atomized and have no leverage despite being the people who quite literally create all the value through labour. The only way to bargain and protect your collective interest is to come together and form unions. One difficult worker can be fired and replaced like nothing. All of them is a crisis. Solidarity strikes, even worse. A good example is Sweden that has the only unionised Toys R Us workers in the world because all of their 170 employees went on strike. Toys R Us refused to sign the standard collective bargain because they had a worldwide no-negotiation policy with workers. This is a big mistake in a country that was in large parts built by union workers and social democrats. Their refusal sparked a solidarity strike where bank employees refused to handle their transactions, transport workers refused to deliver their goods and so on. Every sector is unionised which means there's no need for much labour laws, federal minimums etc. All of it is handled by yearly negotiations with industry representatives and union workers. Our entire model is built on this.
I dont see the point in making the whole process of getting a job so long and complicated in the US. I mean, I am from Germany and there are a lot of laws to protect employees here. So hiring someone can be a huge financial risk because it might very difficult for you to get rid of someone. But I always thought that you can just hire and fire someone in the US in one day. So if you hire the wrong guy it should be not so much of an investment to fire this guy and hire someone else. So whats the point in making this whole process so complicated? Also I'm working as a kind of technical consultant for Salesforce consulting and development in Germany. In the last years I head a lot of customers. None of them wanted me to complete a code test or bullshit like that. Is this some special thing only kind of "Best Practices" in the US? I've never heard from practices like this in Germany even if the financial risk to hire someone is much higher here... anyway! good videos! I especially enjoy your company chringe videos! Thanks for your efforts!
Good luck getting most of these questions answered. Exactly on point though. You should be interviewing the company as much as the company is interviewing you. Culture could suck so bad or OT etc... I even generally like my company but they are incrementally getting worse year over year in small bits. Just got told today that "we are a team" and not to clock out early at all if someone needs help. That's complete crap since we are on a system that judges our performance and the system discourages teamwork.
In my last job in Germany literally like 6 or 7 of those things that you described happened to me: bullsh*tting about remote time and "the only thing that matters is the result" and then getting angry for taking it more than once a week, "mentor" who was always busy and literally had not a single one review of my job, low starting salary which was supposed to get better in time and... never did, because after completing the product, all of the sudden, some "new expense" for the company came out. Like literally 2 days before I completed the project. Granted, I moved to a whole new city for that job. So ok, Josh, we know the problem now. But the worst thing is - how would you know whether it's a lie beforehand? If they tell you it's ok to work remotely or that you will have a mentor, how can you assess whether it's really gonna happen before accepting the job offer (and possibly moving to a new city)? In other words, we know the problem - what's the solution? (other than quitting the job market altogether)
Companies that treat their developers like interchangeable parts like this have no right to turn around and complain that they can't find enough applicants to fill their empty seats. Waste not, want not.
Your videos are nice , kind of eye opener. There is a large demand of programmers and companies being turning people down because they want you to be expert with less then a year of experience, you need to know everything and you grind so much to get to a certain point but when comes to the test its not enough ,time goes by ,new technologies come out and you are outdated again... I got demotivated trying to learn coding ,felt I lost 2 years of my life.
I hate not knowing a company's financials when working for them because you don't know how viable they are to continue and if you're going to be facing layoffs. Public companies can help with this since they need to post their earnings quarterly, and you can look those up online. (However, that requires being able to read the associated financial sheets and information on whether that company is a good company to work for). I haven't found a way to get financial information for smaller companies. I'll have to keep looking to get a general idea.
Mentor thing is my personal favorite. I've had so many jobs where I came in not knowing shit about anything - I'd made that fully clear before they hired me and they'd assure me that this wouldn't be a problem. Fast forward 2 weeks and everyone just gets mad for me not knowing what the fuck I'm supposed to do - turns out what I'm supposed to do is basically google every single thing I'm tasked to do and not dare bother anyone with my annoying nescience. The IT sector especially is so horribly mismanaged across the board that it's actually hilarious. Everyone is just doing whatever the fuck they want and if you have a problem with that you can fuck right off because there's 20 people waiting in line to do your job at every single given moment. It's hilarious what these companies can get away with simply because there's so many 'resources' out there, willing to work under the stupidest conditions... just because it's the only way to pay the bills. If you don't have what it takes to be self-employed, tough luck, gotta suck that corporate dick. Either that or become a janitor or a cashier, there's really nothing in between anymore these days.
Yes this is true but I think the real answer in IT, is no one wants to train someone because knowledge is Gold and you not knowing how to do this task or that, provide them job security. Your correct. The only time I ever got training or help is when I was buddy buddy with other coworkers and partying with them off the clock.
@@1yasin6 That's the case like everywhere. People want coders with 10 years of semi-professional experience though, they don't want a guy who they actually have to invest anything into.
@thomas samson That's an attitude you can only have if you already have a couple grands in the bank - most certainly not when you're applying for an entry level job or, hell, a training level job.
Unfortunately, it has been 2 years and now employers are still lying! Started a company who promised me 3 bonuses. 8 weeks into they still are not aware of these bonuses. What a scam.
I’m sick of being told how the ~~ real world ~~ works.. it just sounds like a sad excuse to keep you away from your personal aspirations and long term goals. Don’t tell me how to live my life, if there is a will, the is a way
This happened to me. I was hired to work on a modern control system but the company incurred losses and they decided to stick to 1960s tech. I quit after a year after my boss said that he wanted me to stay for 3 years instead of 2. Too much uncertainty.
One of the best way to even get into your dream career is to attend a job fair. You get to talk to the recruiters directly and make an impact. I have gotten more interviews from job fairs than just a online application to the company. Also, I would completely recommend to go through a job placement consulting company. They tend to give training and then get you into your job of choice.
In my past company I was the machine learning engineer but my official title was “analyst” and the backend and frontend developers also had the same title but we all did different things, such bullshit. But then, they both quit and they never got replaced and I just got assigned all their tasks and I had to learn them all from scratch on the go because I never did any of that before. My salary never went up, even tho I was working more and then I was just let go when they didn’t want to pay me anymore.
Just Random yeah, they wouldn’t even give me the title of machine learning engineer in the contract but that was the title in the job offer and my functions. In the last few months I had seen many offers, some good and others just as crappy as the dev jobs that Josh shows in his videos. It’s just a problem with companies in general, could happen to any kind of jobs. So, you just gotta look out for yourself and not the company.
Something else about unlimited PTO, the reason they do it is that the IRS requires them to have cash on hand to pay all promised PTO and to report it as an asset, which costs them a lot of tax breaks.
Or when they promise to create jobs in the community and get hella tax breaks and the minute the tax breaks expire they move the jobs back to HQ and Sucks to be you.
Great video, I have experienced some of the things you mentioned and I always found it drag to have to go through the interviewing process, feeling nervous while whoring myself out to any company when I know none of them give a damn about me and just want to grind as much as they can from their employees till they are drained.
Here's a list :
Job description - Companies can list a job description with what you'll be doing everyday, and then completely change it when you get the job.
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Job title - Companies can promise a title, and never give it to you.
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Pay - Companies can promise a raise and never give it to you.
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Promotion - Companies can promise a promotion and never give it to you
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Unlimited PTO; we all know this a joke so they don't have to pay you the vacation you've accrued when you quit.
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Companies can promise regular vacation but only a certain amount of people can use it at once. 'It needs to be approved'.
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Companies can promise you a mentor and never give you one.
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Companies can promise you a office budget and never give you it.
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Companies that have pension can eliminate it at any time.
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Flexible schedule - this is interpreted as a 'come in earlier, leave earlier' but what that really means is 'we don't put a schedule on our work, so we can ask that you work any time'
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Perks - They offer perks video games, pool, etc - if you use them they're a dead giveaway that you aren't working as hard others.
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Remote work - Companies can tell you that you'll work remote and never let you, and they can do the opposite of that too. They can let you remote, and remove it.
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Team get together - They are not optional. Even if they say they are.
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Lunch - Ours was taken away when someone quit without notice. A childish thing to do.
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1 Off Jobs - Companies can post jobs that look like regular, continuing jobs, when in reality they only have on task they want you to complete, and then they will let you go.
the list is so dead on, its scary
Oh I just saw this! Add 2 more here from me!
1: HEALTHCARE BENEFITS. They can say that "upon commencement of employment" is when you get them and not actually deliver it. True story -- I had to wait MONTHS in spite of this in the contract.
2: "TEMPORARY LOWER SALARY TO PROVE YOURSELF. THEN WE WILL DO A SALARY REVIEW IN 3 MONTHS AND GET YOU UP. -- Never did the review and laid me off a bit after I poked harder about it. Hired for far less than I wanted to be hired for and got utterly wrecked by this bull for almost a year until they laid me off.
And yes I have the contract stating all this!
"$50,000.00 per year. Payroll is processed semi-monthly on the 15th and 30th of
each month. All salaries will be reviewed as a part of the employee evaluation
prior to the end of the 90-day probation period." LIE.
"The Employee is eligible for full benefits as part of the Employer’s standard
plan, including long term disability, health and dental, life insurance and
accidental death and dismemberment, further details of which shall be provided
upon request. Benefits coverage shall be effective immediately on the
commencement of employment." LIE.
They lied about the job, I lied to get the job. There, we’re even.
Exactly
if a company wants me to be married to them, does that mean I get 50% of their shit when they divorce me in six months?
Just like real life, your life gets left in shambles lol
I read constitution in many countries now recognize company as 'person'. So yes?
(in similar fashion as great video about making maths subjective according to trend, 20+20=2020.)
Two big take-aways from all of Josh's corporate exposed videos:
1: Work a job to save up a nest egg so that you do not have to work a corporate job anymore. Save enough money so that you can turn your side-gig into your main gig.
2: You will not get promoted from within. The biggest salary increases you will have as an employee will be by taking higher positions at different companies. Always keep your resume up to date and focus on improving your skills as well as working and developing passion projects.
The ultimate goal is to win the rat race by not playing it. Your goal is to escape and build up enough money so that you can freelance and actually have time to develop your business. ( After you lay the foundation of your side hustle while working, you should save up enough money so that you can live for 6 months to a year of bringing it up to speed.)
At least that's my goal, anyway.
Sounds good.
I would consider this. However, coming to terms with my internal boredom, I would say that my goal would be _to amass money so much that I can actually work and give with minimum worries_
make sure to tinvest your money as well and not just keep cash which earns you nothing in interest.
Inflation.....
This is definitely not a comment to give you algorithmic engagement.
nor is this
such a conversation starter
Very natural conversation
Don´t get me wrong, but it truly looks like an algorithmic engagement comment, nearly identical if I am not mistaken.
ENGAGE!
I just left a job after 3 days. Your words prior to those days were good, but now hearing your words after I pretty much experienced it myself hits on a whole different level. Thanks so much
I was asked how much debt I was in at an interview. I told him I am debt free because I want the freedom of leaving a company if I don’t like how I’m treated. I didn’t get a second interview.
I also always mention being debt free. don't want to waste my time with a second interview if they're expecting another debt slave
In the us, they cant ask you that. unless you go for a clearance.
That was a horribly indecent question to ask. I have never been asked such a question although I live in Poland (maybe a constant drainage of talent to the West made companies more humble here because job market used to be a complete shithole during all of 90s and early 00s).
Damn, the US sounds like the wild west.
I'd literally ugly-cackle if someone asked me this. I'm actually out of debt and I'd flat out ask the interviewer if they were looking for someone deeply in debt that they could control and before they could answer (I'd talk over them if needed) I'd tell them this interview is done. F that.
My favorite phrase on any application or in an interview is “other duties as assigned” being a blanket statement of “subject to change without warning and reasons of because we said so”.
Yes massah, as you wish
Yes, right up there with "additional hours as required".
I’m a simple man. I see josh’s new video, I click play.
Oohhh you're with me then :D
Peter Mortensen there’s no meaning to this. Just a simple habitual action.
The pay raise stuff is so spot on.
I worked for Apple and we were lucky to get a 3% raise per year, their excuse being “it’s based on the cost of living in your area” and not how well you do your job.
3% isnt a raise, it's just breaking even with inflation
@@JoshuaFluke1 lol
@@JoshuaFluke1 If and only if inflation rates are low.
@@JoshuaFluke1not even
@@ItsOKtobeNormal yeah its more like 10+% these days
I always love how companies perpetuate the myth that you're in control of your value when they ask, "So what kind of pay were you expecting for this position?" Look - both you and I know that you already have a budget of ~30% of whatever the company makes for labor. So why not just tell me straight up what you're willing to pay me instead of playing weird gross mind-games with someone that's trying to put food on the table and pay their rent?
THIS! This pisses me off so much. If the minimum wage is well known in your country, and most IT jobs only pay a bit more, why pester employees
Oh yeah, but if you go in wanting to cut through the bullshit, they write you off as a "problem applicant" for "having an attitude".
the older you get the more this shit makes sense
Imagine a world where the companies are begging for employees to stay.
Thats the world we can create. We need to get everyone we know on board, and everyone they know and so on. Cultures can change fast these days, especially with the internet.
So basically you described my company! Keep dropping these truth bombs..
Sucks to be a pirate nowadays :/
@@theMINIMUM12 nice one!
"Give 100% of yourself and you'd get paid more."
Well I gave 100% of myself and it feels like I've been doing job interviews from Stack Overflow lol.
Never give 100% give what your job description requires and seems like is the normal output among your peers.
The company is fine paying everyone else for that output and hired you in the expectation to match that output.
1. You'll piss off your coworkers because management will immediately want the same output from them.
2. You're running yourself into the ground needlessly like when they will not think twice to fire you if suddenly their isnt work bandwidth to justify your employment.
3. Work to live. Fuck anyone who wants you to live to work. Life is too short.
4. This is an excellent thing to gauge when you meet other people during the hiring process does ed everyone in their office look stressed and going at 100%? Dont take that job.
In the army I got the title of soldier and ended up being a janitor
anony mous police call mothertruckers.
You could of just looked for a school district job.
The bootcamp I just finished brought in former graduates to speak about bad job experiences they had so we would be prepared for the worst.
That is incredibly insightful, most of the time people in IT only tell the stories of amazing success and super cool companies and "how I got where I am" & no one remembers that these stories are not the often expected outcome :/
@@aboxinspace survivorship bias
After working two years corporate, it is nice to know that other people are seeing "behind the veil" of corporate bs too. I was starting to think its just me who´s gone crazy.
Thank you for your videos.
As a senior in college with a CS major, your videos are super useful and I feel like they will give me a leg up later on.
Elliott Ives Im a sophomore and it sucks getting a “useful” degree wouldn’t let me be exempt from corporate bs. Ig the good news is I’m looking into spreading my own wings.
My first job in tech (I'm from Germany) was exactly one of these (intentionally?) wrong job descriptions! It was a SAP/ABAP/Web development role ... I finally ended up modifying Microsoft word documents ... for 50k/year.
🤣 man...if it at least would have been Wordpress or something.
@@lextor4712 :D True ...
I’m at a point in my life where your content just speaks to me. It’s like I’m at a company I want to be given more money and more responsibilities but I’m effectively just told where to go, what to do, and “what I’m worth.” Nothing sucks more than being on a customer’s site, knowing you have the potential to do more but are not “allowed” to. This comment may make more sense on another of your videos but this one stuck a chord. I’ve been bingeing your content and can relate to a lot, if not all of it. Thanks for this. Continue to make these.
Audio and Video are 10/10. Great quality. 100% agree with this topic. Most companies do not care about people. You are there to earn the owners more money than they pay you. They will throw unrealistic expectations at you and/or drop you when they don't need you. How do I escape working for a company? Josh, please make a video (or course) on how to start your own business, market yourself and get clients, while managing time and projects.
Your videos are literally saving lives. Thank you.
Even when the companies fail you and you complain about it you're still the bad guy, the "bad apple", the "not a team player", and so on. With my last job they had me doing the work of 4 people, always saying it was temporary and promising a raise... that never came so I quit without even giving notice. It got messy for them and only then they were ready to give me the raise but I couldn't care less anymore. It felt so good and I even got healthier from not dealing with all the stress and getting more sleep.
TRUE STORY I CAN ACTUALLY VERIFY. My last software employer told me during the interviews and even on my contract that I was going to get HEALTH CARE BENEFITS UPON COMMENCEMENT OF EMPLOYMENT (aka right at the start). It was a flat out lie. They also told me they would do a salary boost (I took a lower salary at the start to "prove myself") after a few months review. All in my contract. Guess what? After working for them for nearly a year I NEVER HAD A SALARY REVIEW ONCE EVER. And when I pushed for it I was laid off shortly after. HMMMM :)
Cole Evyx because they replaced you with someone else unfortunate :/
@Iama Dinosaur At preesnt all I want is to land my next job. I got burned and learned from it and they are my 2nd job of which I am only a bit about 2 years industry experience ontop of my BSc in CS. Meaning they are core references and if I went after them there's a pretty high chance I'd mess up that reference. Else I would. I feel cheated out of thousands of dollars ranging from healthcare benefits to my lower than expected salary (especially dental, I had literally got a root canal a short while before interviewing there and was VERY inspired by this healthcare benefit promise!).
@@jonnamustonen6751 Yup. Feelsbad :( Honestly I'm at the point I just want to start my own business and say to hell with all this. I am a capable developer and busted my hindquarters off and between literally getting backstabbed like this, laid off and replaced and the rest of the nonsense I'd rather have something that is my own and stable than deal with this. Sorry. That's totally a rant. But ugh am I ever feeling it!!! :c
@@ColeEvyx , I understand completely. That is why I actually did it ! Not only did I get tired of the lies, but I was fed up with corporate politics. I was spending half my day kissing ass and figuring out who had the bosses' ear.
I got lied to with my current job. The hiring manager said we’d talk about a raise 6 month in; he transferred to another store 4 months in. They outlined what I was going to be doing, and I currently do 10% of what the job description is.
My personal experience from some years ago... Aiming for a higher position, and company was always like "maybe in the future, but for now we do not have budget for this".
Two years later, some other person suddenly, without any premonition, got this position, but was not really motivated to do this...
Wow your dog is really full of insightful comments, some of the things it said really changed my view on life.
Nothing is sure and secure. You must always be prepared for the worst case scenario.
Nice thumbnail!
Yup. Always look out for yourself. I use to look out for people until they all began to treat me like less of a human for trying to help. Most people are self-motivated. You have to be the same way in order to survive. Fuck em
I like the production on this video. needs more dog.
And Cowbell.
"Job Title reflecting pay" - 'IT Assistant' builds apps and wordpress sites..
You're stepping up your production game killing it!
Hey man, you're right on the money. Newbies as we once were shrivered at interviews hoping they hired us when their intention was always to use that HUMAN RESOURCE. Great video amd thanks for sharing.
Great video
Josh! Amazing stuff. I switched to that mindset now and I am currently looking for a remote job. I always say to myself: I need a good company/team as much as a company needs a good and reliable employee. If they don't really care and they do everything you say in this video, no point in wasting your time with people who don't respect you as a person and as a professional.
Hey there! I just recently came across your channel today and I really like your videos. From what I see, although your advice and insight is geared to jobs with a more IT focus, I really like what you have to say. Most, if not all, the things you have said can be applied to jobs of any type of background. Keep doing what you’re doing bro. You’re helping out a lot of people!
I'm in a bait and switch job right now. It's ruining my experience and skills right now.
Dog is fluffy, dog is lazy, dog is I.
I've been told things at interviews that never panned out, like there being a year-end bonus. If it's not written down in your employment contract (assuming there is one at all), then it's not going to happen.
I had the responsibilities of a job drastically change on the sixth day. On the sixth day, I was called into my bosses office and told that I would now be a technical trainer. I was expected to travel 25-33 percent of the time. They hired me knowing that they were going to fire the current trainer (he was on a pip), and make me take his job. They didn't tell me because they knew I didn't want to travel.
I also interviewed at a company that went to a seven day work week, every other week. They extended me an offer fully knowing that they were going to implement this change the next week. They told me nothing about it. Thank God I turned down the job.
I'm 100 with you on the mentor bs.
My first dev job was at company that was mostly developers and somehow it never occurred to them that newbies might need mentoring.
Management also expressed confusion about why we weren't reaching the the same quality as our competition.
Yo from your neighbor in Boise, thanks Joshua, Keep up the good work.. I enjoy your honest (and realistic) videos....
You should do short movies acting these situations with that awesome camera. I'd watch that. The quality is great.
Totally agree with that comment on the mentor bit. At my last job I got let go because I wasn't "up to speed". Whenever I needed help they were always too busy and the senior dev got so frustrated he was a terrible mentor and as I was just starting out as a junior dev i got stuck on a lot of things which originally they were ok with that when they took me on as I was very honest, at my interview so often i would get stuck and not progress and they blamed me for almost everything that went wrong my god what a horrible first job experience the place was.
i'm tired of all the lying
Something needs to be taken place
How come this guys has taught me more than my parents? 🤔
If it's not in a contract, they can lie about it.
The list is so exhausting that I don't look at them anymore. It's better to focus on a few tech and feel comfortable instead of trying to be what they want you to be and make yourself sick + hate your life. Lol.
Also some companies want to control your life outside of work too.
I appreciate you analyzing the information-as-power imbalance in the hiring process.
Employees are assets, not resources.
What bout "Overtime isn't mandatory " then "WHY AREN'T YOU DOING MORE OVERTIME?"
We’re trying to expand the company, and we only need a few more minerals... I mean employees!
😂
This is why people used to join trade unions back in the days, they provided employees with important leverage during conflict with company. Really, I don't understand this reluctance in IT industry to form trade unions as they are popular in other industries, especially in France or Germany. The problem you raise has always been present in capitalist economy as wage-earners have always been exploited no matter how skilled or educated they were.
I think a grassroots wave of people standing up for themselves is a much better solution than unionization. Why deal with the bureaucracy if we can just corner them?
@@cedurick You're describing a union.
This is key, workers are by definition atomized and have no leverage despite being the people who quite literally create all the value through labour. The only way to bargain and protect your collective interest is to come together and form unions. One difficult worker can be fired and replaced like nothing. All of them is a crisis. Solidarity strikes, even worse.
A good example is Sweden that has the only unionised Toys R Us workers in the world because all of their 170 employees went on strike. Toys R Us refused to sign the standard collective bargain because they had a worldwide no-negotiation policy with workers. This is a big mistake in a country that was in large parts built by union workers and social democrats. Their refusal sparked a solidarity strike where bank employees refused to handle their transactions, transport workers refused to deliver their goods and so on. Every sector is unionised which means there's no need for much labour laws, federal minimums etc. All of it is handled by yearly negotiations with industry representatives and union workers. Our entire model is built on this.
problem is its too easy for companies to send the work overseas to places like India
I dont see the point in making the whole process of getting a job so long and complicated in the US. I mean, I am from Germany and there are a lot of laws to protect employees here. So hiring someone can be a huge financial risk because it might very difficult for you to get rid of someone. But I always thought that you can just hire and fire someone in the US in one day. So if you hire the wrong guy it should be not so much of an investment to fire this guy and hire someone else. So whats the point in making this whole process so complicated?
Also I'm working as a kind of technical consultant for Salesforce consulting and development in Germany. In the last years I head a lot of customers. None of them wanted me to complete a code test or bullshit like that. Is this some special thing only kind of "Best Practices" in the US? I've never heard from practices like this in Germany even if the financial risk to hire someone is much higher here...
anyway! good videos! I especially enjoy your company chringe videos! Thanks for your efforts!
Good luck getting most of these questions answered. Exactly on point though. You should be interviewing the company as much as the company is interviewing you. Culture could suck so bad or OT etc... I even generally like my company but they are incrementally getting worse year over year in small bits. Just got told today that "we are a team" and not to clock out early at all if someone needs help. That's complete crap since we are on a system that judges our performance and the system discourages teamwork.
Love the video! Really enjoying your content!
In my last job in Germany literally like 6 or 7 of those things that you described happened to me:
bullsh*tting about remote time and "the only thing that matters is the result" and then getting angry for taking it more than once a week, "mentor" who was always busy and literally had not a single one review of my job, low starting salary which was supposed to get better in time and... never did, because after completing the product, all of the sudden, some "new expense" for the company came out. Like literally 2 days before I completed the project. Granted, I moved to a whole new city for that job. So ok, Josh, we know the problem now. But the worst thing is - how would you know whether it's a lie beforehand? If they tell you it's ok to work remotely or that you will have a mentor, how can you assess whether it's really gonna happen before accepting the job offer (and possibly moving to a new city)? In other words, we know the problem - what's the solution? (other than quitting the job market altogether)
So many excellent points in this video.
Companies that treat their developers like interchangeable parts like this have no right to turn around and complain that they can't find enough applicants to fill their empty seats. Waste not, want not.
They have absolutely no right... but they will. They will cause the problem and complain that it is the fault of the worker.
Commenting to help overthrow the tyrannical algorithm
Let's do it! TH-cam even unsubcribed me.
Audio 100% great video! Keep up the work!
Thanks for shedding light on these companies. I literally just got ghosted by one I just did a small project for.
Wow!! Such crystal clear audio!!! (Spoken in a Lispy voice)
Your videos are nice , kind of eye opener. There is a large demand of programmers and companies being turning people down because they want you to be expert with less then a year of experience, you need to know everything and you grind so much to get to a certain point but when comes to the test its not enough ,time goes by ,new technologies come out and you are outdated again... I got demotivated trying to learn coding ,felt I lost 2 years of my life.
I hate not knowing a company's financials when working for them because you don't know how viable they are to continue and if you're going to be facing layoffs. Public companies can help with this since they need to post their earnings quarterly, and you can look those up online. (However, that requires being able to read the associated financial sheets and information on whether that company is a good company to work for). I haven't found a way to get financial information for smaller companies. I'll have to keep looking to get a general idea.
Mentor thing is my personal favorite. I've had so many jobs where I came in not knowing shit about anything - I'd made that fully clear before they hired me and they'd assure me that this wouldn't be a problem. Fast forward 2 weeks and everyone just gets mad for me not knowing what the fuck I'm supposed to do - turns out what I'm supposed to do is basically google every single thing I'm tasked to do and not dare bother anyone with my annoying nescience.
The IT sector especially is so horribly mismanaged across the board that it's actually hilarious. Everyone is just doing whatever the fuck they want and if you have a problem with that you can fuck right off because there's 20 people waiting in line to do your job at every single given moment. It's hilarious what these companies can get away with simply because there's so many 'resources' out there, willing to work under the stupidest conditions... just because it's the only way to pay the bills. If you don't have what it takes to be self-employed, tough luck, gotta suck that corporate dick. Either that or become a janitor or a cashier, there's really nothing in between anymore these days.
Yes this is true but I think the real answer in IT, is no one wants to train someone because knowledge is Gold and you not knowing how to do this task or that, provide them job security. Your correct. The only time I ever got training or help is when I was buddy buddy with other coworkers and partying with them off the clock.
In Germany all I hear is that they need alot of IT people and that there aren't enough
@@1yasin6 That's the case like everywhere. People want coders with 10 years of semi-professional experience though, they don't want a guy who they actually have to invest anything into.
@thomas samson That's an attitude you can only have if you already have a couple grands in the bank - most certainly not when you're applying for an entry level job or, hell, a training level job.
That's why you need to build your own company to accomodate this resources.
Great video. Reminder try keeping a record of your agreement between you and the company one way to do is have it writen down in the contract.
Unfortunately, it has been 2 years and now employers are still lying! Started a company who promised me 3 bonuses. 8 weeks into they still are not aware of these bonuses. What a scam.
Keep making video bro. We really appreciate you!
Employers lie all the time. It's sad.
Josh, you give me so much confidence. I appreciate you man!
Very important to get stuff down in writing imo.
Job post- Jr front end developer: 4 years django, 4 years SQL, Docker, PHP ect CEO- "fullstack dev for the price of a jr GOT EM "
I’m sick of being told how the ~~ real world ~~ works.. it just sounds like a sad excuse to keep you away from your personal aspirations and long term goals. Don’t tell me how to live my life, if there is a will, the is a way
I hope ur channel grows bigger and bigger. Keep it up!
Another great video brotha.
Keep pushing this amazing content!!
This happened to me. I was hired to work on a modern control system but the company incurred losses and they decided to stick to 1960s tech. I quit after a year after my boss said that he wanted me to stay for 3 years instead of 2. Too much uncertainty.
One of the best way to even get into your dream career is to attend a job fair. You get to talk to the recruiters directly and make an impact. I have gotten more interviews from job fairs than just a online application to the company. Also, I would completely recommend to go through a job placement consulting company. They tend to give training and then get you into your job of choice.
I really like these type of videos. Keep them coming.
In my past company I was the machine learning engineer but my official title was “analyst” and the backend and frontend developers also had the same title but we all did different things, such bullshit.
But then, they both quit and they never got replaced and I just got assigned all their tasks and I had to learn them all from scratch on the go because I never did any of that before. My salary never went up, even tho I was working more and then I was just let go when they didn’t want to pay me anymore.
So what you are saying is that even as a machine engineer, your life can still suck. That’s like the hottest job out there.
Just Random yeah, they wouldn’t even give me the title of machine learning engineer in the contract but that was the title in the job offer and my functions.
In the last few months I had seen many offers, some good and others just as crappy as the dev jobs that Josh shows in his videos. It’s just a problem with companies in general, could happen to any kind of jobs. So, you just gotta look out for yourself and not the company.
Now you understand why they both quit.
You keep it real, man. Keep doing the damn thing
Something else about unlimited PTO, the reason they do it is that the IRS requires them to have cash on hand to pay all promised PTO and to report it as an asset, which costs them a lot of tax breaks.
So many people need to see this!
Or when they promise to create jobs in the community and get hella tax breaks and the minute the tax breaks expire they move the jobs back to HQ and Sucks to be you.
I don't follow. If he HQ in the woods? WHT do you mean 'in the community'? Sorry, English isn't my first language...
@@krimsonsun10 oh, ok. Thanks for explaining. It makes. Sense now ^^
Algorithmic arrangement squad. Keep doing the good work. 🍻
This is why you should always be thinking of the next job your leaving your current one for. Make the companies work for you.
unlimited vacation = zero vacation
Great video, I have experienced some of the things you mentioned and I always found it drag to have to go through the interviewing process, feeling nervous while whoring myself out to any company when I know none of them give a damn about me and just want to grind as much as they can from their employees till they are drained.
Great content!
Great video and awesome advice. Keeping it real! :D
good content as always, thanks.
Good stuff man
Companies are just a group of average people. People will lie and manipulate you to make money off you.
I'm lucky to work at a company where I get the feeling that my boss really cares about me. Everyone is nice and the pay is very good
this was very informative and so true no one talks about this side.
Good advice Josh. I hope you make it to 200k. My goal is 10k.
"Wise words" - best one! :D
Love these 10 min vids, thank you and please bring more 😁